Yahoo Music ends, paying customers screwed up
You have one more reason to be a warez user now: In a move reminiscent of MSN Music, Yahoo is warning folks who purchased tunes through Yahoo Music to burn them to CD by Sept. 30…or lose’em forever. In a move eerily reminiscent of MSN Music’s recent decision to shut down its DRM authorization servers—only much faster—the Yahoo Music Store has alerted customers they will no longer be able to download songs or albums as of September 30, 2008. But it doesn’t stop there: once Yahoo shutters the music store, it will no longer be authorizing DRM keys for music customers legitimately purchased through the store. That means after September 30, paying customers won’t be able to move that music to new systems or devices in the future. Once an authorized PC or device dies, the music will die with it.
In a move which we’re sure makes the music industry feel warm fuzzies, Yahoo is actually recommending its customers burn DRM-protected tracks to CD, then re-import them into their computers in an unprotected, DRM-free format. “For any user who purchased tracks through Yahoo Music Unlimited, we highly recommend that you back up the purchased tracks to an audio CD before the closing of the Store on September 30, 2008,” the company wrote in an email message to customers. “Backing up your music to an audio CD will allow you to copy the music back to your computer again if the license keys for your original music files cannot be retrieved.” The shutdown serves as another example of how digital rights management technology often interferes with customers’ ability to use media they legitimately purchased…and why illegally acquiring free, hassle-free music from file-sharing services appeals to many. Yahoo is shutting down Yahoo Music Unlimited in favor of a partnership with Real Networks’ Rhapsody.
Comments(51)
Well what a waste of time…. $$$$ ??? all lost
lol sucks for them
DRM ftw..
Yet another reason to download all of your music from Rapidshare.
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@6
well now they know u live in philly good job
the kind of people who pay for music through yahoo or anywhere else on the web, you wont find many here. Seriously how is this important to us ‘criminals’? It all comes down to money and where they will profit the most. I’m glad to say places like that will never see any of my hard earned cash. Pay for music…That’s just funny. Until they come knocking that is.
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…with exception to the artist i really like and will purchase their albums at the store in support. Not many at that though. I think you should be able to hear it first before you buy. Or at least that’s my story and i’m sticking to it.
I’m sure one day music should be free to everyone. Artists can earn money their music through radio royal, tour, etc…actors and actresses can earn through commercials, or through other ways…
Security has been warned about an overzealous Philly Pirate.
This could actually turn out to be the greatest news ever.
Imagine: a class action lawsuit and its fallout…
It could abolish DRM forever!
from what i’ve read most of musicians profits come from live performances instead of cd or music sales(i am not saying that they don’t make a profit from the music sales)cd and music sales(i.e yahoo music) most of the money goes to the record companies….which are tooling back their cd manufacturing which inturn increases their profits by doing it electronically….so basically what i am trying to say is that anytime you actually purchase music you are generally supporting the record company and not the artist
what a waste of time that was then…… f-it if i bought the music id download versions that wernt guna be deleted
uhmm why would we care, we come to sites like rlslog because we wanna get out stuff for free so, not for nothing but this was a waste of reading, thanks for the post though
It should not be wrong to download music you have already purchased, in any case.
The RIAA hopes that paying and loyal customers purchasing music the RIGHT way, promoting the artists and supporting the music scene by legitimately purchasing their music will continue their business as they would unfortunately have to pay a slight fee to recoup their music collection once Yahoo Music shuts down.
The RIAA apologizes for any inconvenience on the end user’s part.
But aren’t you making the quality of the downloaded mp3s worse sounding when you burn them to a cd and them re-import them?
I thought that if you burn an mp3 to CD (Hence converting to WAV) that you worsen the quality.
I could be wrong.
I guess users who downloaded from yahoo could burn an “mp3″ cd and then re-import those to their music players. BUT will that defeat the DRM?
I don’t think so.
They let you test drive cars before purchasing them, so it only makes sense. :]
@18 – Wave is a lossless format, so the quality isn’t lost there. It’s lost on the coversion from wav back to mp3, since mp3 is a lossy format.
Either way, they’re getting screwed.
As an IATSE Steward I can tell you after 20 years in the business that most (but not all) artists “file share” too.
The support staff, road crew, road managers, promoters, stage hands, box office staff, actors, musicians, projectionists, security etc. share files on a regular basis. That is the reality of things.
I use the term file sharing because in Canada it’s legal. The RCMP (federal level police) has stated it won’t enforce ‘piracy’ and WE STILL PAY EXTRA *TAX* on recordable media, hard drives, MP3 players etc. The rules got changed somewhere along the way with this DRM crap and civil culpability re: copyright violations and it isn’t fair for most if Bill C-61 in Canada is passed. Those pushing Bill C-61 can suck some part of my anatomy – I’ve paid my media taxes for years and now these companies/associations are trying to screw us. We played by their rules and we’re still getting screwed. Plus Bell Canada now gets to limit our internet bandwidth without repercutions whether your ISP is Bell Sympatico or not?! It’s all Bell phone lines…
For Yahoo to cut and run on their customers like that is disgusting and their customers should be reimbursed every single penny. It’s exactly for this reason people file share. They’ve previously been screwed and they continue to get screwed and we, the consumers in Canada, have had enough.
DRM is pretty worthless anyhow for anyone who does even the slightest amount of research. Just get any free audio editor and record from your “What You Hear” or “Stereo Mix” bus and hit play. Really no need to waste CDs at all to reimport, though it might be faster unless you can set up a batch script or something. Only downside to this method is that you’d have to manually reenter the metadata info, but that’s a pretty moot point I think.
It is somewhat trickier to do this with a Mac or Linux OS though.
THEY RECOMMEND TRANSCODING??? RE-ENCODING DEGRADES QUALITY .. WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY/TIME FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS….
DRM ftl
#18 – any copy of the original DRM mp3s will still have the DRM.
That’s why they are saying their customers need to either
A) waste a lot of CDs & time burning them to audio and then transcoding them back to mp3, thereby 2x compressed..
B) play all mp3s in a row and record with wave sound hdd recorder software ie sound forge / wavelab – as stated above – which still takes forever to play in real time ( have to also make sure no glitches in play back etc ) and would then need to be split into seperate mp3s.
I would not waste my time doing this – I’m sure all the paying customers might just maybe use a p2p app to find them again?
Pathetic on the part of the industry – for money I expect FULL QUALITY audio downloads. I will not pay for anything other than WAV or lossless format.
RSLog is a bit behind on this story. Yes, Yahoo is shutting down its DRM servers. Yes, it has suggested that people who have bought tunes from them ought to burn them to CD and re-rip them. But they are also going to offer full refunds to them all as well.
So these customers will be getting to keep their tunes (albeit only through the burning and ripping hassle) and they’re getting their money back. Oh, how terrible.
How about FairUse4WM to remove drm? Haven’t tried that app myself but it should work.
Used another app a couple of years ago, and that one worked fine.
Todays usenext and pass
Be fast or last, some fool will change the pass
http://rapidshare.com/files/132714894/usenext.rar
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“Davis said customers could be reimbursed in several ways, including getting back the money they paid for the music or receiving MP3 versions without DRM technology, which means they can be imported into any music playing software.”
Doesn’t sound that bad to me. And this was posted 3 days ago
http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal_tech/music/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=209601121
Open it up in an audio editor…and save as!
2Click process..
Search download.com for an audio editor,
personal preference Adobe Audition/Cool Edit pro.
RlsLog itself has posted several apps which remove the drm…
Tunebite works great. Been using it for 2 years with the Yahoo Music Unlimited subscription. Works the same with Rhapsody.
That’s what you get paying to download stuffs.
You can try to justify or rationalize all you want, but at the end of the day, downloading music without paying for it is stealing. Whether you feel like stealing from record companies is OK or the bigger injustice is the rip offs we all faced in the years before downloadable music where an album purchased on the strength of a single turned out to be a waste, you’re still enjoying the work of someone else for free when they did not intend for it to be free. Well, everyone except for Radiohead, NIN, and those other bands who released the “honor system” payment plan albums
This DRM thingy screws up everything. Such bad, untested project.
Don’t put the mp3’s in your toaster it will lower the quality.
No DRM on my sort of music, you couldn’t find it to buy if you wanted to.
Blogs FTW
I didn’t even know this exist
Does anyone use that?
I download CDs then sell them myself at $5 for profit, just to make absolutely sure the record companies lose as much money as possible. I could care less about the music or money, just as long as the artist and company lose money is all I care about!
I use FairUse4Wm and it works great! You have to be using WMP 10 or lower, though. With the update to WMP 11, they changed the way they log the DRM keys and have eliminated the ability of FairUse4WM to strip the DRM. Just thought you all might like to know.
@ 32 Ras
Fùcking tool, posting trojan links? Get a life ffs
And why does piracy exist? Oh ya, to keep legitimate people from getting screwed.
I cannot tell you how many times I have been burned by products, hardware and software, and me, the customer is stuck with the bill.
Piracy may not be the answer, but it is a way for me, the customer, to recoup some of my losses.
Its a lose, lose situation for everyone.
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@13 It used to be that the companies/artists made their $$$ from cd sales. Concerts were used to promote the cd, therefore they were cheap. Nowadays, studio music is available “free” for the most part, and concert prices are soaring. Eventually, they will give you the music, and then rape you for a ticket. So is piracy necessarily a good thing?
Also, love that Yahoo’s fix is to re-encode mp3’s…absolutely the worst idea ever. To think that some might take this rout makes me angry…
Hey at least they’re offering refunds.
I’d go for the refund, then download all the music from rapidshare.
I can’t believe they suggested transcoding though… what a horrible idea. That would take ages ANY use loads of CDs.
35. there are many free sites without honour or any form of payment.
http://www.blackhoe-recordings.com/
http://www.zardonicrecs.ve.tc/
http://www.darklandrecordings.com/
http://www.kilotone.com/
http://www.hmsu.net/
http://www.reconfiguration-records.com/news.html
http://darkstep.org/forum/
http://c8.com/
http://chaserecords.free.fr/
It’s beyond me how anyone could think that subscribing to a music service implied any kind of perennial access to the music.
@GDesigner, do you even listen to that crap you are spewing? Ok what about a cd that you pay good money for and end up with one good “A” song and the rest of the cd is made up of “B” songs or songs that the artist didnt think was good enough for radio play? You going to tell me that this is not stealing from the fan or customer?? Or how about a live concert where the band is sleepwalking their way through or acting like they are singing, are you going to try and tell me and everyone else here that this is not a form of stealing as well?
No matter what I do or did, if I did not give 110% every time; my parents would have whaled the tar out of me asthey instilled in me the policy that if it is worth doing, then it is worth doing right every time..
Therefor when I am cheated out of a decent cd or concert or acting job in a movie, then I have no qualms in doing the same right back to the artist that cheated me in the first place. If they and the RIAA dont like it, then stop screwing around and give the fans your undivided attention for what you are being paid so damn well for. And isnt it extremely funny that people like the drummer for metallica can whine about not getting paid for a song all the while he is driving a lambo diablo and living in a house that has more rooms then the local freaking Ramada Inn! And spending 20 to 100 thousand a night on party favors for hangers on. My advice is to start giving the fans what they want and hire a freaking accountant!
When I read this, I was utterly shocked, this is what happened:
1:23PM : I read this article, and fell off my PC seat
30 SECS Later : I jumped out my bedroom window, took my clothes off
1:24PM : I danced around the street naked, jumping up and down
1:25PM : I shouted 42 times at the top of my voice, “HA!, you goodygoody legal downloaders, you feckin deserve it!”
1:26PM : A cop tried to arrest me, I punched him in the face
1:27PM : A drunk guy came over to me and did me up the @rse
1:28PM : I got shot by my neighbor
1:29PM : I stumbled back into the house, and re-read the article
1:30PM : I burst out laughing again
1:31PM : The cop arrested me
5:46PM : I was allowed 1 phone call, I used this commenting section as my 1 phone call to say: “HA!, you goodygoody legal downloaders, you feckers deserve it!”
I wonder if they bought stock in CD manufacturing…lolz