Comments on: Yahoo handed information, 4 people arrested

By: hibby

hibby — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 06:56:05 +0000

I wonder wher you got the inspiration for this post Martin?

Could it be my comment on August 27th?:

http://www.rlslog.net/yahoo-adds-new-features-for-webmail/#comment-96471

@ hedgehog,

As I mentioned before there’s one thing I hate and it’s a grass – scum of the earth. Seems like you happily support betrayal and informing on people. Come and visit my neighbourhood, so I can give you a good kicking, you rat Judas cunt!

By: lud

lud — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 02:52:14 +0000

@hegehog

Yes the laws are different,does that mean if you mention something against the law here(u.s.a.)yahoo should turn you in?Should they turn you in if you mentioned youve used drugs.or said you like anal sex in an area thats not legal.If you talked about a pirated movie should they turn you in.I didnt use yahoo much but I wont at all now.

By: D0wn

D0wn — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:10:06 +0000

@HigherIQ:
Wow, maybe I was something missunderstanding in your first post(Im not english, and no, not chinese). Reading your second post enlights some points I was first maybe missunderstanding.

nothing to add on that one.

By: rrpostal

rrpostal — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:35:54 +0000

@hedgehog

I understand the laws are different. But it seemes like you are saying everyone is obligated to help China and their oppresion, or the US for that matter. we’d all wind up in jail. I would anyway. That is where I was disagreeing. I was just explaining why people didn’t think that was a particularly wonderful set of rules to live by. I’m not going to go fight for their independence today or anything, but I also won’t just sit here and go “them’s the laws, dude”.

By: Jose

Jose — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:34:04 +0000

That must suck for the Chinese people that they can’t even think about shit.. or express their own human feelings.

CHINA CAN YOU SLAVE YOUR PEOPLE FROM DOING WHAT THEY WANT FOREVER? I hope you change your mind over their freedom, it’s not yours they are people too. Just like the government leaders that choose to have these strict rules.. If their family was being threatened for expressing their human feelings and became oppressed they would feel like their Country is controlling them.

I say LET FREEDOM RING, FROM CHINA TO US TO CUBA, LET FREEDOM RING IN THE MIDDLE EAST LET IT RING SO LOUD THAT NOT EVEN THE GOVERNMENT CAN CONTROL! OH GOD BLESS THEM AND LET FREEDOM RING!
AMEN!
AMEN

By: hegehog

hegehog — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:44:55 +0000

@rrpostal

He may only be saying something bad about his country, but they have laws in his country against doing that. Here in the U.S. the laws are different with respect to saying something bad about the government. And in both countries, ignorance of the law is not accepted as an excuse for breaking the law.

Yahoo is simply obeying the laws of the country where they are doing business.

By: TheStig

TheStig — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:44:17 +0000

Just goes to show that there is no freedom of speech in China. They did go right ahead and build an enormous firewall to ensure that only government approved websites could be accessed in China. The same things happening in America atm anyway, wont take long to get around the world.

By: rrpostal

rrpostal — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:37:37 +0000

“Why are people so updet by Yahoo helping to keep the government of China from falling?”

well…it has something to do with your definition of subvert(how would one dude overthrow a gianormous country anyway?). Really they just didn’t like some stuff he was saying. Yahoo just helped lock a guy up for saying something bad about a country. Hell, 95% of the people here do that daily, but rarely about China.

By: rrpostal

rrpostal — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:34:27 +0000

America sux and stuff…wait, does that apply here?

Just today I had a chinese company email me worried that they may be violating one of our patents. Seems a Spanish company (Spain sux and stuff!) wanted them to build something USING OUR PART AS A GUIDE. Even though the chinese could have done it cheaper, they checked with us to make sure it was OK. I was pretty darned impressed. But China still sux and everything.

By: mark

mark — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:00:24 +0000

“Have you ever thought about the amount of information which can be a search engine collecting about you?”

Yes, i have. But a search engine like Yahoo has no power compared to Google.
Google has your IP, searches (Google), e-mails (GMail), conversations (Talk), thoughts (Blogger, Blogspot), photos (Picasa), videos (YouTube), financial information (Checkout), personal sites (AdWords), personal plans (Calendar), favourite locations (Maps) and your identity (Orkut).

I really hope Google doesn’t turn evil or we will have a sh!tstorm.

By: hegehog

hegehog — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:14:49 +0000

If this guy tried to subvert the government of China, and the Chinese government feels he is a threat, then Yahoo did the right thing to help protect China.

Why are people so updet by Yahoo helping to keep the government of China from falling?

By: Bob

Bob — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:12:27 +0000

Another rlslog.net posting where Martin proves he is unable to master the english language.

And yet he continues to be allowed to post.

By: Yahoo_Sucks

Yahoo_Sucks — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:49:19 +0000

Screw Yahoo!, it’s China. Keep your mouth shut. What a bunch of wankers.

By: Emm

Emm — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:28:25 +0000

@itsme… ah, yes… but when they were told to give that information to the authorities they just showed the finger…

That information is stored just for marketing purposes… even so… the more ppl use it the more chaotic the data pool gets.

The privacy policy states clear that any personal information won’t be given away. If the company you trust our personal policy doesn’t respect that policy the leave.

TOR isn’t a solution… because you never know which of the TOR nodes might be “evil”

By: HigherIQ

HigherIQ — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:40:51 +0000

@Kevin (I’m not 12. Grow up).
@D0wn: You are the one mistaken on a few levels.
Few years means about 7 (and a couple is 2 *check a dictionary).
You don’t have the same situation everywhere with maintaining power. There is a difference from having the freedom to choose who you elect and have NO CHOICE at all.
“why did China, with all their multithousand dinasty eras chance so fast in the last years, riding the waves of capitalism?… answer: strategy”
ummm no. They do not really plan that many years ahead. In reality they plan most things 2-5 years ahead. We are not talking about some emperor who plans to build the great wall and doesn’t care how long it takes. We are talking economics and how to play globally with everyone else.
In 2002 China started to become a huge market for foreign investors. Recently however, there are many investors now that are noticing it’s only a matter of time before their market crashes. It’s a financial bubble. Have a read here: http://www.chinalyst.net/node/14029 (as it has views on both sides, not biased). I happen to work in most of Asia and I was in China when the government posted concerns that they should stop putting all their money into business within the country (because it’s just circulating, not growing).
Also have a look here: http://www.chinapost.com.tw/editorial/2007/08/14/118288/Three-things.htm
INFERIOR PRODUCTS is another major issue with China.
And I barely have anything from China in my house. A broom lol, and possibly my shaver or something else. Most things I have are from Taiwan (which although China wants to believe is still part of them, most Taiwanese dislike China), Japan, and other neighboring countries.
Saying China has all the time they need, is like saying Russia has plenty of potatoes to feed everyone. Most of China is still quite undeveloped and quite poor with a lot of people dying every year.
Who orders imitations, all over the world yes… but as one link above shows you, they are having a lot of callbacks due to very poor quality and standards.
Didn’t mattel just have millions of recalls for things manufactured in China? http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/14/business/toy.php?d=1

Lots of facts to deal with here.
Sorry for the others who wanted more info on the REAL topic here, that being yahoo asia sucks, along with communist china authorities.