Yahoo handed information, 4 people arrested
Leading US internet site Yahoo has strongly denied allegations that it “aided and abetted” torture in China by releasing information that led to the imprisonment of four dissidents and anti-government bloggers in the Communist state. The allegations were made in a lawsuit filed in April by the Washington-based World Organization for Human Rights USA. The organization alleged that Yahoo’s Hong Kong subsidiary handed over information that led to the imprisonment of dissidents, including writer Wang Xiaoning, on charges of incitement to subvert state power.
Wang was sentenced to 10 years in prison in September 2003, due in part to writings distributed over the internet. Yahoo gave his e-mail account information and IP address to the Chinese government, according to the court documents. In a filing Monday with a court in San Francisco, Yahoo asked for the lawsuit to be dismissed, arguing that the legal action was “a political case challenging the Chinese government” which had no place in the US courts. Yahoo’s filing said that it had merely been obeying the law when it gave Chinese authorities the registration information of a user who had promoted democracy in a forum. Have you ever thought about the amount of information which can be a search engine collecting about you?
Source: Wired, Guardian
What a fool.
If u do things on the net that
other ppl dont like. Stay on
your socks or steal wireless.
Microsoft yahoo it dont matter.
f they ask information they
almost always get it.
Yahoo is cheating the internets.
/2nd/
Initiatives like Tor, if more widely known, might help in these cases by masking IP addresses.
Thank god China has the Olympics, it might encourage them to see things from a more global perspective.
I’ve never ‘thought about the amount of information which can be a search engine collecting about you?’
?
China just doesn’t give a crap! That’s why in the next 25 years China will become the biggest player in the world. Before you start bashing China think about this: Our western economy is build on conquest and slavery, so who are we to judge them? Why should we police the world, the only reason we are so enlightened is because we killed millions of people for profit. I say GO CHINA, teach the world a lesson!
Wang.
if i am him i ll sueeee yahoo by paying me trillion $ or maybe by shut it down
cause its privates my email and my information
9 + 10 ? 19
China will be the biggest player in 25 years??!! Joker I see.
China is at it’s peak now… possibly for another few more years, but the fact remains that they cannot think out of the box… and the powers that be… do not want to let go of their power.
As long as you are a communist country, you cannot compete with democratic, socialist, capitalist countries (even though China seems to be more capitalist than the US).
The only thing China wants is money (all the people do there is work work work, no play). They are too backwards in thinking to progress. That is the problem. If they can get past that… then they can be a leading player… not the LEADING IMITATORS. That’s what they do best, copy/imitate others.
In anycayse, on this topic… people should always be as cautious as possible when talking about an oppressing government in a country you live in. He should be masking IP, hitting proxies, and encrypting stuff before he posts them on sites, etc.
Lesson learned I hope.
Information Warfare
“Whooooooo wanta some Wang?”
Anybody?
i dont yahoo. do you? i must admitt having quite some doubts in using any US based services. Where is this server located???
It’s more about political
China(commies) meet Yahoo(bullsh!t)
Yahoo(bullsh!t) meet China(commies)
The result is more than obvious
@HigherIQ: First, u pick a very wrong name.
2nd) I will list u up some points:
“China will be the biggest player in 25 years??!! Joker I see.
China is at it’s peak now… possibly for another few more years..”
-right…there you have your very own point. Another few more years ARE around 25~, checking the global import/export.
“but the fact remains that they cannot think out of the box… and the powers that be… do not want to let go of their power.”
-okay, now that point is really useless, since you have this situation everywhere. just Start @ Vatikan and look further to white House and so on….everywhere.
“The only thing China wants is money (all the people do there is work work work, no play). They are too backwards in thinking to progress.”
-Wow!With the first 7 words I thought, you got it. But then….wrong again. You need to ask yourself why did China, with all their multithousand dinasty eras chance so fast in the last years, riding the waves of capitalism?
Well there you can just drop a simple answer:
Strategy.
China has all the time they need, to squeeze slowly but steady every Land they are exporting stuff.
Look around in your House, and check what comes from china.
Scared?
“They are too backwards in thinking to progress.”
-No, they are just doin fine. read above…
“… not the LEADING IMITATORS”
-Guess who orders the imitations? Oooh….bingo.
“In anycayse, on this topic… people should always be as cautious as possible when talking about an oppressing government in a country you live in. He should be masking IP, hitting proxies, and encrypting stuff before he posts them on sites, etc.
Lesson learned I hope.”
-Here we finally have the exquisite salt in the soup.
(In this case, the only truth that really is a fact on that post)
@Down: The sooner you stop caring about random 12 year olds on the internet the better.
And if these allegations are true than someone should put someone to death, no kidding. Backstabbing an innocent user of your services and ending up getting him in jail, A CHINESE JAIL even, and then being able to live with yourself? I sincerely hope this person gets thrown in there with those guys, lets see how he likes 25 years of endless torture day in and day out.
/me stop using this service now. Fuck off i will be running my own SMTP/POP3 email server and for the search engine i will go for something not too popular P.E.R.I.O.D!
@Kevin (I’m not 12. Grow up).
@D0wn: You are the one mistaken on a few levels.
Few years means about 7 (and a couple is 2 *check a dictionary).
You don’t have the same situation everywhere with maintaining power. There is a difference from having the freedom to choose who you elect and have NO CHOICE at all.
“why did China, with all their multithousand dinasty eras chance so fast in the last years, riding the waves of capitalism?… answer: strategy”
ummm no. They do not really plan that many years ahead. In reality they plan most things 2-5 years ahead. We are not talking about some emperor who plans to build the great wall and doesn’t care how long it takes. We are talking economics and how to play globally with everyone else.
In 2002 China started to become a huge market for foreign investors. Recently however, there are many investors now that are noticing it’s only a matter of time before their market crashes. It’s a financial bubble. Have a read here: http://www.chinalyst.net/node/14029 (as it has views on both sides, not biased). I happen to work in most of Asia and I was in China when the government posted concerns that they should stop putting all their money into business within the country (because it’s just circulating, not growing).
Also have a look here: http://www.chinapost.com.tw/editorial/2007/08/14/118288/Three-things.htm
INFERIOR PRODUCTS is another major issue with China.
And I barely have anything from China in my house. A broom lol, and possibly my shaver or something else. Most things I have are from Taiwan (which although China wants to believe is still part of them, most Taiwanese dislike China), Japan, and other neighboring countries.
Saying China has all the time they need, is like saying Russia has plenty of potatoes to feed everyone. Most of China is still quite undeveloped and quite poor with a lot of people dying every year.
Who orders imitations, all over the world yes… but as one link above shows you, they are having a lot of callbacks due to very poor quality and standards.
Didn’t mattel just have millions of recalls for things manufactured in China? http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/14/business/toy.php?d=1
Lots of facts to deal with here.
Sorry for the others who wanted more info on the REAL topic here, that being yahoo asia sucks, along with communist china authorities.
@itsme… ah, yes… but when they were told to give that information to the authorities they just showed the finger…
That information is stored just for marketing purposes… even so… the more ppl use it the more chaotic the data pool gets.
The privacy policy states clear that any personal information won’t be given away. If the company you trust our personal policy doesn’t respect that policy the leave.
TOR isn’t a solution… because you never know which of the TOR nodes might be “evil”
Screw Yahoo!, it’s China. Keep your mouth shut. What a bunch of wankers.
Another rlslog.net posting where Martin proves he is unable to master the english language.
And yet he continues to be allowed to post.
If this guy tried to subvert the government of China, and the Chinese government feels he is a threat, then Yahoo did the right thing to help protect China.
Why are people so updet by Yahoo helping to keep the government of China from falling?
“Have you ever thought about the amount of information which can be a search engine collecting about you?”
Yes, i have. But a search engine like Yahoo has no power compared to Google.
Google has your IP, searches (Google), e-mails (GMail), conversations (Talk), thoughts (Blogger, Blogspot), photos (Picasa), videos (YouTube), financial information (Checkout), personal sites (AdWords), personal plans (Calendar), favourite locations (Maps) and your identity (Orkut).
I really hope Google doesn’t turn evil or we will have a sh!tstorm.
America sux and stuff…wait, does that apply here?
Just today I had a chinese company email me worried that they may be violating one of our patents. Seems a Spanish company (Spain sux and stuff!) wanted them to build something USING OUR PART AS A GUIDE. Even though the chinese could have done it cheaper, they checked with us to make sure it was OK. I was pretty darned impressed. But China still sux and everything.
“Why are people so updet by Yahoo helping to keep the government of China from falling?”
well…it has something to do with your definition of subvert(how would one dude overthrow a gianormous country anyway?). Really they just didn’t like some stuff he was saying. Yahoo just helped lock a guy up for saying something bad about a country. Hell, 95% of the people here do that daily, but rarely about China.
Just goes to show that there is no freedom of speech in China. They did go right ahead and build an enormous firewall to ensure that only government approved websites could be accessed in China. The same things happening in America atm anyway, wont take long to get around the world.
@rrpostal
He may only be saying something bad about his country, but they have laws in his country against doing that. Here in the U.S. the laws are different with respect to saying something bad about the government. And in both countries, ignorance of the law is not accepted as an excuse for breaking the law.
Yahoo is simply obeying the laws of the country where they are doing business.
That must suck for the Chinese people that they can’t even think about shit.. or express their own human feelings.
CHINA CAN YOU SLAVE YOUR PEOPLE FROM DOING WHAT THEY WANT FOREVER? I hope you change your mind over their freedom, it’s not yours they are people too. Just like the government leaders that choose to have these strict rules.. If their family was being threatened for expressing their human feelings and became oppressed they would feel like their Country is controlling them.
I say LET FREEDOM RING, FROM CHINA TO US TO CUBA, LET FREEDOM RING IN THE MIDDLE EAST LET IT RING SO LOUD THAT NOT EVEN THE GOVERNMENT CAN CONTROL! OH GOD BLESS THEM AND LET FREEDOM RING!
AMEN!
AMEN
@hedgehog
I understand the laws are different. But it seemes like you are saying everyone is obligated to help China and their oppresion, or the US for that matter. we’d all wind up in jail. I would anyway. That is where I was disagreeing. I was just explaining why people didn’t think that was a particularly wonderful set of rules to live by. I’m not going to go fight for their independence today or anything, but I also won’t just sit here and go “them’s the laws, dude”.
@HigherIQ:
Wow, maybe I was something missunderstanding in your first post(Im not english, and no, not chinese). Reading your second post enlights some points I was first maybe missunderstanding.
nothing to add on that one.
@hegehog
Yes the laws are different,does that mean if you mention something against the law here(u.s.a.)yahoo should turn you in?Should they turn you in if you mentioned youve used drugs.or said you like anal sex in an area thats not legal.If you talked about a pirated movie should they turn you in.I didnt use yahoo much but I wont at all now.
I wonder wher you got the inspiration for this post Martin?
Could it be my comment on August 27th?:
http://www.rlslog.net/yahoo-adds-new-features-for-webmail/#comment-96471
@ hedgehog,
As I mentioned before there’s one thing I hate and it’s a grass - scum of the earth. Seems like you happily support betrayal and informing on people. Come and visit my neighbourhood, so I can give you a good kicking, you rat Judas cunt!