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		<title>By: no name</title>
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		<dc:creator>no name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least we know she wasn&#039;t a leecher lol

She should go get her lawyer and sue the company for making a sh*t game.</description>
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<p>She should go get her lawyer and sue the company for making a sh*t game.</p>
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		<title>By: John Doe</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly don&#039;t know if this news is real or fake. What I do know is that I live in a country where most new PC titles come out late (in most of the cases the delay is about 1-2 months) or never. There are a few exceptions. For example Bioshock was available in 28.08.2007. One new title costs around 50 euros. Shops and distributors never lower the prices. For example I saw a copy of Bloodrayne festering on the shelf with a price of 45 euros.Lower prices are achieved when a game is launched very late, like 6-8 month late, and still then price is way higher than the actual prices from Amazon.co.UK for example. Lowest price I could find for Splinter Cell Double Agent in my country is 40 Euros. Sometimes the delays are caused because of some atrocious form of localization (usually the printed manual and the cover). Anyway my monthly wage is about 900 euros, and it&#039;s pretty decent for my country. From those money I have to pay bills, buy food and so on. Basically I cannot afford to buy more than let&#039;s say 4 new titles a month, and even that with difficulties. I tried to buy online. The price + shipment don&#039;t come near the price of the games on the shelves. But they don&#039;t send games to my country. Of course some online shops send to games to my country but in my opinion are not trustworthy. PC games seem to be a luxury in my country. I mean I don&#039;t understand. A person from UK with a monthly wage about 3-4 times higher, has to pay for Splinter Cell Double Agent around 6-8 Euros and I have to pay for the same thing 40 euros. Yeah I almost forgot, I tried buying digital versions, but they only accept PayPal and PayPal sucks (Had some bad experiences while trying to buy from a US online store...) So there seems to be only 2 solutions...Get pirated versions or forget the whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly don&#8217;t know if this news is real or fake. What I do know is that I live in a country where most new PC titles come out late (in most of the cases the delay is about 1-2 months) or never. There are a few exceptions. For example Bioshock was available in 28.08.2007. One new title costs around 50 euros. Shops and distributors never lower the prices. For example I saw a copy of Bloodrayne festering on the shelf with a price of 45 euros.Lower prices are achieved when a game is launched very late, like 6-8 month late, and still then price is way higher than the actual prices from Amazon.co.UK for example. Lowest price I could find for Splinter Cell Double Agent in my country is 40 Euros. Sometimes the delays are caused because of some atrocious form of localization (usually the printed manual and the cover). Anyway my monthly wage is about 900 euros, and it&#8217;s pretty decent for my country. From those money I have to pay bills, buy food and so on. Basically I cannot afford to buy more than let&#8217;s say 4 new titles a month, and even that with difficulties. I tried to buy online. The price + shipment don&#8217;t come near the price of the games on the shelves. But they don&#8217;t send games to my country. Of course some online shops send to games to my country but in my opinion are not trustworthy. PC games seem to be a luxury in my country. I mean I don&#8217;t understand. A person from UK with a monthly wage about 3-4 times higher, has to pay for Splinter Cell Double Agent around 6-8 Euros and I have to pay for the same thing 40 euros. Yeah I almost forgot, I tried buying digital versions, but they only accept PayPal and PayPal sucks (Had some bad experiences while trying to buy from a US online store&#8230;) So there seems to be only 2 solutions&#8230;Get pirated versions or forget the whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: robinhood</title>
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		<dc:creator>robinhood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scare tactics .. nothing more, nothing less</description>
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		<title>By: futureofmusic</title>
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		<dc:creator>futureofmusic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do companies like sky and virgin media give you a monthly allowance if they dont expect you to upload/download??

I get 40gb per month and stick to just under that so surely the companies should get a percentage off the companies like sky for this not the customer. we get an allowance so we should be able to use it how we want. We get the option on phone tariffs with free minutes or texts so why not with downloading etc.

Regards

futureofmusic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do companies like sky and virgin media give you a monthly allowance if they dont expect you to upload/download??</p>
<p>I get 40gb per month and stick to just under that so surely the companies should get a percentage off the companies like sky for this not the customer. we get an allowance so we should be able to use it how we want. We get the option on phone tariffs with free minutes or texts so why not with downloading etc.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>futureofmusic</p>
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		<title>By: slothkiller</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/woman-fined-16000-for-illegally-downloading-a-game/comment-page-2/#comment-447077</link>
		<dc:creator>slothkiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully the 25000 will all contest, I&#039;d love to see how the courts deal with that huge waste of their time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully the 25000 will all contest, I&#8217;d love to see how the courts deal with that huge waste of their time.</p>
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		<title>By: Noobie ish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noobie ish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So is it a case of finding a tracker you can trust ? For instance Demonoid has its inferno tracker, and is a reliable safe as in content etc. Or do we think that if demonoid got busted they could quite easily go thru every account ?? 
sounds all a bit crazy. I do think its has alot to do with where you download from. 


and how the hell do you mask your ip ? on bitcomet u can see it clear as day ..but i loves my bitcomet:) ranked Guru</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is it a case of finding a tracker you can trust ? For instance Demonoid has its inferno tracker, and is a reliable safe as in content etc. Or do we think that if demonoid got busted they could quite easily go thru every account ??<br />
sounds all a bit crazy. I do think its has alot to do with where you download from. </p>
<p>and how the hell do you mask your ip ? on bitcomet u can see it clear as day ..but i loves my bitcomet:) ranked Guru</p>
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		<title>By: moliugas</title>
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		<dc:creator>moliugas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lads
do you think is a real thing? Maybe it is just big show for others- be good boy- do not be a pirate.</description>
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do you think is a real thing? Maybe it is just big show for others- be good boy- do not be a pirate.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a demo of this game?
Not!
So she only used download version for testing purposes. A.k.a DEMO!
And sharing of any stuff is not illegal.
Sony Bravia is intellectual property of Sony trademark, if I wan&#039;t to share it, would I have to pay ot go to jail?

Really US and EU is become more money grabbing every day. But time will come when oridinary people will stand up and fight against oppresors (politicians, lawyers......etc).
So be aware of your actions goverment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a demo of this game?<br />
Not!<br />
So she only used download version for testing purposes. A.k.a DEMO!<br />
And sharing of any stuff is not illegal.<br />
Sony Bravia is intellectual property of Sony trademark, if I wan&#8217;t to share it, would I have to pay ot go to jail?</p>
<p>Really US and EU is become more money grabbing every day. But time will come when oridinary people will stand up and fight against oppresors (politicians, lawyers&#8230;&#8230;etc).<br />
So be aware of your actions goverment.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_sof_pir_rat-crime-software-piracy-rate ... Read the top 10 of that list. Seems funny that the majority if not all those countries wouldn&#039;t be considered developed countries. But when you look at the bottom what do you see??? Hmm. Maybe that&#039;s per capita but it didn&#039;t say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_sof_pir_rat-crime-software-piracy-rate" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_sof_pir_rat-crime-software-piracy-rate</a> &#8230; Read the top 10 of that list. Seems funny that the majority if not all those countries wouldn&#8217;t be considered developed countries. But when you look at the bottom what do you see??? Hmm. Maybe that&#8217;s per capita but it didn&#8217;t say.</p>
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		<title>By: Porkchopster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Porkchopster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@96

Colobia is &quot;only&quot; 4th</description>
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<p>Colobia is &#8220;only&#8221; 4th</p>
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		<title>By: jonny</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok so someone answer this.. is it safe to use rapidshare,FF,netload..etc for downloading??.. or can the company&#039;s still find u and sue your ass???.. that is the bigquestion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok so someone answer this.. is it safe to use rapidshare,FF,netload..etc for downloading??.. or can the company&#8217;s still find u and sue your ass???.. that is the bigquestion</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you live in the UK, are a P2P user and your ISP is one of those &quot;Big 6&quot; that has been in the news recently, I suggest you switch providers, otherwise expect warning letters and/or fines.

The fact that she got caught tells us that she is a n00b (aka typical computer user) when it comes to p2p safety. its not her fault, she was probably too busy being a dumb woman. Let me guess what her computer is like:

*factory standard Acer/Dell/HP etc.
*Norton or McAfee security (cos they always come with standard computers) probably past the free 1 year subscription.
*p2p program either Limewire or KaZaA, autorun at startup (cos shes dumb)
*no p2p security (cos she&#039;s dumb)
*shared folder full of top 40 hits (cos she has no taste in music and she&#039;s dumb) and a pinball game :D
*Full of spyware/adware.

I read that the pinball game has sold 800 copies but was downloaded at least 12,000 times. Sounds like an awesome game, anybody have a torrent? :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you live in the UK, are a P2P user and your ISP is one of those &#8220;Big 6&#8243; that has been in the news recently, I suggest you switch providers, otherwise expect warning letters and/or fines.</p>
<p>The fact that she got caught tells us that she is a n00b (aka typical computer user) when it comes to p2p safety. its not her fault, she was probably too busy being a dumb woman. Let me guess what her computer is like:</p>
<p>*factory standard Acer/Dell/HP etc.<br />
*Norton or McAfee security (cos they always come with standard computers) probably past the free 1 year subscription.<br />
*p2p program either Limewire or KaZaA, autorun at startup (cos shes dumb)<br />
*no p2p security (cos she&#8217;s dumb)<br />
*shared folder full of top 40 hits (cos she has no taste in music and she&#8217;s dumb) and a pinball game <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
*Full of spyware/adware.</p>
<p>I read that the pinball game has sold 800 copies but was downloaded at least 12,000 times. Sounds like an awesome game, anybody have a torrent? <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Foo!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foo!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too received an official &quot;Warning&quot; letter from Davenport Lyons.  I was using UTorrent and dolwnloading the game &quot;two worlds&quot;. But because i was using utorrnt and not a free site fro example i have to upload the file while downloading also to get speed.
So after them getting my address from my ISP they wrote me a letter asking for £300 for downloading and £200 for uploading.
I spoke to local lawyers but they didnt have a cluse on what to do, so i went to they Citizens advice beuro and they advise me to egnore it as they could only take you to small claims court.
Anyway i think i am very lucky here as i was reading in computer active magazine that 4 more ppl got taken to court by Lyons and made to pay £800 fine and its still not final. thay may need to pay damages to game producers.!!!

Mask ip in anyway you can... or move to NZB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too received an official &#8220;Warning&#8221; letter from Davenport Lyons.  I was using UTorrent and dolwnloading the game &#8220;two worlds&#8221;. But because i was using utorrnt and not a free site fro example i have to upload the file while downloading also to get speed.<br />
So after them getting my address from my ISP they wrote me a letter asking for £300 for downloading and £200 for uploading.<br />
I spoke to local lawyers but they didnt have a cluse on what to do, so i went to they Citizens advice beuro and they advise me to egnore it as they could only take you to small claims court.<br />
Anyway i think i am very lucky here as i was reading in computer active magazine that 4 more ppl got taken to court by Lyons and made to pay £800 fine and its still not final. thay may need to pay damages to game producers.!!!</p>
<p>Mask ip in anyway you can&#8230; or move to NZB</p>
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		<title>By: @93</title>
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		<dc:creator>@93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>92 said how awesome it is to live in a third world country like colombia because he isnt bothered for downloading crap 
of course that&#039;s worth having the highest murder rate in the world</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>92 said how awesome it is to live in a third world country like colombia because he isnt bothered for downloading crap<br />
of course that&#8217;s worth having the highest murder rate in the world</p>
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		<title>By: HaRcOrE</title>
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		<dc:creator>HaRcOrE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mate got a letter from Codemasters solictor&#039;s last December they tracked his ip on Bit Comet downloading Colin McRae Dirt for 360. he had to pay £500 or they would take him to court!
The whole thing really shook him up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mate got a letter from Codemasters solictor&#8217;s last December they tracked his ip on Bit Comet downloading Colin McRae Dirt for 360. he had to pay £500 or they would take him to court!<br />
The whole thing really shook him up!</p>
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