Comments on: University of Oregon says NO! to RIAA http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/ Hot info about new scene releases! Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:03:23 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: gonzalez http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-172869 gonzalez Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:44:07 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-172869 «- The music business is a cruel and shallow trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men lie like dogs. There is also a negative side.» - Hunter S. Thompson «- The music business is a cruel and shallow trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men lie like dogs. There is also a negative side.»

- Hunter S. Thompson

]]> By: YeahRight http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-141697 YeahRight Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:52:00 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-141697 How pathetic. When "we can't tell who did this" is taken as "standing up to the man" you know you've got an epically losing cause. UoO didn't 'stand up' to anybody, they just admitted that both their network tech and housing conditions are horrid, nothing more and nothing less. The RIAA has already won, in spades. No matter how this case progresses from here, no one at that school with a functioning brain cell will be downloading squat for quite some time to come. How pathetic. When “we can’t tell who did this” is taken as “standing up to the man” you know you’ve got an epically losing cause. UoO didn’t ’stand up’ to anybody, they just admitted that both their network tech and housing conditions are horrid, nothing more and nothing less.

The RIAA has already won, in spades. No matter how this case progresses from here, no one at that school with a functioning brain cell will be downloading squat for quite some time to come.

]]> By: Andy http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-141528 Andy Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:25:20 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-141528 They should have been using an IP filter... http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/index.php Cuts your chance of being found from 95% to 0.1% (recent research) Azureus and eMule both have support for loading these files up! They should have been using an IP filter…

http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/index.php

Cuts your chance of being found from 95% to 0.1% (recent research)

Azureus and eMule both have support for loading these files up!

]]> By: Tim http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-141489 Tim Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:40:29 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-141489 Read this article on the future of the music industry. A VERY good read: http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2007/10/when-pigs-fly-death-of-oink-birth-of.html Read this article on the future of the music industry. A VERY good read:

http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2007/10/when-pigs-fly-death-of-oink-birth-of.html

]]> By: buttzilla http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-141378 buttzilla Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:23:46 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-141378 Go University of Oreogon. Finally someone with the balls to stand up to these scumbags. Go University of Oreogon. Finally someone with the balls to stand up to these scumbags.

]]> By: eclipsetorrents.org http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-141305 eclipsetorrents.org Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:23:56 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-141305 yes its about time www.eclipsetorrents.org yes its about time

http://www.eclipsetorrents.org

]]> By: Master Bader http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-141061 Master Bader Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:30:18 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-141061 Makes me proud to be from oregon Makes me proud to be from oregon

]]> By: mr deadman http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-141058 mr deadman Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:28:25 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-141058 @ 13, hehe doin that right now.... @ 13, hehe doin that right now….

]]> By: the_doctor http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-141019 the_doctor Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:55:12 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-141019 Actually, perhaps it is good to aggravate them, get them to make more stupid moves to increase the rate of their downfall... Actually, perhaps it is good to aggravate them, get them to make more stupid moves to increase the rate of their downfall…

]]> By: the_doctor http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-141016 the_doctor Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:52:24 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-141016 @21 - You do make a point as far as the redistribution when using a torrent. I was going down the line that the RIAA/MPAA is going to have a much better chance of getting IP's from RS than they would off a tracker. More or less, the rapid share link is illegal since it directly gives you copyrighted material, where a torrent file is not, well, the link on the page gives you a non-copyrighted torrent file, and having that file is not illegal, using it is. I would also go off the volume of downloads of a popular torrent vs a RS link. I would assume the torrent is going to be a LOT more people, which is harder to press charges. Either way, I don't think anyone has much to worry about, except for the torrent sites themselves, and they just have to deal with crap, since they aren't actually doing anything illegal. In either case, you know, I would REALLY like to see profit loss amount due to piracy, real ones. I highly doubt their is that much impact, in a recent survey, I saw that theater attendance had dropped, but that was due to on-demand, DVD & people having Plasma and LCD TV's, not due to piracy. The ones of us that do pirate movies probably would not be going to the theaters regardless, nor would we be purchasing DVD's. We might spend $10 a month on DVD rentals... if even. The only cases I see that take away money are where people really complain about quality, those are the people that would be going to a theatre or purchasing a DVD (you know, the ones that complain even if it is a direct and perfect DVD rip). One thing that I think is going to piss off and encourage the MPAA to really crack down are the HD-DVD & Blu-Ray rips. Before, one could "try" to argue that the movie download was to "sample" the film before buying an actual DVD, since the quality was never the "best". However, now rips are stating to far surpass the quality of a store bought DVD without adding new equipment to your A/V system. I do have to say that it is quite amusing at how we keep aggravating our own enemies. @21 – You do make a point as far as the redistribution when using a torrent. I was going down the line that the RIAA/MPAA is going to have a much better chance of getting IP’s from RS than they would off a tracker. More or less, the rapid share link is illegal since it directly gives you copyrighted material, where a torrent file is not, well, the link on the page gives you a non-copyrighted torrent file, and having that file is not illegal, using it is. I would also go off the volume of downloads of a popular torrent vs a RS link. I would assume the torrent is going to be a LOT more people, which is harder to press charges.

Either way, I don’t think anyone has much to worry about, except for the torrent sites themselves, and they just have to deal with crap, since they aren’t actually doing anything illegal.

In either case, you know, I would REALLY like to see profit loss amount due to piracy, real ones. I highly doubt their is that much impact, in a recent survey, I saw that theater attendance had dropped, but that was due to on-demand, DVD & people having Plasma and LCD TV’s, not due to piracy. The ones of us that do pirate movies probably would not be going to the theaters regardless, nor would we be purchasing DVD’s. We might spend $10 a month on DVD rentals… if even.

The only cases I see that take away money are where people really complain about quality, those are the people that would be going to a theatre or purchasing a DVD (you know, the ones that complain even if it is a direct and perfect DVD rip). One thing that I think is going to piss off and encourage the MPAA to really crack down are the HD-DVD & Blu-Ray rips.

Before, one could “try” to argue that the movie download was to “sample” the film before buying an actual DVD, since the quality was never the “best”. However, now rips are stating to far surpass the quality of a store bought DVD without adding new equipment to your A/V system.

I do have to say that it is quite amusing at how we keep aggravating our own enemies.

]]> By: B513A http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-141013 B513A Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:51:14 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-141013 @ Honey: I'm with you. Especially that last bit. Americans need to learn that we are (or were) in charge of our own country, that's the way it's supposed to be at least. People need to stop sitting on their asses and say something, stand up, pick a fight for a worthy cause that can benefit everyone. If we all did something, we could win. We all know that the MPAA and the RIAA are on the downfall anyway. We just have to make it happen! @ Honey: I’m with you. Especially that last bit. Americans need to learn that we are (or were) in charge of our own country, that’s the way it’s supposed to be at least. People need to stop sitting on their asses and say something, stand up, pick a fight for a worthy cause that can benefit everyone. If we all did something, we could win. We all know that the MPAA and the RIAA are on the downfall anyway. We just have to make it happen!

]]> By: Wekke http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-140939 Wekke Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:48:12 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-140939 I forgot to say, I download stuff from the internet, I pay my internetprovider money enough a month. so to be honest, I don't do anything wrong! My internetprovider provides me with the possibilities to download illegal stuff of the internet, so if the RIAA needs money... Ask my internetprovider for it!!! I forgot to say, I download stuff from the internet, I pay my internetprovider money enough a month.
so to be honest, I don’t do anything wrong!
My internetprovider provides me with the possibilities to download illegal stuff of the internet, so if the RIAA needs money…
Ask my internetprovider for it!!!

]]> By: Wekke http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-140926 Wekke Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:38:37 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-140926 The RIAA is just like in many countries a firm that earns money of the artists, when a song gets played on the radio or tv, those stations have to pay royalties to the firms like the RIAA. But they don't pay the artist when they get the money, they pay him nearly one year later, so that the money the RIAA got is worth double. The "suits" of the RIAA see less and less money in their pockets so thats why they sue the little fish who has to really work for its money. Artist have always earned the most with concerts. they too have to work for their money. I'm a musician myself and I tried to get a record deal, my music wasn't profitable enough for the recordcompaies so they said "sowwy dude, your music is not that good" I'm still a happy person with a steady job downloading 'bout 100GB a month of movies, music and series but I keep it for myself, if somebody needs something that I have I give it to that person for free. I know that is illegal but I don't give a s**** As long as the persons near me are happy, I'm happy The RIAA is just like in many countries a firm that earns money of the artists, when a song gets played on the radio or tv, those stations have to pay royalties to the firms like the RIAA.
But they don’t pay the artist when they get the money, they pay him nearly one year later, so that the money the RIAA got is worth double.
The “suits” of the RIAA see less and less money in their pockets so thats why they sue the little fish who has to really work for its money.
Artist have always earned the most with concerts.
they too have to work for their money.

I’m a musician myself and I tried to get a record deal,
my music wasn’t profitable enough for the recordcompaies so they said
“sowwy dude, your music is not that good”
I’m still a happy person with a steady job
downloading ’bout 100GB a month of movies, music and series
but I keep it for myself, if somebody needs something that I have
I give it to that person for free. I know that is illegal but I don’t give a s**** As long as the persons near me are happy, I’m happy

]]> By: Rekrul http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-140923 Rekrul Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:33:18 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-140923 the_doctor, There's nothing inherently safer about Bittorrent. When you download, you automatically share what you're downloading, which qualifies as distribution. Your IP address is out there for the world to see. They then use the argument that since you made it "available" hundreds or even thousands of people might have downloaded it from you. On the other hand, Rapidshare and Usenet are one-way services. You either upload OR you download, you don't do both. Nobody can see what you're downloading except RS or the Usenet server (and your ISP). To catch you, the RIAA/MPAA would have to get a court order to go throught their logs (since they can't see anyone's IP address, they can't sue anyone directly), and even then all they would see is that you downloaded a single copy of an album or movie. I'm not sure how the penalties are figured when no distribution is involved, but I tend to think that it would be much less than for distributing content. It wouldn't be practical to drag someone into court for making a single copy of something. the_doctor,

There’s nothing inherently safer about Bittorrent. When you download, you automatically share what you’re downloading, which qualifies as distribution. Your IP address is out there for the world to see. They then use the argument that since you made it “available” hundreds or even thousands of people might have downloaded it from you.

On the other hand, Rapidshare and Usenet are one-way services. You either upload OR you download, you don’t do both. Nobody can see what you’re downloading except RS or the Usenet server (and your ISP). To catch you, the RIAA/MPAA would have to get a court order to go throught their logs (since they can’t see anyone’s IP address, they can’t sue anyone directly), and even then all they would see is that you downloaded a single copy of an album or movie. I’m not sure how the penalties are figured when no distribution is involved, but I tend to think that it would be much less than for distributing content. It wouldn’t be practical to drag someone into court for making a single copy of something.

]]> By: Bainwol http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/comment-page-1/#comment-140899 Bainwol Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:11:14 +0000 http://www.rlslog.net/university-of-oregon-says-no-to-riaa/#comment-140899 RIAA = Raping Intellectually Artist Association! RIAA = Raping Intellectually Artist Association!

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