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UK: tougher piracy laws, blacklists of pirates

Six of the UK’s biggest net providers have agreed a plan with the music industry to tackle piracy online. The deal, negotiated by the government, will see hundreds of thousands of letters sent to net users suspected of illegally sharing music. Hard core file-sharers could see their broadband connections slowed, under measures proposed by the UK government. BT, Virgin, Orange, Tiscali, BSkyB and Carphone Warehouse have all signed up. Geoff Taylor, chief executive of the BPI, which represents the music industry, said: “All of the major ISPs in the UK now recognise they have a responsibility to deal with illegal file-sharers on their networks.” The plan commits the firms to working towards a “significant reduction” in the illegal sharing of music.

In addition to this chance, parents whose children download music and films illegally will be blacklisted and have their internet access curbed under government reforms to fight online piracy. Households that ignore warnings will be subjected to online surveillance and their internet speeds will be reduced, making it very difficult for them to download large files. The measures, the first of their kind in the world, will be announced today by Baroness Vadera, who brokered the deal between internet service providers and Ofcom, the telecoms body. About 6.5 million Britons are thought to have downloaded music illegally last year. It has been estimated that illegal downloads will cost the music industry alone £1 billion over the next five years.

Source: Times, BBC

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  1. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:05

    lol good job my connection isnt my connection ;)

  2. Meso
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:05

    All whats going to happen is people will migrate to an isp that are against this sort of thing.

  3. Street
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:06

    It won’t work…Didn’t they try this already?

  4. o
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:06

    lol@UK

  5. THEMOZZER420
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:07

    sucks to be british today.

  6. Xyu
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:09

    Wow! broadband in UK is already a joke (your lucky if you get 1/10 of the promised speed), now with this agreement nothing gonna hold ISPs to cut the speed to everyone - why waste bandwidth? we’ll charge the same price but will give even less then before and if someone complains, we’ll tell “you’ve been suspecting in downloading illegal stuff, read our policy”.

    B.S. this is!

  7. chippie
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:10

    then in that case the internet providers will be losing one hell of a lot of customers then their problem

  8. PBoy
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:10

    my isp is Virgin bloody hell I have had a letter already saying my connect will be slowed down but not for piracy …. I just use it a lot lol

    Cheers
    PBoy

  9. randomer
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:10

    lol. its already in action, with tiscali at least. if you go over your ‘fair usage’ they slow your speeds down and send e-mails. now theyre going to send letters as well? what a waste of paper. they ahvent, and probably wont, crack down on it very harshly. the courts cant handle the current amount of crimes, let alone 6.5million more ;)

    and only virgin users will feel hard done by, the others can be beaten on price and performance by several other companies

  10. Victor
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:11

    What ever happened to not messing with what is in the tubes?

  11. Lefty
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:14

    here is a question i never asked before. how safe is newsgroups? even using a SSL connection?

  12. Jumpin5oy
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:16

    here is a question i never asked before. how safe is newsgroups? even using a SSL connection?

  13. matthew
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:16

    hopefully they dont do stuff like this in america..
    im always dl movies from this site

  14. John
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:17

    LOL @ rlslog and their blatant copypasta.

    You’d think with only posting 10 releases a day, they’d have time to type a paragraph. Guess not.

    See original (read: identical) story here.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7522334.stm

    For a site that posts nothing BUT releases (and none of this digg/alt. news junk), see below.

    http://www.phazedemon.com

  15. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:17

    lmao i already screwed virgin and ntl before them, they havent got a clue as to is really using there internet ffs.

  16. chippie
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:18

    america will follow soon dont worry about it they anit getting away with it

  17. anon
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:19

    bit stupid isn’t it i mean how many people using the internet dont download? that question might aswell be a rhetorical one because the answer is no-one everyone at one time in their life has downloaded and just because ISPs have said they will slow connections and send letters (very scary ^o) doesnt mean people will stop downloading songs and films its inadequate and totally pointless

  18. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:20

    @ 11/12 ssl is totally secure its not called ssl for nothing, right!

  19. davyjones
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:20

    i like how they say “top” all those isps are total rubbish

  20. A.Bundy
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:21

    its just gonna end up underground. they cant trace encrypted packets. fukcin wanks.

  21. anon
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:22

    just read the news bbc article and read it is just about music (correct me if i’m wrong) but what about the music videos on youtube surely most people know that you can download videos from youtube is this classed as piracy?

  22. ricko
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:23

    anyone know of a good ISP that wont be subject to this police state system? “online surveillance”. arnt we spyed on enough? anyway they wont stop me, they would have to put me away first, and if they do that im sure they have internt in prison :D

  23. HDpunk
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:23

    wow, sucks to be british

  24. lane
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:26

    tis just music at first i think….do people still p2p for music?
    i havent done that for many years, ever since blogs,storage sites started being used to potential.

  25. SccS
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:27

    @ StOoPiD m8 just cause you got a cloned modem dont think ur safe. that puts you top of the target list ;) they can tract every modem on the network to the connection in the green box in your street. so soon as the legit subscriber gets a letter and complains they will be knocking your door.

  26. Death260
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:28

    piracy is impossible to stop, in my opinion they have only two ways:
    1- Cut the prices of games, movies, etc, because they are too expensive. People won’t pay that much when it’s very easy to get it through internet.
    2- Don’t cut the prices, keep doing this kind of things, and they’ll get only more and more piracy.

    It’s as simple as that.

  27. SccS
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:31

    ohh and ssl only encrypts the data in stream the server still logs all the information. quite easy to get a court order to force the server owners to cough up the server logs.

    its quite simple.
    if you cant do the time don’t do the crime.

  28. magnus
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:31

    here in australia certain isps have started blocking popular torrent trackers to try and stay in line with threats made to them over piracy by their users. All i did was churn to another company. Problem solved.

  29. freedom
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:32

    just another step to 1984. why dont you guys rise up and pull a guy fawkes.

    a lot of these people need to die…

  30. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:32

    I’m in the UK, I went to a party 2 weeks ago, They are on NTL/Virgin. I turn the modem over I have a MAC addy, I go home and program my modem with that MAC Addy and force MAX speed config on it. My point is that the poor sap who’s MAC I just cloned is gonna get it, not me. ISPs need to wise up pure and simple!

  31. John
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:34

    why people would still be using P2P is beyond me. Kazaa, Limewire, and Direct Connect are a few examples and are 3 that should definitely be avoided. I havent used P2P in like 6 years and would never use it again. No matter how many attempts are made to impede this sort of thing they’ll never stop it. They should worry about more critical internet issues like the pedophiles roaming around on the net.

  32. im stealing your ints
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:34

    eventually half the country will be stealing their next door neighbours wireless.

  33. John
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:36

    and the only true way to stop this is to cut off internet totally. Not gonna happen.

  34. Hmm
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:38

    “My point is that the poor sap who’s MAC I just cloned is gonna get it, not me.”

    The BPI record IPs, not MAC addresses. So that won’t make the slightest bit of difference.

  35. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:39

    SccS I know what you are are saying bud but see my post above, Its happening everywhere, peeps will get letters they know nothing about.

  36. john
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:39

    question you think comcast will do this?

  37. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:40

    Hmm the IP is not registered to me dummy ffs.

  38. John
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:42

    @12 Newsgroups are totally legal anyways. There basic use is for just as there called News. But eventually files were allowed to be uploaded to NewsGroups. Even ISP’s have a newsgroup server address that you can use. Some are unlimited but like mine for example only allow 250 mbs a day. Check your ISP to see what there news address is and what the limit is easch day if there is any.

  39. Hmm
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:43

    “Hmm the IP is not registered to me dummy ffs.”

    So you’re connecting via someone else’s internet account? I think you misunderstand. If you’re connecting to the internet through your own home’s phone line, through an ISP which you pay for, your online activity is visible just like anyone else’s. No matter if you change the MAC address of your hardware.

  40. cdntcareless
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:44

    While I agree with most of the above in theory practicality suggests that it is a real possibility it will work. If a voluntary agreement works with the larger ISP’s then the Govt will go ‘compulsion’ - so changing ISP’s is not a solution (long-term). Govt pressure usually creates a ‘black-market’ (drugs, migrants etc) but can you operate a black market in something which must operate in the “real” world, such as internet connections. The only way that you could avoid being detected would be to have your own network - and that’s a real possibility? , I think not. Even BT complain about the cost of infrastructure changes and expansion - and they have a whole frigging telephone system to superimpose their internet on.
    No, ‘fraid it’s bad news. Of course people will get round it but I think it will be a big damper in the shorter time.
    [And you can bet that my beloved 'stralian govt will jump on the bandwagon - fascist b*****ds]

  41. ricko
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:44

    silly thing of me to buy the internet of a record label “virgin”. i realy think virgin are trying to take over the world. i think most stuff downloaded from the internt are tv shows.

    mind u i dont download much music, ive never bought a music CD in my life and never intend to, the price is stupidly high. also i think it hurts the music industry to have that much money, music is about art not money.

    we could all do with less britney spears

  42. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:44

    @ 34 I just re-read what you said and laughed my ass off! LMAO

  43. John
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:45

    Comcast did it to me when I was using Direct Connect. Someone downloaded a few files from a game I had in my share. Few weeks later I received a letter stating to remove the files from the internet. They even had my user tag stated in the letter.

  44. Hmm
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:46

    “@ 34 I just re-read what you said and laughed my ass off! LMAO”

    Care to elaborate, smart-a­ss?

  45. m0
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:47

    just use a high gain antenna & find an open network…chances if you use a 24db+ antenna, a router like a linksys w/ DD-wrt…and just spoof your MAC/clone it…as well as only use certain ‘hotspots’ for your official buisness (like personal email, etc) and other hotspots for your dirty work….it’ll be pretty hard to find the person ‘responsible’ for piracy. stupid, stupid, stupid authoritarians….

  46. BigDawg500
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:48

    The New World Order strikes again!!!

  47. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:50

    @ Hmm.
    Whats a phone line? Did I ever say I was connected via one?
    SccS hit the nail on the head,You just think you know better(which you do not cable is totally different).

  48. Zack
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:51

    Oh wow. Only $1B every 5 years? Considering the much larger amount they make yearly (Assuming the profits that is), that is kinda ridiculous. When will they realise that acting, being a music artist, etc. is no different if not easier then the much more difficult jobs out there. Someone that shows up, wears a “poker face”, and reads gets 40x more then a Firefighter for Bedside Nurse. Those are the tuff hard-@$$ jobs, and the most deadly. Yet they get paid so much lower.

  49. DUNNY IS KING
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:51

    best thing to do now is just take ya laptop to McDonalds n use their free Wireless Net. ;p

  50. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 01:56

    @Hmm,
    basically I can have as many IP’s as I like (change mac addy etc) each IP is allocated by the ISP to a particular modem.
    Put it this way if I change MAC Addy I get a new IP, got it?
    BPI can log as many IP’s as they want but its never “mine”

  51. DUNNY IS KING
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:01

    StOoPiD is right. cable users have set ip’s unlike AOL which changes. thats why its easier for virgin to track people with this new downloadin ban bollox. change the MAC get a new ip means its harder to find you.

  52. Alexander
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:08

    “to deal with illegal file-sharers”

    And who are the legal one?

  53. mfc
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:12

    I POSTED THIS HOURS AGO :( :P

  54. common sense
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:14

    Do any of you “naa they cant find me” dweebs think for one bloody second that they cant find you if they wanted to? There is NO foolproof way to block you from someone locating you. I mean get real. They find one section of the country has a lot of downloading and they start encrypting the accounts and poof, your hot spots vanish and then what are you going to do smartarse? I have seen FCC trucks moving about in neighborhoods chasing down signals from people who run overpowered radios. Now if they can do this, what makes you think that they cannot do the same thing and sniff out hot spots and shut them down? And I will bet that Europe will not be far behind on this.

    Gee really SUCKS to be British today now don’t it?

  55. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:14

    @ DUNNY IS KING

    Yay someone who understands ffs.

  56. chris
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:17

    if virgin is against music downloads, why do they offer binary news on there newsgroups? as well as offering speeds of 20mb and soon to be 40mb? its just gona encourage more and more downloading of pirate material, because that new film thats out in the cinema, is a 10min download away!!

  57. sleazy joe
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:19

    Stuff like this makes me glad I’m moving out of the UK later this year, seems like England is politically and economically heading in a bad direction at the moment. I think the current UK government is overall just as bad as the Bush administration, maybe even worse.

  58. zarathustra
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:19

    Somebody kill that bloody Baroness Vadera beyatch…

  59. VoV
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:22

    Estimated “LOSS” of One Billion Pounds??!!!

    Hello?! You never had the money in the first place, it’s not like if we couldn’t download the movies and songs we’d actually spend our cash on your crap!!

    Let me list what I’ve downloaded recently:
    Speed Racer (R5)
    The Dark Knight (TS)
    Meet Dave (R5)
    And a bunch of TV Shows …

    Ok, so I don’t specifically pay for the TV Shows, I pay for Cable, and some are Cable Shows, so I already paid for those whether I download them or not. I did see The Dark Knight in theaters and I’ll probably buy the DVD when it comes out …

    But Meet Dave & Speed Racer … I wouldn’t have even RENTED the DVDs when they came out!! There’s very little loss!

    I download maybe (BIG MAYBE) ONE song a month on average, and most of my music is from CD’s I used to own that I ripped to MP3, backed up, and then sold the CD’s! I haven’t bought a CD since 1997!!!

    I know I’m not the only one like this! Something like 20% of the Music Industry’s income comes from Advertising placement, and another 35% from TV & Movie scores … that’s more than HALF the industry’s income.

    If they really want to make more money, start making better music!!

  60. O71G
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:23

    @Hmm
    I do sort of agree with what your saying but don’t forget this is not the BPI that will be logging this. I understood this was going to be down to the ISP. They DO and I know this for a fact have the ability to trace ghost modems on the networks. This is not as simple as sitting in the office and running a trace but it can be done.
    Example:

    Your live in a area without local business centre’s etc and start downloading at unlimited speeds (which again is very very simple to do with cable) they will start to notice and start a hard trace.

    If you don’t take the p!ss then you’ll be ok. If the ISP’s do all follow suit around the world, the internet will become one giant net nanny clone!!!

    I saw this coming a mile off, this has been long planned and I really don’t think this has anything to do with copyright infringment. This is just another step towards complete controll.

    I think the time to make our voices heard is now people.

    Blast BBC with as many neg comments on this and how we are loosing our rights to privacy.

    **Rant over!!

    O71G

  61. Monoxide
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:25

    Ok i know i’ll probably sound like a NOOB as some of you like to put it lol! but could someone please be kind enough and try help me understand this a little better!when they say they are clamping down on this stuff is it just for say for example Limewire , kazza , edonkey, torrents and p2p stuff like that! As i have a premium account on rapidshare i’ve always thought thats a bit dodgy as you have to give ya bank details to pay for that lol so could some one please help me out and lay it down for me am i still gonna get my butt kicked by the goverment for downloading from rapidshare lol

  62. mickey d
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:26

    Dont you just feel sorry for the music industry losing out on all this money

  63. sleazy joe
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:27

    Also, Baroness Vadera sounds like the name of some evil Nazi scientist from an Ilsa movie. This is the 21st century and baronesses still oppress the masses? WTF? How can people even consider themselves free when their country still has goddamn barons and baronesses? So much for democracy. I hope some day the people pull a Russian Revolution on their royal hinds…

  64. common sense
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:27

    @57 Joe do you think it is going to get better in whatever country you move to? If they do it in England, what makes you think they cannot go to the EU and demand they do it all over the EU members? And with the anti pirate groups popping up in Europe and South East Asia/Australia, dont think for one second that they cannot get you there either.

    As I stated earlier, all you “they cant find me” script kiddies who think you are hackers are going to get a very rude wake up call as they will catch you sooner or later (if they can get heads and memberships in cracking groups and they are really hard to get, you wont even be a speed bump) so all of you that believe that you are safe and cant be touched; just remember that when they come knocking on your doors.

  65. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:28

    rapidshare, kazza, limewire they know what you got so….

  66. zarathustra
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:31

    “[...]business minister Baroness Vadera ‘is not a fit and proper person for job’”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-510487/Tories-say-new-business-minister-Baroness-Vadera-fit-proper-person-job.html

  67. lol
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:34

    @14 - no digg/alt news?? 3 articles down on that site u have the ‘google launches knol’ article - everything on that site copys this one.. wanna talk about copy/paste!! fake ass rlslog clone.. and wtf, rlslog credits the article at the end, “Source: Times, BBC” lol

  68. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:34

    @ VoV, O71G Well said!

  69. mrborat
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:38

    ive poo in my pants,what happens if you have a chipped broadband box ,will mr richard branson come n get me oh so hot so spicey ,hottt hottttt
    what else is fun to do on the internet besides downloading popular music n movie films,i know who wants 2 play me at pool on msn………………………….not

  70. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:40

    LMAO @ 69

  71. Adda
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:42

    Poor Brits!

  72. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:44

    #69 sounds like my local shopkeeper lol ;)

  73. bokka
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:48

    doe sit include aol i think in uk they have moved to carphoen warehouse connection plz i luv my downloads :(

  74. GazmoX
    July 25th, 2008 | 02:54

    I think I’ll give Relakks ago (www.relakks.com). Can’t hide the volume of downloads, but at least my ISP will have no idea of what I’m downloading.

    “Relakks provides services to help individuals to assure the security and integrity of their information. Relakks’ responsibility stems from the strong Swedish tradition of protecting the integrity of private life and all forms of communication between individuals.”

  75. StOoPiD
    July 25th, 2008 | 03:00

    LOL @ 74

  76. Dairy Queen
    July 25th, 2008 | 03:11

    LOUD NOISES

  77. Jasper
    July 25th, 2008 | 03:12

    Good thing America has capitalism here, and companies worry more about their profits than about stopping piracy.

    American ISP’s won’t voluntarily give up their paying customers just to help another industry.

  78. code-6
    July 25th, 2008 | 03:13

    code-6.org for all your S/KVCD’s

  79. Lorne
    July 25th, 2008 | 03:23

    Thank You GazmoX for the information about Relakks.

  80. dragus
    July 25th, 2008 | 03:26

    whatever happens hit them in the pocket book stop buying there music and movies even after they inforce this show them they can’t bully us around anylonger!!!

  81. mfc
    July 25th, 2008 | 03:32
  82. igl
    July 25th, 2008 | 03:36

    okay.. so we start encrypting our stuff now :> uk is lol anyhow. Kick em’ out of the EU and let them be the 51st state.

  83. mfc
    July 25th, 2008 | 03:38

    Wanted.[2008.Eng].Telesync.DivX-LTT.avi
    ***************************************
    > FiLE.INFO
    >
    > TiTLE……[ Wanted
    > YEAR…….[ 2008
    > GENRE……[ Action | Drama | Thriller
    > RUNTiME….[ 1:42:02
    > iMDB RATE..[ User Rating: 7.4/10 (27,440 votes)
    > iMDB URL…[ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0493464/

    > AUDiO……[ MP3 CBR 128 kb/s 48000Hz J-Stereo
    > LANGUAGE…[ ENGLISH
    > SUBS…….[ NONE
    > ViDEO……[ 821 kbps DivX 25.000 Fps
    > RESOLUTiON.[ 624 x 240
    > DAR……..[ 2.600 (13:5)
    > FiLES……[ 1 for 1 CD
    > SiZE…….[ 699 MB (716,656 KB / 733,855,744 bytes)

  84. alternate
    July 25th, 2008 | 03:38

    when the isp’s income drops because of migration to other isp’s or just dropping accounts altogether, they’ll be rethinking their actions. most isp plans are too big for “normal” internet use, I don’t anyone that would use 80gigs of email a month.

  85. Rap
    July 25th, 2008 | 03:41

    Now offering 1 million dollars to report piracy….

    http://www.siia.net/piracy/report.asp?gclid=CPDql6GB2pQCFQKfnAodi304qg

    If u want your internet freedom then report RSLOG to the authority and put martin in prison…He is stealing Music/Movie monies…The day has come now you can get some of his money in your pocket…

  86. Jim Belushi
    July 25th, 2008 | 03:42

    What i do not get is if everybody is effen stealing from the internet then “why is there an effen internet” in the first place?

    Internet was all about communication, now if all the free world is gonna be monitored and metered on usage then what is the point as i said.

    People will lose their freedom and stuff…at least in canada some government people investigated bandwith throttling from the companies and are actually trying to do somethign about it.

    Now it seems that companies are dictating to ISP what to do and the isp just turn around and just obey like yellow belly bastard in fear of getting sued…so who pays for greedy people..the ordinary bloke…

    adn to top it off what do you put your stuff on when you wanna save it? Cd’s and DVD’s which sony is selling by the gazillion by now probably, but they won’t tell you that they makes tons of money on blank media but they will complain if somebody steal their movie which you would have paid 10$ for anyway…what a bunch of hypocrites…

    i just say put a decent copyright tax on blank media to everyone and let the pirating happen…share the copyright tax with the companies and tell them to go f themselves off..at least then they got some money instead of nothing…

    peace and justice!!

  87. craig
    July 25th, 2008 | 03:57

    first jim belushi-canada has never investigated any pirating or downloading practices, we have human rights protecting us and thats what brits are gonna realize-that monitoring internet usage is a violation of privacy and human rights laws-p2p is not illegal which is what most sites practice under, private download sites r usually heavily encrypted and pretty much untraceable as they operate overseas where local government can’t control-only if the site is within their country can they penalize for it-trust me this will never fly and noone will be punished for what has already happened for years, slowing ip will do nothing-there r many programs out there to hide your ip and if u download alot u already know this, good luck britain ur downloads r safe!

  88. Gizmosis
    July 25th, 2008 | 04:00

    I wonder… if they monitor my broadband connection to such an extent that they can tell where i’m surfing isn’t that the same as tapping my phone line?? And if there gonna tap my phone they need a warrant …so to monitor my broadband do they need to obtain a warrant from a judge?? Gonna be a lot of paperwork.. Also do we not have any privacy in the Uk or are we now a political police state with our head stuck up the arze of every E.E.C. minister?? Europe says jump and we ask how high. !!

  89. bokka
    July 25th, 2008 | 04:08

    AOL IN UK USES CARPHONE WAREHOUSE CONNECTION RIGHT? BUT WILL I STILL BE ABLE TO DL WITH AOL PLZ HELP SUM1

  90. Crinan
    July 25th, 2008 | 04:08

    Who cares i use virgin for ma internet fone and telly if they wanna screw me im sure i can screw them back the reason thev been reluctant to do it in the past is coz they know they’ll lose money.So go ahead im sure theres a way around it.

  91. bokka
    July 25th, 2008 | 04:20

    aol are the biggest money munchers out their

  92. Cyberhash
    July 25th, 2008 | 04:31

    There’s none of it illegal. Your isp can monitor anything when they feel like it sadly.

    Oh and each tap in the street that your modem is connected to is addressable, just to clear that up :)

  93. Jasper
    July 25th, 2008 | 04:37

    People in the UK were saying for years that this whole European Union thing was a bad idea. Now look what is happening.

    England, pull out of the EU while you still have a chance!

  94. Freak
    July 25th, 2008 | 04:40

    Electronic Arts Record Profits, Activision Record Profits, Vivendi, (Music and Games) record profits, Apple Ipods and Itunes, record profits, Console sales up 54% in 12months, record profits…. Batman and Ironman smashed box office records…..

    If piracy is the number ONE cause of profits declining for the music/movie and game industries. Than why aren’t they declining? And surely we the pirates should be applauded for how piracy has brought them all record profits today?

    The good news is if you destroy piracy, you destroy record profits…. Prove me wrong!

  95. davey
    July 25th, 2008 | 04:46

    this is messed up man will peergardin stop this?

  96. b
    July 25th, 2008 | 04:52

    its good to be in germany
    as supreme court has ruled traffic monitoring to be unlawful starting this year ISP are not allow to monitor net traffic
    so it wont happen here (Hopefully)

  97. j
    July 25th, 2008 | 05:30

    StOoPiD

    your caught LOSER

  98. Anthony
    July 25th, 2008 | 05:31

    So how much more will it take for people to organize and stand up by using their votes to send a message no politician will ever forget? Vote the entire current ruling party of your country out of office at the next election. Make it clear in the media and on the internet why it’s being done. That and only that will make the public’s stance on this issue clear.

    War, poverty and freedom of speech aren’t the issues at hand in our times. It’s our very freedom that’s at stake once again. As with the past only a total revolution will effect change. The real terrorists are in political office, running our countries and our lives. Stand up now, or leave a future for generations to come that will make the Orwellian world of 1984 looking like a paradise.

  99. QuadrupelQ
    July 25th, 2008 | 05:43

    Welcome to Nazi Britain, where big corporations decide what you can do on the internet.

    Of course, it will never work. And they all know that. They (government and bussiness) have to spank each others monkey to keep each other happy, but none of them really enjoy it.

    F**k it, let’s see what I can download today…

  100. sober
    July 25th, 2008 | 05:44

    @ 94 Freak, I’ve thought the same thing.

    @ 95 davey, only if you block the whole net.

    And I still say, for every download, there’s a potential customer.

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