Comments (104)

1. TX
   October 18th, 2007 | 18:20

   are there any practical reasons why i would install this?
   even as dual boot

2. Nuke13
   October 18th, 2007 | 18:22

   Yeh there is, it’s great to use, there is no virus on Linux (or very few) and it’s fun to play around with.

3. zoink
   October 18th, 2007 | 18:25

   http://ubuntu.gds.tuwien.ac.at/cdimage/releases/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent

   1938 seeds, 4389 peers at 10:10am

   Or the one off the main site:

   http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent

4. Antje14
   October 18th, 2007 | 18:26

   already got it : ) and pre-ordered 2 on CD

5. bvd
   October 18th, 2007 | 18:28

   Thanks ! I’ll give it a try

6. wickido
   October 18th, 2007 | 18:36

   I had Ubuntu installed before, but it was lots a hassle of getting it dualboot and to install drivers to get my WLan working… so, I kept true to XP (Pimped Out of course). Is there any improvement on this release, or is the original Linux better? Cause Im pretty openminded towards new OS tryouts

7. Wankstar
   October 18th, 2007 | 18:45

   I might try it out. How to make it dual boot? Just throw it in on boot, install it, and it’ll ask if i want to dual boot?

   Currently running vista - no flame war please - runs “okay”, few problems with stability on programs, but nothing big.

   My system:
   P4 6000+ dual core
   4gb ram
   8800GTX “XXX” Gforce.

8. thatsMAD
   October 18th, 2007 | 18:51

   This version is fantastic, it has automatically detected my 3Com USB stick, which previous version did not do! It is SO fast, smooth, slick and neat. The only reason I didn’t leave XP for Ubuntu last time was because of my usb wireless stick, but this time I will try to make the big step to Ubuntu/linux… I don’t play computer games anymore so there is no need for XP for me.

9. g0nz0
   October 18th, 2007 | 18:52

   I installed it and i love it

10. trudodyr
    October 18th, 2007 | 18:54

    >is the original Linux better?

    >P4 6000+ dual core

    …

11. linux is god
    October 18th, 2007 | 18:54

    i love linux but ubunto wouldnt reconize my wireless card =[

12. XP for Me
    October 18th, 2007 | 18:56

    Ive always fancied giving one of these Iso’s a shot. But the reason I think people find them so slick, fast and the rest is that there is feck all to them and you dont play games or anything with it. So its bound to feel good isnt it ?

13. liquitt
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:00

    can we get english writers again…please?

14. gav616
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:03

    been dev testing gutsy repo.. things are good.

    i used gutsy command line install, then slapped fluxbox on.

    ultimate barebone system.

15. Tom
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:03

    I tried this and found it to be a major bummer! Once installed on my pent lV laptop which is set up with a linsky’s wireless-G notebook adapter, ubuntu wouldn’t recognize it for internet connection.

    Ubuntu forums was no help saying downloading certain plug-in would work but no avail.

    Found on those forums that the internet connectivity is a huge issue.

    Now the best part: When I tried to reinstall win 98 (restoration 3 disk set that came with my laptop) ubuntu left a nasty item behind called grub, which wouldn’t let me boot to win 98 after the install.

    If you don’t plan on using your computer on the net, ubuntu is great, but updates and downloading linux apps are out.

    Otherwise, run away from this, if you’re a non-techie like me.

    Tom

16. gav616
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:08

    @ #15 Tom

    most wireless drivers arn’t opensource soo you need the restriced kernel patch;

    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get linux-restricted-modules

17. Pointless
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:09

    Apart from being relatively virus free… This has nothing else to offer. Most people who have this installed, just want something that simply isn’t what everyone else has.

    As i said about Vista, “Ill stick with xp”

18. gav616
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:11

    linux can be anything u want it to be, nothing more, nothing less.

19. Alan
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:14

    Is a kernel-update also possible? Don’t want to install the whole linux, have already feisty installed…

20. Tom
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:15

    Thanks Gav, I tried everything that had been posted on the forums, nothing worked.

    I finally obtained a copy of xp sp2 and got in installed and the nasty grub went away.

    I really would like to learn more about linux ( I have a newish iMac intel machine) but won’t go near ubuntu again.

    Tom

21. gav616
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:17

    if u want ubuntu with loads of apps install this, but if you just want a maintained repo, amazing speeds, low memory uage (fully loaded gui from boot usage is 32mb) install the command line, then build your own system to work however you need.

22. gav616
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:18

    @ Alan

    if your on gnome Window manager

    http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading

23. gav616
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:20

    or for kernel upgrade only i.e. keeping feisty but just getting the latest gutsy maintained kernel

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511974

24. Tom
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:23

    Thanks guys, too technical for me….

25. tech
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:25

    Linux on training wheels. I don’t like it but hey noobs gotta start somewhere right

26. Reginald Dwight
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:27

    So will most of the games posted here on rlslog work with this, or will I still need to install Windows XP?

27. gav616
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:32

    @ 26

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WINE

28. complex
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:33

    @ #7 Wankstar:

    wtf is a P4 6000+ dual core?

29. tech
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:36

    this crap dont download it sh!t mother f0cker

30. Steve Balmer
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:37

    @26 & @27

    That is a definite no. Until game developers start creating Linux versions of their games, Windows will be a necessity for playing them. Just another reason not to even bother with Linux. Thanks for your time. And your money.

31. yoblin
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:37

    @ 15

    windows *98*?????!!!!

    wow man..

32. Leroy Mountbatten
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:38

    I think it’s great. It’s on my fastest PC. AMD Duron 900, 512MB SDram PC133 8MB onboard gfx. Very happy with it. Recognised all components on old Shuttle brand mobo. Work’s a treat. May your God go with you.

33. kikori
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:48

    I prefer Fedora or OpenSuse.
    Anyway if you want freedom a private life and fun, go for Linux !

34. Slanty Eyed Jap
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:49

    @Leroy Mountbatten

    So this type of O/S is only necessary for people using much older components in their PC?

35. paul
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:51

    as much as i’ve always wanted to switch to linux, its a waste of time. really it is. its for people who go on about how much ram they have or how cool their watercooling setup is or whatever, its not that great at all.

36. Nora
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:54

    @paul

    thats nothing. you should see the phat looking fans i have inside my PC. two of them even have colored LED’s (light emitting diodes) built into the fan blades that look so cool!

    of course, i can’t see them under my desk, but knowing they are there just gives me a lot of joy.

37. roofy
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:56

    lol i find it funny people that can complain about an operating system that has less flaws than Xp. Many of you are too lazy to learn a new operating system or have never tried anything else besides Windows. I cant blame you because windows was pushed down many of our throats but you can try this. Sure, there is a learning curve but that is made up for by not worrying about viruses and system crashes. I would definitely recommend this OS to everyone.

    I am also very shocked that some of you are having driver support because most drivers also come with a linux version.

38. roofy
    October 18th, 2007 | 19:59

    if anyone is brave enough to try linux then definitely get Beryl once you understand how to install apps.

    Makes your desktop look like nothing else you have ever seen

39. Steve Balmer
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:03

    @roofy

    It has nothing to do with laziness, or an unwillingness to learn a new O/S, but there has to be some kind of return for investing the time to learn it. With Linux, not only is there no return, there is actually a shortcoming of applications that can be used with that O/S.

40. Tom
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:15

    Lazy??
    Where does one go to learn a new OS? I’ve got books, and the desire. The OS was OK except for the ability to do internet, without any easy methods of fixing that problem.

    In my search to make it work, I found a page which showed which wireless adapters would work, which wouldn’t, and which might. The chipset or whatever they call it was a maybe on the list, but in reality a not.

    I’ve been doing windoze since 3.2 and admit to being accustomed to doing it the easy way, but as far as being lazy, I wonder.

    And again, where does one go to learn a new OS? All of the tutorials and books I’ve seen are of a language that implies that you are anything but a beginner at linux,unix etc.

41. holobyted
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:17

    @ 38/roofy

    AFAIK, Gutsy Gibbon already installs Compiz for you if it detects a decent video card.

    *poof*

42. SoniKalien
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:17

    Just a note - you can boot from the DVD and either choose to install or just run. If you just run, you can play with Ubuntu without it doing anything to your hard drive.

43. XP for Me
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:19

    That about sums it up. You will struggle forever to get it working. And then you will wonder what all the fuss was about and go back to XP.

    Its like a nice version of Windowsblinds, does fOOk all, but looks nice.

44. JizzOnMyFace
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:20

    @Tom

    Have you tried Linux for Dummies?

    http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Dummies-7th-Dee-Ann-LeBlanc/dp/0471752827

45. Tom
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:22

    Got it for my mac, and use it. It was the ubuntu that gave me the probs

46. Alain
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:24

    Does the upgrade work at someones machine? Mine is hanging itself up all the time I cklick on upgrade. All updates have been made before.

47. Alain
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:27

    It just started…

48. TREVOR KEN
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:28

    @28……

    He thinks his AMD 6000+, since its a 3.0 ghz, its a Pentium 4. But the noob doesnt know that a AMD processor isent a Intel pentium 4…just because its over 2.0 ghz, doesnt means its a Pentium 4, thats just a name brand,…

    Thats my laugh for the day!!! haha

49. Christian
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:35

    not again this flame wars… XP vs Ubuntu.. omg…

50. Antje14
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:41

    @ Christian
    u should close the comments on this one

51. gav616
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:42

    each to there own, if you have the time to invest, and want to learn new things, and the core of how your system works linux is it, if your happy with windows keep with it.

    btw ubuntu is not an OS its a Linux distribution based on debian build on unix. Linux itself is just kernel that can fit on a floppy disk.

52. beware
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:46

    linux is usually cover in specialized forum,might look easy at first glance
    but the majority of people looking for software at rlslog are looking for a
    one click solution…not the typical linux user

    i dont think people really know what they are trying with a dual-boot
    system,most of the times things will get wrong and you need to know
    a minimun to save yourself

    just explain to them how to change the wallpaper in ubuntu,then how
    to make sure they partition the good section ect ect….

    dont think rslog is a linux dedicated site

53. wickido
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:56

    Why dont we just wait for Windows Vienna… its build from scratch to compete with the Linux system. Because its build as new instead of bloating XP -> Vista it will be much more stable and faster. We just got to wait it out ya know. Oh, and it wont be compatible with any other previous ware… so we might be better off with a free Linux (Ubuntu, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva) after all… hurm. Anyways, I guess I need to re-organise my laptop pretty soon anyways, so I might as well give uBuntu another try ey

54. BadpunK
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:56

    it’s great to see ubuntu being that popular, but i’m not got to switch. i still like fedora..

55. Tom
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:56

    My install was not a dual boot, I did a full install. The lap is a 40 gig hd with 512 ram. Figured a dual boot would slow the resources. Was this an error on my parc concerning connectivity?

56. Tom
    October 18th, 2007 | 20:59

    Would fedora work for me, in the connectivity department? Assuming I did a dual boot install?

57. MishuMMx
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:00

    Hello people!
    Nice to see on this site some linux news. Perhaps in the near future some variants of thouse cracked aplication are going to be for linux also (yes i will keep dreaming)

58. jvb
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:01

    “Is there any improvement on this release, or is the original Linux better? Cause Im pretty openminded towards new OS tryouts ;”
    Original Debian is indeed still a lot better:
    http://www.debian.org/

    I don’t mind the *buntus and their fancy graphical user stuff, but it’s really not my thing.

    Being just one of the many Debian clones, they should really show more respect for the real Debian crew though… (they don’t even mention Debian on their main page).

59. MishuMMx
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:03

    mandriva user
    works very well, i use win only for games now

60. UncertainGod
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:04

    Been rolling on Gusty since the BETA went live, had a coup[e of wierd issues with my USB ports, then everything sorted itself out. Compiz fusion &beryl make the desktop look stunning, now I’m just waiting for UT3 to hit the shelves.

61. beware
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:10

    linux is open source-dont expect /f thouse cracked aplication are going to be for linux also/

    open source–code available anyone can make changes
    this is why there are so many distribution available,one for this and that

    this is why mp3 is not supported,not open source unless you buy a register version

62. wickido
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:15

    Thnx for the comment jvb, when I think of Debian, immediately I somehow must think of mobile phone operating systems… lol, it bet it is not just that. About Buntu… yer, its kind of hyped up too much isnt it. “Oeh.. theyve got Ubuntu… I guess I must get it as well”. Oh well, Ill just check things thoroughly before commencing further moves

63. Wankstar
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:18

    Was ment to write Intel Core 2 Duo

64. jvb
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:19

    “this is why mp3 is not supported,not open source unless you buy a register version”
    MP3 is supported in most distros (including Debian) from the box and those encoders obviously are Free/Open Software. Best example is Lame(GPL’d):
    http://lame.sourceforge.net/index.php

65. noddyx
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:23

    I prefer mandriva linux. You could post here a link to mandriva linux powerpack, since it is “warez” .

66. Normal Computer User
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:46

    @ #51 gav616

    “btw ubuntu is not an OS its a Linux distribution based on debian build on unix. ”

    No everyday computer user even knows what this sentence means. Nor do they want to know the differences between ‘distributions’ and ‘builds’.

    With Macs and Windows, its simply “what version do you use?”
    and it works.

67. Slanty Eyed Jap
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:47

    @beware

    are you saying that linux can not play mp3’s? then i would definitely steer clear of this.

68. paul
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:48

    check this out - http://withadollar.com

69. beware
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:52

    taken from ubuntu site see below

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3

    You have two options for dealing with your MP3’s under Ubuntu……

70. beware
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:55

    @66
    a mac os10xx is a unix kde os….surprising…but not open sources

    linux is based on unix,

71. Ikarus II
    October 18th, 2007 | 21:55

    I want LEOPARD. Wonder if that hits the scene, will RLDLOG care about? My bet is on NOT.

72. Christian
    October 18th, 2007 | 22:03

    @ 71. well, you’re wrong…

73. hansdegebruiker
    October 18th, 2007 | 22:07

    I’m working overtime next weekend for the production of the cd-roms

74. hansdegebruiker
    October 18th, 2007 | 22:08

    Made in holland

75. Angry Dutchman
    October 18th, 2007 | 22:13

    @ #74 hansdegebruiker

    The only thing that comes out of Holland that is worth a damn is Heineken.

76. wickido
    October 18th, 2007 | 22:14

    Im from holland, where teh vcuk you from. Catchy tune Nite nite

77. beware
    October 18th, 2007 | 22:15

    @hansdegebruiker

    are you the same hansdegebruiker
    or a copy–yur name is in every possible dutch forum

    http://www.flickr.com/people/11854706@N06/

78. beware
    October 18th, 2007 | 22:17

    @75 holland is a province in the netherland
    and every province brew differnt local brand

79. BadpunK
    October 18th, 2007 | 22:20

    it’s confirmed by apple that leopard will be released 26th of this month.

80. idomagic
    October 18th, 2007 | 22:44

    I think one of the main problems people have with linux is the double edged sword of (near) absolute control of every single hardware component and what drivers should be using it.

    Personally I’m loving it, although sure at times it *can* be frustrating, the possibilities far outweighs the moments of frustration.

    I began with running linux on my server, after a while I also switched to it on my htpc, and in the end I couldn’t resist running it on my main/gaming machine, although I do have dualboot for the purpose of occasional gaming.

81. Mike
    October 18th, 2007 | 23:44

    im a win xp sp2 user but i really like using ubuntu… its so cool and the live cd future is awesome!

    ill down

82. pitu
    October 19th, 2007 | 00:15

    ubuntu over microshoft bista.

83. BiG-ArFI
    October 19th, 2007 | 01:22

    Linux was such a hugeeee waste of my time, I remember when i downloaded fedora, ubuntu and opensuse. It looked great on the Internet pictures, but when working with them, man did it waste my time. Learning how to install software took a while and still to this day I got no clue. Linux can’t run games and no freedom of being able to try new programs, because of Microsoft ruling the PC market. I would like to try os x, but those f0ckers want me to buy a system of theirs instaed of me being able to build my ownwith my chosen specs. Anyway, I use Vista and I love it, I like the look of Ubuntu also but not wasting my time using it. Well gotta poop really hard, red stuff comes out my butt!

84. BillGatez
    October 19th, 2007 | 03:47

    Hmm… So this is what they think! HeHe!

85. Mr. X
    October 19th, 2007 | 04:19

    nice post christian !

86. Qwerty
    October 19th, 2007 | 04:27

    Nice, but… as engineer (mechanical) does not giving me compatibility with applications which I use at work. For example I need autodesk Autocad and Inventor, MS Office, and some other specialized applications for planning and purchasing purposes which only work on Windows XP. It is very hard to be part of Linux World if your daily job depend on Windows applications and as a worker I’m not able to use Linux. I do have it installed at home on one old laptop but have no use of Linux and that’s the biggest issue for many users. So, I guess first companies, corporations, government will need to switch to Linux, so then all of us can do it because they will ask from us to learn it. Until then Linux will be just a hobby, unfortunately.

87. snobs and b**ches
    October 19th, 2007 | 04:46

    I’m an XP user to the bone.
    Last release I thought I’d give ubuntu a try on one of my spare pc’s. I asked a few ?’s and got shafted by “advanced” Linux users and was called a noob.
    I also noticed other beginners being shunned for asking ?’s. Now I have this persona that all ubuntu users are snobs and b**ches. If you all are trying to push this thing above microsoft how about helping the noobs and encouraging growth. Try to help your community grow and drop your “holier than thou” frame of mind.

88. obake
    October 19th, 2007 | 05:08

    @ Qwerty

    Well there are free cad programs
    http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html

    and then there is openoffice which pretty much can replace MSoffice already in winXP OS also.

    So there are plenty of programs that are similar to the once in win os just need to find them.

    Here is the kde desktop ubuntu if someone wants
    http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/release/dvd/kubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent

89. 08/15
    October 19th, 2007 | 06:41

    also have ubuntu installed as dual boot. but i never use it. it takes too much time to get everything working. have problems with the display, open office fonts really look bad, i get a headache.
    if only adobe appz were available for linux. then it would be worth the effort.

90. Spazzie
    October 19th, 2007 | 08:24

    Try install on my Dell GX320 and I get:
    54.490420 PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0000:00:14;0

    Damn it!

91. hikaricore
    October 19th, 2007 | 09:54

    @87 You obviously weren’t on the ubuntu forums during your bashing… we don’t really condone or tolerate that sort of thing on our forums.. more likely you asked about a topic that was not welcome on the forum such as piracy, in which case you were infracted/removed.

92. Yotian
    October 19th, 2007 | 10:09

    @qwerty

    I am also using CAD (in school) using autoCAD as ADT and autoCAD fin, MagiCAD and CADS. i find it amusing you cant get CAD working on linux, took me roughly 20 seconds to get it working after installation and on top of that, nothing special tricks were needed. and yes this was done for Ubuntu. Also open office suffices more than enough to replace the crappy MS office apps. i still have XP on my home PC and i like it to be on my home PC for gaming, but when it comes to working. Linux is the way to go.

    And for those who keep ranting about windows beeing ruling the market, yes its ruling the market on home PC’s but the fact is. most of the companies/factories/shops etc. etc. use Linux distros instead of windows OS’s. Why? 2 simple reasons. they are as easy to use and they require less computing power to maintain the OS stable leaving more free for the tasks needed to do the actual work, plus they cost less. here are few examples of the parties who use linux: Volvo, Peugeot, Swiss Air, Verkkokauppa.com(store/net store and cash registry) Valmet/Valtra, Sony BGM, and plenty of others. also some statistics: over 60% of companies worldwide use windows based programs in offices/cubicles and linux in the task processing such as production lines etc. out of that 60% nearly half report moving over to linux based desktops in offices during the next 5 years. out of the remaining 40% who rely on solely windows about a quarter reports moving to using linux besides windows in the same manner as the previous group for monetary reasons/efficiency reasons in the next 10 years. so yes windows rules now, but the fact is linux is taking over due to its compatibility and adaptivity and stability and efficiency and thats COLD HARD STATISTICS!

93. lajika
    October 19th, 2007 | 12:23

    this is it! Ubuntu is the king of the jungle! windows is a little craving monkey…

94. hansdegebruiker
    October 19th, 2007 | 16:07

    beware I’m the one

95. hansdegebruiker
    October 19th, 2007 | 16:08

    yes
    beware I’m the one

96. hansdegebruiker
    October 19th, 2007 | 18:44

    beware I’m the second

97. bubble
    October 20th, 2007 | 13:37

    “they don’t even mention Debian on their main page” And not even in their FAQ!!!

98. @ction_man
    October 21st, 2007 | 02:08

    if your having so much difficulty reading and installing programs in Ubuntu, this might be the way to go for you.elmost every program under the sun is preloaded on dvd, about 2 gig, you can install it to hdd and off you go. it is 2 gig compressed and about 8 gig expanded.

    http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/

99. Orville Ketchum
    October 22nd, 2007 | 05:39

    Ubuntu is reasonable, and does look pretty nice, but as with other nix`s the learning curve is pretty steep.

    ..works well on my ps3 though and means i can play all the filetypes on it that i ant to that sony havent implemented yet, BUT as other folk have mentioned it does suffer from a lack of software for specialised uses, as a music producer i find vst aps and the like severley hard to get hold of..

    ..other than that for use on servers and other similar uses, workstations, etc it does the job admirably.

100. indianpunk
     October 22nd, 2007 | 17:08

     i have Xp Pro sp2 and Vista Ultimate in Dual boot can i still use ubuntu as a third choice os ???

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