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Turkey banned access to YouTube again

Posted on 21.01.2008 at 18:08 in Tech News by Martin

A Turkish court has again blocked access to the popular video-sharing Web site YouTube, and reports Sunday suggested the ban was a response to clips that allegedly insult Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the country’s founding father. Users trying to access the site from Turkey were met with notices in English and Turkish saying access to the Web site was banned under an Ankara court’s order. The notices said the court order was issued Jan. 17. In March, another court blocked access to YouTube, which is owned by California-based Google Inc., for two days after a complaint that some clips insulted Ataturk, a war hero who founded Turkey from the ruins of the Ottoman Empire. The ban was lifted after YouTube removed the offending videos.

Vatan newspaper said Sunday the current ban was also imposed because of videos that were allegedly disrespectful of Ataturk. It is illegal in Turkey to insult Ataturk, a revered figure whose portrait still hangs in nearly all government offices almost 70 years since his death in 1938. It was not clear how long the current ban would last. The state-run Anatolia said YouTube officials issued a statement saying the company hoped access would be re-established quickly.The YouTube bans in Turkey have highlight the country’s troubled record on free expression. Several prominent Turkish journalists and writers — including Nobel literature prize winner Orhan Pamuk — have been tried for allegedly insulting “Turkishness.” And this country wants to join the European Union…

Source: Fox 

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  1. cagorx
    January 21st, 2008 | 22:13

    If you do not have information, you can not have a idea..

    If you want to talk about Atatürk,Turkey.. go and read a few books, or came here.. And say all of this to a Turk. Dont afread we are not barbar like you..

    I m a Turk and this is a honor for me.

    P.S Maybe you will see the real barbarians a day.. (try look at the mirror)

  2. Yusuf
    January 21st, 2008 | 22:14

    Current conservative politicians in Turkey make things worse and worse everyday. It is one of the dumbest actions they have taken lately. Conservatives do not consist the majority of the country but they sure make a lot of noise to look so and unfortunately no one dares to stand against them. Because of all this they take the usual conservative action: Do not try to solve, do not try to answer, just BAN! Idiot politicians giving chance to other idiots who will try to make fun of Turkey even without knowing a single thing about the country, that’s what’s happening.

  3. cyan
    January 21st, 2008 | 22:15

    @102. what history? the real one or the one that you learned?
    @99. its nothing like that! The only truth is in Voltair’s words, “I do not agree with what you said, but will defend to the death your right to say it!” . FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Unknown words to you?

  4. Interested
    January 21st, 2008 | 22:21

    Anyone have the post to that video? very interested in seeing why turkey would ban youtube, unless the video has been removed already. =D

  5. wizardofeast
    January 21st, 2008 | 22:23

    Do not believe what u read,
    Do not believe what u hear,
    Even do not believe what u see.

    I have seen a war with my own eyes, none of us can imagine what had happened in Bosnia. So EU people just stop talking , in the very center of EU , a genocide has just happened.

    Watch “The Hunting Party” a new film about the war criminals of Bosnia.

    Alas we should all be ashamed , not because of past, the current.

    See the puppeteer , not the puppet.

  6. Dipdip
    January 21st, 2008 | 22:26

    @105

    I personally would like to hear the one you learned. It sounded more entertaining.

    Thanks for the cliché Voltaire quote.

  7. Fem
    January 21st, 2008 | 22:28

    Since this isn’t a torrent thread, I’ll permit myself an off-topic comment.

    I hope to God these people never join the EU.

    So long as they never acknowledge the first genocide of the 20th century, killing over 1 million Armenians, they don’t belong a place in the civilised world.

  8. Citizen
    January 21st, 2008 | 22:29

    Order!Order!Order!
    This is not a confession,blaming,cursing,swearing platform.I want you all to calm down and step out of the room then think what you have commented on this topic.Is this possible that one day Ku Klux Clan and Wu-Tang Clan would round up and live together in harmony?Lets hope until that day.Put your hands up for detroit…it is a lovely city…dıdıdıdıdıdıdı.dıdıdıdıd.dıdıdıdıdıd..dı.dı.dı.dıı..
    Class Dismiss..

  9. GeeS
    January 21st, 2008 | 22:38

    Criticize the wrong acts of censorship is a first step. Opinions like ..”you burn in hell” , “bomb them”, “invade them and force democracy”, “western killers”, “my religion is better” and fill all the blanks you want wont get any of us forward. I’m Greek and i’m biased against turkey governments and generals but i’m not against turkish plain people. Most of our ancestors (and sadly many times our present politicians) conquered, killed etc for what they thought to be a RIGHT reason. History is written from those that prevailed in a gory bloodshed battlefield.
    Everyone that raises his/her fist in the air yelling holy war, or jihad against other people are braindead. Religion must set your mind free , not corner it and amputate it.
    Live your life as a free man. Is shedding blood your catharsis to a better life full of angels, harps from one side to mountains of rice on the other?

    As for the turkish court … what can i say? it a foolish act that degrades human rights.

    As for my fellow country men, dont flame me with ethnocentrism comments. I served my country on the borders for 17 months and i’m proud for it (others aren’t). But I didnt post to pick a fight with the turks. Deep in their hearts, all “thinking” people can understand the implications made by censoring media. Worst part is when they put in jail all those that oppose their voice against the military/government system. Turkish government must make a great deal of progress in the department of human rights.

    Anyway thats my opinion. And Rlslog isnt the place to get carried away in politics. Any new game Rls???

    R.I.P. Scit.
    Peace.

  10. eggs4eva
    January 21st, 2008 | 22:38

    @100

    aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  11. bello
    January 21st, 2008 | 22:40

    That’s so stupid I don’t know if I shall laugh or cry. It’s because of people like that war exists. I’ve been to turkey and loved the country/people so I’m not saying turks in general are stupid, just the ones that came up with this. I wish Google Inc had the guts to ban all turkish IP’s from Google search engine, that would make me laugh for sure.

  12. l.y
    January 21st, 2008 | 22:43

    can the chicken @ the goose still go on youtube though
    or is this a ban on all poultry?

  13. ikea
    January 21st, 2008 | 22:50

    hey cyan watch out

    Italy, Greece, England and France occupied Turkey after the WWI
    We only defended our country
    You were colonialist
    Armenian guerillas killed our peasants. They are baby killers. They boiled up babies in boiler.
    They trespassed young ladies.
    what do you expect?

    Ataturk was not only a soldier, he was also a great leader and a politician
    he founded Turkish Pepublic which is democratic, secular and modern.
    the west did not be stabilze or democratize ıraq even though all your great so callled democratic knowledge…
    maybe it wasn’t your intention.
    You didn’t bring democracy to Iraq you only brought death

    don’t complaint for the humanity.you can teach us nothing about humanity or democracy.

  14. Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
    January 21st, 2008 | 23:00

    I have a better suggestion. Why don’t the court ban entire Turkey from the internet? Better be safe than sorry, I guess.

  15. ikea
    January 21st, 2008 | 23:11

    don’t worry dude, i think next lucky country can be turkey after iraq and ıran huh?
    when 600.000 people of died you can sleep with confidence.

  16. Christos
    January 21st, 2008 | 23:15

    Hello everyone,

    i think we should be a little objective here and not rush to criticize the Turks. I’m Greek and my grand-grandfather got beheaded by Turks in 1922 (under the command of Ataturk) BUT if you know a little history you will understand why Turks are so sensitive about him.
    He is their “father” – he made Turkey the (big but arrogant) country of today, without him they would have been a bunch of smaller states like the former Yugoslavia. It is logical that they have a law forbidding the insults against him – if they have a law they deserve a “bravo” for applying it.
    We could criticize the fact of the law itself, but if you do not descend from Turkey (i’ve been there 3 times – the photo of Ataturk and their flag are eveywhere, even in the coffeeshops) you are not able to understand the law as it is.
    And a last word about Turkey, some parts and some people of this country are more European than many parts and people of Europe, but that is an exception (unfortunately). And since it’s a very beautiful country (Greeks lived there for thousands of years and they knew better…) we should want by all means that they become a member of EU – then it will be easier to go and enjoy.

  17. k
    January 21st, 2008 | 23:18

    typical that the coward greeks, whining armenians and terrorist kurds joined this thread to air their racist views based on propaganda.

    rlsblog is starting to become a racist, fascist platform, nice one martin with your dubious reasons for putting up rubbish like this.

  18. k
    January 21st, 2008 | 23:21

    rlsblog bans people who say first or haIo yet people can say kill all turks and it is ok.

    nice one, hypocrites.

    and i thought off topic discussion was not wanted…. why get this fabricated armenian “genocide” in here then?

  19. revix
    January 21st, 2008 | 23:43

    olum adam olun ayagınızı denk alın
    yoksa neti kapatırız haaaaaaaaa

    mal gibi kalırsınız

  20. robz
    January 21st, 2008 | 23:48

    il wait for axxo release.

  21. bello
    January 21st, 2008 | 23:49

    $119 k: Oh please, there’s a huge differens between saying first/halo and kill all turks! You just can’t ban everything, must draw the line somewhere and first/halo should definitely result in a ban!

  22. Corsair
    January 22nd, 2008 | 00:09

    To k
    The subject is the censoring of youtube by Turkish authorities. You’ve chose instead to attack other countries, than talking about that ridiculous act.
    Before attacking another nation, please tell me if your country ever produced an Aristotle or an Aram Hatzaturian…
    Please enlighten me and tell me if Turkey ever contributed to CIVILIZATION and human evolution as most of the other nations did ?

  23. someone
    January 22nd, 2008 | 00:17

    It’s funny a lot of americans don’t realise that Turkey is a more seculalized country than the USA.

  24. Zzzzop
    January 22nd, 2008 | 00:29

    @123

    LOL, contributions to “human evolution”?

    I see you are giving yourself credit for the achievements of Aristotle.

  25. ikea
    January 22nd, 2008 | 00:30

    hmm an civilized european was spoked…
    ”
    hello i am the european hero i want to die all turks cause they not produced Aristotle or an Aram Hatzaturian.
    other nations apart from me absoletly useless.
    “

  26. Jaga
    January 22nd, 2008 | 01:02

    Simply pathetic. Maybe one day turks will be civilized pets.

  27. xtazy
    January 22nd, 2008 | 01:03

    stupid dum ass turks

  28. ikea
    January 22nd, 2008 | 01:07

    i am getting civilize step by step…
    please more curse gonna make it easy.

  29. Luckmann
    January 22nd, 2008 | 01:15

    Goddamn it I hate these towelheads. I pray to god that they never get entry to the European Union. Hell, they shouldn’t even be a part of the United Nations.

  30. carton
    January 22nd, 2008 | 01:16

    Oh they wont be able to see the otters holding hands!

  31. lucas
    January 22nd, 2008 | 01:22

    i can see some hacking groups now tryin to hack into turk sites lol

  32. robz
    January 22nd, 2008 | 01:33

    shut up
    The.Assassination.Of.Jesse.James.2007.LiMiTED.FS.DVDSCR.XviD-COCAIN

  33. thrashie
    January 22nd, 2008 | 01:36

    always funny to read the comments on topics you dont expect on rlslog ^^

  34. ikea
    January 22nd, 2008 | 01:38

    pray to god give you lot of brain neuron.

    turkey gonna enter eu.turkey’s borders going to be eu’s borders and that they stupid fascits armenians or terrorist kurds can’t dare attack our people or borders.
    that is the reason why turkey wants to join eu.

    i know a few name of kurdish, armenian and greek terrorist organization.asala, eoka and pkk.(search in google)
    can anyone say a name of turkish terrorist organization???

  35. draickin
    January 22nd, 2008 | 01:39

    http://rapidshare.com/files/85569701/Turkey_In_The_EU.rar.html
    An interesting pps about Turkey! :P

  36. Sakuban
    January 22nd, 2008 | 01:43

    God damn it! I’m sick of hearing “Turks are this Turks are that.”
    Well then, i’m a Turk, yeah i’m a fascist (because i’m the one who says Turks are these Turks are that right?), i’m a dictator (because i’m the one who’s spreading stupid childish lies about nuclear weapons right?), i’m an armenian baby killer (yeah because in my before life i was a turk and choose to do so and then i reincarnated right?), and i’m a greek pus.y f**ker (because ottoman empire conquered 3 continents and couldnt find a decent pus.y and f**ked those ugliest women on earth right?), i’m an islamist (yeah because if you’re in middle east, people are on two sides islam or jews, there’s not 7 thousand religion in anatolia right?) i’m a barbarian (because you dont have anything else to say, right?), i’m ignorant (yeah sure, you got a brief information about all the turks, if they read, educated, etc.), i’m anti-democratic (yeah sure, you dont mind if i say “i skull f**k your mother, ra.pe your sister” for no reason, because you’re democratic, what i see is bunch of pus.ies without honour not democratic people) i stole land from others (yeah because turkey entered the world war just for invasion not to protect it’s land, and look for some history maps, but dont bother, just remember all living thing just deserve a place on the world and cut that country crap) i’m a terrorist (yeah sure, and that’s because i’m the one who caused 9/11, i’m the one invaded iraq, i invented nazis, i invented cold war, i drink the blood of africans each day and watch them die, i’m the one who categorizes people simply because their religion or nationality), i’m even the devil itself…
    Just blame all your sins on me, and go live your happy pink puppet lives. Thank to god i got enough patience, courage, and self-knowing to bare them all, blame it all on me, just because i’m a Turk!!!

  37. bman
    January 22nd, 2008 | 01:47

    somebody paste the link here please ?

  38. Alexander
    January 22nd, 2008 | 01:54

    @ 118:
    Stupid muslim peasant!
    You are a classic bastard Turk.
    Accusing every neighbour you got.
    Nobody will ever like you if you stay so bloody uncivilized as you are!

  39. certain someone
    January 22nd, 2008 | 02:30

    Generalizing people just from their race or religion is in its purest form an act of an uncivilized primitive mind..

  40. bello
    January 22nd, 2008 | 02:44

    Point is you take yourself too serious. Pretty much every country has laws about not making fun of their leaders etc, but they also use some common sense about upholding these laws. If it was a site with the only purpose to ridicule that guy then I’ll understand the ban. But a site like Youtube with millions of movies making fun of pretty much everything and everybody on this planet, including leaders and historical persons from every nation, race, etc? That’s just silly and when you do something like that you have to face the consequences. In this case it’s just that the rest of the world think you are silly and laugh at you. But unfortunately it is also the reason for lots of wars in your region. If you lighten up and use some common sense the world would be a better place both for you and the rest of the world.

  41. REZ
    January 22nd, 2008 | 02:55

    y are all armenia, greece mate what was the topic about these countries and ppl from these countries always have to have the spotlight on themselves becoz they are so errelivent

  42. mikey
    January 22nd, 2008 | 03:01

    dumb americans,

    Americans are NOT stupid – WITH SUBTITLES – http://youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE

  43. Parker
    January 22nd, 2008 | 03:08

    Please help me get my free ps3 just sign up u dont haf to complete any offers
    http://www.xpango.com/?ref=91097189

  44. pl0x
    January 22nd, 2008 | 03:36

    Colbert Nation Stand Proud !

  45. Armenia
    January 22nd, 2008 | 03:40

    who give a f*ck about youtube being banned in Turkey, We have greater issues to worry about, like how to get genocide recognition.

  46. Liranan
    January 22nd, 2008 | 03:51

    Vatan means country and is Farsi (Iranian).

  47. Armenia
    January 22nd, 2008 | 04:10

    Turkey is filled with a bunch of scumbag diplomats. They were exposed. They sent America 2 billion dollars to keep their mouth shut about the Armenian genocide. And America did a good job with that, they delayed the Genocide bill (H/Res 106) and I’m sure it will be vetoed cause the jews and turks won’t let that get passed. Jews and turks work together for the genocide not to be recognized.

  48. giton
    January 22nd, 2008 | 05:05

    patataturk or papaturk was a turkish-jewish zionist “donme” hatred of every minority.thats why he start ethnic cleansing before 1ww with greeks-hellenes in Pontus,kapadokia,trapezunta,smyrna,armenians ,assyrians. They may love him as pataturk but we all neighbours hate him and his children because of this.
    by the way those of you are turkomongols dont say that the chineses,their ancectors were homosexuals and pedophiles in ancient times.masonic lodges want to spread that the classical world was full of homosexuals,however some bunches of mongols,turanians,jews brought their customs as they “immigrate”…

  49. Mr. X staff member
    January 22nd, 2008 | 05:25

    Source: Fox

    That’s the only proof you need. Bogus article.

  50. Fem
    January 22nd, 2008 | 05:55

    Perhaps Mr. X is more comfortable with the BBC?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6427355.stm

    I have defended you in the past. But I can see why you offend Scene members — because of your peculiar vision of the world.

  51. Johnny
    January 22nd, 2008 | 05:58

    “Theres no such thing as democracy in Turkey….
    Biji Azadiya Welat!”

  52. mohamed
    January 22nd, 2008 | 09:50

    Turkey is a primitive, militaristic, fascistic and imperialistic land much worse than Saddam’s Iraq.
    They terrorize all their neighbours with neverending
    wars or war threats.
    All human rights are brutally suppressed!
    Freedom of speech is still punished by death!
    They capture, brutally torture and assasinate their (own or foreign) political opponents.
    They still live in the 19th century. Just watch a movie like “Midnight Express” and you will understand.
    THEY HAVE NO PLACE IN THE EU!

  53. offroad
    January 22nd, 2008 | 11:34

    F*** all Turkeys enemies: armenians-greeks and all the guys who has written here that called us barbarians

  54. offroad
    January 22nd, 2008 | 11:34

    and also f*** your EU

  55. Sevket
    January 22nd, 2008 | 11:36

    well @153

    actually we do NOT want to join your “OLD MAN” union… go and fu.k yourself!

  56. randomguy
    January 22nd, 2008 | 11:50

    any idea how to avoid the ban? changing dns or openvpn programmes dont work :/

  57. G@wain
    January 22nd, 2008 | 12:56

    @154 offroad that is the reason why people like you should be baned from the whole world your country my friend is one of the most old school country’s in the world and you are a racist like maaany others of your people when you start to realize what you are doing to yourself you will understand that for many many years you were controlled by your war criminal generals and that is why you became…….blind.
    Anyways i’m very glad that many of my fellow neighbors does not share the same barbaric opinions as you do and you can actually find many free minds with healthy ideas and artistic hearts in your country a lovely country with lots and lots of history but also with lots and lots of pain.P.S F.CK ALL OF YOU RACIST DOGS EITHER TURKISH OR GREEK YOU DON’T BELONG TO THE NEW WORLD SO WHEN THE OLD GOES JUMP OF YOUR BALCONIES AND DIE WITH IT !!!!!!!

  58. bobo
    January 22nd, 2008 | 13:29

    This post has become an attack ground for grreks-armenians-terrorist kurds to attack Turkish Nation (you ar all sick racist faschists) Islam forbids genocide and maltreatment of premitives If we treated you so bad then how calm you continue to exist??? how can you speak your language???? or be christian????. did the turks force you to change your religion?? do you even know that all ottoman emperors were from greek and armenian mothers???? ottoman family hated the turks!!! take a look at latin america and what the spanish did to the natives!!!!! or british colonialism or the algerian genocide!!!!!! chechniya, iraq,south africa Uyghurs, South Azerbaijan, karabakh!, bosnia, kosovo, native american genocide,corsica, aborgines in australia, zulu, starvation in africa do you want me to continue???? who is(was) responsible?????????

  59. äm-irk
    January 22nd, 2008 | 13:59

    Boo for limiting the free speach. Also lol for the Americans in this thread who think they have it better.

  60. Samgiee
    January 22nd, 2008 | 14:16

    @xeroti

    You are not real Turk. Because you wouldnt say anything like that..

    Just like all the times, every1 have problem with Turk`s(since Ottoman Empire) so they put silly videos on youtube. . .

  61. aydin
    January 22nd, 2008 | 15:31

    please please ban you tube in the rest of the world

  62. Meh
    January 22nd, 2008 | 16:35

    suxx0r n00bs.this is not a fix for the situation..barbarian idiots.

  63. User 04283
    January 22nd, 2008 | 18:24

    Any country without free speech sucks!

  64. Dutchman
    January 22nd, 2008 | 18:51

    Just today i heard on a turkish cnn that about 20 members of a fascist/terrorist group in Turkey called “Grey Wolves” were brought to justice (what an oxymoron concept) because that were plotting to assassinate a christian patriarch or something.

    I believe these “wolves” are some democratic thinking force right? I’ve searched for them a bit and just read a portion from what i read in Wikipedia.

    “Activities to date.

    On a global scale, the Grey Wolves are suspected to have been responsible for numerous political assassinations and disappearances of Turkish and Kurdish human rights activists, and are known to have ties with the Turkish mafia.[11] The Grey Wolves have also raised funds for Chechen guerilla separatists, whom they consider their Turkish brothers.[12]

    In 2004, the Grey Wolves successfully prevented the screening of Atom Egoyan’s Ararat in Turkey, a film about the Armenian Genocide.”

    the link is here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves

    It will be fun to watch from some fascistic supporters of them here trying to present them as a democratic political group.

    Stop burning churches, burning books, imprison liberal minds, assassinate political opponents, enforce paleolithic obsolete laws. I know about your religion “ways”… Convert to islam or die by my sword, the only true religion and fun stuff like these.

    Get out of the 19th century.

  65. Zzzzop
    January 22nd, 2008 | 19:04

    You use a marginal group like Grey Wolves to portray a nation of people? Because it fits your little perspective or serves the agenda you are promoting?

    Oh and Wikipedia?

  66. Dutchman
    January 22nd, 2008 | 19:30

    @Zzzzop Plz tell us what you think of them so we “the misled” naive people can understand.

    This “legal” group is a huge supporter of democracy so thats why they are active, alive and kill..err kicking, right?

  67. Dutchman
    January 22nd, 2008 | 19:44

    And one more thing. If they are such a “marginal” group how can they enforce their opinion on the turkish public? how can a so-called small group dictating a whole nation what to watch and watch not.. How come they have such a strong “influence” as what is wrong or right and a nation dances to their likings banning media – free speech?

    So out of the blue… from “there is no turkish terrorist group” here comes the howling of the wolves….

    Are they the law? What are their ties with politicians?
    Are you supporting their actions?

    Too many questions for you? Plz answer. I’m curious what is your agenda…

    P.S. I prefer living in a corrupted democracy country than a corrupted narrowminded fanatical country.

  68. ah me oh me
    January 22nd, 2008 | 20:04

    @168

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKK

    look, you can learn which countires supports that non “marginal” group.

    maybe they did’t burn any churches but they killed 30.000 people of mostly kurdish.

    i don’t see any difference to burn a church or kill an innocent civillian.

    westerns calls them rebel or freedom fighters.

    judge yourself first.

  69. Swede
    January 22nd, 2008 | 20:25

    Turkey – we dont want you in the EU. Period.

  70. ah me oh me
    January 22nd, 2008 | 20:29

    @170

    who cares

    play super mario

  71. Dutchman
    January 22nd, 2008 | 20:33

    I dont support terrorism. If PKK killed innocent civilians i detest such actions.

    But you seem to avoid answering.
    Are you supporting all these violations of human rights?

    Why turkey is still under EU scrutiny for not altering human rights violating laws?
    Do you know any other european country that is not abide to human rights, freedom of speech?

    Dont cover up your dirty back yard. EU is not heaven. There are many aspects of life here that SUCK big time. But as i said i prefer corruption than fanaticism.

    TRY and answer and not avoid facing a handful of facts.
    I’m sure you will not answer them…

    I wont reply again to anyone. I’ll return back to my soft drugs legalize country…. But hey at least i can admit it and criticize it. I wonder what would happen to me if i were in some wonnabe eu one… ;)

  72. ah me oh me
    January 22nd, 2008 | 20:56

    @172

    you dont get it
    turks dont support violations of human rights or like these idiotic censorship.
    we dont care what do you think about our eu membership discussion.

    you are generelizing all turkish people by virtue of indiffirent reasons.

    don’t define yourself out of us.

    what do u you think? are we all of barbarians you are just übermensch volk.

    haha this mentallity make me sick.

    don’t forget we are not defand censorship cause anyone talking about subject.

    at like this situation, greeks, armenians or racist came and
    charge us about off topic.

  73. Europeans are morons
    January 22nd, 2008 | 20:59

    Most of comments here are more idiotic than banning of youtube.

  74. korel
    January 22nd, 2008 | 22:58

    In many European countries, confessing armenian genocide is a lie is crime. This is your freedom of expression.

  75. Fem
    January 22nd, 2008 | 23:04

    “Most of comments here are more idiotic than banning of youtube.”

    That, my dear, is free speech.

    People who want only wisemen and women to give their opinions, are not in favour of freedom.

  76. ???
    January 22nd, 2008 | 23:30

    where the f*ck is that armenia????

  77. me
    January 22nd, 2008 | 23:36

    @175, that is because european countries realize that denying genocide is not humanity. It’s like saying the jewish holocaust didn’t happen. If you say that sh*t here in America you’ll get bashed. Genocide is not a joke.

    and @ 177, go read a book or go on wikipedia.

  78. me
    January 22nd, 2008 | 23:39

    BTW to the idiot who said ASALA are terrorists, you’re dumb. It’s a group of Armenians fighting for genocide recognition. They go after turkish diplomats not random civilians. They killed 50 people total in a matter of 25 years. If you consider that terrorism then what do you consider your Turkish government to be?

  79. Corsair
    January 23rd, 2008 | 00:06

    You guys, instead of wining here about our comments regarding this ridiculous censorship, go and protest outside of this … hilarious court and demand more freedom.

    Of course only if you can do that without facing the “Grey Wolves” treatment…

  80. korel
    January 23rd, 2008 | 00:39

    @178
    how long americans advocate europeans?

    in Turkey, denying the genocide of american natives is not humanity but not a crime too. you killed countless natives on their homeland and made their films to show how wild you are. you bombed over two hundred thousands of innocent people in dresden after germany surrended in WWII. You tested your nuclear bombs on japanese civillians. i don’t want to talk about iraq and somali. which is next?

    are these enough to get you bashed?

    do you want me to tell about europeans’ genocies?

    20th century written by blood and it was not yours…

  81. me
    January 23rd, 2008 | 01:29

    @ 181, I live in America but I’m not American, but i do agree with you.

  82. me
    January 23rd, 2008 | 01:32

    but, in turkey saying that the Armenian genocide did happen will get you thrown in jail. We’re smarter than that, we know your government committed the Armenian genocide, the whole world knows it but Turkey keeps denying it and in America it’s not even recognized as a genocide.

  83. Fem
    January 23rd, 2008 | 05:59

    “20th century written by blood and it was not yours…”

    In your dreams. The United States freed more people and gave more humane aid in the 20th century, than any nation has previous to that century.

    Why don’t you go ask Romanians, Bulgarians, Hungarians and all the other people the Ottoman Empire kept under harrowing conditions for centuries, before you go lobbing blame at a country which isn’t perfect — but it’s infinitessimally better than your country.

    I’m not even American either.

  84. korel
    January 23rd, 2008 | 11:56

    @183
    Why we have to accept something what we didn’t? whole the world don’t look objectively about this.

    At the begenning of WWI, The Ottoman Empire was weaken. The opportunist Armenians used this situation against Ottoman Empire. They wore Russian uniforms and attacked out civilian villages and killed thousands of innocent people. Because of this, Ottoman Empire forced about (800.000 – total 1.3 millions were living in the Ottoman Empire) Armenians to migrate. Many of them died because of conditions of the time and be killed while migrating, yes its true but not more than armenians’ did. Many of people who damaged the immigrants punished.

    @184
    “Why don’t you go ask Romanians, Bulgarians, Hungarians and all the other people the Ottoman Empire kept under harrowing conditions for centuries”

    Have you ever asked? None of them don’t say any bad thing about The Ottoman Empire because they lived in peace while the reign of The Ottoman Empire.

    “In your dreams. The United States freed more people and gave more humane aid in the 20th century, than any nation has previous to that century.”

    This is the most funny thing i have ever seen.

    @topic

    Yes banning YouTube is ridiculous and I am against this. the “grey wolves” thing is too. But you don’t know anything about Turkey.

  85. its me
    January 23rd, 2008 | 20:44

    “Why we have to accept something what we didn’t? ” blah blah blah you’re just like 90% of the turks, your own government has brain washed you, blaming it on the WW1.

  86. korel
    January 23rd, 2008 | 21:35

    I won’t waste my time with you anymore.

  87. Silencer
    January 29th, 2008 | 20:25

    Youtube is not a thing that anyone take seriously decisions on by…

    Also Turkish Goverment shouldnt play with children.
    As Turks showed their absolute power on Independence War already huh..????

  88. reptilien
    December 22nd, 2008 | 13:18

    i really feel offended by these comments since i am a turk myself

    obviously not many of you have been to turkey even once in their lives.. you wouldn’t be as aggressive and even blind

    censorship is bad but it is a common procedure even in the most developed countries and it has nothing to do with democracy

    talking about democracry in greece makes my stomach hurt

    stop being ignorant like that and if you don’t i hope war will be in the end of present day economy crisis, so all of you will be thought a better lesson on what exactly turkey is: a good or a bad country, a strong or a weak one

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