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TRADINGSTANDARDS: Epic Fail

Posted on 11.07.2008 at 15:04 in Offtopic by ReeGed

First of all, let me establish one thing. I appreciate the work that all scene groups do. Even the groups that are less experienced than others; even those that get every second release nuked. If a group does their best to adhere to scene rules and keeps putting out releases, then to me they deserve respect, whether they get nuked or not. Its when a group knowingly breaks a major scene rule and still puts out the release that a line has to be drawn. Of course many groups these days are suspected of doing this, but some just don’t cover their tracks too well.

Its the case of TRADINGSTANDARDS vs. PLUBE. Plube? Is that a scene group? No. Its a one time p2p release “group” made up of one person. This person also happens to be the Admin of Plube.com and one of my moderators on the RLSLOG Forums. About two days ago, he made a DVDRip of a film called Mutant Chronicles, which had been anticipated by some people on our forums. Proof to this can be found HERE. The source was a DVDR from a torrent tracker (Mutant Chronicles 2008 Pal DVDRo-BcF). Then today, TRADINGSTANDARD happened.

They pred “their” release of the exact same film earlier this morning (Central European Time). First reaction was naturally some suspicion, but nothing more. Then their rls got nuked for DUPE of plubes release, which was pretty funny. But then a closer look at the TRADINGSTANDARDS rls gave the greatest laugh of all:

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Obviously, TRADINGSTANDARDS didn’t even bother to cover the most simple of tracks.

I’m sure a lot of you will say, “who cares, we’re all stealing anyways”, but those who say that don’t truly have an idea of the effort and risk many scene groups go through to put out releases (even though they’re not meant for you). Groups like TRADINGSTANDARDS make a mockery of that effort.

Comments (202)

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  1. Wankstar
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:37

    Nah wrong address, you can find it on.

    http://whois.ws/domain_archive-com/plube.com/

  2. PLUBE
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:42

    Right…

    That’s still a fake name and address you tard.

  3. Anon
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:48

    ReeGeed, he isn’t one of your moderators, he’s a moderator. It sounds a little high and mighty when you say the former.

    Great post though.

  4. THE THROUMBINATOR
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:50

    For people who say they dont give a fack and they just want to download these. Well groups do this because of the fame and acknowledgement, if people start taking the credit for things they didnt release then groups will stop releasing and then who will give you your precious stolen movies?

  5. Anonymoose
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:56

    Could we get more drama queens in here please?

    Nobody cares kids.

  6. Ian
    July 11th, 2008 | 19:07

    Once again: Filesharers are LIBERATING these movies, not stealing them. Long live the revolution! :)

  7. DB
    July 11th, 2008 | 19:11

    who cares. we’re all stealing anyway.

  8. why boobs
    July 11th, 2008 | 19:12

    @98 we dont care forums not !
    we dot care
    this should be in forums not main page

  9. InnerMax
    July 11th, 2008 | 19:14

    #114
    Lol…

  10. KRIEGHOFF
    July 11th, 2008 | 19:16

    Honour among thieves?????????????

  11. InnerMax
    July 11th, 2008 | 19:20

    What?? Never heard of Robin Hood?

  12. aHoUkNow
    July 11th, 2008 | 19:22

    Yep..there tossers !

  13. paul
    July 11th, 2008 | 19:23

    looks like my post got deleted - i just said that plube cant rip anyway if the dark knight 6 minutes is anything to go by - and now i hear this film has been nuked for bad ar?

    its true, the whole ’scene’ thing is ridiculous, you people are so precious about the whole thing. good grief. if you rlslog boys were that ’scene’ you wouldnt have this site - you’d be on irc or something, not dealing out TORRENTS and RAPIDSHARE LINKS… jesus christ…

  14. d3
    July 11th, 2008 | 19:27

    props to the guy who is behind plube.com
    otherwise “nuke wars” are nothing more than kindergarten sandbox “epic” battles, noone cares except the kids who are involved

  15. liloldmidgetbug
    July 11th, 2008 | 19:44

    If you dont care then simply dont post you bunch of douche bags
    this is for people that care
    and thanks for posting release log
    scene always complains that they get falsely accused
    of “stealing from p2p”
    when they do
    this as an example
    :)

  16. Mr. X staff member
    July 11th, 2008 | 19:49

    Nice post reeged
    [NUKE][XVID]Mutant.Chronicles.2008.DVDRip.XviD-TADINGSTANDARDS[custom.quant.matrix_taken.from.p2p_i.lulz.at.i9Ld743.png]

    We should p2pban these newbs. their releases aren’t good enough to grace our front page.

  17. DJMAXIMON
    July 11th, 2008 | 19:50

    I like TRADINGSTANDARDS. If it wasn’t for them I’d have to download all the nice P2P releases via torrents or rapidshare. But as soon as they steal and pre it under the scene flag, it’s on every FTP ;-)

  18. HDpunk
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:03

    long live warez
    & long live the scene

  19. Thraprod
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:05

    I think people are missing something here. Rlslog aren’t the one’s saying that Scene releases are intended for the Scene only, most Scene groups say that. Most Scene groups say bad stuff about p2p and whatnot. Rlslog isn’t stating opinion, they aren’t being high and mighty saying “Scene releases are intended for Scene members only.” They aren’t saying you shouldn’t be able to get the releases. They are just saying that the majority of ’sceners’ would prefer that no one non-scene have it, or at least that is the traditional scene opinion.

  20. DJWill_I_AM444
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:06

    It looks like the vast majority of posts, really think this is over-the-top!

    And I have to agree.

    Stealing is stealing.. But i know how pissy sceners and coders get when their stuff is taken.

    This should of been behind close doors, and not have been posted to the public like this!

    Great for plube.com, as it will now get 1000’s of more hits, and even for TRADINGSTANDARDS!!!

    Any publicity is good publicity!

    But, it should not be discussed or be fighting about it here!

  21. T
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:11

    If you had any decency, you wouldn’t dare to post about scene rules, ReeGeed. Your very website is a disgrace to the scene, like every popular release lister/linker. The scene is meant to be underground, its leeching has become normal, well..
    Nothing against your website, but please, don’t claim you’re anything related to the scene. You’re not.

  22. Thraprod
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:20

    It’s not like scene rules are a closely guarded secret. They can be found on Wikipedia for goodness sakes.

  23. Phara
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:20

    I don’t understand why Reeg is getting so much hate for this post. Rlslog posts scene info… This particular article is the epitome of scene info. *shrugs*

    Granted, the scene is secretive… I would think most people know that, but it’s also understood that people are curious and sites like this and people within the scene itself feed that curiosity. While that is commonplace, then I think such posts should be embraced. If for nothing but general knowledge about the scene should be appreciated. I for one love knowing things like this.

    /prepares for epic rapage by random posters

  24. john
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:20

    do hash/md5 check on both n post it here

  25. Thraprod
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:22

    And BTW, Hi Ninja-Phara. Love your site.

  26. toffee
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:30

    Dats it! I Kwit Da SKENE!

  27. martin loves marceli
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:33

    this post was done just to promote plube.com

    waldo is now staff here and is obviously being sucked off by martin in a deal to make more money off advertising.

    like duhhhh !!!!

  28. rolandrat
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:35

    Rlslog is only here to make money from ads. the majority of the scene h8 Rlslog coz they make money off of other peoples work.

  29. yoyo
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:57

    That’s funny as hell and probably happens more times than people will admit. Preciate the hard work Plubes!

  30. advire
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:58

    reeged has a nice sense for sarcasm. not.

  31. jeff
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:58

    theres a difference between stealing and taking credit for something you didn’t do.

  32. csesznek
    July 11th, 2008 | 20:59

    just another proof rlslog is goin’ down the toilet. so long quality, HURRAY FOR QUANTITY!!

    this text should have been posted in the forums, where it belongs in the so.what category.

  33. Outsidemywindow
    July 11th, 2008 | 21:06

    Should be @141 martin loves marceli

  34. Papa De geer
    July 11th, 2008 | 21:11

    first there was about sean penn and no this.
    im calling papa Degeer to spank you boy !

  35. jacksonwarez.com
    July 11th, 2008 | 21:41

    now i understand. nobody cared about the dark knight post, nobody flocked to PLUBE so other posts are needed to get peopel there. :|

    pathetic.

  36. Mr. Salted Peanuts
    July 11th, 2008 | 21:43

    How can you steal from something that is already stolen or illegal anyway? Its like RLSLOG taking something from Scene Releases minutes or hours after they posted and taking the credit or vice versa, Its like tech news being copied word for word from the originating website. No one ever gives credit nowadays from where they get there torrents or info from this site included so by going overboard on the tradingstandards v Plube scenario its like the pot calling the kettle black.

  37. Morbid
    July 11th, 2008 | 21:46

    GEEKS

  38. Mr. Salted Peanuts
    July 11th, 2008 | 21:47

    “We should p2pban these newbs. their releases aren’t good enough to grace our front page.” (Mr X)

    Does that mean you get banned for all the crap and useless releases you post too?

  39. userx
    July 11th, 2008 | 22:11

    i h8 when idiots mislabel releases. like this wanker on mininova, labeling R5s as DVDRip and stating NTSC DVD source with 25fps lol…

    http://www.mininova.org/user/nikonxp

    ^_^

  40. crabstick
    July 11th, 2008 | 22:23

    who gives a çrap?

  41. john
    July 11th, 2008 | 22:42

    that nikonxp is a knob
    md5.com?

  42. hikaricore
    July 11th, 2008 | 22:42

    stop posting their releases or gtfo..

    useless post.

  43. Wilnots...
    July 11th, 2008 | 22:49

    While I offer up respects to you for your attempt at some kind of fair code of conduct….
    It is good to remember:
    When swimming in a bowl of SH*T you’re bound to get SH*TTY…
    All you can do is try to avoid the TuRDz…..

    regards…

  44. marincho
    July 11th, 2008 | 22:52

    Agree

  45. po134
    July 11th, 2008 | 22:55

    you guys should start posting good p2p release, after all it’s a release none the less and your site is called “rlslog.net” isn’t it ?

    And you give links on p2p network anyway … why not give the best whatever the sources ? ;)

  46. partofthepuzzle
    July 11th, 2008 | 23:15

    As someone who’s been involved with pirated software since before some of you were born, I have to say that this whole “scene” thing is a load of ego stroking bullsh*t. It’s only purpose is to try to make some folks feel important. Either you’re into making software available or you’re not.

    It’s great to warn others about poor products, bad cracks and rips, etc. but no one cares who stole what from someone else. Either it’s a good release or it isn’t. There isn’t a person using this site that wouldn’t grab a great release if they wanted it, simply because it didn’t adhere to the “scene” code of conduct…

  47. ^
    July 11th, 2008 | 23:34

    R5 streetdates has just updated

    http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fr5dates.org%2F&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8%20...

  48. nsane
    July 11th, 2008 | 23:35

    @159 - You’ve obviously been a leeching piece of sh!t since before I was born too. You’ve clearly never spent 6+ hours analyzing and reversing a custom piracy protection so some leeching POS, like yourself, could use it for free. Credit clearly needs to be given to someone with that kind of dedication. Don’t get pissed because you’re too stupid to understand the skills needed to accomplish something like that.

    Btw, P2P uploaders DO give credit to scene groups. You don’t see ThePirateBay etc removing the DiAMOND name from their releases. So the scene should show them the same respect, and ban all these P2P/Usenet thieving douche bags.

  49. bob
    July 11th, 2008 | 23:38

    nsane get a f—- like you complete tar.d

    Who cares?

  50. d_yen
    July 11th, 2008 | 23:43

    LOL

    Ever thought TRADINGSTANDARDS are another group releasing these for a p1ss take?

    Every release nuked for obvious reasons!

    :D

    BTW

    think the biggest non-scene thief is aXXo
    we all “steal” but claiming you have a source when you have downloaded it is a bit cheeky!

  51. nsane
    July 11th, 2008 | 23:45

    @162 - A lot of people, apparently, judging by the number of comments. Especially you, seeing as how you CARED enough to reply to my comment.

  52. Mr. Salted Peanuts
    July 11th, 2008 | 23:50

    ACTUALLY NSANE NO ONE REPLIED BECAUSE BOB HAD IT RIGHT, NO ONE CARES. AND WE ALL LEECH SOMETIME OR OTHER SO YOU AINT PERFECT NEITHER.

  53. nsane
    July 11th, 2008 | 23:57

    @165 - If you don’t ‘care’, why comment on the subject? Get a freakin dictionary, seriously.

  54. Mr. Salted Peanuts
    July 12th, 2008 | 00:00

    Why? its about freedom of speech, and since when did you have to be grammatically correct to comment? Now we are being pathetic like your comments. Oh and may I ask what I spelt wrong sir as you seem to be the type that wants to cane people over a desk (pref. young boys)

  55. NaVySeAl
    July 12th, 2008 | 00:01

    NSANE: jeez chill out dude no one does care, we leech and leech and leech and dont care if its p2p or scene

  56. TheTruth
    July 12th, 2008 | 00:04

    Uhm… I know Tradingstandards sucks, but come on. Where is this rule book on Scene Releases? Tradingstandards took it from a NON Scene group! Other groups do this to P2P all the time. So the nuke is senseless.

  57. thenyproject
    July 12th, 2008 | 00:06

    2 words: move on.

  58. grep
    July 12th, 2008 | 00:09

    This is hilarious..the drama of it all..

    I can’t wait for the next lot of NFO comments :D

  59. In Burrito
    July 12th, 2008 | 00:14

    As a member in one of the oldest dvdr groups around, i’ve seen tons of this behavior. Whenever we release a dvdr of an odd movie, someone release a dvdrip within a few days. We even say it’s ok in our nfo IF they name us as their source or even make a greet to us. I think
    thats happend once or twice in 2-300 times, but hey, it’s ok.

    About this scene vs p2p crap. 99,9% of the stuff released in the scene is our own source but there are always ppl stealing those few p2p things made by some random guy. Those who do gets banned most of the time. It’s mostly cam/ts/tc groups like Tradingstandard.

    The whole “Scene leaked” stuff is just bs. Most groups wants their stuff to get to as many ppl as possible. I know i dont want to run cce all night then upload and then fxp to a load of sites and have my gadmin to pre a movie JUST for a few other group members and their curries. If someone up a movie to a tracker, fine. More ppl will get to see if. I do understand why most sceners dont use torrents since it’s soo much easier to get nicked by the cops, but not one of the ppl i know “hate” torrents. They’re just like me.

    Oh and about rlslog. I dont download from you, but i do love to read both the reviews and the comments. I’d miss lots of stuff if no one wrote about it. Got recommended so many great movies by you and your users, so thanx.

  60. ScytheNoire
    July 12th, 2008 | 00:16

    It’s lame that the site only covers scene releases. It should cover ALL releases, scene or not. If someone else releases it first, and it’s good, cover it. Scene is not the be all, end all. They are typically just a bunch of children with e-peen issues.

  61. e3m88
    July 12th, 2008 | 00:22

    +1
    NOBODY CARES

  62. Evadingstandards
    July 12th, 2008 | 00:26

    Trading Standards is just a couple of socially challenged 16 year old (maybe younger, judging by their NFO’s) nerds trying to feel important.
    Anyone of us could do the exact same thing with some free stolen software and a low self esteem; needing to be “recognized” as an unpopular scene group…Any press is good press to these bandwidth wasters.
    Until these guys come out with a truly original release they will continue to be the joke of the release scene.
    And if they had any BALLS…they would post an E-mail or website address instead of hiding behind countless proxies and invisible IP’s

  63. John
    July 12th, 2008 | 01:28

    Can a scene group make a proper of a p2p release? I believe that should be allowed but the proper release automatically becomes a dupe when a scene release is pred.

  64. mundox
    July 12th, 2008 | 01:41

    who cares, we’re all stealing anyways

  65. grep
    July 12th, 2008 | 01:51

    @172 Good comments that are very, very accurate ;)

  66. treblig
    July 12th, 2008 | 01:54

    with everyone else and their mother weighing in, i figured i might as well share my two cents as well…

    it seems like much of the discussion on this comments section boils down to whether their should be honor among thieves. whether or not their “should” be, history shows that underground societies that operate with some level of honor and rule tend to last longer (see the mafia) while organizations where everyone stabs each other in the back tend not to last for very long (see american street gangs).

    i’m not saying we should virtually drag the trading standards guys/gals out of their homes and virtually lynch them, but i think some honor and decency should be expected. as someone who has spent some time encoding video and uploading torrents, there is a lot of work that goes into it for the uploader/ripper, and their is an art to doing it correctly. Their efforts should be recognized and appreciated, not stolen without credit.

  67. incog
    July 12th, 2008 | 02:00

    leeech leech leeech amen ;)

  68. n00b
    July 12th, 2008 | 02:10

    no more T.S for me, I agree w/ y’all

  69. Billy Bob
    July 12th, 2008 | 02:24

    @ 179 You summed it up perfect…

  70. jason
    July 12th, 2008 | 02:49

    I agree with #40s comments nobody cares and the freakin ads on here are horrible I click on any thing and I get some netflix ad or some crap!

  71. Kurisu10
    July 12th, 2008 | 03:28

    Haha. I actually laughed out loud

  72. ReX
    July 12th, 2008 | 03:47

    LOLWUT

  73. TRADINGSTANDARDS
    July 12th, 2008 | 04:10

    SORRY PLEASE FORGIVE US

  74. k
    July 12th, 2008 | 04:18

    Wow that was deep

  75. h22
    July 12th, 2008 | 04:57

    @40 use firefox and adblock plus

  76. mikeb
    July 12th, 2008 | 05:01

    who are they for then. torrents are all stolen . WHO CARES

  77. big percy
    July 12th, 2008 | 05:32

    13 out of 13 nukes, yep trading standards are taking the mick! there is NO such thing as bad publicity!!! they,ll b lapping this up! this is a great website and a BIG BIG THANK YOU 2 all the guys who put in all the hard yards.the comments section is great entertainment, even my wife reads the dr who comments abusing catherine tate!

  78. F.A.G. POLICE
    July 12th, 2008 | 06:34

    EVERYONE THAT WORKS HERE OR IS AFFILIATED WITH THIS SITE SHALL BE ARRESTED SHORTLY.

  79. turd ferguson jr
    July 12th, 2008 | 07:56

    I did dl this with from another index site which had it tagged tradingstandards. very interesting story behind this and thanks for sharing this torrent (and making it)

  80. miley cyrus
    July 12th, 2008 | 11:12

    I really do hate the scene….. P2P for life!

  81. yousare all weirdos
    July 12th, 2008 | 14:53

    all u ppl are goin “who cares? who cares??” but yet you found the time to get involved and reply in this post..
    and i reckon its wrong to stil, but if you can do it, why cant they??

  82. yousare all weirdos
    July 12th, 2008 | 15:03

    and some of you said that it aint fair to steal rips off other groups because they’ve put in the hard yards and they deserve the recognition for it, then what about the cast & crew that put in endless hours for an honest buck? fcuk that honor crap! if any of us were honorable, we wouldnt b on this sort of site, doing this sort of stuf.
    devils dont preach.

  83. NaVySeAl
    July 12th, 2008 | 15:09

    I think the best course of action is to stay neutral and give us news on ALL good quality releases regardless of source, after all those downloading really dont care who did it as long as its quality, hell even some don’t care if they get that crappy cam copy hours after release at the cinema just so they can say they saw it. This site has affiliated itself with the scene for far too long and it’s slowly eating away at this site. As for the scene knocking p2p… where do you think they started? when you watch that downloaded movie or play that cracked game how many of us sit back and take the time to think of all the work that went into it? If you do then how much time do you spend thinking about it? how can stealing from a theif be a crime it wasn’t their property in the first place, and all those older dvdrips for a start can easily be borrowed from Blockbuster and ripped, in fact I suspect many get their old movies like that but shall we slam that now too because it isn’t “scene”?

  84. anonymous
    July 12th, 2008 | 15:10

    BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

  85. jackketch
    July 12th, 2008 | 15:28

    I’ve ripped and posted up a couple of really hard to get films. Why? Because I couldn’t find them online and i thought others might also want to see them.

    Where my rips good, I mean technically good? Nope, I’m not scene, not an aXXo , I’m just a guy with a steam powered laptop.

    Other people have taken my rips and made them better. Sometimes they credit me, sometimes they don’t. ITS REAL NICE when they do, y’know?

    Thats what it comes down to. Not being a wanker. A lesson not just for ripping films but for life too. Keep up the good work Plube and Rlslog.

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  87. 101 said it
    July 12th, 2008 | 18:18

    post 101 said it

    rlslog more like hpcrtlog

    Figure that one out guys.

  88. moebius
    July 12th, 2008 | 18:38

    Well, I’m not downloading TradingStandard’s anymore.

  89. Stimpie
    July 12th, 2008 | 19:24

    scene = nerds only

  90. kurkeli
    July 12th, 2008 | 19:54

    lol

  91. yargh
    July 12th, 2008 | 19:55

    anyone remember fomDB? how that dumb girl put pics and videos of herself all over the site?

    Thats being outed as a pirate, giving plube the little credit he’s due isnt. (as I understand plube.com isa RS rls site anyway so it stands to reason its admin is active in the ’scene’ or whatever)

    btw everytime you tossers refer to yourselves as the ’scene’ you sound like 14 year old hipsters.

  92. Stoffer
    July 12th, 2008 | 20:30

    It takes a thief to catch a thief…

    Anywayz, the ripping off of one groups release only makes it more difficult for the likes of RIAA and MPAA to find “the culprit”.

    Maintaining “guild-standards” for gray area activties is laudable even if ultimately self-destructive.

  93. NaVySeAl
    July 12th, 2008 | 21:59

    Amen to stimpie

  94. Loony
    July 12th, 2008 | 22:06

    …woohoo..this place is a jungle full of monkeys…
    ..scene this…scene that… lmao

  95. iLuv Macs
    July 12th, 2008 | 23:26

    scene releases 4 ever!!

    Damn! i love RLSLOG, i visit it twice a day :-)

  96. iLuv Macs
    July 12th, 2008 | 23:36

    Hey, wait a minute!

    didn’t scene group consider posting aXXo releases although it’s not scenes’?

  97. D
    July 13th, 2008 | 19:33

    It’s pretty simply.

    Rlslog - if you don’t like a particular group simply don’t mention them. For them, any attention is good attention. The best way is to simply ignore them.

    People/leechers - Don’t like a release, Rlslog writer or anything else - simply don’t click it. just scroll past and ignore it. It’s not difficult.

    Personally, I thank people in the scene for the movies and TV episodes which I like to watch. I have no idea what their motivation is - whether it’s personal glory OR they only release things for their own benefit. Regardless of motivation, I still enjoy the results.

    Also, yes some of the rules seem very petty BUT I think having set standards (such as always using Xvid, minimum quality standards, fixed file sizes) etc is a good thing. We don’t want to be flooded with all sorts of poor quality rips using weird codecs. You download a 700Mb DVDrip and you KNOW what quality it will be.. that can only be a GOOD thing.

  98. davab
    July 15th, 2008 | 22:00

    Hellboy.2.The.Golden.Army.CaM.Readnfo.XviD-TRAIDINGSTANDARDS

    NFO QUOTE “RIP IAN OUR THOUGHTS GO TO YOUR FAMILY HOPE THE ROADS ARE SAFER WERE YOU ARE NOW
    PLEASE BE MOTORBIKE FREINDLY
    LOOK AND LOOK AGAIN
    GOODBYE M8″

    Finally justice has been served and one now there is one less in this horrible group.. HORRAY! VICTORY! Group is so bad they cant even spell their group name correctly before releasing. Anytime we see a tradingstandards person they will get run down.

  99. henry mccarty
    July 17th, 2008 | 00:09

    I do hope you know what a piece of sh*t you are for wishing harm on someone. Just an FYI before I skull f**k your dead family.

  100. Bob
    August 24th, 2008 | 23:54

    Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to get free porn passwords to Bangbros and other famous Sex sites? I have tried all sorts of things and can’t figure it out..one time I did see someone post some passwords in this forum so if this is the wrong place im sorry…help appreciated.

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