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TRADINGSTANDARDS: Epic Fail

Posted on 11.07.2008 at 15:04 in Offtopic by RLSLOG

First of all, let me establish one thing. I appreciate the work that all scene groups do. Even the groups that are less experienced than others; even those that get every second release nuked. If a group does their best to adhere to scene rules and keeps putting out releases, then to me they deserve respect, whether they get nuked or not. Its when a group knowingly breaks a major scene rule and still puts out the release that a line has to be drawn. Of course many groups these days are suspected of doing this, but some just don’t cover their tracks too well.

Its the case of TRADINGSTANDARDS vs. PLUBE. Plube? Is that a scene group? No. Its a one time p2p release “group” made up of one person. This person also happens to be the Admin of Plube.com and one of my moderators on the RLSLOG Forums. About two days ago, he made a DVDRip of a film called Mutant Chronicles, which had been anticipated by some people on our forums. Proof to this can be found HERE. The source was a DVDR from a torrent tracker (Mutant Chronicles 2008 Pal DVDRo-BcF). Then today, TRADINGSTANDARD happened.

They pred “their” release of the exact same film earlier this morning (Central European Time). First reaction was naturally some suspicion, but nothing more. Then their rls got nuked for DUPE of plubes release, which was pretty funny. But then a closer look at the TRADINGSTANDARDS rls gave the greatest laugh of all:

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Obviously, TRADINGSTANDARDS didn’t even bother to cover the most simple of tracks.

I’m sure a lot of you will say, “who cares, we’re all stealing anyways”, but those who say that don’t truly have an idea of the effort and risk many scene groups go through to put out releases (even though they’re not meant for you). Groups like TRADINGSTANDARDS make a mockery of that effort.

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  1. BustaLinx
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:06

    Certainly a highly, epic fail.

  2. rizz
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:07

    terrible, terrible

  3. PorkChop
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:08

    page 2 at best. rlslog should have that section, and move all 360 and tech news there.

    who cares really?

  4. tramp
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:08

    Epic… just epic fail.

  5. Pringles
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:09

    OWNEEED !!

    Nice PLUBE and RLSLOG.

    =D

  6. FAMMEEE
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:09

    It’s like people who “steal” MP3 releases, without bothering to remove the tags from the source they stole from.

  7. Mixtrixx
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:09

    Should rename the group “Stealing Standards” :D

  8. Nuke China
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:10

    major ass licking here. wow. deep and deep. :P

  9. User
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:10

    Who cares?

  10. Care Bear
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:11

    Care Meter reads [-|-----------]

    Low scale careface

  11. slasher
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:14

    Talking of risk – you just put that PLUBE guy to great risk – now thousands can read that administrator of PLUBE.COM is ripping movies. How hard is to find him now by authorities, what do you think? Think before act.

  12. Dave
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:14

    RLSLOG don’t like Tradingstandards, Tradingstandards are bad, bad people, we get it.

    So the question remains: Why keep posting Tradingstandards releases? surely the best way to hurt them is to not publicise “their” releases at all.

  13. LoL
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:15

    will Tradingstandards be banned from rlslog ? if not this post is useless…

  14. Dr Gonzo
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:15

    LOL – The hypocrisy of the scene never ceases to amaze me.

    The scene is dead, long live the scene!

  15. Kill Putin
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:16

    so plube stole the release of BcF, did not give credit but tagged it as plube? now whining about tradingstandars?

    pitiful. :)

  16. R-Soul
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:18

    TRADINGSTANDARDS are awesome – every release gives me a laugh – I’ve counted 13 releases – 13 NUKES!

  17. DUNNY IS KING
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:19

    well if there didnt steal it rlslog wunt have put it on the site. dont matter if it was off p2p, there the only scene group tht have released it. stolen or not.

  18. spambone
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:21

    I think that I speak for the majority of visitors to rlslog. Really, we don’t care who rips the stuff. As mentioned before, most of the scene groups do it for other sceners and not for us mere mortals. We’re happy to get anything so long as its quality.

  19. Mob Hunter
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:21

    Ahhh, stop whining

  20. Jelly
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:21

    *golf clap*

  21. Nikola staff member
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:23

    I don’t like people who steal but as DAVE says we post Tradingstandards releases. I know they steal and get nuked very often…and other scene groups have to protect their releases from them… but sometimes Tradingstandards actually helps.
    Tradingstandards – they are bad….??? Who cares???
    I don’t I just want new & fresh releases :-D

  22. pico
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:25

    who does the scene rip for if not us?

  23. ber
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:26

    yawn. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

  24. Peter
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:27

    Plube not only stole it to begin with, Plube screwed it up, 4:3 ratio lol, it was worthless anyway

  25. TemplarLord
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:27

    Lol, TRADINGSTANDARDS proved they don’t have many people onboard that actually have some brains ^^

  26. Cracky
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:27

    Plube is not scene, so they are not bound to its rules. Tradingstandars pretends to be, so… no rules… not scene.
    Shame.

    Keep up with the releases though :D

  27. donkey kong
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:34

    I appreciate the effort of scene groups bring up good movies for internet society.Thank you very much.Love you all ♥♥♥

  28. The Voice
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:34

    I probably speak for alot of people on here when I say that I’m not really bothered about who releases what, If I get my s*** for free I couldn’t care less.

  29. Outsidemywindow
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:35

    Switch the display to full screen on the ps3 and it looks perfect.

  30. PLUBE
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:36

    @26, get a clue, the dvdr was in 4:3.

  31. nobody
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:37

    Where is the Scene btw?

  32. The Voice
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:37

    But as a side note, its funny reading sceners throwing their toys out of their prams.

  33. Cracky
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:39

    We all benefit from scene releases, but, only some of us appreciate the beauty of the race, the thrill to get the PROPER. Every scene groups knows that, and that is why they do it. They are the elite, but to be elite you have to stick to the scene rules. There’s no coming back from RippingStandars.

  34. Kill Putin
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:44

    @29,

    then he should not directory tag his release. still lame, lol at plube. :)

  35. LR4004
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:44

    http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2882/owned9wz.jpg

  36. Peter
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:45

    @ Plube – sorry I guess I must be reading the aspect ratio wrong that this film was done in – or did they screw it up then u stole it? Oh wait, sorry its not wrong to steal when you aint scene – silly me :)

    Additional Details
    Parents Guide:Add content advisory for parents
    Runtime:111 min
    Country:USA
    Language:English
    Color:Color
    Aspect Ratio:1.85 : 1 more
    Sound Mix:Dolby Digital EX
    Certification:Australia:MA | Australia:MA (2008)
    Filming Locations:Bray Studios, Down Place, Oakley Green, Berkshire, England, UK more

  37. dman
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:46

    Why doesn’t this site get off its high horse. I used to be a daily visitor to this site. But within the last 3 months the editorials have gotten preachy, the ads are horribly annoying even more so than before, there’s alot of bad mouthing by the people we are trusting to be impartial and help represent the scene, and it is slow. I have 3 other sites that have “official releases” listed an hour or more before this site. And now you are “calling out” a group for stealing from one person. I don’t care! Lots of your readers don’t care! Leave it in the FORUMS. If this is just going to be a site for personal attacks laced between horrible releases it will not be missed.

  38. Olaf
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:46

    @25,

    that’s plain stupidity. RADIUM was a scene grroup, yet they posted all public FTPs in the irc channel for every visitor. and the group leader, sandor, did that.

    but probably you were a kid that time, kid.

  39. G
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:46

    TRADINGSTANDARDS << Man…. you got stupid and you got stupid !
    Guys come on man, it’s over, it’s done !
    Don’t quit your day-job now!

  40. zico
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:46

    wOw! Just WoW!! TradingStandards are fake group, a bunch of burglars, a shame to the whole scene.

    There must be “prison” to those guys. Yes, we are underground, but deeply underground THERE should be laws too.

  41. NaziJew
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:47

    @40,

    use firefox and noscript.

  42. Highcut
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:48

    You kind of broke a rule too, posting the identity of someone who has released a rip online. Tsk Tsk narc.

  43. british guy
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:49

    @43

    that is damn strong! Bloody helll, now if underground have laws, what are we gonna do???

  44. zico
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:50

    @46

    Underground must have laws.

  45. deus
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:55

    that image means nothing. You don’t even need photoshop skills to change the file name, highlighted in blue – has someone renamed the file before the screenshot was taken?

  46. matlock
    July 11th, 2008 | 15:59

    alrighty..

    but the real question is: How’s the movie?

  47. So What
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:01

    Is this headlne news?

  48. Mr.Ceeeeee
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:01

    lol at ts

    nice one plube :D (subscibed to yr site too :D )

  49. Phara
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:09

    This article is made of win. omfg. I laughed.

    Hard.

    :|

    <3 Reeg

  50. PLUBE
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:14

    @49, if you think the image is fake, get a AVI tag viewer for yourself and open up trading standards file.

  51. aft3rgl0w
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:19

    lol @ the screenshot

  52. Leroy Snape
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:22

    They done wrong!!!!. On a brighter note, i dont believe in the need for trading standards as most things they pass are shate!! O, and i shave my plubes off. Mmmmm smooooth

  53. tilerone
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:25

    lol@ Leroy

  54. voodoo
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:25

    Who cares if one group ’steals’ a release from another? Nobody.

  55. m0
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:27

    I DONT CARE. GET OVER YOURSELVES- “NOT MEANT FOR YOU” what a conceded D!CK. I’ve been involved with the “scene” since BBS days and guess what? the internet is inherently anti-hierarchical and will operate as so….and all the down-talking in the world wont EVER stop people from spreading information. The “scene” now is just rich nerds that think they are hackers or something. give it up, you are PETTY thieves. Petty.

  56. PrS!
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:28

    Three words shorten into three letters. LOL.

  57. monk
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:30

    thx for posting this. the world is a better place now that people are aware of this great news.

    it is more important than the global warming nonsense or earth pollution. :|

  58. drasked
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:31

    Funny, scene drama is one of the best. moar plix!!

  59. observer
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:32

    No offense to the groups that release great stuff, and I’m not anti-piracy by any means. But is there really any honor among thieves.

  60. Steve
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:32

    There is no honor among thieves

  61. drasked
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:33

    @65

    Yeah your right, we need more news about global events on this website about scene releases.

  62. Bryce
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:36

    TRADINGSTANDARDS = Dumbass, jackass, candyass, lazyass and something else with ass. xD

  63. Saint Dave
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:40

    Can you guys keep the drama somewhere else and stick to releases please? If you guys insist, then get a new site called rlslogcrap.net and dump all these off-topic (aka crap) stuff there.

  64. MMM
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:40

    lolz ….
    how cud any1 be sooo stupid ?

    o wait…maybe plube ia also a member of TradingS….
    and all this is to publicize TS
    u know as they say , bad publicity better than no publicity,
    and this article will be read by millions ! …TS knew that was comin .. !

  65. MMM
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:41

    i knw that sounds crazy…but well…seriously this stupid ?…nah…i dont believe it !

  66. viranth
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:42

    As long as I get to download games, movies and what not online, I don’t care who put it there first.

    And I guess if you’re not “in the scene”, there is no reason for you to follow their rules.

  67. Mantra
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:46

    “who cares, we’re all stealing anyways” – Indeed

    “those who say that don’t truly have an idea of the effort
    and risk many scene groups go through to put out releases
    (even though they’re not meant for you)”

    Hmmm… Excuse me, who are they meant to then? For the
    archival purposes of someone who worries that these epic
    masterpieces get lost in the mist of time? A videolibrarian
    that has an immense collection of movies to keep for the
    enlightenment of future generations?

    No.

    This is all for bragging rights people, to show who has
    the biggest “e-straw”.

    And scene rules suck hard and deep with all the sanctimonious
    bullcrap they spew to nuke releases…

    We are all thieves. But some take more pride from the job than they should.

    And no, I’m not 1st. :D

  68. Don't you worry about it
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:50

    I just would like to point out, you guys here @ rlslog get 100,000 + unique hits a day, so to me it’s obvious that this site is doing something right. I will admit I don’t care about every post that shows up here but I just move on, the people that get their info about scene rls here should not come on bashing the mods/admin of this site period. Everyone here from Mods to Admin you have my up-most RESPECT good job keep them coming. Ignore all the idiots

  69. Bumfluff
    July 11th, 2008 | 16:57

    rlslog isnt connected to the scene, they whore off its back like any p2p release group. Not that theres anything wrong with that but why pretend to be ’scene’ only? Why advertise the source thiefs at the expense of the original rippers?

    Why dont you do your own thing and promote quality rather than ’scene’ releases only since you are not ’scene’. Its pathetic boys, youve merely created abstract rules to restrict yourselves within and pretend to be scenesters. If you post non-scene do you get rapped or nuked? No you dont, so stop being scene-ass-lickers and fulfill your potential.

    Find the best releases all over the nets, promote x264 and original anamorphic encodes whether scene or not. At least dont promote a stolen dupe just cause it was officially pred while the original wasnt. Wheres your honour?

  70. Untamed
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:02

    The release sucked anyway… bad ar

  71. Mantra
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:02

    Boy is ReeGed in a bad mood… :(
    No honor among thieves, boy. Period.

    Want some ass licking from me? You won’t get it.

    I come to this site every single day and enjoy the service you
    provide. Truely.

    I won’t stop coming here because of you disliking my comment.
    Better for RLSLOG do only what they do best. That’s where you shine.

    Yeah, now Plube(point)com will have a few thousand more hits thanks to this.

    Good move.

  72. Lynx
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:04

    If releases are only for the scene then who is classified as scene? and if it was so important to stop leakage just take the leakers out of the group. If I am a member of a private Torrent site am I scene or a BT Junkie with no idea, or is it some private FTP or IRC network?

  73. PrS!
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:05

    People shouldn’t hate on the scene rules.

    Yea it is a bit foolish to ‘nuke’ a release because of a misspelled name or inappropriate archive structure…
    But if it wasn’t for these rules we would end with a lot of garbage amateur releases with all sorts of sizes, formats, etc..typically found on p2p (no offense).

    A standard and routine needs to be made and polished for something to continue it’s success. Life’s much easier when you follow guidelines or in this case “rules”.

  74. KungFuBadman
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:06

    TRADING STANDARDS – I know Kung Fu, you best not show your face around my kitchen or you will get a ka pow!

    I am lethal B u get me?

    Rahh

    http://uk.youtube.com/user/punanitickler

  75. PrS!
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:08

    Dayum.. Well said number seventy nine. Well said.

  76. nortel
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:09

    wow, i didn’t know reeged was the Scene’s official spokesperson. he must be l33t or somethin.

  77. InnerMax
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:21

    Gotcha TRADINGSTANDARDS!.. Next time be extra careful with these “tiny” details. ;P

  78. blblbbl
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:22

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=jMBjK-QWgeI

  79. Adam Jones
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:23

    scene people are so precious its unbelievable. they’d fight it out with SradingStandards except it might mean they have to have to come out of their mom’s basements and experience actual sunlight. all they do is complain about how their own releases get leaked and spread and misnamed and misappropriated. its time to put their own house in order and stop th leaks in the first place. Oh wait, they do the leaks deliberately and them pretend they knew nothing about the leaks. Jesus Christ on a bike, the majority of us don’t give a f**k about Sceners. we just want a constant supply of new releases and so far the scene is doing that. other than that they’re not worth a w**k or a minute of my time.

  80. mangala
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:28

    This is like when the Beatles said they were bigger than jesus. Only this is worse, far worse. Somebody, think of the children!

  81. lllllllll
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:29

    @40 what are those sites you use, just curious would like to check them out

  82. Tal
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:35

    Well at the time that i was in a rls group.. groups like TRADINGSTANDARDS where being kicked out from the sence..

  83. misch
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:36

    people/scenegroups/users/… should get the credit they deserve, even if it’s just a case of stealing already stolen material, therefore –> tradingstandards you fail HARD.

  84. terminator
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:45

    ReeGed you seem like you seriously want to get Plube in trouble with the MPAA. The longer you leave this story up the more chances someone from MPAA would see this. You have associated Plube with pirating movies and you have associated rlslog with having close ties to Plube. This articule should be trashed as soon as possible for the safety of both Plube, Plube’s website and rlslog’s website

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    July 11th, 2008 | 17:51

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  86. Ian
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:56

    Stealing? What stealing? I’m offended. We’re FREEING these movies. Down with the evil capitalists! ;P

  87. Chalkie
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:58

    i dont know what to say, its pettty playground stuff really, fact of the matter is there is always somebody out there tring to get credit for other peoples work, sometimes they hide it well, sometimes they dont… but its important that people like this are found out, you can then always guarentee a release from them will have been released by someone else and not worth the trouble…

    peace

  88. insertclevername
    July 11th, 2008 | 17:58

    ReeGed….

    see what i don’t get is that if scene releases are for sceners only why make a website that informs the general public of said releases and is a forum for torrent links and direct download of scene releases.

    If you think that scene releases are for scene only then you should have no part of this website and the way people find out if something been released is in a pre channel.

  89. nox
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:07

    @3
    There are a lot of people who care about the releases they cover here. Just be glad they haven’t started covering DS and PSP releases.

  90. honk
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:07

    Laughed at the last sentence of the article.
    Read some of the ReeGed’s comments. Laughed at them too.
    Funny stuff, never stop, guys.

  91. QuadrupelQ
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:07

    Who cares, we’re all stealing anyways!

  92. PLUBE
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:12

    Woah you done a whois lookup for my fake address. Nice ^-^

  93. Neb
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:12

    Scene needs p2p for publicity. That’s why they leak everything. That’s why sites like this exist (and make money). Everyone wants to be famous.

  94. Dannyboy
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:17

    I think the thing to remember is that 90% of people downloading things are people who either can’t afford/don’t want to spend the money on the things they are downloading. They’re not interested with the ins and outs of how it all works, who’s involved in a nuke war, who’s nuked this or stolen that- as long as they get what they’re after, that’s all they care about. To be honest, I prefer those people to the ones who constantly complain about the stuff they’re not paying for, or whining that it’s not out quickly enough, or whatever.

    Issues like this only matter to people within the scene, and people who know nothing but think they do because they read up about stuff like this.

  95. Neesh
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:21

    I wanted to chime in about RLSLOG’s place:

    I appreciate what they do with regard to R5s, DVDrips and apps and such, but I hate when they post cams and TS’s. I agree with a previous poster who said that RLSLOG should promote the best of the web and no junk. Who cares about scene? It should be “RLSLOG: The best of the Web.”

  96. Gary
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:27

    Don’t be so stupid, you steal movies, I steal movies. So nobody cares if some rips a ripped movie and releases it, the more rips the better

  97. moataz
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:30

    Its an entertaining story, and that’s one gets when he steals, he get owned :)

  98. Little Green Man
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:33

    Think about it people, the people at Trading Standards are doing this on purpose. I’ll bet ya a million bucks. Look at all the attention they are getting from it. Nobody could be that dumb, they knew what they were doing when they posted it. Some people crave attention whether it be good or bad. Just something to think about. Lastly, I would like to say Thank you to all the people at Rlslog for all of your hard work. Don’t sweat these guys, they are just trying to get under your skin. Keep up the good work.

  99. Tradings Dad
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:35

    Sorry, I told that boy NO internet all summer but as soon as I leave for work… Won’t happen again I’m getting out the belt this time.

  100. Wankstar
    July 11th, 2008 | 18:37

    Nah wrong address, you can find it on.

    http://whois.ws/domain_archive-com/plube.com/

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