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		<title>By: Madness212</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/tpb-facing-lawsuit-next-week/comment-page-2/#comment-470215</link>
		<dc:creator>Madness212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If TPB goes down im gonne nuke em</description>
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		<title>By: Guido</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/tpb-facing-lawsuit-next-week/comment-page-2/#comment-234585</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/12/npiracy112.xml</description>
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		<title>By: Niels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure wether or not this have been written before, but I just linked on to the swedish article, read it (not easy, but do-able for a dane) and found out that actually all of the evidence found at the raid have been declared null... They can&#039;t use any of it since the raid against the swedish Pirate Bay location was illegal.

The reason of this is that it was the swedish justice department that ordered the swedish police to raid the location. This is in sweden illegal without proper investigation first.

All in all it appears as the swedish authorities will be vigilant regarding torrents and torrent webpages, but so far they can&#039;t do squat about TPB unless they investigate properly first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure wether or not this have been written before, but I just linked on to the swedish article, read it (not easy, but do-able for a dane) and found out that actually all of the evidence found at the raid have been declared null&#8230; They can&#8217;t use any of it since the raid against the swedish Pirate Bay location was illegal.</p>
<p>The reason of this is that it was the swedish justice department that ordered the swedish police to raid the location. This is in sweden illegal without proper investigation first.</p>
<p>All in all it appears as the swedish authorities will be vigilant regarding torrents and torrent webpages, but so far they can&#8217;t do squat about TPB unless they investigate properly first.</p>
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		<title>By: skele</title>
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		<dc:creator>skele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hope they cant be prosecuted for this matter, its a bit silly to put some1 away in sweden while they cant proof anything at the other side of the world, piracy isnt such a big deal if you see how much money the branch make. and either way, most ppl still gonna buy the software they like(i hope) i know i do. GL for the ppl of TPB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hope they cant be prosecuted for this matter, its a bit silly to put some1 away in sweden while they cant proof anything at the other side of the world, piracy isnt such a big deal if you see how much money the branch make. and either way, most ppl still gonna buy the software they like(i hope) i know i do. GL for the ppl of TPB</p>
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		<title>By: James Phredrick</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/tpb-facing-lawsuit-next-week/comment-page-2/#comment-222692</link>
		<dc:creator>James Phredrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course here in USA we have the Constitutuion and are government of laws so I&#039;m of the belief that D/L of the torrents for these DVD&#039;s, CD&#039;s etc. are subject to the following as well: [part 1]
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If You Use A Shrinkwrap License It May Not Be Enforceable: Mass Market Software &amp; The Shrinkwrap License
By Lloyd L. Rich of The Law Office of Lloyd L. Rich  
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Ever since mass market computer software has been developed computer software companies have relied upon the shrinkwrap license for protection of their intellectual property rights. A shrinkwrap license is an unsigned agreement between the purchaser of a mass market computer software program and the computer software company that developed the software. This license purports to define the terms of the transaction as well as placing contractural conditions on the purchaser&#039;s use of the software. Computer software companies rely heavily upon the shrinkwrap license agreement to protect their perceived interests in the mass market distribution of their software by retaining title to the copy of the software - the software is licensed and not sold to the purchaser. By retaining title to the software the computer software company theoretically attempts to impose conditions upon the licensee, the purchaser, that are not otherwise permissible under federal copyright law. The principal terms of the shrinkwrap license are (1) prohibits making unauthorized copies of the software, (2) prohibits rental of the software, (3) prohibits reverse engineering and modifications to the software, (4) limits use of the software to one central processing unit, (5) disclaims warranties, and (6) limits liability.

Since the purchaser of the software normally does not deal directly with the computer software company, but instead purchases the software through mass market distribution channels - retail and wholesale stores, direct mail - the sale is usually accompanied by a document known as a shrinkwrap license. The license is normally connected to the software in such a manner that the purchaser should notice and read the license prior to using the software. Acceptance of the license terms and conditions is acknowledged by the purchaser when the purchaser opens the software shrinkwrap or other packaging, or by using the software.

The enforceability of the shrinkwrap license has been the subject of much discussion and debate. Commentators and the courts have analyzed the enforceability issue from the following perspectives: (1) The Nature of the Transaction: Is the computer software a &quot;good&quot;?, Is the transaction a sale or a lease?, Is the transaction governed by the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC)?; (2) Contract Creation: Is the shrinkwrap license included in the contract entered into by the purchaser and computer software company?; (3) Enforceability: Is the shrinkwrap license a contract of adhesion?, and (4) Preemption: Is the shrinkwrap license preempted by federal copyright law?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course here in USA we have the Constitutuion and are government of laws so I&#8217;m of the belief that D/L of the torrents for these DVD&#8217;s, CD&#8217;s etc. are subject to the following as well: [part 1]<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
If You Use A Shrinkwrap License It May Not Be Enforceable: Mass Market Software &amp; The Shrinkwrap License<br />
By Lloyd L. Rich of The Law Office of Lloyd L. Rich<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Ever since mass market computer software has been developed computer software companies have relied upon the shrinkwrap license for protection of their intellectual property rights. A shrinkwrap license is an unsigned agreement between the purchaser of a mass market computer software program and the computer software company that developed the software. This license purports to define the terms of the transaction as well as placing contractural conditions on the purchaser&#8217;s use of the software. Computer software companies rely heavily upon the shrinkwrap license agreement to protect their perceived interests in the mass market distribution of their software by retaining title to the copy of the software &#8211; the software is licensed and not sold to the purchaser. By retaining title to the software the computer software company theoretically attempts to impose conditions upon the licensee, the purchaser, that are not otherwise permissible under federal copyright law. The principal terms of the shrinkwrap license are (1) prohibits making unauthorized copies of the software, (2) prohibits rental of the software, (3) prohibits reverse engineering and modifications to the software, (4) limits use of the software to one central processing unit, (5) disclaims warranties, and (6) limits liability.</p>
<p>Since the purchaser of the software normally does not deal directly with the computer software company, but instead purchases the software through mass market distribution channels &#8211; retail and wholesale stores, direct mail &#8211; the sale is usually accompanied by a document known as a shrinkwrap license. The license is normally connected to the software in such a manner that the purchaser should notice and read the license prior to using the software. Acceptance of the license terms and conditions is acknowledged by the purchaser when the purchaser opens the software shrinkwrap or other packaging, or by using the software.</p>
<p>The enforceability of the shrinkwrap license has been the subject of much discussion and debate. Commentators and the courts have analyzed the enforceability issue from the following perspectives: (1) The Nature of the Transaction: Is the computer software a &#8220;good&#8221;?, Is the transaction a sale or a lease?, Is the transaction governed by the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC)?; (2) Contract Creation: Is the shrinkwrap license included in the contract entered into by the purchaser and computer software company?; (3) Enforceability: Is the shrinkwrap license a contract of adhesion?, and (4) Preemption: Is the shrinkwrap license preempted by federal copyright law?</p>
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		<title>By: James Phredrick</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/tpb-facing-lawsuit-next-week/comment-page-2/#comment-222690</link>
		<dc:creator>James Phredrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course here in USA we have the Constitutuion and are government of laws
so I&#039;m of the belief that the download of the torrents for these DVD&#039;s, CD&#039;s etc. are subject to the following as well: [part 1]
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If You Use A Shrinkwrap License It May Not Be Enforceable: Mass Market Software &amp; The Shrinkwrap License    
By Lloyd L. Rich of The Law Office of Lloyd L. Rich  
--------------------
Ever since mass market computer software has been developed computer software companies have relied upon the shrinkwrap license for protection of their intellectual property rights. A shrinkwrap license is an unsigned agreement between the purchaser of a mass market computer software program and the computer software company that developed the software. This license purports to define the terms of the transaction as well as placing contractural conditions on the purchaser&#039;s use of the software. Computer software companies rely heavily upon the shrinkwrap license agreement to protect their perceived interests in the mass market distribution of their software by retaining title to the copy of the software - the software is licensed and not sold to the purchaser. By retaining title to the software the computer software company theoretically attempts to impose conditions upon the licensee, the purchaser, that are not otherwise permissible under federal copyright law. The principal terms of the shrinkwrap license are (1) prohibits making unauthorized copies of the software, (2) prohibits rental of the software, (3) prohibits reverse engineering and modifications to the software, (4) limits use of the software to one central processing unit, (5) disclaims warranties, and (6) limits liability.

Since the purchaser of the software normally does not deal directly with the computer software company, but instead purchases the software through mass market distribution channels - retail and wholesale stores, direct mail - the sale is usually accompanied by a document known as a shrinkwrap license. The license is normally connected to the software in such a manner that the purchaser should notice and read the license prior to using the software. Acceptance of the license terms and conditions is acknowledged by the purchaser when the purchaser opens the software shrinkwrap or other packaging, or by using the software.

The enforceability of the shrinkwrap license has been the subject of much discussion and debate. Commentators and the courts have analyzed the enforceability issue from the following perspectives: (1) The Nature of the Transaction: Is the computer software a &quot;good&quot;?, Is the transaction a sale or a lease?, Is the transaction governed by the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC)?; (2) Contract Creation: Is the shrinkwrap license included in the contract entered into by the purchaser and computer software company?; (3) Enforceability: Is the shrinkwrap license a contract of adhesion?, and (4) Preemption: Is the shrinkwrap license preempted by federal copyright law?


State Validating Statutes 

State legislatures in two states, Louisiana and Illinois, attempted to improve the computer software company&#039;s position as a licensor by reinforcing by statute the validity of the shrinkwrap license. These statutes have not proven to be effective as the Illinois statute was repealed and the Louisiana statute was determined by the court to be unenforceable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course here in USA we have the Constitutuion and are government of laws<br />
so I&#8217;m of the belief that the download of the torrents for these DVD&#8217;s, CD&#8217;s etc. are subject to the following as well: [part 1]<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
If You Use A Shrinkwrap License It May Not Be Enforceable: Mass Market Software &amp; The Shrinkwrap License<br />
By Lloyd L. Rich of The Law Office of Lloyd L. Rich<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Ever since mass market computer software has been developed computer software companies have relied upon the shrinkwrap license for protection of their intellectual property rights. A shrinkwrap license is an unsigned agreement between the purchaser of a mass market computer software program and the computer software company that developed the software. This license purports to define the terms of the transaction as well as placing contractural conditions on the purchaser&#8217;s use of the software. Computer software companies rely heavily upon the shrinkwrap license agreement to protect their perceived interests in the mass market distribution of their software by retaining title to the copy of the software &#8211; the software is licensed and not sold to the purchaser. By retaining title to the software the computer software company theoretically attempts to impose conditions upon the licensee, the purchaser, that are not otherwise permissible under federal copyright law. The principal terms of the shrinkwrap license are (1) prohibits making unauthorized copies of the software, (2) prohibits rental of the software, (3) prohibits reverse engineering and modifications to the software, (4) limits use of the software to one central processing unit, (5) disclaims warranties, and (6) limits liability.</p>
<p>Since the purchaser of the software normally does not deal directly with the computer software company, but instead purchases the software through mass market distribution channels &#8211; retail and wholesale stores, direct mail &#8211; the sale is usually accompanied by a document known as a shrinkwrap license. The license is normally connected to the software in such a manner that the purchaser should notice and read the license prior to using the software. Acceptance of the license terms and conditions is acknowledged by the purchaser when the purchaser opens the software shrinkwrap or other packaging, or by using the software.</p>
<p>The enforceability of the shrinkwrap license has been the subject of much discussion and debate. Commentators and the courts have analyzed the enforceability issue from the following perspectives: (1) The Nature of the Transaction: Is the computer software a &#8220;good&#8221;?, Is the transaction a sale or a lease?, Is the transaction governed by the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC)?; (2) Contract Creation: Is the shrinkwrap license included in the contract entered into by the purchaser and computer software company?; (3) Enforceability: Is the shrinkwrap license a contract of adhesion?, and (4) Preemption: Is the shrinkwrap license preempted by federal copyright law?</p>
<p>State Validating Statutes </p>
<p>State legislatures in two states, Louisiana and Illinois, attempted to improve the computer software company&#8217;s position as a licensor by reinforcing by statute the validity of the shrinkwrap license. These statutes have not proven to be effective as the Illinois statute was repealed and the Louisiana statute was determined by the court to be unenforceable.</p>
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		<title>By: James Phredrick</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/tpb-facing-lawsuit-next-week/comment-page-2/#comment-222685</link>
		<dc:creator>James Phredrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course here in USA we have the Constitutuion and are government of laws
so I&#039;m of the belief that these DVD&#039;s, CD&#039;s etc. are subject to the following:
---------------
If You Use A Shrinkwrap License It May Not Be Enforceable: Mass Market Software &amp; The Shrinkwrap License

    
By Lloyd L. Rich of The Law Office of Lloyd L. Rich  

Ever since mass market computer software has been developed computer software companies have relied upon the shrinkwrap license for protection of their intellectual property rights. A shrinkwrap license is an unsigned agreement between the purchaser of a mass market computer software program and the computer software company that developed the software. This license purports to define the terms of the transaction as well as placing contractural conditions on the purchaser&#039;s use of the software. Computer software companies rely heavily upon the shrinkwrap license agreement to protect their perceived interests in the mass market distribution of their software by retaining title to the copy of the software - the software is licensed and not sold to the purchaser. By retaining title to the software the computer software company theoretically attempts to impose conditions upon the licensee, the purchaser, that are not otherwise permissible under federal copyright law. The principal terms of the shrinkwrap license are (1) prohibits making unauthorized copies of the software, (2) prohibits rental of the software, (3) prohibits reverse engineering and modifications to the software, (4) limits use of the software to one central processing unit, (5) disclaims warranties, and (6) limits liability.

Since the purchaser of the software normally does not deal directly with the computer software company, but instead purchases the software through mass market distribution channels - retail and wholesale stores, direct mail - the sale is usually accompanied by a document known as a shrinkwrap license. The license is normally connected to the software in such a manner that the purchaser should notice and read the license prior to using the software. Acceptance of the license terms and conditions is acknowledged by the purchaser when the purchaser opens the software shrinkwrap or other packaging, or by using the software.

The enforceability of the shrinkwrap license has been the subject of much discussion and debate. Commentators and the courts have analyzed the enforceability issue from the following perspectives: (1) The Nature of the Transaction: Is the computer software a &quot;good&quot;?, Is the transaction a sale or a lease?, Is the transaction governed by the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC)?; (2) Contract Creation: Is the shrinkwrap license included in the contract entered into by the purchaser and computer software company?; (3) Enforceability: Is the shrinkwrap license a contract of adhesion?, and (4) Preemption: Is the shrinkwrap license preempted by federal copyright law?


State Validating Statutes 

State legislatures in two states, Louisiana and Illinois, attempted to improve the computer software company&#039;s position as a licensor by reinforcing by statute the validity of the shrinkwrap license. These statutes have not proven to be effective as the Illinois statute was repealed and the Louisiana statute was determined by the court to be unenforceable.


The Nature of the Transaction 

The prevailing view treats mass market prepackaged software as goods, since the software is analogous to any other general market product that is covered under the UCC, even though intellectual property rights are regarded as intangibles. Although the UCC does not govern aspects of a transaction that deal with the disclosure of information, the rights to use the technology, the rights to reproduce copies of the software, and the transaction involves goods that contain intangible intellectual property rights, does not absolve the computer software company from delivering to the purchaser a product that meets UCC standards.

To determine whether an agreement is a license or a sale the courts have generally looked to the terms of the license; does the licensee make periodic payments in addition to the purchase price, does the licensor retain title as a security interest, does the license expire at a specific time. Since the shrinkwrap license does not meet these criteria - the software is purchased at a fixed price with no additional payment required, title is not retained for securing payment of the purchase price as the total payment is made at the time of purchase, the license is not for a specified period of time - the prevailing view is that the transaction is a sale of goods and not a true license agreement.


Contract Creation 

The principle issue is whether the license document is part of an enforceable contract. One perspective holds that if the transaction is viewed as having induced the purchaser to have agreed to the terms of the shrinkwrap license that the terms of the agreement should be enforced by the traditional doctrine of contract law which upholds the written terms of a contract. A difficulty with this viewpoint is with the manner in which the transaction takes place; the sale occurs, the purchaser pays for the software, and the license is included with the materials the purchaser acquires. In most transactions the purchaser does not become aware of the terms of the license until after the sale is consummated, even though most software purchasers are aware of the existence of a shrinkwrap license. Since the purchaser fails to sign the shrinkwrap license agreement, or otherwise expressly agree to the terms of the shrinkwrap license, acceptance of the agreement by the purchaser is inferred by opening the package or using the software even without the license terms being read.

A recent decision, Step-Saver Data Systems, Inc. v. Wyse Technology, focused on the issue of contract creation and whether a shrinkwrap license governed the transaction at all. Although the Step-Saver decision involved a transaction between a computer software company and a reseller which attempted to impose significant contractural limitations on the rights and remedies of the purchaser the analysis of UCC rules and their applicability to this transaction have much broader significance for mass market transactions involving shrinkwrap licenses. In summary the Third Circuit held that the shrinkwrap license did not become part of the contract and therefore was not a valid modification to a previously existing contractural relationship for the sale of prepackaged computer software. The court concluded that UCC $ 2-207 controlled the transaction and that a contract existed between the parties prior to the opening of the package. Furthermore, the license terms were an offer of new terms by the computer software company, that materially altered the contract, and were not expressly accepted by the purchaser. Although Step-Saver did not deal with a typical mass market transaction of software the use of UCC $ 2-207 and the subsequent invalidation of the shrinkwrap license should apply equally well for a mass market transaction where the sale is made based upon agreement of price and quantity. This sale and the contractural relationship between the parties cannot subsequently be materially altered by a license document that was not part of the original transaction.


Enforceability &amp; Preemption 

The Vault Corp. v. Quaid Software Ltd., decision specifically addressed the issues of shrinkwrap license enforceability and preemption raised by federal copyright law. The district court stated that the shrinkwrap license was a contract of adhesion that was only enforceable if the Louisiana statute, explicitly validating the shrinkwrap license, was valid and not preempted by federal copyright law. The court then concluded that the Louisiana statute was not valid at least to the extent that its provisions were contrary to federal copyright policy, i.e. prohibition on copying for any purpose, prohibition on reverse engineering, et.al. The Fifth Circuit affirmed the district court&#039;s holding that the Louisiana shrinkwrap license statute was unenforceable for attempting to expand federal intellectual property rights and therefore was preempted, at least in part, by federal law considerations including copyright and patent law.


Conclusion 

Recent court decisions have concluded that mass market computer software transactions will be treated as the sale of goods under the UCC. Furthermore, the shrinkwrap license will not be enforceable because it is not a part of the contract creation between the parties. Finally, state laws that expand upon federal intellectual property rights are preempted by federal law. 
This article is not legal advice. You should consult an attorney if you have legal questions that relate to specific publishing issues and projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course here in USA we have the Constitutuion and are government of laws<br />
so I&#8217;m of the belief that these DVD&#8217;s, CD&#8217;s etc. are subject to the following:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
If You Use A Shrinkwrap License It May Not Be Enforceable: Mass Market Software &amp; The Shrinkwrap License</p>
<p>By Lloyd L. Rich of The Law Office of Lloyd L. Rich  </p>
<p>Ever since mass market computer software has been developed computer software companies have relied upon the shrinkwrap license for protection of their intellectual property rights. A shrinkwrap license is an unsigned agreement between the purchaser of a mass market computer software program and the computer software company that developed the software. This license purports to define the terms of the transaction as well as placing contractural conditions on the purchaser&#8217;s use of the software. Computer software companies rely heavily upon the shrinkwrap license agreement to protect their perceived interests in the mass market distribution of their software by retaining title to the copy of the software &#8211; the software is licensed and not sold to the purchaser. By retaining title to the software the computer software company theoretically attempts to impose conditions upon the licensee, the purchaser, that are not otherwise permissible under federal copyright law. The principal terms of the shrinkwrap license are (1) prohibits making unauthorized copies of the software, (2) prohibits rental of the software, (3) prohibits reverse engineering and modifications to the software, (4) limits use of the software to one central processing unit, (5) disclaims warranties, and (6) limits liability.</p>
<p>Since the purchaser of the software normally does not deal directly with the computer software company, but instead purchases the software through mass market distribution channels &#8211; retail and wholesale stores, direct mail &#8211; the sale is usually accompanied by a document known as a shrinkwrap license. The license is normally connected to the software in such a manner that the purchaser should notice and read the license prior to using the software. Acceptance of the license terms and conditions is acknowledged by the purchaser when the purchaser opens the software shrinkwrap or other packaging, or by using the software.</p>
<p>The enforceability of the shrinkwrap license has been the subject of much discussion and debate. Commentators and the courts have analyzed the enforceability issue from the following perspectives: (1) The Nature of the Transaction: Is the computer software a &#8220;good&#8221;?, Is the transaction a sale or a lease?, Is the transaction governed by the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC)?; (2) Contract Creation: Is the shrinkwrap license included in the contract entered into by the purchaser and computer software company?; (3) Enforceability: Is the shrinkwrap license a contract of adhesion?, and (4) Preemption: Is the shrinkwrap license preempted by federal copyright law?</p>
<p>State Validating Statutes </p>
<p>State legislatures in two states, Louisiana and Illinois, attempted to improve the computer software company&#8217;s position as a licensor by reinforcing by statute the validity of the shrinkwrap license. These statutes have not proven to be effective as the Illinois statute was repealed and the Louisiana statute was determined by the court to be unenforceable.</p>
<p>The Nature of the Transaction </p>
<p>The prevailing view treats mass market prepackaged software as goods, since the software is analogous to any other general market product that is covered under the UCC, even though intellectual property rights are regarded as intangibles. Although the UCC does not govern aspects of a transaction that deal with the disclosure of information, the rights to use the technology, the rights to reproduce copies of the software, and the transaction involves goods that contain intangible intellectual property rights, does not absolve the computer software company from delivering to the purchaser a product that meets UCC standards.</p>
<p>To determine whether an agreement is a license or a sale the courts have generally looked to the terms of the license; does the licensee make periodic payments in addition to the purchase price, does the licensor retain title as a security interest, does the license expire at a specific time. Since the shrinkwrap license does not meet these criteria &#8211; the software is purchased at a fixed price with no additional payment required, title is not retained for securing payment of the purchase price as the total payment is made at the time of purchase, the license is not for a specified period of time &#8211; the prevailing view is that the transaction is a sale of goods and not a true license agreement.</p>
<p>Contract Creation </p>
<p>The principle issue is whether the license document is part of an enforceable contract. One perspective holds that if the transaction is viewed as having induced the purchaser to have agreed to the terms of the shrinkwrap license that the terms of the agreement should be enforced by the traditional doctrine of contract law which upholds the written terms of a contract. A difficulty with this viewpoint is with the manner in which the transaction takes place; the sale occurs, the purchaser pays for the software, and the license is included with the materials the purchaser acquires. In most transactions the purchaser does not become aware of the terms of the license until after the sale is consummated, even though most software purchasers are aware of the existence of a shrinkwrap license. Since the purchaser fails to sign the shrinkwrap license agreement, or otherwise expressly agree to the terms of the shrinkwrap license, acceptance of the agreement by the purchaser is inferred by opening the package or using the software even without the license terms being read.</p>
<p>A recent decision, Step-Saver Data Systems, Inc. v. Wyse Technology, focused on the issue of contract creation and whether a shrinkwrap license governed the transaction at all. Although the Step-Saver decision involved a transaction between a computer software company and a reseller which attempted to impose significant contractural limitations on the rights and remedies of the purchaser the analysis of UCC rules and their applicability to this transaction have much broader significance for mass market transactions involving shrinkwrap licenses. In summary the Third Circuit held that the shrinkwrap license did not become part of the contract and therefore was not a valid modification to a previously existing contractural relationship for the sale of prepackaged computer software. The court concluded that UCC $ 2-207 controlled the transaction and that a contract existed between the parties prior to the opening of the package. Furthermore, the license terms were an offer of new terms by the computer software company, that materially altered the contract, and were not expressly accepted by the purchaser. Although Step-Saver did not deal with a typical mass market transaction of software the use of UCC $ 2-207 and the subsequent invalidation of the shrinkwrap license should apply equally well for a mass market transaction where the sale is made based upon agreement of price and quantity. This sale and the contractural relationship between the parties cannot subsequently be materially altered by a license document that was not part of the original transaction.</p>
<p>Enforceability &amp; Preemption </p>
<p>The Vault Corp. v. Quaid Software Ltd., decision specifically addressed the issues of shrinkwrap license enforceability and preemption raised by federal copyright law. The district court stated that the shrinkwrap license was a contract of adhesion that was only enforceable if the Louisiana statute, explicitly validating the shrinkwrap license, was valid and not preempted by federal copyright law. The court then concluded that the Louisiana statute was not valid at least to the extent that its provisions were contrary to federal copyright policy, i.e. prohibition on copying for any purpose, prohibition on reverse engineering, et.al. The Fifth Circuit affirmed the district court&#8217;s holding that the Louisiana shrinkwrap license statute was unenforceable for attempting to expand federal intellectual property rights and therefore was preempted, at least in part, by federal law considerations including copyright and patent law.</p>
<p>Conclusion </p>
<p>Recent court decisions have concluded that mass market computer software transactions will be treated as the sale of goods under the UCC. Furthermore, the shrinkwrap license will not be enforceable because it is not a part of the contract creation between the parties. Finally, state laws that expand upon federal intellectual property rights are preempted by federal law.<br />
This article is not legal advice. You should consult an attorney if you have legal questions that relate to specific publishing issues and projects.</p>
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		<title>By: James Phredrick</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/tpb-facing-lawsuit-next-week/comment-page-2/#comment-222683</link>
		<dc:creator>James Phredrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course here in USA we have the Constitutuion and are government of laws
so I&#039;m of the belief that these DVD&#039;s, CD&#039;s etc. are subject to the following:
--------------------------

If You Use A Shrinkwrap License It May Not Be Enforceable: Mass Market Software &amp; The Shrinkwrap License

    
By Lloyd L. Rich of The Law Office of Lloyd L. Rich  

Ever since mass market computer software has been developed computer software companies have relied upon the shrinkwrap license for protection of their intellectual property rights. A shrinkwrap license is an unsigned agreement between the purchaser of a mass market computer software program and the computer software company that developed the software. This license purports to define the terms of the transaction as well as placing contractural conditions on the purchaser&#039;s use of the software. Computer software companies rely heavily upon the shrinkwrap license agreement to protect their perceived interests in the mass market distribution of their software by retaining title to the copy of the software - the software is licensed and not sold to the purchaser. By retaining title to the software the computer software company theoretically attempts to impose conditions upon the licensee, the purchaser, that are not otherwise permissible under federal copyright law. The principal terms of the shrinkwrap license are (1) prohibits making unauthorized copies of the software, (2) prohibits rental of the software, (3) prohibits reverse engineering and modifications to the software, (4) limits use of the software to one central processing unit, (5) disclaims warranties, and (6) limits liability.

Since the purchaser of the software normally does not deal directly with the computer software company, but instead purchases the software through mass market distribution channels - retail and wholesale stores, direct mail - the sale is usually accompanied by a document known as a shrinkwrap license. The license is normally connected to the software in such a manner that the purchaser should notice and read the license prior to using the software. Acceptance of the license terms and conditions is acknowledged by the purchaser when the purchaser opens the software shrinkwrap or other packaging, or by using the software.

The enforceability of the shrinkwrap license has been the subject of much discussion and debate. Commentators and the courts have analyzed the enforceability issue from the following perspectives: (1) The Nature of the Transaction: Is the computer software a &quot;good&quot;?, Is the transaction a sale or a lease?, Is the transaction governed by the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC)?; (2) Contract Creation: Is the shrinkwrap license included in the contract entered into by the purchaser and computer software company?; (3) Enforceability: Is the shrinkwrap license a contract of adhesion?, and (4) Preemption: Is the shrinkwrap license preempted by federal copyright law?


State Validating Statutes 

State legislatures in two states, Louisiana and Illinois, attempted to improve the computer software company&#039;s position as a licensor by reinforcing by statute the validity of the shrinkwrap license. These statutes have not proven to be effective as the Illinois statute was repealed and the Louisiana statute was determined by the court to be unenforceable.


The Nature of the Transaction 

The prevailing view treats mass market prepackaged software as goods, since the software is analogous to any other general market product that is covered under the UCC, even though intellectual property rights are regarded as intangibles. Although the UCC does not govern aspects of a transaction that deal with the disclosure of information, the rights to use the technology, the rights to reproduce copies of the software, and the transaction involves goods that contain intangible intellectual property rights, does not absolve the computer software company from delivering to the purchaser a product that meets UCC standards.

To determine whether an agreement is a license or a sale the courts have generally looked to the terms of the license; does the licensee make periodic payments in addition to the purchase price, does the licensor retain title as a security interest, does the license expire at a specific time. Since the shrinkwrap license does not meet these criteria - the software is purchased at a fixed price with no additional payment required, title is not retained for securing payment of the purchase price as the total payment is made at the time of purchase, the license is not for a specified period of time - the prevailing view is that the transaction is a sale of goods and not a true license agreement.


Contract Creation 

The principle issue is whether the license document is part of an enforceable contract. One perspective holds that if the transaction is viewed as having induced the purchaser to have agreed to the terms of the shrinkwrap license that the terms of the agreement should be enforced by the traditional doctrine of contract law which upholds the written terms of a contract. A difficulty with this viewpoint is with the manner in which the transaction takes place; the sale occurs, the purchaser pays for the software, and the license is included with the materials the purchaser acquires. In most transactions the purchaser does not become aware of the terms of the license until after the sale is consummated, even though most software purchasers are aware of the existence of a shrinkwrap license. Since the purchaser fails to sign the shrinkwrap license agreement, or otherwise expressly agree to the terms of the shrinkwrap license, acceptance of the agreement by the purchaser is inferred by opening the package or using the software even without the license terms being read.

A recent decision, Step-Saver Data Systems, Inc. v. Wyse Technology, focused on the issue of contract creation and whether a shrinkwrap license governed the transaction at all. Although the Step-Saver decision involved a transaction between a computer software company and a reseller which attempted to impose significant contractural limitations on the rights and remedies of the purchaser the analysis of UCC rules and their applicability to this transaction have much broader significance for mass market transactions involving shrinkwrap licenses. In summary the Third Circuit held that the shrinkwrap license did not become part of the contract and therefore was not a valid modification to a previously existing contractural relationship for the sale of prepackaged computer software. The court concluded that UCC $ 2-207 controlled the transaction and that a contract existed between the parties prior to the opening of the package. Furthermore, the license terms were an offer of new terms by the computer software company, that materially altered the contract, and were not expressly accepted by the purchaser. Although Step-Saver did not deal with a typical mass market transaction of software the use of UCC $ 2-207 and the subsequent invalidation of the shrinkwrap license should apply equally well for a mass market transaction where the sale is made based upon agreement of price and quantity. This sale and the contractural relationship between the parties cannot subsequently be materially altered by a license document that was not part of the original transaction.


Enforceability &amp; Preemption 

The Vault Corp. v. Quaid Software Ltd., decision specifically addressed the issues of shrinkwrap license enforceability and preemption raised by federal copyright law. The district court stated that the shrinkwrap license was a contract of adhesion that was only enforceable if the Louisiana statute, explicitly validating the shrinkwrap license, was valid and not preempted by federal copyright law. The court then concluded that the Louisiana statute was not valid at least to the extent that its provisions were contrary to federal copyright policy, i.e. prohibition on copying for any purpose, prohibition on reverse engineering, et.al. The Fifth Circuit affirmed the district court&#039;s holding that the Louisiana shrinkwrap license statute was unenforceable for attempting to expand federal intellectual property rights and therefore was preempted, at least in part, by federal law considerations including copyright and patent law.


Conclusion 

Recent court decisions have concluded that mass market computer software transactions will be treated as the sale of goods under the UCC. Furthermore, the shrinkwrap license will not be enforceable because it is not a part of the contract creation between the parties. Finally, state laws that expand upon federal intellectual property rights are preempted by federal law. 
This article is not legal advice. You should consult an attorney if you have legal questions that relate to specific publishing issues and projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course here in USA we have the Constitutuion and are government of laws<br />
so I&#8217;m of the belief that these DVD&#8217;s, CD&#8217;s etc. are subject to the following:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>If You Use A Shrinkwrap License It May Not Be Enforceable: Mass Market Software &amp; The Shrinkwrap License</p>
<p>By Lloyd L. Rich of The Law Office of Lloyd L. Rich  </p>
<p>Ever since mass market computer software has been developed computer software companies have relied upon the shrinkwrap license for protection of their intellectual property rights. A shrinkwrap license is an unsigned agreement between the purchaser of a mass market computer software program and the computer software company that developed the software. This license purports to define the terms of the transaction as well as placing contractural conditions on the purchaser&#8217;s use of the software. Computer software companies rely heavily upon the shrinkwrap license agreement to protect their perceived interests in the mass market distribution of their software by retaining title to the copy of the software &#8211; the software is licensed and not sold to the purchaser. By retaining title to the software the computer software company theoretically attempts to impose conditions upon the licensee, the purchaser, that are not otherwise permissible under federal copyright law. The principal terms of the shrinkwrap license are (1) prohibits making unauthorized copies of the software, (2) prohibits rental of the software, (3) prohibits reverse engineering and modifications to the software, (4) limits use of the software to one central processing unit, (5) disclaims warranties, and (6) limits liability.</p>
<p>Since the purchaser of the software normally does not deal directly with the computer software company, but instead purchases the software through mass market distribution channels &#8211; retail and wholesale stores, direct mail &#8211; the sale is usually accompanied by a document known as a shrinkwrap license. The license is normally connected to the software in such a manner that the purchaser should notice and read the license prior to using the software. Acceptance of the license terms and conditions is acknowledged by the purchaser when the purchaser opens the software shrinkwrap or other packaging, or by using the software.</p>
<p>The enforceability of the shrinkwrap license has been the subject of much discussion and debate. Commentators and the courts have analyzed the enforceability issue from the following perspectives: (1) The Nature of the Transaction: Is the computer software a &#8220;good&#8221;?, Is the transaction a sale or a lease?, Is the transaction governed by the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC)?; (2) Contract Creation: Is the shrinkwrap license included in the contract entered into by the purchaser and computer software company?; (3) Enforceability: Is the shrinkwrap license a contract of adhesion?, and (4) Preemption: Is the shrinkwrap license preempted by federal copyright law?</p>
<p>State Validating Statutes </p>
<p>State legislatures in two states, Louisiana and Illinois, attempted to improve the computer software company&#8217;s position as a licensor by reinforcing by statute the validity of the shrinkwrap license. These statutes have not proven to be effective as the Illinois statute was repealed and the Louisiana statute was determined by the court to be unenforceable.</p>
<p>The Nature of the Transaction </p>
<p>The prevailing view treats mass market prepackaged software as goods, since the software is analogous to any other general market product that is covered under the UCC, even though intellectual property rights are regarded as intangibles. Although the UCC does not govern aspects of a transaction that deal with the disclosure of information, the rights to use the technology, the rights to reproduce copies of the software, and the transaction involves goods that contain intangible intellectual property rights, does not absolve the computer software company from delivering to the purchaser a product that meets UCC standards.</p>
<p>To determine whether an agreement is a license or a sale the courts have generally looked to the terms of the license; does the licensee make periodic payments in addition to the purchase price, does the licensor retain title as a security interest, does the license expire at a specific time. Since the shrinkwrap license does not meet these criteria &#8211; the software is purchased at a fixed price with no additional payment required, title is not retained for securing payment of the purchase price as the total payment is made at the time of purchase, the license is not for a specified period of time &#8211; the prevailing view is that the transaction is a sale of goods and not a true license agreement.</p>
<p>Contract Creation </p>
<p>The principle issue is whether the license document is part of an enforceable contract. One perspective holds that if the transaction is viewed as having induced the purchaser to have agreed to the terms of the shrinkwrap license that the terms of the agreement should be enforced by the traditional doctrine of contract law which upholds the written terms of a contract. A difficulty with this viewpoint is with the manner in which the transaction takes place; the sale occurs, the purchaser pays for the software, and the license is included with the materials the purchaser acquires. In most transactions the purchaser does not become aware of the terms of the license until after the sale is consummated, even though most software purchasers are aware of the existence of a shrinkwrap license. Since the purchaser fails to sign the shrinkwrap license agreement, or otherwise expressly agree to the terms of the shrinkwrap license, acceptance of the agreement by the purchaser is inferred by opening the package or using the software even without the license terms being read.</p>
<p>A recent decision, Step-Saver Data Systems, Inc. v. Wyse Technology, focused on the issue of contract creation and whether a shrinkwrap license governed the transaction at all. Although the Step-Saver decision involved a transaction between a computer software company and a reseller which attempted to impose significant contractural limitations on the rights and remedies of the purchaser the analysis of UCC rules and their applicability to this transaction have much broader significance for mass market transactions involving shrinkwrap licenses. In summary the Third Circuit held that the shrinkwrap license did not become part of the contract and therefore was not a valid modification to a previously existing contractural relationship for the sale of prepackaged computer software. The court concluded that UCC $ 2-207 controlled the transaction and that a contract existed between the parties prior to the opening of the package. Furthermore, the license terms were an offer of new terms by the computer software company, that materially altered the contract, and were not expressly accepted by the purchaser. Although Step-Saver did not deal with a typical mass market transaction of software the use of UCC $ 2-207 and the subsequent invalidation of the shrinkwrap license should apply equally well for a mass market transaction where the sale is made based upon agreement of price and quantity. This sale and the contractural relationship between the parties cannot subsequently be materially altered by a license document that was not part of the original transaction.</p>
<p>Enforceability &amp; Preemption </p>
<p>The Vault Corp. v. Quaid Software Ltd., decision specifically addressed the issues of shrinkwrap license enforceability and preemption raised by federal copyright law. The district court stated that the shrinkwrap license was a contract of adhesion that was only enforceable if the Louisiana statute, explicitly validating the shrinkwrap license, was valid and not preempted by federal copyright law. The court then concluded that the Louisiana statute was not valid at least to the extent that its provisions were contrary to federal copyright policy, i.e. prohibition on copying for any purpose, prohibition on reverse engineering, et.al. The Fifth Circuit affirmed the district court&#8217;s holding that the Louisiana shrinkwrap license statute was unenforceable for attempting to expand federal intellectual property rights and therefore was preempted, at least in part, by federal law considerations including copyright and patent law.</p>
<p>Conclusion </p>
<p>Recent court decisions have concluded that mass market computer software transactions will be treated as the sale of goods under the UCC. Furthermore, the shrinkwrap license will not be enforceable because it is not a part of the contract creation between the parties. Finally, state laws that expand upon federal intellectual property rights are preempted by federal law.<br />
This article is not legal advice. You should consult an attorney if you have legal questions that relate to specific publishing issues and projects.</p>
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		<title>By: tangent</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/tpb-facing-lawsuit-next-week/comment-page-2/#comment-222526</link>
		<dc:creator>tangent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@150 drklrd

Here&#039;s why: This is the lead paragraph of the 1st link I posted.

European file-sharers were given a huge legal boost today, as the European Court of Justice declared that EU law does not allow Internet Service Providers to be forced to reveal the personal details of people accused of file sharing.

Ergo, sleep more soundly alludes to feeling less fearful of the repercussions of, ahem, digital duplication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@150 drklrd</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s why: This is the lead paragraph of the 1st link I posted.</p>
<p>European file-sharers were given a huge legal boost today, as the European Court of Justice declared that EU law does not allow Internet Service Providers to be forced to reveal the personal details of people accused of file sharing.</p>
<p>Ergo, sleep more soundly alludes to feeling less fearful of the repercussions of, ahem, digital duplication.</p>
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		<title>By: Living Pharaoh</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/tpb-facing-lawsuit-next-week/comment-page-2/#comment-222367</link>
		<dc:creator>Living Pharaoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Upon conference with the leading members of State of the eGyptian empire we have come to the proceeding conclusion:

If upon the forced closure of The Pirate Bay, the eGyptian people&#039;s declare WAR on the Rogue State of America (from now on known as RSA) as it is agreed upon this will clarify their willingness and subjugation with EVIL.

An embargo will be imposed that will limit personal connections with eGyptians and American citizens who are employed by the RSA or pay taxes to it. Our servers will reject all access from RSA IPs (proxies are welcome)and all RSA presences within our sovereign countries seen as hostiles presences and individuals.
Continues on colex.org/daily/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upon conference with the leading members of State of the eGyptian empire we have come to the proceeding conclusion:</p>
<p>If upon the forced closure of The Pirate Bay, the eGyptian people&#8217;s declare WAR on the Rogue State of America (from now on known as RSA) as it is agreed upon this will clarify their willingness and subjugation with EVIL.</p>
<p>An embargo will be imposed that will limit personal connections with eGyptians and American citizens who are employed by the RSA or pay taxes to it. Our servers will reject all access from RSA IPs (proxies are welcome)and all RSA presences within our sovereign countries seen as hostiles presences and individuals.<br />
Continues on colex.org/daily/</p>
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		<title>By: drklrd</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/tpb-facing-lawsuit-next-week/comment-page-2/#comment-222333</link>
		<dc:creator>drklrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@145 Snow

quote
&quot;Is it safe to visit TPB? I need to check a torrent but am afraid.&quot;

Generally visiting a site(any site) isn&#039;t a crime. The download/distribution of the said copyrighted data w/o ownership or right to distribute is illegal(in some countries). So if your downloading something it pretty much depends on your countries copyright/anti-piracy laws. If you are afraid that TPB will give out any information regarding what you dl and what you visit then take a cold shower and wake up, TPB does not keep logs and even if they did keep logs they would probably not give them to anyone. 

@134 Rekrul

True i saw a lot of people that pretty much are ignorant of their own rights mostly due to brainwashing. 

@148 tangent

quote
&quot;This is a cheap MPAA sponsored Shock and Awe tactic targeting the most high-profile site in a vain attempt to intimidate all the others, by way of its ties to US (corporate) Government.&quot;

Agreed

quote
&quot;For individual file-sharers in Europe, there is fantastic news to sleep far more soundly in the arms of Morpheus at night.&quot;

I live in Europe... why would i sleep more soundly? didn&#039;t quite get that part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@145 Snow</p>
<p>quote<br />
&#8220;Is it safe to visit TPB? I need to check a torrent but am afraid.&#8221;</p>
<p>Generally visiting a site(any site) isn&#8217;t a crime. The download/distribution of the said copyrighted data w/o ownership or right to distribute is illegal(in some countries). So if your downloading something it pretty much depends on your countries copyright/anti-piracy laws. If you are afraid that TPB will give out any information regarding what you dl and what you visit then take a cold shower and wake up, TPB does not keep logs and even if they did keep logs they would probably not give them to anyone. </p>
<p>@134 Rekrul</p>
<p>True i saw a lot of people that pretty much are ignorant of their own rights mostly due to brainwashing. </p>
<p>@148 tangent</p>
<p>quote<br />
&#8220;This is a cheap MPAA sponsored Shock and Awe tactic targeting the most high-profile site in a vain attempt to intimidate all the others, by way of its ties to US (corporate) Government.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed</p>
<p>quote<br />
&#8220;For individual file-sharers in Europe, there is fantastic news to sleep far more soundly in the arms of Morpheus at night.&#8221;</p>
<p>I live in Europe&#8230; why would i sleep more soundly? didn&#8217;t quite get that part.</p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/tpb-facing-lawsuit-next-week/comment-page-2/#comment-222195</link>
		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@144 Someone,

&quot;That one statement shows how little you actually know about patents.&quot;

You&#039;re right, I don&#039;t know much about patents, which is why I was relying on information provided by other sources;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto#Pig_Controversy
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/monsanto-pig-patent-111
http://www.organicconsumers.org/monsanto/morepigs101405.cfm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@144 Someone,</p>
<p>&#8220;That one statement shows how little you actually know about patents.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, I don&#8217;t know much about patents, which is why I was relying on information provided by other sources;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto#Pig_Controversy" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto#Pig_Controversy</a><br />
<a href="http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/monsanto-pig-patent-111" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/monsanto-pig-patent-111</a><br />
<a href="http://www.organicconsumers.org/monsanto/morepigs101405.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.organicconsumers.org/monsanto/morepigs101405.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: tangent</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/tpb-facing-lawsuit-next-week/comment-page-2/#comment-222108</link>
		<dc:creator>tangent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attacking The Pirate Bay is a fruitless endeavor when considering the huge amount of sites offering torrents or one-click links. This is a cheap MPAA sponsored Shock and Awe tactic targeting the most high-profile site in a vain attempt to intimidate all the others, by way of its ties to US (corporate) Government. Please, don&#039;t wound what you can&#039;t kill.

For individual file-sharers in Europe, there is fantastic news to sleep far more soundly in the arms of Morpheus at night. Since file-sharing of copyrighted material is considered a civil and NOT criminal offense, anti-piracy data-harvesting companies that cull IPs are illegally breaching your privacy, inadmissible in court. As such, ISPs acquiescing to reveal personal addresses are also in breach.

Here are a couple of articles from TorrentFreak:

http://torrentfreak.com/european-filesharers-anonymous-080129/

http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-company-breaches-privacy-080123/#comment-275802</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attacking The Pirate Bay is a fruitless endeavor when considering the huge amount of sites offering torrents or one-click links. This is a cheap MPAA sponsored Shock and Awe tactic targeting the most high-profile site in a vain attempt to intimidate all the others, by way of its ties to US (corporate) Government. Please, don&#8217;t wound what you can&#8217;t kill.</p>
<p>For individual file-sharers in Europe, there is fantastic news to sleep far more soundly in the arms of Morpheus at night. Since file-sharing of copyrighted material is considered a civil and NOT criminal offense, anti-piracy data-harvesting companies that cull IPs are illegally breaching your privacy, inadmissible in court. As such, ISPs acquiescing to reveal personal addresses are also in breach.</p>
<p>Here are a couple of articles from TorrentFreak:</p>
<p><a href="http://torrentfreak.com/european-filesharers-anonymous-080129/" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/european-filesharers-anonymous-080129/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-company-breaches-privacy-080123/#comment-275802" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-company-breaches-privacy-080123/#comment-275802</a></p>
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		<title>By: grimpr</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/tpb-facing-lawsuit-next-week/comment-page-2/#comment-222062</link>
		<dc:creator>grimpr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the p2p holocaust,only TPB and Edonkey will prevail.</description>
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		<title>By: loltron2001</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/tpb-facing-lawsuit-next-week/comment-page-2/#comment-222060</link>
		<dc:creator>loltron2001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long live the pirate bay

I live in NZ and here to buy a dvd it costs $75-$100,  and once you get it home and go to watch it you have to sit through unskippable anti piracy trash.   screw that noise,  i&#039;ll just download stuff i want to watch now.

Untill the price comes down and i dont get content i dont want to see when i buy a disc, i&#039;ll keep using TPB</description>
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<p>I live in NZ and here to buy a dvd it costs $75-$100,  and once you get it home and go to watch it you have to sit through unskippable anti piracy trash.   screw that noise,  i&#8217;ll just download stuff i want to watch now.</p>
<p>Untill the price comes down and i dont get content i dont want to see when i buy a disc, i&#8217;ll keep using TPB</p>
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