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TPB Facing Lawsuit Next Week

Posted on 28.01.2008 at 16:44 in Offtopic by ReeGed

Here is a translation I made of part of a Swedish article that can be found here.

After a lengthy 20 month long investigation the time has come for the lawsuit to be filed against the men behind the biggest Bittorrent-tracker in the world, The Pirate Bay.

The coming week prosecutor Håkan Roswall at the Swedish Prosecution Authority will be filing a lawsuit against the individuals behind the filesharing network The Pirate Bay. It was in March of 2006 that the Police conducted a raid of the premises where TPB servers were located and confiscated a large part of the equipment. Several people were taken into custody on suspicion of breach of copyright laws, which in Sweden can lead up to 2 years in prison.

The prosecutor has no higher hopes at stopping the entire operation. The Pirate Bays servers are no longer only located in Sweden, but stretches over a network of several countries.

“Since the infrastructure is spread over so many places around the world there is no way one single country can stop the site” Håkan Roswall says to Reuters.

The raid of last years March is however controversial. The previous Swedish government is said to have given away to pressures from the MPAA and the US government. The Justice Department is also said to have told the Police to conduct the raid against The Pirate Bay, something which is illegal in Sweden.

Can the MPAA and US government please stay the fuck out of Swedish bizniz? kthxbai.

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therapix

January 28th, 2008 | 16:45

We’ll see how this ends…
TTBAiowa

January 28th, 2008 | 16:47

F*ck em
Ponysmasher

January 28th, 2008 | 16:48

I love our laws in sweden, Justice department fails.
Pytt

January 28th, 2008 | 16:48

hmm…
Atlas

January 28th, 2008 | 16:50

tpb is untouchable.
that poster made me laugh my ass off.
James

January 28th, 2008 | 16:51

at least pirate bay will never be beaten.
As for the guys.
2 years in jail if that is alrite compare to Australia and US..
P2P foreva
draickin

January 28th, 2008 | 16:52

damn that MPAA…
hej-san

January 28th, 2008 | 16:55

Don’t think the justice dept or the industry gonna succeed in this lawsuit, tops a fine, which the TPB crew won’t have trouble paying for.
D3VUS

January 28th, 2008 | 16:58

Anon should give Scientology a break for a month and focus all of their might on the RIAA and the MPAA…but then continue with Scientology…they must be destroyed.
voldemort

January 28th, 2008 | 16:59

tpb rulez!!!!
down with the MPAA
D00D

January 28th, 2008 | 17:02

What the hell are they doing? TPB haven’t done anything illegal… If any judge find them guilty, there is no justice left in this world…
Rich3491

January 28th, 2008 | 17:06

the men behind TPB may get arrested, but TPB website will never get shut down
Fragged

January 28th, 2008 | 17:08

Got a high res version of the posters?
Billy Joe Jim Bob

January 28th, 2008 | 17:09

Next thing you know they’ll be trying to sue/fine/whatever sites that simply link there… and failing of course.
Name

January 28th, 2008 | 17:11

Oh, I wish these were the good ol’ days! I surely would sail with my fellow pirates to destroy these greedy bastards once and for all! Aaaarrhhh!
Cap'n Chronic

January 28th, 2008 | 17:11

hires poster - http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2336/2219282175_83aa0cddec_b.jpg
diana

January 28th, 2008 | 17:12

Corporations rule the world, worse than Commies
blackb0x0p3rat0r

January 28th, 2008 | 17:13

man…when i think of tpb, i get all warm-N-fuzy inside…best site ever…dont know what id do without it!
Nezzox

January 28th, 2008 | 17:14

Well, TPB has their own lawyers so they will probably be fine. They have had a few battles with american companies already. And what those darn americans do not understand is that their law does not apply worldwide. Wich made the bust on TPB illeagal because swedish autorities fell to the pressure of big bad usa and didnt have the swedish law to back them up. It probably means that the case will be in favour of TPB in court since the ones that did the raid stand on shaky ground.
Adz

January 28th, 2008 | 17:15

Woa - Do they keep all the downloaders in the same jail or something? That’s a load for one prision! It’s like there are no rapists or murderers to fill them!

ADZ
kavin

January 28th, 2008 | 17:18

Catch ‘em if u can !!!
Ponny

January 28th, 2008 | 17:22

Poster miss the best part, the police acused and threaten to add piratebay to the childpornlist with means no one in sweden can surf on there site, but as it leaked out into the media there was a debate and the police backed of. meaning mostly that people in sweden thinks it is okej to download.

As a Swede I heared this on the news when they raided thepiratebay and the media turned this into a “USA_goverment_economy_vs_the_free_people_of_the_world_debate” witch was amuseing.
Johney666

January 28th, 2008 | 17:24

NOOOOOOOO! This Sux!!
Afaz

January 28th, 2008 | 17:25

lol that sucks for the 2 in prison..Too bad they didnt cover their tracks better… haha the conversations they will have in jail??? Inmate 1:”So what are you in for” Inmate 2: “Uploading and downloading files on the internet, How about you?” Inmate 1: “Thats pretty hardcore man, Your badass..I mean I got put in here for simply killing my girlfriend for cheating on me” lol wow…
V

January 28th, 2008 | 17:25

It’s like they have nothing against them.

Creating torrents was, oh such a good idea.

.-
xtazy

January 28th, 2008 | 17:27

ahhh… i luv tpb… long live torrents
Xmoke

January 28th, 2008 | 17:29

@21, fully agree with you, its a waste of time and taxpayers money pursuing TPB. I saw the guys from TPB interviewed on the BBC’s Click programme a few months back and it was fantastic, they had a great attitude and outlook, the legal section on TPB is very funny too. You can say what you want about TPB, sure their site has a lot of junk and spam, but its one helluva resource, great for finding very old torrents.
Wibble

January 28th, 2008 | 17:29

The actual courtcase and the charges against TPB are illegal..

How can you prosecute someone over a non crime?.. This is being used as a test case to see if they (prosecuters) can get away with it.

I’d seek an injuction against the courtcase and file suit to clarify if the the court actually has jusidictution to prosecute in this situation.
aussiedrunk

January 28th, 2008 | 17:29

well i wish tpb goodluck and hope all ends well for them, the piratebay has and always will be the first sight i go to when looking for stuff..couph fff is the best lol

cheers
ReeGed

January 28th, 2008 | 17:30

@23,Ponny

Yeah i left that bit out since its old news…
Ponny

January 28th, 2008 | 17:35

hehe I forgot something:

http://www.antipiratbyran.com/index.htm?id=news&p=p35#35

it stands that I man in 45 years of age got 15 days “conditional inprisonment” and a fine of 50k KR in Norway for sharing a film(Pittbullterje) on piratebay, 2770 dl on it deturment the fine, loss of sales because of the dl.

I personaly falth alot about this, I guess 1 or 10 maxium of those 2770 dlers would buy that film
Ponny

January 28th, 2008 | 17:36

@31, ReeGed

Ah okej didnt know, still made me fault about it, korkade poliser ^^
Xmoke

January 28th, 2008 | 17:37

Here is the Youtube link to Pirate Bay on the BBC’s “Click” if anyone is interested, its good background material for noobs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhVVT54hrSE
QuadrupelQ

January 28th, 2008 | 17:44

I really couldn’t care less if they shut down every torrent site there is, EXCEPT for the Pirate Bay! I will go as far as supporting them financially (and I mean hundreds of dollars, not a measly 5 dollar Paypal transaction) in their quest for bringing us sheer joy by means of P2P.

Pirate Bay rules!!!
Parker

January 28th, 2008 | 17:45

http://rapidshare.com/files/87319565/eusarum_voisald.wav
Spartacus

January 28th, 2008 | 17:53

lol i love the picture with the posters
paul

January 28th, 2008 | 17:53

pfft, running a site providing access to illegal goods is still breaking the law. they deserve it.
killwhitey

January 28th, 2008 | 17:53

idk if anyone else has noticed this, but i have been noticing that when u go to isohunt.com, and you search up anything, there are always tons and TONS of fake files that have ONLY tpb as the tracker. idk what that is about, maybe its nothing… but this guy that i know from another guy, gets movies off of tpb, and copies them to dvds and sells them. the police here in usa busted him, because apparently, the long list of movies he was downloading, came from a tracker on tpb, that was set up but the mpaa and the riaa.

so, ya idk.
Parker

January 28th, 2008 | 17:54

http://rapidshare.com/files/87324361/DJMusicSetup.exe
lolz

January 28th, 2008 | 17:57

They turned in the lawsuit today so it should be more news about this soon
voldemort

January 28th, 2008 | 18:06

@paul
stupid MPAA troll get off !!!
Xmoke

January 28th, 2008 | 18:11

@39, the pirate bay have always had spam torrents, my guess is its so big its impossible for them to assess the quality of every torrent. Also anybody who sells pirated dvds etc is more likley to get busted than somebody who downloads for personal use, simply because its so easy to prosecute somebody dumb enough to sell fake dvds, there are trails everywhere from “customers” to the stash of “goods” in the garage lol, I doubt its anything to do solely with TPB
yakuzi mafia

January 28th, 2008 | 18:13

does anyone know about the news regarding rapidshare getting sued? looks like they are tightening the piracy issue…
this really sucks!
They are slowly trying to shut everything down!?
killwhitey

January 28th, 2008 | 18:17

@43

yea, i know. but this part is funny, the movie he 1st got caught for was sometime last year, and it was Ice Age 2 haha, cuz someone requested it. lmao.

i try to be careful and use the right sites, and i dont share crap with anyone. i keep to myself lol, and if the movie or music is good enough, ill buy it when it actually comes out.
anothergoofyone

January 28th, 2008 | 18:18

how and who do I donate too? about 95% of the torrents come from the piratebay.org I have loved the piratebay for a long time now. Let’s raise Johnny Cochran from the dead and let him present the Chibaca theory to the high court like on south park :). Anyway, i’m off to go and donate again. Pull your spare cash out of your pockets, skip a starbucks this week, skip a fast food restaurant and donate that to the piratebay.
Ms

January 28th, 2008 | 18:19

dont worry be happy! Old generation going down soon anyway, new rules apply.
cOtOm@s

January 28th, 2008 | 18:20

175MB video about BBC Click Meet the Pirate Bay Guys
http://btjunkie.org/torrent/BBC-Click-Meet-the-Pirate-Bay-Guys-Interview-200/4032b8f6940f5840df677652fbbb0450c0479a53a45c
twixt

January 28th, 2008 | 18:22

bla bla bla, waste of time

one site down.. ten other sites are waiting for that one

warez were already available in the 70’s, and it’s just unstoppable..

reason why? -> cuz it’s a ‘crime’ done by people all over the world.. 100.000 people and just a lot more

anyway, good luck with wasting your time MPAA, RIAA, and all the other headless chickens.
Funny

January 28th, 2008 | 18:25

The rich people who profit from these “stolen” properties don’t seem to be getting and less rich. Maybe if they saved the millions and millions of dollars they spend on fighting piracy they would find the profits to be equivalent or in excess of what they used to be.
John Carew

January 28th, 2008 | 18:25

All you great RLSLog guys, please take care… looks like the MPAA & RIAA just want to target whatever they can get their grubby little paws on.
If anything should happen to this site, I don’t know what I’ll do for my download fix.

As for TPB, I’m guessing (hoping!!) they’ll come out of this A-OK and have another snippet for their legal page.
Torrent

January 28th, 2008 | 18:30

If piratebay goes down who the fu** cares, many public torrent sites are much better. It’s big because it has million torrents without seeders and stupid stuff. I never dl from piratebay. Also a great damage has been done when Demonoid stopped operating, so many usefull torrents, books, audio books and rare things. So i say who give a fu** about piratebay when there are much better public torrent sites out there.
dilligaf

January 28th, 2008 | 18:34

from Jan 16th, after they were served with thousands of pages to read (different lawsuit, but they aren’t worried about some fines)

http://www.slyck.com/story1638_The_Pirate_Bay_Interview

and also:

http://www.slyck.com/story1643_The_Pirate_Bay_Breaks_10_Million_Users

long live tpb
Bean

January 28th, 2008 | 18:34

Alittle easier to just paste from The Local, swedish news for foreigns.
URL: http://www.thelocal.se/9795/20080128/
John Carew

January 28th, 2008 | 18:42

Imagine in the near future…
The MPAA and the RIAA manage to convince George W. Bush to rename the “War on Terror” to “War on Piracy” (because this one is much more important!!).

They’ll create a Department of Upload Security, invade foreign countries, ’cause they’ve allegedly got WMDs (Warez of Mass Downloads).

And every so often, a PirateBay spokesman uploads a video, declaring war on the MPAA & RIAA. He calls for DDoS attacks and hack attacks on them.

All the terrorists at Guantanamo Bay will have to be moved to accommodate the pirates… but it’s for the greater good!!
tramp

January 28th, 2008 | 18:56

Let’s all sue Google because it links to torrent sites or mp3s or pretty much anything, and you can use search parameters to find exact files.
Erm

January 28th, 2008 | 18:57

@55: I lol’d! =]
bounce

January 28th, 2008 | 19:03

tpb rulez!!!!
down with the MPAA
emok1d

January 28th, 2008 | 19:06

This is Sweden, thepiratebay will never ever been shutdown. It’s never ever going to be any prison punishment.
billy

January 28th, 2008 | 19:12

We all love sharing movies, films, etc. But its kind of funny telling the US government and friends to stay out of Swedish business. I mean, Piratebay’s primary function is to allow people free access to American products.
ReeGed

January 28th, 2008 | 19:30

@60,billy

Wow, thats quite a statement. First of all saying the primary function of TPB is to allow free access to American products is like saying America is the “primary” culture of the world, which is ridiculous.

Sure, a lot of the films shared are American, personally I detest 70% of the shit Hollywood spews out each year.

Also, just because American copyrighted files are shared on TPB this does not give the US government any right AT ALL to intervene in the SWEDISH LAW. America FUCK YEAH!? No America fuck you! I shit on the MPAA.

There, got it out of my system. No offense to you billy, just stating my opinion.
TH

January 28th, 2008 | 19:38

I would love to print that poster and hang it on my wall.
Mandog

January 28th, 2008 | 19:39

You two up there are forgetting that The Pirate Bay does not allow access to anything other then the site itself and their own content.
paul

January 28th, 2008 | 19:41

@61 dont be stupid, if sweden made sex with children legal would it suddenly be okay for a swedish man to kidnap an american kid and take him home for some buggering? and the americans wouldnt be able to do anything about it?

please people, accept that in our society you have to buy things to own them - and you guys arent doing that therefore the mpaa, police and whoever else involved has the right to try and make you pay for the crime, or at least stop you doing it over and over.
FLYING GOATMAN FROM THIRD NEBULA IN OUTER SPACE IUPWNZ U ALL HAHAHAHAHA LOL NOOBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

January 28th, 2008 | 19:49

monkey pie
ELCouz

January 28th, 2008 | 19:59

kiddie!
Rich3491

January 28th, 2008 | 20:01

who cares, TPB is crap, private trackers all the way (www.seedmore.org) best private tracker out there, and i have one invite, who wants it?
Rich3491

January 28th, 2008 | 20:01

@ FLYING GOATMAN FROM THIRD NEBULA IN OUTER SPACE IUPWNZ U ALL HAHAHAHAHA LOL NOOBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

how about a goat pie?
Kill MPAA&RIAA

January 28th, 2008 | 20:16

@Paul:

First, The Pirate Bay don’t host movies and music hosted on their servers, so to punish them is not as easy as you may think. Second, get the hell out of here.
me

January 28th, 2008 | 20:20

@64

That’s a bad example. If an American kid willingly went to Sweden to have sex there is nothing America can do about it, if in Sweden that was indeed legal.

If you go to Holland you can smoke pot even though it is illegal in your country.
Michael Collins

January 28th, 2008 | 20:21

@60 @61
Forget blaming nationalist states of amerika and europa whatever for enforcing corporate greed. It’s All Glory to Global *Corporate* Fascism! Give any government a roll of cash up the a** and they’ll fight for the shareholder! When are you guys going to get it?
john doe

January 28th, 2008 | 20:21

@Fragged

Here you go

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2336/2219282175_83aa0cddec_b.jpg
SoniKalien

January 28th, 2008 | 20:30

Everybody knows that the only way to shut down piracy is to shut down the whole internet - and sif that will ever happen.

I suspect that this is only happening to give the likes of MPAA some exposure that they are actually doing things, even if it is futile.

All hail TPB!!
LonelyGuy

January 28th, 2008 | 21:09

This sucks but we all know that we download illegal copyrighted videos/software/music. Some of us cannot afford to buy their high priced DVD’s, CD’s and Softwares in developing countries. Downloading and using their copyrighted products were the only means of us who could enjoy and explore such things. If not for the torrent sites and P2P apps, their products would not be known and recognize world wide. We are just like a fan for their products but cannot afford to buy but only can download however we don’t sell them to other people but we just used them for our own use only. Make people happy, like a lonely person like me who forgets loneliness for a while while watching movies, playing games, or learning how to use a wonderful app.
Just a guy

January 28th, 2008 | 21:10

@paul (64)
Bad example.
Diffrent countries have different ages of consent.
In the U.S.A. even different states have different ages of consent.
From 13 in Spain, 15 in Sweden, 16 in Maryland 18 in California and in some cases all the way up to 21.
Local laws govern local jurisdiction.
If not, I guess a lot of people in the U.S.A. would be convicted for reckless driving (illegal to drive on right side of the road in the U.K.) or possesion of firearms under the laws of most nations in the world.
Kidnapping however is considered a crime in all nations I know of with working legal systems and the person performing that would get extradited if such an agreement exists, otherwise convicted at the new location for illegal detention or similar laws.

TPB has not commited any crimes in Sweden, where they operate.
If a person use the information provided byt TPB in another country to commit crimes according to their local jusrisdiction that person is indeed convictable under that jurisdiction, but only because the action was performed there.
These are international laws from the mid 1600s which all nations are obliged to operate by today, including the U.S.A.

Finally, laws are not passed down from heaven or an immutable government in the societies of today.
At one time it was a crime NOT to report a runaway slave in many states of the U.S.A.
In most countries it was illegal for females to operate their own businesses.
The laws were changed because it became public opinion that the laws were wrong.
Use your own morals and opinions to guide you as to what you consider right and wrong, but don’t consider “the law” the final word in the matter.
This is how societies are built and laws are made.

So, now go back to your supervisor at WIPO/IFPI/MPAA/RIAA or whoever might be paying you to troll here and ask them if they have anymore arguments to this, or else quit and do something that actually benefits humanity.
9u3rk

January 28th, 2008 | 21:13

@5 you crazy fuk
LOL
no_rlz

January 28th, 2008 | 21:14

really sad news…
paul

January 28th, 2008 | 21:19

you really wasted a lot of time posting that, everything you said is completely irrelevant if you took the time to read it for yourself (see, i’m hoping you copy and pasted it, otherwise you’re seriously a very sad person) - as for me being with some kind of organisation - cant i be a genuine downloader AND still believe that its a criminal act? its stealing and they dont want us to steal so they come after us. sounds fair to me.

trackers are just as culpable for providing the resources to share this stuff. please realise you’re not a f*cking hero for downloading things for free and then telling the mpaa to f- themselves. jesus… i hate to say it, as a lot of people say it on the net, but ‘grow up’ will you. please.
Abba

January 28th, 2008 | 21:33

Benny and Bjorn here. Fear not Torrenters! We have just been on the phone with Anni-Frid and Agnetha - Abba will not allow this to happen! We will fight our way into the court room and defeat the Judge with our Abba-Fu!
d_YeN

January 28th, 2008 | 21:38

Well…..

This WILL be a test for them no doubt!
The case they bring will have a few suprises i think!
It wouldnt suprise me the fact you can download some pretty dodgy porn from there, child models etc which isnt good!

Alot are saying “no worries”, or “its illegal” to take them to court!
I think the police bust says it all on that as they DID bust them when “they werent allowed to!”

I do feel this will prob finish off TPB (hope im wrong!)
Demonoid went and that was kinda private, not all over the web for all to see!

I think “THEY” will have some stuff up there sleaves

I hope im just paranoid, and hope it doesnt happen but life isnt fair and it technically gives people access to d/l copyright material which whatever way you look at it they will try and stop!
Jayrodathome

January 28th, 2008 | 21:38

“Since the infrastructure is spread over so many places around the world there is no way one single country can stop the site”

:-)Thank God. Now if only Demonoid would have followed suit….

It makes me so happy that countries would have to work together and resolve their differences just to stop little ol’ PirateBay…
lol

January 28th, 2008 | 21:42

i laugh
Just a guy

January 28th, 2008 | 21:48

@paul (78):
Honestly, I didn’t type that for you only, but for everyone else too.
Hoping to help provide others with arguments for making the world better is… …sad? Ok then.

Read the text again and this time read it all.
As stated, no crime was commited by TPB anywhere where they fall under that jurisdiction.
No crime was commited, therefore noone can get sentenced for one and no culpability.
If the U.S.A. has weird laws, then that is not our problem.
Do you expect Sweden to come over to Texas and convict their state executioners for murder?
That is not how the legal system works.

If you think that “being a downloader” is illegal but you do it anyway, does not that tell you that something is wrong with the definition of what is currently legal?

It is not “theft”.
It is copying.
If I copy a house I have not stolen the house since nothing was removed from the original owner.
Theft and duplication are two very different words.

I did not say anything about people being heros for spreading culture and global understanding in my previous post.
Now I did.
I did not tell MPAA or anyone else to do anything.
I do however wish they would limit themselves to their originally intended task of coordinating technical advancement in the business and stay out of legislation in foreign countries.

“Grow up”?
Yeah, that is a mature argument right there.
paul

January 28th, 2008 | 21:49

speaking of demonoid, i loved the place, but it was hardly private - sites like piratebay killed it - coz everyone reposted the demonoid torrents on tpb, btjunkie, mininova etc and the feds went for it. damn shame, its the only site that had original torrents.
Snow

January 28th, 2008 | 21:49

Don’t worry pirates! Something so big with a population of 1M+ can’t be shut down. Watch, it’ll shut down and within a few hours it’ll return.

Support TPB!!!
Mikeovic

January 28th, 2008 | 21:51

100% backing tpb in this one, as with any other Pirates vs Douchebags cases. That poster made me lol hard. gj tpb, and good luck
paul

January 28th, 2008 | 21:53

If you think that “being a downloader” is illegal but you do it anyway, does not that tell you that something is wrong with the definition of what is currently legal?

– um… no, why would it? if i could get away with it i’d steal from shops in the real world as well. its the same as downloading. you really think making a copy (and therefore getting something for free that you would otherwise have to pay for) is okay? seriously? so everything that can be copied should just be free?
Mikeovic

January 28th, 2008 | 21:56

^Yes
paloi

January 28th, 2008 | 21:56

@ paul

what are really trying to say…typical bush people
Mauro

January 28th, 2008 | 21:58

well…if you need money to pay the layers….im happy to participate with some….TPB RULES
Misa

January 28th, 2008 | 22:02

Get lost MPAA.

Even though i download, i still watch movies in theatres and rent (i never ever buy DVD’s so downloading has nothing to do with that) so it’s not like i’m not contributing to the movie industry. Besides, they make enough money as it is!

Where i’m from, a movie ticket costs 11 bucks! That’s freakin rediculous.
Just a guy

January 28th, 2008 | 22:05

@paul (84):
Demonoid commited many mistakes if they would have wanted to stay unnoticed, but that is not TPB’s fault.
Two mistakes that come to mind would be not enforcing a private flag on their torrents and the second one would be not to have the “downloaded from demonoid.txt” in every torrent goind past them.
I never used demonoid and rarely use TPB, but I definately support their right to exist and opperate in countries they are not illegal in.

@paul (87):
I guess you and I differ then.
I act according to what I think is better for the world, not by selfish desires.
When I get presented with oportunities for actual theft from places like shops I don’t do it because I believe that is wrong, not because it is illegal.

Strange conflict here.
I do not buy movies, music, pictures, books or programs unless I have had a full functional copy of the product until I am satisfied of its ability to fullwill my intended task with it.
That would mean that if I stopped downloading I would stop buying any of these.
Considering how much I spend on these items per month I guess the publishers really gain a lot more from me buying tested products than not buying anything at all.
paul

January 28th, 2008 | 22:17

no i agree with you there actually i just didnt mention it - demonoid really should’ve forced the private flag, that was just silly.

i support the trackers right to exist too. but unlike you guys i also support the authorities’ right to kick their asses, just like it think its morally wrong to steal but if i was sure i’d get away with it i’d clean out the local shops in a flash. i’m the guy looting while everyone in the city is drowning.

yes i seem to have split personalities.
math

January 28th, 2008 | 22:17

What is the best way to protect yourself when downlaoding / uploading movies?

I mean, what can you do to minimize the risk they sue you for downloading things from sites like these or emule?
paul

January 28th, 2008 | 22:20

well i use peerguardian but theres no real proof it works, but its better than nothing i suppose. a good firewalls handy too, you got any tips ‘just a guy”?
Just a guy

January 28th, 2008 | 22:30

@paul (93):
That is a bit of a different debate, but before we might move to that it would have to first be established that TPB had indeed commited a crime in the jurisdiction(s) they are under.
Until the courts of any such jurisdictions proclaim them guilty or the laws are changed they are not guilty in their current jurisdiction.
“Innocent until proven guilty” still stands firm in most countries.

@math (94):
Apart from moving to a country where copying is not illegal there is no perfect protection, but you can at least get some level of protection using tools like PeerGuardian (http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/).
Also, remember to update you IP-blocklists in all applications like eMule, PeerGuradian and µTorrent.
drklrd

January 28th, 2008 | 22:47

@#56, tramp

quote”
Let’s all sue Google because it links to torrent sites or mp3s or pretty much anything, and you can use search parameters to find exact files.”

Thats right! I never really thought about that, but the metadata to the files “.torrent” can be found on any search site. I mean just search “allinurl: .torrent” on google and you’ll get over 3 mil hits, that would make google one of the top torrent sites (all they need now is a torrent tracker). i wonder if their gonna get sued next :)). But now getting on the real side of the problem… I read some of the interviews that the guys from TPB have done and they wont go down that easy. Maybe in 7-10 years if the EU get persuaded by the US to change the copyright laws do a degree where it will effect all of the EU members (highly unlikely) and even if that applies local jurisdiction will overpower the global one.

Now on a sidenote, because i saw some comments as everyone knows that they download copyrighted “materials”, the thing is that although there are people that just download and “might” never buy what they download there are also people that buy the stuff that they like. I buy around most of the stuff that i like (even if it takes me 1 year to get all the money) and there are plenty more that do the same. and there are people that have bought stuff (i.e. a game) and the cd was scratched and instead of buying a new one for 35 EUR or whatever amount they just download a new copy.

Anyway i got that ouf of my system, i could go on but i dont want to write a book on the matter :D, so gl&hf
Mr.Monocle the Chimp

January 28th, 2008 | 22:50

TPB for life
drklrd

January 28th, 2008 | 22:58

@#94, math

quote
“What is the best way to protect yourself when downlaoding / uploading movies?

I mean, what can you do to minimize the risk they sue you for downloading things from sites like these or emule?”

Private torrent trackers help the most with this.

and

quote

“Apart from moving to a country where copying is not illegal there is no perfect protection, but you can at least get some level of protection using tools like PeerGuardian (http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/).
Also, remember to update you IP-blocklists in all applications like eMule, PeerGuradian and µTorrent.”

means decent protection but nothing is 100%, anyway this is getting offtrack, “torrent download/anonymity protection” vs “TPB Facing Lawsuit Next Week” not really on the same topic now is it.
Just a guy

January 28th, 2008 | 23:08

Seeing a big operator like TPB getting sued will of course scare people, that is probably the main reason for this action in the first place.
If more people took more actions to protect not just themselves but by extension their fellow peers there would be a lot less problems like this.

I forgot to mention in my previous post, there are services that will allow you to use a different (Swedish) IP-address for all you traffic regardless of location through something called VPN or “tunneling”.
This should help, although it will very probably lower your network performance.
If you are interested you can look into these services for startes:
https://www.relakks.com (Associated with the swedish “pirate party”)
http://www.prq.se/ (Associacted with TPB)
maako

January 28th, 2008 | 23:13

Swedish prison..?
I took tennis lessons when I had a visit there a few years ago..
I think I’ll take a golf course next time. Or maybe an Xtreme sport like speed wall climbing, hehe..