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		<title>By: Peter Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ captainkremmen

No problem. Someone should add FAIL to that HD DVD image at the top of the page. ROFLCAKES!

Even Michael bay is gloating as he knew that Blu-ray would win but was told to hush up and retract his statement about not doing Transformers 2 (which will be getting a Blu-ray release) if Paramount went HD DVD only:
http://www.michaelbay.com/blog/files/61fd346897dded38096a8c664bb3c03f-197.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ captainkremmen</p>
<p>No problem. Someone should add FAIL to that HD DVD image at the top of the page. ROFLCAKES!</p>
<p>Even Michael bay is gloating as he knew that Blu-ray would win but was told to hush up and retract his statement about not doing Transformers 2 (which will be getting a Blu-ray release) if Paramount went HD DVD only:<br />
<a href="http://www.michaelbay.com/blog/files/61fd346897dded38096a8c664bb3c03f-197.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.michaelbay.com/blog/files/61fd346897dded38096a8c664bb3c03f-197.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: captainkremmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>captainkremmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BD+ has already been broken.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/news/2007/10/31/Blu-rays-BD-Encryption-Cracked/p1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BD+ has already been broken.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/news/2007/10/31/Blu-rays-BD-Encryption-Cracked/p1" rel="nofollow">http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/news/2007/10/31/Blu-rays-BD-Encryption-Cracked/p1</a></p>
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		<title>By: captainkremmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>captainkremmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you Peter Parker.

I&#039;ve been saying that for ages but the fanboys just wont listen.

You also have Sony to thank for all your portable media players, the grandaddy of them all was the original walkman.

Sony do NOT own the rights to BluRay, they are held by the BluRay Association now of which Sony is a founder member. Companies who want to produce BluRay hardware pay a license fee to the BluRay Association not to Sony. LG and Samsung already have licenses and now the format war is over, they will start to produce cheaper and cheaper BluRay players instead of their overpriced multiformat players. I can go to my local superstore and buy BluRay movies for the same price as, or a couple of pounds more than the equivalent DVD. Hardly double the price, at least not here in the UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you Peter Parker.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been saying that for ages but the fanboys just wont listen.</p>
<p>You also have Sony to thank for all your portable media players, the grandaddy of them all was the original walkman.</p>
<p>Sony do NOT own the rights to BluRay, they are held by the BluRay Association now of which Sony is a founder member. Companies who want to produce BluRay hardware pay a license fee to the BluRay Association not to Sony. LG and Samsung already have licenses and now the format war is over, they will start to produce cheaper and cheaper BluRay players instead of their overpriced multiformat players. I can go to my local superstore and buy BluRay movies for the same price as, or a couple of pounds more than the equivalent DVD. Hardly double the price, at least not here in the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: brookman</title>
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		<dc:creator>brookman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#alt.binaries.hdtv.x264 wtf!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#alt.binaries.hdtv.x264 wtf!!!</p>
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		<title>By: cookie</title>
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		<dc:creator>cookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now wainting for the pc blu-ray recorders rpoduce and get cheaper...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now wainting for the pc blu-ray recorders rpoduce and get cheaper&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Woo</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Woo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO one of the major reasons Blu-Ray won the format war so quickly is because of BD+ content protection. The fact that Blu-Ray has WAY more installed units than HD-DVD isn&#039;t that big of a deal because most PS3 blu-ray owners were NOT purchasing movies. Not very long after BD+ was unveiled you have Warner Bros. and other studios switching over to Blu-Ray. It doesn&#039;t really matter THAT much though because BD+ will be cracked before too long anyway. There is already a HD rip of Die Hard 4 floating around on Usenet. It seems as if that rip was made by capping each and every frame individually though. So it took 1.5 months or so to even come out and it cuts off immediately as the credits begin to roll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO one of the major reasons Blu-Ray won the format war so quickly is because of BD+ content protection. The fact that Blu-Ray has WAY more installed units than HD-DVD isn&#8217;t that big of a deal because most PS3 blu-ray owners were NOT purchasing movies. Not very long after BD+ was unveiled you have Warner Bros. and other studios switching over to Blu-Ray. It doesn&#8217;t really matter THAT much though because BD+ will be cracked before too long anyway. There is already a HD rip of Die Hard 4 floating around on Usenet. It seems as if that rip was made by capping each and every frame individually though. So it took 1.5 months or so to even come out and it cuts off immediately as the credits begin to roll.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfreyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godfreyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the Toshiba HD-A35 (the latest)DVD player the first week in Dec.07. Now if HD-DVD is going out of business... then what does this means for me. I still have another $400.00 to pay. Will they stop copying movies to HD-DVD&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the Toshiba HD-A35 (the latest)DVD player the first week in Dec.07. Now if HD-DVD is going out of business&#8230; then what does this means for me. I still have another $400.00 to pay. Will they stop copying movies to HD-DVD&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: ryley</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I don&#039;t prefer any particular format, this will decrease the number of HD movie rips on the internet. I don&#039;t think there is a hd-dvd that can&#039;t be ripped (and encoded), but all of Fox&#039;s releases (Blu-Ray only) in the last few months have been un-encodable due to BD+. But if BD+ is circumvented, then I don&#039;t think the demise of hd-dvd is a major loss for pirates (apart from more oss support for hd-dvd audio codecs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#8217;t prefer any particular format, this will decrease the number of HD movie rips on the internet. I don&#8217;t think there is a hd-dvd that can&#8217;t be ripped (and encoded), but all of Fox&#8217;s releases (Blu-Ray only) in the last few months have been un-encodable due to BD+. But if BD+ is circumvented, then I don&#8217;t think the demise of hd-dvd is a major loss for pirates (apart from more oss support for hd-dvd audio codecs).</p>
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		<title>By: al bundy</title>
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		<dc:creator>al bundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>meh, its not like i will use either format thanks to HD-Rips, LOL! ahahahahha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meh, its not like i will use either format thanks to HD-Rips, LOL! ahahahahha!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the winner is... Sony! And the people! (and those who have a PS3 of course)
And the losers are... Microsoft, Toshiba and everyone who bought the HDDVD player for their XBOX 360&#039;s!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the winner is&#8230; Sony! And the people! (and those who have a PS3 of course)<br />
And the losers are&#8230; Microsoft, Toshiba and everyone who bought the HDDVD player for their XBOX 360&#8217;s!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember that CD and DVD didn&#039;t really take off until the licensing (intellectual property) agreements allowed for real competition in the marketplace to happen and Sony has a history of being very poor in this regard.

If Sony is true to form it will charge and arm and a leg to anyone wanting to manufacture its products leading to overly expensive equipment and movies at the expense of the consumer.

This is why a win for Sony is a loss for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that CD and DVD didn&#8217;t really take off until the licensing (intellectual property) agreements allowed for real competition in the marketplace to happen and Sony has a history of being very poor in this regard.</p>
<p>If Sony is true to form it will charge and arm and a leg to anyone wanting to manufacture its products leading to overly expensive equipment and movies at the expense of the consumer.</p>
<p>This is why a win for Sony is a loss for us.</p>
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		<title>By: chrismg84</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrismg84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man.. i wonder what this means for laserdisc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man.. i wonder what this means for laserdisc</p>
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		<title>By: clever</title>
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		<dc:creator>clever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so happy the format war is over. Now companies can start mass producing Blu-Ray players driving the price down for consumers and ultimately driving the price down of the PS3 as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so happy the format war is over. Now companies can start mass producing Blu-Ray players driving the price down for consumers and ultimately driving the price down of the PS3 as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Howl4Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howl4Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could care less. All hail bittorrent, Usenet and the Pirates!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could care less. All hail bittorrent, Usenet and the Pirates!</p>
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		<title>By: NightFlight</title>
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		<dc:creator>NightFlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone here seems to be blaming corrupt corporations and greed for the failure of blu-ray. This is misplaced blame. The consumer chose Blu-ray overwhelming according to all sales data. The big movie corporations and retailers (walmart, warner, etc.) made the smart choice of backing the most purchased format.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone here seems to be blaming corrupt corporations and greed for the failure of blu-ray. This is misplaced blame. The consumer chose Blu-ray overwhelming according to all sales data. The big movie corporations and retailers (walmart, warner, etc.) made the smart choice of backing the most purchased format.</p>
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