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		<title>By: kid</title>
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		<dc:creator>kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>being an employee with the free benefits does have its advantages especially since i&#039;m quite certain i fit in the high usage category</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>being an employee with the free benefits does have its advantages especially since i&#8217;m quite certain i fit in the high usage category</p>
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		<title>By: spivack</title>
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		<dc:creator>spivack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and just a question, does anyone know how much they would charge?  I downloaded about 600GB in one month, and just wondering how much this would cost.   Can anybody in Oz (or anyone who pays for the amount downloaded) please let me know how much this would have cost them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and just a question, does anyone know how much they would charge?  I downloaded about 600GB in one month, and just wondering how much this would cost.   Can anybody in Oz (or anyone who pays for the amount downloaded) please let me know how much this would have cost them?</p>
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		<title>By: spivack</title>
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		<dc:creator>spivack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sucks, not just for us who download videos, but also for developers - has anyone ever heard of MSDN Subscriptions????  Maybe (hopefully), Microsoft will realize that charging for the amount downloaded will hurt their product, and use all that power($) they have to stop ISPs from doing this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sucks, not just for us who download videos, but also for developers &#8211; has anyone ever heard of MSDN Subscriptions????  Maybe (hopefully), Microsoft will realize that charging for the amount downloaded will hurt their product, and use all that power($) they have to stop ISPs from doing this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jl</title>
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		<dc:creator>jl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So do they charge LESS for people who don&#039;t use as much bandwidth? Hell no - stick it to the people who actually USE their &quot;always on, high speed&quot; that you advertise so much.

They push the &#039;it&#039;s so fast, it&#039;s always on&#039; then if you use it for big files (is there another reason?) they want you to pay MORE.

They have to AT LEAST provide some sort of monitor so you will know how much you&#039;ve used. Otherwise you can&#039;t question the billing. Which is probably how they want it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So do they charge LESS for people who don&#8217;t use as much bandwidth? Hell no &#8211; stick it to the people who actually USE their &#8220;always on, high speed&#8221; that you advertise so much.</p>
<p>They push the &#8216;it&#8217;s so fast, it&#8217;s always on&#8217; then if you use it for big files (is there another reason?) they want you to pay MORE.</p>
<p>They have to AT LEAST provide some sort of monitor so you will know how much you&#8217;ve used. Otherwise you can&#8217;t question the billing. Which is probably how they want it.</p>
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		<title>By: goatman</title>
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		<dc:creator>goatman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well to have a 2.4mb connection i pay 70 bucks a month for a 40 gig limit but you dont get charged when u go over you get shaped to near dial up speeds!!! the main reason why the internet is so bad in Australia is because one company basically has a monopoly over all the phone lines! the most common services you can get here are adsl or adsl2 not dsl because Telstra make so much from charging all the other ISP&#039;s to use their telephone exchanges! that is one of the major contributing factors to why there is a high price to poor service ratio! 

and you guys are complaining you might get a charge when u go over a limit i personally would rather a charge then get stuck on dial up speeds because u go over your limit and have to wait till your next billing period before you are back to normal. 

however a fibre optic network is meant to be getting set up and guess what telstra doesnt want anything to do with it because they cant control prices!!! typical!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well to have a 2.4mb connection i pay 70 bucks a month for a 40 gig limit but you dont get charged when u go over you get shaped to near dial up speeds!!! the main reason why the internet is so bad in Australia is because one company basically has a monopoly over all the phone lines! the most common services you can get here are adsl or adsl2 not dsl because Telstra make so much from charging all the other ISP&#8217;s to use their telephone exchanges! that is one of the major contributing factors to why there is a high price to poor service ratio! </p>
<p>and you guys are complaining you might get a charge when u go over a limit i personally would rather a charge then get stuck on dial up speeds because u go over your limit and have to wait till your next billing period before you are back to normal. </p>
<p>however a fibre optic network is meant to be getting set up and guess what telstra doesnt want anything to do with it because they cant control prices!!! typical!</p>
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		<title>By: Sal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate cable Internet.  One has to share the connection with the whole neighborhood.  I rather pay a higher echelon ISP that provides ADSL/DSL/T1s and provide you a direct line.  Plus one has the choice to set up your own server.  It is a bit higher in price, but worth it.  As for Time Warner, I&#039;m still fighting with them in why they messed up me credit report when I didn&#039;t owe them any money.  Time Warner is not worth paying for..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate cable Internet.  One has to share the connection with the whole neighborhood.  I rather pay a higher echelon ISP that provides ADSL/DSL/T1s and provide you a direct line.  Plus one has the choice to set up your own server.  It is a bit higher in price, but worth it.  As for Time Warner, I&#8217;m still fighting with them in why they messed up me credit report when I didn&#8217;t owe them any money.  Time Warner is not worth paying for..</p>
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		<title>By: JGarcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>JGarcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s happens when people reinstall windows and have to redownload patches. Will people be charged for downloading a lot? this is ridiculous. Time Warner is going to lose lot&#039;s of customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s happens when people reinstall windows and have to redownload patches. Will people be charged for downloading a lot? this is ridiculous. Time Warner is going to lose lot&#8217;s of customers.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous33</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>delete that post above me could be a damn malware or virus</description>
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		<title>By: bubbakush</title>
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		<dc:creator>bubbakush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i got put on soft disconnect for the second time for downloading 600 + gigs in dec ,guess the 12 mb connection
with unlimited newsgroup acess is asking for it lol.
anyhow they cant just tell me a number to shut it down after so im still somewhat confused on how much is too much. they said just dont be in the top 5% peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i got put on soft disconnect for the second time for downloading 600 + gigs in dec ,guess the 12 mb connection<br />
with unlimited newsgroup acess is asking for it lol.<br />
anyhow they cant just tell me a number to shut it down after so im still somewhat confused on how much is too much. they said just dont be in the top 5% peace</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Marley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Marley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a American nonsis</description>
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		<title>By: I Want A T1</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Want A T1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only getting your own T1 was more affordable. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only getting your own T1 was more affordable. <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dreadies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dreadies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean you Brits have got it made
Plan for high speed Internet access for British students

///

Dont believe all you read. OFCOM are having to prosecute ISPs in the UK for false advertising. They are also having to take BT to task for not ploughing profits back into internet infrastructure. It will be a decade at least till you find fibreoptics outside the main cities. It was the same with ADSL when it came out.

Privatization was the biggest mistake ever made for all our public utilities. Investment ceases as it all becomes about profit and boardroom bonuses. I mean what kind of company has to be taken to court to ensure that it can remain competitive in the changing world. A daft one, thats what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean you Brits have got it made<br />
Plan for high speed Internet access for British students</p>
<p>///</p>
<p>Dont believe all you read. OFCOM are having to prosecute ISPs in the UK for false advertising. They are also having to take BT to task for not ploughing profits back into internet infrastructure. It will be a decade at least till you find fibreoptics outside the main cities. It was the same with ADSL when it came out.</p>
<p>Privatization was the biggest mistake ever made for all our public utilities. Investment ceases as it all becomes about profit and boardroom bonuses. I mean what kind of company has to be taken to court to ensure that it can remain competitive in the changing world. A daft one, thats what.</p>
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		<title>By: Rap</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well well well...If this really happens than it will be the end of TWC...I will instantly DC my TWC and move to Verizon FiOS...Corporate America should be shame on themselves and should follow the path of Japan...Japan is the LAND OF HIGH TECH...America is just doing the opposite...No wonder why terrorist are so mad at this country...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well well well&#8230;If this really happens than it will be the end of TWC&#8230;I will instantly DC my TWC and move to Verizon FiOS&#8230;Corporate America should be shame on themselves and should follow the path of Japan&#8230;Japan is the LAND OF HIGH TECH&#8230;America is just doing the opposite&#8230;No wonder why terrorist are so mad at this country&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess people in apt complexes should start securing their wireless cause if Time Warner (or any cable company) puts some kinda stupid cap on the downloads there is going to be a lot of people looking into cracking the wireless protocols to get free access... thats what I think anyways...;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess people in apt complexes should start securing their wireless cause if Time Warner (or any cable company) puts some kinda stupid cap on the downloads there is going to be a lot of people looking into cracking the wireless protocols to get free access&#8230; thats what I think anyways&#8230;;)</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 04:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>donjo 
January 19th, 2008 &#124; 05:23 
RE: 70 a month for between 18 and 25mbps and a 400GB per month limit is and will do most of us quite well than you.

Where do you get the 400GB limit figure? anyone got a link to this? It is a slipper slope….next thing you know they will change more for less and less and the internet will die like aol did
---------------
Just call your TW head office/corporate offices and talk to the techs. Bypass the regional ones as they cant find their heads with both hands and a road map.

The TW head office stated that they are going to set up the following tier and no this does NOT include your e-mails uploads or IM&#039;s, just downloads

$45. a month
6 to 7mbps  100gb max

$60. a month
8 to 14mbps 250GB max

$70 a month
18 to 25mbps 400gb max

$85 a month
30 to 40 mbps 600GB max

$100 a month
40 to 50mbps  750GB and up
*this is ONLY for business, like GM and Hospitals and Colleges/Universities that need this kind of bandwith. To get this kind of speed, you will have to have a tech come to your site and set it up)

All of this is sorta moot anyway as there is a bill in Congress right now that is Veto proof when it goes up for debate this year. Once it passes, ALL ISP&#039;s will be required to give high speeds at no less then 10mbps

You can read all about it at Speed matters  
http://www.SpeedMatters.org

I mean you Brits have got it made
Plan for high speed Internet access for British students
Posted by Speed Matters team &#124; January 18, 2008 &#124; 


Jim Knight, the British minister of schools, is working with major British IT firms and parents to develop a plan to make sure every student in England has high speed Internet access, in part by requiring parents to provide it. Currently, there are more than one million children in England without home computer access.

Knight said that they are working with the IT companies to try and work out a deal to lower the cost of high speed Internet equipment if the access for over six million children becomes a requirement.  “Knight said there were ‘some crunchy negotiations ahead’ with the big firms but said the government could in effect procure millions of new customers for them.” He said he is trying to make high speed Internet access as regular for students as a pencil and piece of paper, and a vital part of education.

“The initiative is part of a major push which could also see the parents of every secondary school student given access to continuous online updates on their child&#039;s lessons, performance and behavior as early as next year.”

In addition to the exponential educational benefits for the students, the parents would be given access to learning tools and progress reports to assist in their child’s learning. The compilation of weekly reports for parents is worrying to some in the teacher’s union because of a possible increase in work, yet the benefits that come from closer contact and communications with the parents makes the progress report a real possibility. But perhaps most importantly, making high speed Internet access available to all students will start to significantly narrow the digital divide.

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/publicservices/story/0,,2235297,00.html

And look at the japanese
In the U.S., DSL generally reaches speeds of up to 1.5 – 3.0 mbps at a price averaging $30-$50 per month (not including fees) while cable modems generally reach speeds of 3-5 mbps for $40-$50 per month. In Japan, the cost of an average connection with the speed of 26 mbps costs about $22. 

The contrast is even more striking when expressed in terms of cost per 100 kbps. The top speed generally available in Japan is 51 mbps at a cost of $0.06 per 100 kbps. The top speed generally available in the U.S. is 6 mbps available at a cost of $0.72 per 100 kbps. 

In other words, the Japanese have 8.5 times the speed at 1/12 of the cost.


Soon we in the US will have this as well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>donjo<br />
January 19th, 2008 | 05:23<br />
RE: 70 a month for between 18 and 25mbps and a 400GB per month limit is and will do most of us quite well than you.</p>
<p>Where do you get the 400GB limit figure? anyone got a link to this? It is a slipper slope….next thing you know they will change more for less and less and the internet will die like aol did<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Just call your TW head office/corporate offices and talk to the techs. Bypass the regional ones as they cant find their heads with both hands and a road map.</p>
<p>The TW head office stated that they are going to set up the following tier and no this does NOT include your e-mails uploads or IM&#8217;s, just downloads</p>
<p>$45. a month<br />
6 to 7mbps  100gb max</p>
<p>$60. a month<br />
8 to 14mbps 250GB max</p>
<p>$70 a month<br />
18 to 25mbps 400gb max</p>
<p>$85 a month<br />
30 to 40 mbps 600GB max</p>
<p>$100 a month<br />
40 to 50mbps  750GB and up<br />
*this is ONLY for business, like GM and Hospitals and Colleges/Universities that need this kind of bandwith. To get this kind of speed, you will have to have a tech come to your site and set it up)</p>
<p>All of this is sorta moot anyway as there is a bill in Congress right now that is Veto proof when it goes up for debate this year. Once it passes, ALL ISP&#8217;s will be required to give high speeds at no less then 10mbps</p>
<p>You can read all about it at Speed matters<br />
<a href="http://www.SpeedMatters.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.SpeedMatters.org</a></p>
<p>I mean you Brits have got it made<br />
Plan for high speed Internet access for British students<br />
Posted by Speed Matters team | January 18, 2008 | </p>
<p>Jim Knight, the British minister of schools, is working with major British IT firms and parents to develop a plan to make sure every student in England has high speed Internet access, in part by requiring parents to provide it. Currently, there are more than one million children in England without home computer access.</p>
<p>Knight said that they are working with the IT companies to try and work out a deal to lower the cost of high speed Internet equipment if the access for over six million children becomes a requirement.  “Knight said there were ‘some crunchy negotiations ahead’ with the big firms but said the government could in effect procure millions of new customers for them.” He said he is trying to make high speed Internet access as regular for students as a pencil and piece of paper, and a vital part of education.</p>
<p>“The initiative is part of a major push which could also see the parents of every secondary school student given access to continuous online updates on their child&#8217;s lessons, performance and behavior as early as next year.”</p>
<p>In addition to the exponential educational benefits for the students, the parents would be given access to learning tools and progress reports to assist in their child’s learning. The compilation of weekly reports for parents is worrying to some in the teacher’s union because of a possible increase in work, yet the benefits that come from closer contact and communications with the parents makes the progress report a real possibility. But perhaps most importantly, making high speed Internet access available to all students will start to significantly narrow the digital divide.</p>
<p><a href="http://politics.guardian.co.uk/publicservices/story/0,,2235297,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://politics.guardian.co.uk/publicservices/story/0,,2235297,00.html</a></p>
<p>And look at the japanese<br />
In the U.S., DSL generally reaches speeds of up to 1.5 – 3.0 mbps at a price averaging $30-$50 per month (not including fees) while cable modems generally reach speeds of 3-5 mbps for $40-$50 per month. In Japan, the cost of an average connection with the speed of 26 mbps costs about $22. </p>
<p>The contrast is even more striking when expressed in terms of cost per 100 kbps. The top speed generally available in Japan is 51 mbps at a cost of $0.06 per 100 kbps. The top speed generally available in the U.S. is 6 mbps available at a cost of $0.72 per 100 kbps. </p>
<p>In other words, the Japanese have 8.5 times the speed at 1/12 of the cost.</p>
<p>Soon we in the US will have this as well</p>
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