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After watching a more liberal interpretation of drugs, the more serious show The Big Drugs Debate will balance out any doubts you have. The focus of the debate is aimed predominantly at young people and their experiences in relation to drug addiction. A variety of people have been invited to participate in the debate within the studio audience: as Russell states, from ‘professionals and boffins, to twits who can’t say no’.

The Big Drugs Debate is introduced and presented by television presenter, and ex-drug addict, Russell Brand. It takes place within a television studio with an audience of approximately 25 people. The aim is to debate and discuss four aspects of addiction drinking, including binge drinking, recreational drugs, impact on families and loved ones, and the proposition of ‘once an addict, always an addict’. A variety of people have been invited to participate in the debate within the studio audience: as Russell states, from ‘professionals and boffins, to twits who can’t say no’. Many, of different ages and stages, have arrived with their own experiences of being involved in drugs, knowing someone affected by drugs, or who work in the field with those affected on a daily basis by drug addiction. The focus of the debate is aimed predominantly at young people and their experiences in relation to drug addiction.

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  1. Jackpot
    January 27th, 2008 | 07:01

    lots of drugs!

  2. Cap'n Chronic
    January 27th, 2008 | 07:02

    Seems hilarious…

    Drugs arn’t bad :D

  3. Sample
    January 27th, 2008 | 07:06
  4. gavrielle
    January 27th, 2008 | 07:29

    I still say we should place a ton of hardcore drugs on every street corner and let those who can’t handle it die of over doses. The rest can be given menial tasks without much responsibility or pay, i.e. a cheap slave labor force controlled by mind altering substances. This way, everybody gets exactly what they deserve and the rest of us don’t need to waste our tax money supporting mindless drones or a useless prison system.

  5. zer0drew
    January 27th, 2008 | 07:52

    just what we need
    more tv shows to spread more overgeneralized stereotypes about diseases

  6. Yum
    January 27th, 2008 | 07:57

    Pity it’s Russell Brand presenting.

    Doubt he was ever an addict. He’s all show and the people just lap it up.

  7. snaggletooth
    January 27th, 2008 | 09:35

    If drugs make you end up like that gimp russell brand, Ive just given up for good.

  8. anonymous
    January 27th, 2008 | 09:41

    I just hope we continue to send a message to kids. Hey, teens, just remember that anecdotal evidence (especially from tv) is all you need to make decisions!

  9. Smoke 'Em If U Got 'Em
    January 27th, 2008 | 09:44

    @#4- Even better, we force mindless twats like you to work in the fields harvesting our buds. :P

  10. The Corrector
    January 27th, 2008 | 09:47

    “….and the rest of us don’t need to waste our tax money supporting mindless drones.”

    We already do. It’s called government.

  11. n00b
    January 27th, 2008 | 10:16

    my love - mary jane

  12. Unbreakable /Bmore
    January 27th, 2008 | 11:01

    Drugs are a biotch and not worth the withdrawl. Now as far as how they are classified; I would have to disagree. Weed (cannabis sativa) is not a drug, its for listening to Radiohead or Sublime while pounding down various types of junk food(munchies.) Now as far as Weed causing driving impairment; thats bullshiot. Like the commercial where a chick is driving in the middle of the night and hits an old man… Okay. What the F is a old man in a tuxedo doing walking around in the middle of the road at night in the first place?!? Now as far as the crowd you chill with when u smoke; that in itself determines whether or not you will start drugs or not. Now heroin.Thats a drug.

    -Unbreakable /Bmore

  13. Unbreakable /Bmore
    January 27th, 2008 | 11:01

    AHHH! post dang it!

  14. james
    January 27th, 2008 | 11:32

    Is it true with hardcore drugs when you come of them you lose bladder control and s**t for pants.

  15. sly
    January 27th, 2008 | 11:51

    most useless diuscussion ever….most people against drugs are so stuck in their silly little mindbends that no matter what truth comes out, they never chance their mind….

    I on the other hand am one of the millions of people who has gotten a BIG increase in life quality by using pot on a very regular basis…

    we’re supposedly a democracy, yet the man wants to throw my arse in jail fro smoking a reefer, while being much better informed about the effects than any policewanker or corrupt politician will ever be

    alcohol is a legal drug that causes more problems that all illegal drugs combined btw

  16. The Boondocks
    January 27th, 2008 | 12:49
  17. Mikeovic
    January 27th, 2008 | 15:05

    Again with the drugs, Mr. X? Not good… not good… better than your porno obsession, though

  18. BeatFreak
    January 27th, 2008 | 15:06

    Rapidshare Links

  19. l.y
    January 27th, 2008 | 15:09

    dealer links?

  20. Hatchet
    January 27th, 2008 | 16:22

    @12

    When it comes to driving while high on pot, it really depends on your tolerance. When I used to smoke very often, I could drive fine, and the worst that would happen is I would be more careful, and maybe drive under the speed limit.

    But now, since my tolerance is so much lower, if I smoked, I would be terrible on the road.

    I think a big difference between driving while drunk or while high is that when your drunk your more stupid and ignore if you feel incapable of driving, but when your high, your paranoid and wouldn’t want to get in a car if you felt like it was dangerous.

  21. gavrielle
    January 27th, 2008 | 17:30

    @9

    Another oh-so-clever response from another brain dead mindless drone. Toke your life away. And please, keep on living in your mom’s basement.

  22. Fem
    January 27th, 2008 | 17:49

    “.most people against drugs are so stuck in their silly little mindbends that no matter what truth comes out, they never chance their mind….”

    I don’t think so. At least, as a medical doctor I know why I am against drugs. Do you know why you are for it, other than you go around anaesthesised through life?

  23. jdizzle1337
    January 27th, 2008 | 19:21

    Ah yes the great paradox of capitalism “how do we keep the workforce productive and profitable without restricting basic freedoms?”. Obviously a prohibition on any drug flies in the face of an claim of “freedom” or “life,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”.

    The drug laws that currently govern the US where enacted mainly between 1914-1937; clearly not a modern age (the laws are almost a century old at this point) and at a time when the vast majority of the US was an uneducated backwater and couldn’t put two and two together that their government was corrupt beyond all belief and was tinkering with the US Constitution on a horrific level. There were 6 constitutional amendments passed in a 20 year period during this time frame if that gives you an idea, A LOT of tinkering was going on.

    The drugs were also banned in a very underhanded manner. The Harrison Act and Mar1juana Tax Act were created with the agreement in congress that certain authorized and regulated distributors would be allowed. They would be regulated and taxed by the federal government and issued a special tax certificate, this is a logical and fair approach so the legislation was agreed upon and passed. However the federal government simply refused to issue any tax certificates, thereby by possessing any drugs you were de facto guilty of a tax offense.

    The US government has spent roughly $400-$500 BILLION dollars from 1970-present enforcing US drug laws, this doesn’t even touch upon the cost of prisons and the people that go through them and the secondary and blowback effects that they have on society. In addition it creates racial fear and propaganda [ie the "black" cr4ck dealer, the "latino" coke kingpin, the "trailer park" m3th cooker].

    If people were absolutely honest with themselves they would understand that LEGALIZING AND REGULATING drugs removes the violent, lucrative, and dangerous black market that comes with prohibition. When was the last time you heard of a drive by because there wasn’t enough C0deine to go around? When was the last time you couldn’t drive through a neighborhood after dark because the latest oxyc0ntin shipment had arrived?

    This post is already long enough so i wont go into the completely ludicrous anti mar1juana laws, and why they are still in effect. Suffice to say that the people that sell Z0loft, Pax1l, V1agra, V1codin, Tyl3nol 3, Pr0zac, etc, etc, etc have a large interest in making sure that a curative herb (because herbs basically have no regulation, unlike prescription meds) never gains wide acceptance.

    It is very simple if you commit a crime while on drugs or to get drugs you should be prosecuted the same as someone who is not. If people could just get their heads out of the sand and realize that simple fact they would understand that there is no good reason for drugs to be illegal, however powerful drugs do need good regulation to keep them as safe as possible.

  24. asdf
    January 27th, 2008 | 19:57

    To say weed doesn’t cause driving impairment is bs… Zoning out in front of the wheel is not exactly safe. There’s also thinking you’re going really slow when you’re going really fast and vice versa. Timing is off etc. Sure some can get away with it, but don’t jump to conclusions. I’ve seen people that can’t even get out of their driveway without hitting something.

  25. spazmeat
    January 27th, 2008 | 20:39

    #24

    well, those people suck a driving. if you are a good/safe driver, you are usually a good/safe driver while high.

  26. Tim
    January 27th, 2008 | 20:58

    I’m the same way as the one dude. When I’m driving high it just means that I’m a better driver if anything. I only go the speed limit, I signal for everything and check everything all the time, etc.

    IMO the most dangerous way to drive is tired. I’ve nearly died a few times just from being drowsy on the highway and almost nodding off. Being high (on weed) doesn’t impair me at all.

    I’d be more afraid of the people who are pulling an all nighter. That should be illegal.

  27. gavrielle
    January 27th, 2008 | 23:10

    @23

    “Suffice to say that the people that sell Z0loft, Pax1l, V1agra, V1codin, Tyl3nol 3, Pr0zac, etc, etc, etc have a large interest in making sure that a curative herb (because herbs basically have no regulation, unlike prescription meds) never gains wide acceptance.

    So we should give up one kind of pharmaceutical for another just because you can’t name all the psychotropics in marijuana?

    There is nothing “curative” about marijuana except that it will temporarily take your blues away. And after it does that it will hit you with a severe depression that will screw with your head something fierce.

    Regulate it? Absolutely! But don’t kid yourself. It is a drug like any other you listed. It works on the brain just like crack, just like Zoloft, just like Aspirin, et. al.

    Oh, and the reason for those laws being instituted in the US was to stop companies like COKE-a-cola, PEP-si, and 7-UP which ALL contained cocaine from using a “non-alcoholic” beverage to distribute the drug to unsuspecting women and children, who were their primary customers. Until that time “Tonics” and “Cure-alls” of every kind also contained opiates as well. These drugs were killing people by the thousands every day in big cities and small towns, rich and poor alike.

    Drug addiction (unintentionally acquired addictions for the most part!) were rampant at the end of the 19th century and early 20th. And not only in the US, but throughout Europe. Our ancestors did their best to regulate and stop the pain being inflicted on the masses by greedy corporations and fly-by-night snake oil sales men, but as with many of the solutions implemented in those days, they often threw the baby out with the bath water.

    I’m not saying you are wrong about the drug companies of today being greedy swine, but don’t be dense. There had to be a huge social problem in the first place for the people of turn of the century America to agree to ANY regulation at all. Remember, these people would just as soon lynch a public official as vote for him if they didn’t like his policies. We may be politically uninvolved, but to our ancestors freedom meant life and government regulation meant death. That’s why there was so darn little of it until the 20th century!

  28. asdf
    January 28th, 2008 | 00:44

    @25

    Ever see someone get non-stop panic attacks when stoned? Or someone laughing so hard they can’t stop or even hold the wheel steady? Or someone tailgating someone all the way home because they’re fixated on the car in front of them?

    I’ve seen it and they sure as hell don’t do that when sober. Even if they’re good drivers, it just went out the window. I’m fine driving stoned, but weed as with any drug, effects people differently.

  29. gavrielle
    January 28th, 2008 | 02:40

    I smoked weed with few problems for more than 10 years. Sure, the occasional post-high mood swings got me, but I knew what those were and how to deal (I thought). Then one night (after a mere half a joint) I ended up in the hospital from a panic attack so powerful I hyperventilated and passed out. Thank god I wasn’t driving! I haven’t touched the stuff since.

    My point is, you can never be sure when or where or even if a mind altering substance will effect your brain chemistry negatively. Please don’t make assumptions when other lives - not just your own - may hang in the balance.

  30. SumDude
    January 28th, 2008 | 03:49

    can someone up to usenet, or rs prem, anyother 1 file dl sites. thanks ahead of time to the poster.

  31. iconocast
    January 28th, 2008 | 05:50

    u god dam stoners

  32. SHiCE
    January 28th, 2008 | 07:06
  33. Evileye
    January 28th, 2008 | 10:57

    Who ever does drugs has got to be a mug!! I was one of the big ones in the past… Now I have a 13 year old daughter, if i found anyone giving her drugs I would break thier necks and more.. Thank god I gave the **** up when i was young.

    Dont make the same mistakes..

  34. SumDude
    January 28th, 2008 | 16:45

    @SHiCE

    You are awesome! Thanks for the post mate.
    KeeP the Scene Alive.

  35. BeatFreak
    January 28th, 2008 | 17:27

    Tnx for the rs links SHiCE

  36. bish
    January 28th, 2008 | 19:02

    @SHiCE

    My hero! was hoping someone would find time to post some links, instead of rambling about their own love/hate relationship with big bad scary DRUGS.

  37. normal
    January 29th, 2008 | 15:37

    I think the opinions are different because you don’t mention the amount, and quality of TCH you usually smoke.

    I can perfectly imagine, that alcohol is dangerous, because you drink 2 bottles of tequila with champagne, then slide into the car, and go 200mph without even finding gear level 2
    is dangerous.

    I can flawlessly think, if you drink a glass of beer, and get in a car, you can drive safely, even if listening to metal-music, so it
    is safe.

    If you were the smokemeselftodeath type, who doesn’t consider the flavor of the stuff, and sample it before enjoying fully - then dude, you the same with everything else, drink, tv, and as overprotective father.

    Gavrielle’s history lesson about USA is interesting!
    But why we on the other side of Earth, a longtime feudal country switching immediateli to communism, then back be influenced by it? :(

    Peace
    Global Warming
    Shave the whales

  38. Fiona Maher
    January 31st, 2008 | 05:36

    I just wanted to say my brother used to smoke hash and even though i didnt go near it,i didnt see anything wrong with wat he was doing.The problem is he didnt stop at hash.He started doing pills,then coke and then he eventually he went onto heroin.I know you all think that you wouldnt be that stupid but he thought the same.He once told me that heroin was for scumbags but he still went on it.He has been in rehab for the last 18 months and doing really well but because of where he is i have met alot of families effected by drugs.I have met parents tat their children have only ever smoked weed and even though they dont smoke it now they have been left with longterm health problems so even though you think smoking weed isnt as bad as other drugs it is.The only difference between them is tat with heroin you see the effects straight away but with weed it can take years.

  39. oxycontin
    January 31st, 2008 | 17:23

    The quality of heroin has really dropped since the war in Afghanistan and ice gangs took over in Burma. Ice is the main problem these days. All the busts on growers in Australia has reduced the weed circulation, leaving ice and speed to fill the vacuum. A large proportion of teenagers in regional Australia have taken, or regulary use speed. I see them zipping around the place (usually to the ATM), grinding their teeth and looking uglier by the day.

    At least a joint would have just made those kids get the munchies, and at worst laugh uncontrollably.

  40. f
    April 19th, 2008 | 23:57

    Smoking cannabis is fine if you want to do it, however driving under the influence is not.

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