Comments on: Teacher on trial after cyberporn school lesson

By: zerone!

zerone! — Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:18:09 +0000

It’s not that I’m discontented in life, in fact I’m very happy. I have a wife and a child. I’m discontented in my country, and the world’s ignorant viewpoint of it.

I don’t think you were mindlessly preaching either, you were offering objective viewpoints.

I think I spoke the truth for most Americans, even if my view is subjective. Subjective views can still be true, who is closer to the source than someone inside it, someone who lives it?

I understand a lot of countries and peoples have their own problems. It seems as though they think everyone in America is hunky-dory, 1950’s, Leave it to Beaver brainwashed Pleasantville residents. I was simply trying to show what the world sees on television is not the way it is.

I have friends in Slavic countries that think America is a shining land of the rich, happy, powerful. I’m sure to them it is. Pay is very poor where they live, which is why they’ve produced some very great punk bands.

By: Boo

Boo — Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:19:02 +0000

I understand you’re living a discontented life, but, again, what country in the world doesn’t have its problems and a degree of discontent among its citizens? Germany, France, and U.K. may provide more sensible social benefits for their people, but they surely have some other issues to deal with as well. Just remember the recent civil unrest situation in the French suburbs if you need any examples of that. Hell, I lived the same life you just described back when I was in Europe.

As for my position, it has nothing to do with mindless preaching. I, plain and simple, just don’t like hearing insincere or otherwise inaccurate comments from people who either don’t pause to see how subjective and personal their judgment is, or, which is much worse, consciously choose to express their biased views without any regard to objective reasoning. No matter where your personal affinities lie, you have to try and get rid of your bias when making a logical argument. Otherwise the person who doesn’t share your view of the world will have no reason to listen to what you have to say.

By: Boo

Boo — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:46:23 +0000

‘The vast majority of readers agree that the US has made a name for itself’ also have no idea what they’re talking about. The judgment comes from overblown news stories and secondhand sources who tend to skew the facts and concentrate only on partial points of the event rather than on the whole picture. As I said, this story is a good example of what I’m trying to explain. One uneducated judge living in what can practically be called a village made a really bad call in regard to a local case that has nothing to do with the U.S. domestic policies. Your response? U.S. sucks. Great insight and extremely well-made and compelling argument. Another good example is your Silver Ring Thing reference. Again, I had to google it to know what you’re talking about, and, trust me, an overwhelming majority of Americans would do the same. Chastity vows all around the country? You have got to be kidding me. Just because a couple of hundred of Christian kids decide to abstain from sex until their complete maturation (by the way, I hardly see it as an immoral or even perverse decision, even though I don’t agree with it), it doesn’t mean that the whole country abolished sexual relationships as well. It’s like some of my fellow Americans (and a number of Europeans and Asians as well, to be fair) see a bunch of Muslim fundamentalists as definitive representatives of the whole Muslim population. Generalizations like this can get one in a world of trouble.

By: Mr. X

Mr. X — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 06:41:04 +0000

I enjoyed reading the replies. but you have to realize that the US is run by a bunch of zealot born-again christian faggots who are out on a rampage of filth and wrong doing. atheists FTW!

By: joe

joe — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 05:46:53 +0000

FFS… up to 40 years for showing porn?
that means all those people at LAN parties are going to jail for a long time haha.
but seriously, you get less time for killing someone in some countries.

By: Folly

Folly — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 04:29:15 +0000

Even if she is completely guilty, 40 years for indirectly exposing some high school kids to porn is rediculous.

By: Boo

Boo — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 03:38:19 +0000

You know, I wrote up a huge, really huge response for the New Zealander SoniKalien over there, and then I just decided that instead of arguing the key differences between the U.S. and New Zealand and their position on the global scheme of things, it’ll be much easier to point out that one of the reasons you don’t have anybody blowing your subways up is because you haven’t actually got any (At least not to my knowledge and I didn’t find any mentioning of New Zealand on the Wikipedia’s list of rapid transit systems.) From my point of view, New Zealand doesn’t quite measure up to the U.S. when it comes to the number and scale of the problems facing each country.

By: Spike

Spike — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:19:25 +0000

Well if she really was looking at porn, but here defense is that kids where looking at new-hair-styles-.com and pop ups where opening. When she went for help nobody jumped and and the teacher who was logged in said don’t log him out and other said to ignore them they happen from time to time.

But this waht makes me think she is getting screwed and everybody ignores that the computer in question was a Microsoft Windows 98 machine running an outdated version of Internet Explorer Web browser (IE 5.0), or that the school’s license for its firewall program expired prior to the date of the alleged incident. Likewise, the machine’s anti-virus software (Cheyenne Software) was expired and it lacked any anti-spyware tools. In short, the Windows 98 computer was completely exposed to the Internet without any kind of protection

By: beertaker

beertaker — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 01:42:38 +0000

USA is the greatest country in the whole world! NOOOOT!

By: mnml

mnml — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 01:13:30 +0000

11 + 9 ?

usa sucks

By: SoniKalien

SoniKalien — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:48:28 +0000

I’m from New Zealand (might have to google that too :p ) sure we have our political problems, but they pale in comparison next to USA’s – we don’t have anybody blowing our buildings / subways up, we aren’t at war or invading anybody (we do help clean up the resulting mess) we aren’t on anybodys side, and we sure as hell don’t live in fear of being sent to jail for 40 years for inadvertently spawning pr0n popups.

By: Ka0z

Ka0z — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:32:42 +0000

This is ridiculous. Time and time again these damn court rooms and the law in general don’t cease to piss me off. A computer, on the internet, that had a porn pop-up, ok wait, this is odd because…it happens like a million times a day. They need to take the prosecutors and beat them w/ a switch (those of you who don’t know a switch is a bunch of thin branches held together by tape or rope). And to the parents who filed against the school; you know they were just trying to get paid by suing the school.

Honestly, what parent hasn’t at one time or another had this happen in the privacy of their own home while a child was present; scares the crap out of you but it doesn’t make you a pervert or mean you intended to show them this. Ok enough of a rant but honestly my true hatred for the legal system is that, well, like the famous quote “better 100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man be incarcerated”, bs, how it really goes is “guilty until proven innocent”. I don’t hate cops because they abuse their power and treat everyone like criminals, i hate them because they represent a bs system of laws that no longer keep the innocent free but instead treat us all like equal criminals and make you worry bout your “freedom”.

By: Nuggler

Nuggler — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:55:35 +0000

“What’s with this US and A shit”

Its from the movie, Borat..

By: Boo

Boo — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:11:00 +0000

Sometimes I really wonder why I bother…

By: Kevin

Kevin — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 21:54:18 +0000

What’s with this US and A shit? It’s the US OF A. Not ‘and’… Idiot Europeans.

I’m not European because the 2×2 meter room I life in is not a part of it, period. I have my own country, political system and I even have my own continent which is called a continent because it is separated by thick walls with multiple layers of paint and wallpaper. I just wanted to point that out before any of you morons would come after me for pointing out what a bunch of morons you were. Morons! That only goes for everybody who ever said and/or thought about saying “US and A” by the way!