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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/spiralfrog-free-music-with-a-catch/comment-page-1/#comment-109887</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an ad funded model where you get free music legally from the UK called www.we7.com. Its backed by Peter Gabriel and is completely DRM free. The tracks work on all formats including the ipod. The catch? you listen to a 10 second audio ad at the beginning of the track, but to be honest it doesnt bother at all. There is no forced return to the site and no country restrictions. Also, the site is easy to use and artist friendly. I think its less about knocking Itunes off the perch, but giving artists a supplementary revenue stream. We get free music but artists still get paid with this model. I think Spiral has a long way to go, but since visiting We7 Iv totally gone off stealing music! check it out, we7.com
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an ad funded model where you get free music legally from the UK called <a href="http://www.we7.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.we7.com</a>. Its backed by Peter Gabriel and is completely DRM free. The tracks work on all formats including the ipod. The catch? you listen to a 10 second audio ad at the beginning of the track, but to be honest it doesnt bother at all. There is no forced return to the site and no country restrictions. Also, the site is easy to use and artist friendly. I think its less about knocking Itunes off the perch, but giving artists a supplementary revenue stream. We get free music but artists still get paid with this model. I think Spiral has a long way to go, but since visiting We7 Iv totally gone off stealing music! check it out, we7.com<br />
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		<title>By: a</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/spiralfrog-free-music-with-a-catch/comment-page-1/#comment-106675</link>
		<dc:creator>a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only nannas and teenyboppers buy ipods...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only nannas and teenyboppers buy ipods&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jvb</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/spiralfrog-free-music-with-a-catch/comment-page-1/#comment-106596</link>
		<dc:creator>jvb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Should they be forced to support every format out there? No. Especially when it would be Apple that would have to pay Microsoft licensing fees to decode Microsoft DRM.&quot;


Do some research.

Apple is still the nr.1 DRM &quot;lets lock everything in our own hardware and software&quot; abuser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Should they be forced to support every format out there? No. Especially when it would be Apple that would have to pay Microsoft licensing fees to decode Microsoft DRM.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do some research.</p>
<p>Apple is still the nr.1 DRM &#8220;lets lock everything in our own hardware and software&#8221; abuser.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/spiralfrog-free-music-with-a-catch/comment-page-1/#comment-106545</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fail to understand how Sprialfrog&#039;s service opens up Apple to antitrust litigation. Apple sells a product that plays both the universal MP3 standard and its own AAC. Should they be forced to support every format out there? No. Especially when it would be Apple that would have to pay Microsoft licensing fees to decode Microsoft DRM. 

Let me give you an analogy. Let&#039;s say I make a tire that fits on 25&quot; single-bolt race rims. Too bad, Ford doesn&#039;t make any car that can take those tires. However Ford is a massive car company. Should Ford be sued for anti-trust litigation because I purposely made a niche product? No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to understand how Sprialfrog&#8217;s service opens up Apple to antitrust litigation. Apple sells a product that plays both the universal MP3 standard and its own AAC. Should they be forced to support every format out there? No. Especially when it would be Apple that would have to pay Microsoft licensing fees to decode Microsoft DRM. </p>
<p>Let me give you an analogy. Let&#8217;s say I make a tire that fits on 25&#8243; single-bolt race rims. Too bad, Ford doesn&#8217;t make any car that can take those tires. However Ford is a massive car company. Should Ford be sued for anti-trust litigation because I purposely made a niche product? No.</p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/spiralfrog-free-music-with-a-catch/comment-page-1/#comment-106474</link>
		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do they even bother?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do they even bother?</p>
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		<title>By: jdizzle1337</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/spiralfrog-free-music-with-a-catch/comment-page-1/#comment-106429</link>
		<dc:creator>jdizzle1337</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes you can either use Spiral Frog or bitorrent...........hmmmmm its so hard to decide please help me. ROFL :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes you can either use Spiral Frog or bitorrent&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..hmmmmm its so hard to decide please help me. ROFL <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Emm</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/spiralfrog-free-music-with-a-catch/comment-page-1/#comment-106422</link>
		<dc:creator>Emm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@10, yes... any WM content can be unDRMed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@10, yes&#8230; any WM content can be unDRMed!</p>
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		<title>By: Gaius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All somebody has to do if they have Napster, Yahoo Music, or this SpiralFrog thing is to download FairUse4WM and take the DRM off the tracks. 

That way, you can download music legally off this Spiralfrog thing and keep it forever, free to use on whatever you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All somebody has to do if they have Napster, Yahoo Music, or this SpiralFrog thing is to download FairUse4WM and take the DRM off the tracks. </p>
<p>That way, you can download music legally off this Spiralfrog thing and keep it forever, free to use on whatever you want.</p>
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		<title>By: realblade</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/spiralfrog-free-music-with-a-catch/comment-page-1/#comment-106304</link>
		<dc:creator>realblade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to enter if you&#039;re not from USA or Canada : *for FireFox*

Install this extension : https://addons.mozilla.org/ro/firefox/addon/573

Enter the page, so it sets the cookies, the open Tools &gt; Cookie Editor and find the SpiralFrog cookie that says _Country or something like that, and edit your country with CANADA, as I didn&#039;t figured what they put for USA.

By realblade :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to enter if you&#8217;re not from USA or Canada : *for FireFox*</p>
<p>Install this extension : <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/ro/firefox/addon/573" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/ro/firefox/addon/573</a></p>
<p>Enter the page, so it sets the cookies, the open Tools &gt; Cookie Editor and find the SpiralFrog cookie that says _Country or something like that, and edit your country with CANADA, as I didn&#8217;t figured what they put for USA.</p>
<p>By realblade <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jvb</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/spiralfrog-free-music-with-a-catch/comment-page-1/#comment-106300</link>
		<dc:creator>jvb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EDIT nr3 (an edit button would be nice): the above should be &quot;works for *every* DRM scheme).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EDIT nr3 (an edit button would be nice): the above should be &#8220;works for *every* DRM scheme).</p>
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		<title>By: Capricedudde</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/spiralfrog-free-music-with-a-catch/comment-page-1/#comment-106299</link>
		<dc:creator>Capricedudde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your interest in our new Web site. Currently we have higher than expected demand and we are working to expand our capacity. Please try us again!
Copyright © 2007 SpiralFrog, Inc.

wtf?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your interest in our new Web site. Currently we have higher than expected demand and we are working to expand our capacity. Please try us again!<br />
Copyright © 2007 SpiralFrog, Inc.</p>
<p>wtf?</p>
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		<title>By: jvb</title>
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		<dc:creator>jvb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...or use a cable to connect your hardware output with your input (small quality loss, but works for DRM scheme).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;or use a cable to connect your hardware output with your input (small quality loss, but works for DRM scheme).</p>
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		<title>By: jvb</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/spiralfrog-free-music-with-a-catch/comment-page-1/#comment-106290</link>
		<dc:creator>jvb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hmm… I wonder. Can you transcode it to another format (aka convert it)? At that point does all that 60 day/2 copy crap still function?&quot;
No. that&#039;s just iTunes. 
If it&#039;s MS DRM, FairUse4WM or something like that should work.
Just visit doom9 forums ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hmm… I wonder. Can you transcode it to another format (aka convert it)? At that point does all that 60 day/2 copy crap still function?&#8221;<br />
No. that&#8217;s just iTunes.<br />
If it&#8217;s MS DRM, FairUse4WM or something like that should work.<br />
Just visit doom9 forums <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hatchet</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/spiralfrog-free-music-with-a-catch/comment-page-1/#comment-106286</link>
		<dc:creator>Hatchet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;I&quot; in Ipod stands for idiot.  Why pay for an overpriced mp3 player when there are many cheaper mp3 players out there that do the exact same thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;I&#8221; in Ipod stands for idiot.  Why pay for an overpriced mp3 player when there are many cheaper mp3 players out there that do the exact same thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Thraprod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thraprod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... I wonder. Can you transcode it to another format (aka convert it)? At that point does all that 60 day/2 copy crap still function?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; I wonder. Can you transcode it to another format (aka convert it)? At that point does all that 60 day/2 copy crap still function?</p>
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