SP3 for Windows XP speeds up the whole system
Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3), the update scheduled to release next year, runs Microsoft Corp.’s Office suite 10% faster than XP SP2, a performance testing software developer reported Friday. Devil Mountain Software, which earlier in the week claimed Windows Vista SP1 was no faster than the original, repeated some of the same tests on the release candidate of Windows XP SP3, the service pack recently issued to about 15,000 testers. “We were pleasantly surprised to discover that Windows XP SP3 delivers a measurable performance boost to this aging desktop OS,” said Craig Barth, Devil Mountain’s chief technology officer, in a post to a company blog Friday. According to the Office performance benchmarks, Windows XP SP3 is also considerably faster than Vista SP1. ”
None of this bodes well for Vista, which is now more than two times slower than the most current builds of its older sibling,” said Barth. Microsoft has at times struggled to wean users from the six-year-old Windows XP and get them to migrate to Vista. During 2007, for example, it made several XP concessions, including adding five years to the support lifespan of the Home edition and extending OEM and retail sales of XP through June 2008, as it recognized that customers wanted to hold on to the older OS. That’s definitely good news for all users like me who decided to stay with not so problematic Windows XP. I guess Vista will become usable too, but it will take few Service Packs…
Source: PC World
Another reason why not to get Vista. The performance gap between Vista and XP grows. Why spend your hardware for OS?
I’m using Windows Vista and I’ve gotta’ say, I’m almost convinced on returning to Windows XP. Microsoft is showing more promise sticking with XP than they are with their most recent operating system.
I’m sure Vista is much better at it’s core.
Because this is Microsoft we are talking about, I’ll probably move on to Vista at SP 2 (Then I can assure you it’ll be good).
the problem also is that when you buy a new PC these days, it automatically has Vista installed. Even if you want XP. So you pay for Vista, while you want xp.
@Pytt
Who buys a computer with an OS pre-installed?
It’s almost always a crappy install.
well, most stores sell it with OS pre-installed.
reply to Pytt
not necessarily , if you build your rig you dont need to buy vista plus u get a better deal on the hardware .
true
And 10% faster? What did they do, remove any remaining security that was slowing down your system? They’re not viruses or spamware, they are now called “involuntary community-developed resource sharing” which you agreed to install on your machine in exchange for a lower rate.
/What do you expect with Vista when they keep rewriting their OS?
but not on notebooks… :/
‘ runs Microsoft Corp.’s Office suite 10% faster than XP SP2 ‘
So what’s the benefit to the OS itself ……apart from security fixes etc ???
Can’t stop wondering when DX10 will be published for XP…I know it isn’t supposed to but it will…eventually
there are some wite that has leaked SP3 already. are those safe to install?
They are beta versions of SP3 and i dont recommend you use them, the latest leaked beta caused my drivers to fail and firefox to not work.
I had to re-install windows.
It’s about time to get some speed up…linux is getting faster nad Vista is geeting slower stone age is just around the corner
get yout PC with Windows NT (neanderthal technology)
http://home.swipnet.se/majkshemsida/pics/bilder/NT4.JPG
I am sure we all know that lots of surprises have been put here to make XP bad thus more people buying and changing to Vista. I am not sure if it’s even safe to install this thing. Why would they make XP even better, to stop people from buying Vista? There must be something in there, giving more frequent errors maybe, lol.
People are already working on DX10 for not only XP, but also Linux and OSX.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070424-project-aims-to-bring-dx10-gaming-to-xp-linux-os-x.html
The future’s so bright, you gotta dim your screen.
Not confirmed, but rumor has it, Windows XP SP3 installs a new activation method, so you will end up with 30 days of use, if you don’t activate online, phone microsoft.
Another rumor has it, that Microsoft will activate this new method in SP3 after everyone has installed it. Meaning, install the new code for now, but turn it on later, via windows automatic update services…
We all know microsoft isn’t about to give up it’s WGA anti piracy strategy. For all those upgrading to SP3, this gives Microsoft yet another method to convert you to vista, or pay them for license fees…
Maybe someone could unpack all the updates in SP3, find the activation code, remove it, and then repack this for the rest of us?
Funny, I used to think that my XP sp2 was way better than Vista for a good time… one day I started messing with my brand new PC which had home premium in it, it was slow as hell nothing works right etc. But the a miracle happened a firend of mine said “try 64bit Vista ultimate”, so I did install new Vista and what do you know it’s awesome. Way faster than my old XP and everything works and I mean EVERYTHING that I have (some stuff didn’t even work on XP). I’m never going back in time when the wheels were square.
IMO Vista ultimate is the first good thing M$ have ever done, but that’s just my 2 and a half cents…
Why take the chance accd?
Just wait for an official release (or for a legit site to post it *eg: majorgeeks).
Vista sure is a resource hog. I’m still using XP on my work machine and will continue to do so as long as possible.
And on a side note:
Why has this site become so sloooowwww? Its almost too painful to bother browsing nowadays…
@Question.
If it is true, there are already sites that let you install the updates you want and forget the others. You shouldn’t have automatic updates on anyways (if you’ve got a pirated version).
Even a legit version lol. Who wants things done by MSN automated?
Back to what you were saying… sites like autopatcher http://www.autopatcher.com/ will probably have SP3 available when it’s out and save you the trouble of phoning home issues.
Vista is the worst OS ever to be released. The User Account Control, and yes I know you can disabled it, which I have done, is the most recognised annoying feature ever. Click on any program and you get the annoying ‘Do you really wanna do that’ question, you click yeah?!!!! and another annoying flash pops up asking if you are really really sure.
It won’t update some critical updates…runtime update for Windows Media 11 a prime example, most XP progs won’t work, different version of the same OS, but with a few more fookin tweaks, and a darn site more fookin money.
Microsoft and the monkey-boys Gates and co are takin the piss out of the common man with their over-bloated, over-priced software.
My XP desktop is far more stabler(?) and faster than the Vista one we have, and that machine has a better processor and better RAM. Hell I got an old PC with Win98 which tends to work fine, with a 300mhz processor and 64mb of RAM! Yes that was MegaHertz!
Viva the revolution!!
What the same autopatcher that you cant get any updates for anymore, cos of Micro$haft. Have you been in a coma ?
I agree that Vista is poo. But my machine is 3 yrs old now, so it will be.
I think you have to sit back and think for a minute tho, I bet if you could find old forums etc when XP came out, that it will be exactly the same comments….
Ive gone back to Win98se, Ive gone back to Windows 2000…blah blah….
I think people forget all the crap they said about XP when it came out, thats all…
You must be a Vista fanboi “winblows” because how you determine what is better, by stating “everything” just works better, is pure lies, unless only your test was almost nothing, such as opening Notepad application only.
First x64 bit isn’t supported much at all, and that means most of your devices will NOT work at all. Secondly, if you want your software to work on x64 bit, name the 64bit applications yours using! This will be a small limited list for sure…
The rest of us, cannot even use or install 64 bit operating system when we only have 32 bit hardware! Meaning, most software available is mostly for 32 bit applications, which cannot take advantage of 64 bit processing at all.
It’s the same with multicore CPU’s, as most applications do NOT fully support multi-core technologies at all. You end up just paying more for something you cannot use today.
Multicore technologies were never seriously considered by microsoft, and is why NO microsoft software application is sold as multicore ready…
Heck Microsoft cannot even play for sure, in the music media scene, and you think multiple cores are supported by them?
Here’s a question for you…
How many software applications are available for multicore, on x64 bit Vista? None…
As for XP, it also has x64 version, and still after so many years, it too is NOT supported much at all…
At least with XP x64bit, you can increase your ram memory, but most of us still don’t use 2GB of ram for XP anyhow…
So by all means go out and buy Vista x64 bit, install 4TB of ram memory, as you own the bank, and then hire all the best programmers to write you new applications, and have them work with Intel or AMD to figure out how to multitask your multiple cores…
Seems like a lot to ask just to use Vista x64 bit, doesn’t it?
Linux would be much better to invest, as then everyone else could afford “FREE”, which would drive the software industry to create them applications, for everyone…
ill try
HigherIQ, when people tell you you have a high IQ and you’re smart, they are being sarcastic..
Thanks you for the info and the sp3… but do anybody has trouble running the installer?… looks like mine is stuck in the part that say… finalizing install…
Any info about this?
Thanks!
I’m using Vista ultimate 64bit now, and For Winblows…you’re wrong.
I build a new rig, and decided to try vista(4*3ghz, 4gig ram, 1,2tb :-)), and i have no problems with vista. Most 32bit programs work on 64bit nowadays. Even 32bit deamon tools, and such. Only programs that don’t work are old games that use a 16bit installer!. If you go to http://www.firingsquad.com, they had a test, showing that vista is only 1% slower then xp in games now. I look at the comments most people leave here, and i wonder..have you tried the os for more then 20mins ? Sure, not as easy as xp to navigate, but you’ll get used to it.
Man, all these people jumping on the hype wagon.
First - I dual boot XP SP2 and Vista Ultimate, both 32bit, and in real life situations, have not found any difference between the two performance wise. If you’re finding Vista slow, then either you have a slow pc or you’re a n00b.
Second - Sure, Vista needs a SP. It does have a few bugs. However, Vista has a lot more features that I use regularly so it is now my main OS.
Lastly - Linux is far from the perfect OS. Its bugs are usually far more obvious than ‘doze. I have installed and tried to use various incarnations of it. My latest Ubuntu build (on my old pc) picked up all the hardware and installed ‘drivers’ for it, but doing something as simple as changing the screen resolution to 1024×768@85hz is nothing short of challenging at best.
It’s high time everyone started making up their own minds and finding things out for themselves instead of following improperly written articles and media hype like mindless sheep.
BTW, If you think Vista was rushed or poorly coded, just think about any application or game made in the last year or so. Almost immediately a patch will come out for it, if the devs care enough to actually fix it.
I can remember how much PC’s slowed down with SP2 for xp. Now I know alot of you are running SP2 right now and so your thinking I’m crazy, but trust me, I had so many clients pissed after windows auto installed SP2 and their PC was drastically slower. So SP3 making things faster is a good thing. Althought I really thought they would make SP3 take a huge crap on your PC so that people would be unhappy with their XP and say, you know I heard that vista came out, and newer is better right, and better is faster right? ( Heard alot of people say that with XP ) And so people buy vista because their PC was turned into a huge dog turd over night because of SP3. So I’m glad to see that MS wasn’t feeling that evil when they made SP3.
@26.
I’m not a fanboy lol, I actually used to hate the damn Vista and I said everything that I (me) have works…
So far every 32bit application has worked just perfect, on the other hand some of them didn’t work on 64bit XP…
Some software I’m running:
Sonar 7 PE
Cubase SX3
Wavelab 6
Crysis (both 32 and 64 works exactly same)
Resident Evil 4
Deus Ex 1
PowerCinema (way better than windows meda center imo)
PaintshopPro X2
San Andreas
FRAPS
And lots more… almost every program is 32bit and works just great and guess I’m lucky then since I’ve got my drivers 64bit for my hardware :/… and for memory I have 4gb and seems to be more than enough for now… 2gb would probably be enough…
WinXP FTW!!
@1 “Another reason why not to get Vista. The performance gap between Vista and XP grows. Why spend your hardware for OS? :o”
Wonna battle who gets the best performance? My vista vs. your xp? Benchmark points?
@35 Agreed
A good set-up and tweaked vista is in par with XP performance-vise, and after a little prefetching - it’s actually a little faster when running apps. Memory managment is way better than in XP.
Using WinXP x64 and I really don’t see ANY reason why I should migrate to vista.
XP is fast, XP is stable, XP is secure (with thirdparty software) and there is no game that benefits from dx10 (no crysis doesn’t!)
Vista is just like ME, OS without ANY use.
“do you really want to do that?” is easily removed.
and no I don’t have vista, just good old xp ( also dos 6.22 but ok :S )
To me it’s like you’ve used Vista for 20 minutes and didn’t even set it up (Nags ? Prompts ? Disable UAC! Like - 30 seconds of work). Sidebar is one of the add-ons to vista, and it’s actually usable (I like my calendar-appointment gadget, notes, weather, and photos of my girlfriend), and there are dozens of them more.
Improvements are not there where you’ve looked for those 20 minutes - they are way deeper in the OS (new Audio and Graphic stack OUT OF THE KERNEL - at last!)
New search function (very usable to me)
and many others, but you will always say that Vista isn’t worth it because
a) you either can’t/wan’t to actually configure and tweak it
b) because it has higher hardware req. than XP (yup. XP’s requirements are 6 years old! Nowadays you buy dual/quad-cores with 2GB+ Ram for THE SAME price as 6 years earlier a decent rig for XP)
c) You think performance is worse in vista than in XP (FUD -> read some NEW benchmarks - no performance hit in games or with an error margin of 2-5%)
d) it’s new -> it’s BAD
e) ? -(insert Vista-flaming here)-
Oh, and I disagree that Vista is ME, because ME wasn’t stable AT ALL (or it was stable for a few days/weeks after fresh install), and it was just 98 without anything new besides icons, hidden dos and scandisk/checkdisk which ran in Windows rather than the old-dos version at boot-up.
Vista has way more changes that you actually see -rebuilded kernel (with kernel protection for x64) -new audio and graphic stacks, new rendering/display modes (GPU rendering and ye olde 2D-CPU based), and many, many more.
XP 32 might be stable (for MS standards), but XP 64 is simply a joke.
It’s completely broken and MS honestly did nothing to fix it (it still has the most crippled build libs ever).
I absolutely dislike Windows, but if you really need a 64 Windows system, by all means, use vista…
Just a heads up, some places around the net have the registry hack info to get on the SP3 beta without having to download it from sites or sources you’re iffy about.
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/11/23/download-windwos-xp-sp3-with-a-registry-hack/
I’m not really one for dabbling into betas anymore for operating systems since I enjoy the stability on my desktop these days.
Wonder what additional hidden DRM checks SP3 adds to XP. Not to mention some new phone features to help redmond’s databases.
i download SP3 of WIN XP. there no activation problem and the the size of SP3 is 336MB.
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28 November - Feast Of Love
04 December - The Brave one
06 December - Lions For Lambs
11 December - Elizabeth The golden Age
13 December - The Seeker The Dark is Rising
27 December - Hitman
28 December - Saw IV
R1 Release Dates
18 December: Halloween
26 December: Rush Hour 3
And there are 2 TC’s of the heartbreak kid and Lions for Lambs floating around waiting for some group to sync with english audio.
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“..runs Microsoft Corp.’s Office suite 10% faster than XP SP2″
Was there mention of whether it will be faster with non-MS software?
“During 2007, for example, it made several XP concessions, including adding five years to the support lifespan of the Home edition and extending OEM and retail sales of XP through June 2008, as it recognized that customers wanted to hold on to the older OS.”
It’s good to see that Microsoft is FINALLY looking at what the customers want.
@PrEzi: It’s an unfinished OS and, seeing the benchmarks and incompatibility with almost EVERYTHING, clearly not an improvement over XP (yet). Tweaking and configuring doesn’t fix bad code, even a blind f*nb*y should see that. Vista will be my nr. 1 choice if:
A.) There is no support for XP from MS OR any other source.
B.) When it runs all apps and games.
One or two servicepacks (or patches as they should be called) should do this, but that will take over a year. Untill then, why bother with a lump of smelly cr*p when I have a polished gold nugget?
XP Pro will be supported all the way to 2013.
So M$ is making XP even faster with SP3 and leaving Vista in the dust … and it needs to sell Vista… it seems to me there’s something fishy here. I wouldn’t be surprised with a dramatic inversion when the final SP3 ships.
using Vista64x since august this year, and I’m yet to have 1 single virus, while I had to reinstall my old XP at least once in 6months. Before I even tried it I wasn’t so positive about the new os. Anyway, I made my choice because of directx10 and the price (its the same as for XP).
Every hardware which I used with XP works perfectly with vista, I’ve dozens of programmes working fine and I had only 2-3 softwares that didn’t.
the people that are complaining about vista are probably the same people that complained about xp when it came out…they just like to complain. Personally i have no probs with my vista x64 ultimate, although in some cases it is slower then xp. But if i really need my system at its fullest i boot up linux.
And about UAC, lol never have problems with it, but i guess i know how to use it, every program i can run fine although others complain about it not getting their software to run. Best to do when you dont know how to operate your operating system;-) is to try dos first and learn something and maybe after a while you will be smart enough to run, windows, linux, mac:P
Here at $M (spelling on purpose), we extend, embrace, extinguish. Unfortunately, some end users seem to think this American capitalist method is anti-competitive behavior…
And yet, others even go so far as to suggest here at $M we actually, apply our strategy for entering product categories involving widely used standards, extending those standards with proprietary capabilities, and then using those differences to disadvantage its competitors.
In addition, another marketing strategy of $M is a sale of Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) tactic you get to hear from those who are jealous of us and our profit margins!
The truth is, we are NOT in this to make money, it’s just something for fun, helping people like you and I.
It should make no difference, all of our $M (draconian stipulations) software is ALL proprietary source code. That just insures your safety and protection folks.
There is nothing wrong with $M “XAML” markup language, positioned to replace HTML (the current industry standard for publishing language on the Internet), which is designed from the ground up to be dependent on Windows.
It doesn’t matter, that $M Office 2007 has also introduced the Open XML file format (OOXML), by which Microsoft seeks to displace ODF, the existing ISO approved, truly open document file format.
It doesn’t matter that Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has claimed that the Linux OS (operating system) infringes on his firm’s intellectual property too. And yet, NEVER has $M made public any FACTS, not even one snippet of code.
However, MICROSOFT HAS had a long, a very long history of litigation, court orders, patent infringements and antitrust lawsuits against it since the very beginning of its history. The surprising thing is not only the number of those lawsuits against Microsoft – at one time, it had more than 130 pending – but more importantly, the sheer amount of money it represents. Microsoft Corporation has been ordered to pay nearly $9 billion as of Thursday 14 July 2005. Just imagine since then how much more $M has been found guilty!
Though Microsoft is keen to emphasize the fact that they are not guilty of any wrongdoing in many of the lawsuits, they would prefer to pay rather than anything else. This has lead some observers to speculate that fines has been a way to “oil” the progress of Microsoft.
By the way, Windows XP SP3 does check your product key. In addition, there is a new activation scheme, a new Network Access Protection Module, Microsoft Kernel Mode Cryptographics Module and a Black Hole Router detection algorithm.
What we don’t know, we tend NOT to be concerned about, but given the past history of the NSA, we can certainly assume there does exist a backdoor hidden in $M operating systems…
On the other hand Linux is open source code, allowing public review by all… and it’s FREE!
Linux works on older PC and NEW… and it has been given FREE from a student if you recall… just as all innovation is always built upon prior innovation.
Here at $M, we sell you a crippled OS and you admire us for giving you crutches with constant patches and service packs.
Just keep buying our stuff. It’s better that you NOT learn, and instead become dependent upon us. By all means hate Linux for being FREE, so selfish they are for that…
Don’t share, don’t build upon, just upgrade what we offer to sell…
And all those XP lovers, dump your PC, go out and buy, buy another new PC to run Vista… because it’s “new” and “wow” with all the new features you all been waiting for…
Whatever you do, don’t read what security experts tell you, like Bruce Schneier http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/02/drm_in_windows_1.html
or
Peter Gutmann http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/%7Epgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
i used vista for 4 days.
something as stupid as the UAC should not even be in the OS, so why are you people defending it because it’s easy to turn off?
why did i have to choose to run half my programs as administrator when since i was able to choose that option i was already clearly the administrator???
i could go on but it’s pointless - i’ve learned the hard way that vista sucks. i hope your lesson is painless.
@52, awesome post. and i’m not a linux guy
camino ftw
I also tried Vista, hoping for something better, but was disappointed. I did NOT agree to the EULA terms, and sought a refund. Upon contacting the retailer, the manufacture and Microsoft, none of them honored this legal binding agreement to afford my refund, so I just returned the entire whole complete computer…
I had enough.
i like XP because it’s much easier to install the warez version than Vista
@53 no dummy you are not supposed to turn it off, you are even not supposed to run as administrator(but i guess you dont know what administrator means) its kinda like login as root on your linux box….but anyway its in your best interest not even to try dos, but just stick to pen and paper………..
What r benefits of vists?
only one q…
s=a
sorry
zenk u
oh silly me for thinking that as the only user of my computer i should be running as admin(like every other single OS i’ve ever used since zx spectrum days). i guess i should let MS decide whats best for me, right?
you sir are an idiot.
Hmmmm. Either there are lots of Vista fans here or one really lonely Vista lover posting over and over again.
All I know is I know a lot a people with Vista and all of them hate it. And for that one guy who thinks I’m lying, enjoy your lonely little world.
I was at two MS dealer convention this month and 5 out of 300 people supported it when they asked for a show of hands on who is implementing it. They guy was actually being heckled. So if you think Vista is doing well? Think again. When dealers don’t support it, they wont recommend it to their clients. When their clients are told to wait, they see that online there’s a consensus on this opinion. And when reviews of SP1 are doubting any improvements, it’ll only continue doubt.
M$’s initial sales of Vista have already dropped-off. The obligatory hardware sales boom for a new version of Windows has fizzled. One benefit is we have lots of discounted overstocked hardware available. At least Vista was good for something.
If you want service pack 3,copy and paste this to txt file save as XPSP3.bat
@echo off
reg delete HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\XPSP3 /f 2> NUL
reg add HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\XPSP3 /v RCPreview /t REG_SZ /d 1c667073-b87f-4f52-a479-98c85711d869 /f
echo XPSP3 registry key has been set. Please check for updates in Windows Update.
pause
Found on softpedia.
whoops,forgot . then run XPSP3.bat ,you might have to reboot a couple of times,then run windows update.
This is seriously Good News. Hope that these jokers don’t think that this is a bug and remove it.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Hack-Available-to-Download-Windows-XP-SP3-RC-from-Microsoft-71549.shtml
As the saying goes…
Linux is not Windows, and neither is Vista. Vista breaks Windows =)
These days, it’s a good idea to keep XP along with your favorite linux distro. With both installed, you get the best of both worlds.
If You wont Vista look just get your self Vista Inspirat 2 !
http://www.crystalxp.net/news/en181-vista-inspirat-ultimate-2-brico-pack.html
VISTA LOOK + XP SPEED
@For Winblow
You must be an idiot to think that you can run 64-bit application on a 32-bit hardware. GTFO, scrub!
Plus, old great games, like Baldur’s Gate, won’t work on Vista!
That alone makes sure, that I won’t install Vista until I HAVE TO. Period.
The worst system is XP 64bit version! This is an incomplete OS that Microsoft rushed to release it! It’s really not a true 64bit system and Microsoft support for it is almost nonexistent! This system was born dead! LOL! The first true 64bit OS is Vista64 (the most stable system that Microsoft has ever offered to users!)
I have one machine at work running Vista (mainly for testing purpuses) but my home machine still runs XP.
I do agree with some comments here, when XP came out the exact same scepticism occurred but everyone made the switch anyway, as will happen with vista over time.
The only real beef i have with Vista is the interface (which you can disable _almost_ completely, but not quite enough) and older hardware drivers, sure this is the manufacturers problem but this doesent mean it can be shrugged away.
It’s obvious here that Microsoft is paying many Indians in India and anywhere else to blog positive comments for Vista, as the rest of us all know a different reality about Vista.
Lame methods of stating how XP came out everyone experienced the same issues as Vista… Where were you then, as it wasn’t like that at all…
Nobody had to buy the best new computer to just use XP like Vista, and certainly nobody had all them DRM restrictions over media content like Vista does…
But, of course these fanboi types want everyone to think otherwise, in that it is really okay to spend the most money on a new computer and for the operating system, that you hope can use your already paid for software investment…
Ah ha.. sure thing…
Stick with XP Pro I say until something really has something better to offer than all “wow” hype.
I don’t know where these people find their writers but it would be nice if they hired people who actually have something intelligent to say to write articles about technology.
Vista’s problem has nothing to do with XP itself and everything to do with the fact that it doesn’t offer enough advantages to make the purchase worthwhile.
My brother bought Vista for around 100 euros.
When it came and he showed me it,I thought the changes were cosmetic,nothing very exciting.Most reviews i have seen about Vista have confirmed that.
I felt sorry for him because he has a crap dvd player and i thought he could have bought a new one with the money he spent on Vista instead.
I had Vista Ultimate for about a year and when I first loaded it up, I was pretty amazed at the way it looks. But eventually I noticed everything ran slower. I thought it was just me. It got to a point where startup was 5 minutes (yes I timed it) and I only had about 4 cpu intensive programs (Adobe PS CS3, Supreme Commander, Maya, C4D) I would never run any of these programs with other ones. I got sick of the slowness and switched to Windows xp lite and was grateful for its speed.
Pretty much, wait till the service packs come out for vista before you get it. It has a lot of bugs as well.
@76
maybe you need to upgrade your pc? new OS=new pc.
I bought vista with dual core and 2gb ddr2, and it takes
about 55 seconds from the moment I press the startup button untill I can start FireFox
@77
Give Jumi a break! If after a year he isn’t happy, he ought to know from having tried 365 days! Geez!
On the other hand all you seem to care about is how fast an empty operating system loads… without loading into memory your applications.
Notice how you need 2GB of ram memory! Heck my old laptop with XP boots up in about 60 seconds using a 1.8Ghz P4 CPU with just 512MB ram memory…
And there are more than 20GB of applications on that Laptop.
Vista is crap and you know it. Telling everyone you got to have a Intel Duo 2 Core with 2GB or ram just to turn on your computer, isn’t impressive at all.
On the other hand, Linux rules, as you don’t need to spend the bank here to boot up an operating system. And unlike Windows, Linux can boot from CD/DVD/USB/eSATA and Network, without being told it’s illegal to do so…
In addition, unlike Vista bloatware, Linux is more efficient and stable, smaller and obviously way cheaper, as it’s legal to download it for FREE…
Vista = $$$ ransomware (with DRM limitations and restrictions)
Haha, Mac OS X > Vista, XP and all the other crap..
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3731088/TinyXP_rev06
I still think TinyXP says it all about the operating system. That you can have it under 1 gigabyte install and run it at that. It also proves that the more Micro$haft adds the bulkier it becomes.
Linux does the whole Live CD thing. Windows Vista DOESN’T do the whole Live CD thing and we will leave it at that. XP all the way. For the time being. Either that or go to Linux and the whole virtual machine deal.
<— waiting for axxo release of SP3.
“I guess Vista will become usable too”
Vista is already usable - this guy needs to open his dictionary.
The fact that XP outperforms Vista is a given –
a) Vista is using the hard drive more than XP - some low I/O operations that are scheduled (like defragging), and then there’s Superfetch. Despite that, if you give Vista some time to learn about your habits, Superfetch will begin to *increase* performance.
b) XP is full 2D and renders through DirectDraw. Vista combines 2D and 3D and renders through Direct3D.
You cannot compare these two operating systems: It’s like comparing Ubuntu with eyecandy installed (forgot what it’s called, but Linux Mint has it preinstalled) to Xubuntu. The latter will perform better.
Both Linux Mint and Xubuntu use the Linux kernel (same as Windows XP and Windows Vista being the same at their core), and yet, if you were to measure their performance, Xubuntu would come out on top.
The problem with Windows is that many programs, when installing them, unnecessarily add themselves as services. This doesn’t happen as much in Linux, and is not a problem with MS, but with software developers.
You’re all a bunch of prats if you think MS is doing anything for any of you. They’re in it for the money. There is no real market for Linux and Mac users bought a Mac for specific reasons. PC owners and the General Public are stuck with whatever crap microsoft dishes out. So here’s a though, wake up and start demanding better service and a better product because this monopoly of M$ofts of actually in a counter-productive state of mediocrity. Vista or XP? If you’re system can perform well enough to support Vista good for you, but don’t piss on other people who can’t use Vista yet or perhaps don’t want to use Vista yet. After all, we’re talking about software that is still in it’s Beta stages and will continue to be until microsoft decides to make an all new OS in which case they’ll actually finish upgrading Vista to a semi-stable version and then abandon it for their new lucrative OS which will not only provide better graphics and multimedia performance enhancements, but it will also perform oral sex on you.
You’re all ridiculous if you think the big “M” gives steaming pile of crap about any of you. Profits and margins, and profit margins are all they give flying flu-flu bird about.
XP is just starting to work properly and now they M$oft expects people to waste even more money on a new system (hardware & software) and upgrade to their latest OS so that the general public can do mundane things like check their email, show off their privates via webcam over MSN, and upload their latest video to YouTube of Beethovens 5th redone in armpit farts to the key of C-splatter.
If you’re reading this and have never had a problem with Windows then you’re one of those poofters who bought a computer just so you could watch the screensaver and because it added a certain decorum to the rest of your living area.
Anyone else who has put up with the -years- of bugs, bologne, and bull-feces understands exactly what I’m talking about.
Personally I think we should get more for our money but some ding-dongs don’t seem to give a damn or don’t mind settling for an unfinished product. Would you buy a painting that is only half finished? Pay full price for a large pizza only to find that half of it’s been eaten? Buy a pair of shoes only to find out that you’ll receive the second shoe once you’ve worn in the first one?
You wanna go out and buy Vista, a piece of software that can be described as Craptacular at best (a title that was reserved for XP but they recently moved it up to almost-work-worthy), that’s great. But if you wanna hoot and holler about it and promote it for microsoft as if it were the next coming of Christ then you might as well be giving the VP’s and new CEO of M$oft a free handjob.
Keep up the great work M$oft, I’ll be dead before you create a fully functional OS but at least you have a world full of beta testers at your whim and beckon.
numpton
thanks for the hack info but save it as WinXPS3RC.cmd file–MS gave it to me as canidate #1 lol. I found it a little faster running prog like nero7. gl all