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Sony removes 80GB version of PS3 from shelves

Posted on 28.01.2008 at 13:16 in Tech News by Martin

A memo to Best Buy employees indicates that Sony may be discontinuing the 80GB model of its PlayStation 3, leaving no backwards-compatible versions of the PS3 on store shelves. According to the memo, Best Buy and some other reatilers will stop selling the $499 PS3 on January 28. Sony late last year stopped selling the 60GB version of the PS3, the only other version of the console that was backwards-compatible with PlayStation 2 games. This memo only affects North American gamers, as the UK and Japanese markets have already moved to a single-SKU model (the 40GB PS3).

If Sony removes the 80GB PS3 from store shelves and ceases all production of that model, there will no longer be a new-SKU PS3 that plays PS2 games. The 60GB PS3, long since gone at retail, used hardware to enable PS2 games to play on the PS3. The 80GB version, which is apparently on its way out, used software emulation to enable playback for many, but not all, PS2 games. With both versions gone, the question begs to be asked: is Sony working on yet another version/configuration of the PS3 that will support PS2 playback, or is it leaving consumers high and dry with their PS2 game libraries?

Source: Dailygame, Techspot

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  1. Bill
    January 28th, 2008 | 13:20

    SONY PLAYSTATION…

    R.I.P

  2. MRceeee
    January 28th, 2008 | 13:21

    down with the ps3 if they stop support for ps2 models :(

  3. loyalty
    January 28th, 2008 | 13:22

    Please let there be a screener of Into the Wild today. Pretty Please!

  4. Isky
    January 28th, 2008 | 13:24

    “Best Buy and some other reatilers will stop selling the $499 PS3 on January 28 — next week.”

    Hmm.. might want to change that, since you posted it on the 28th, and that would be this week :)

  5. liars
    January 28th, 2008 | 13:25

    post on topic or GTFO… i’m just glad i got an 80gb for christmas come on ebay… big resell value big resell value big resell value :D

  6. goatman
    January 28th, 2008 | 13:25

    lol luckily the ps3 in my house is backwards compatible, people say just use your old ps2 but when u plug a ps2 into a 104cm tv its looks too blocky and downright crap. at least with the ps3 it adjusts it all properly so it still looks decent enough.

    i saw this happening a mile away it sucks B.C is a great idea but the console makers are stearing clear of it now which sucks! for example say someone has 20 ps2 game and after lashing out on the console and one game they cant afford any more games for a while should they be exiled to the one game while 20 odd ps2 games could be used on the new console?

  7. Isky
    January 28th, 2008 | 13:28

    Hard to think they won’t have a PS3 that’s backwards-compatible. Guess it’s a $ thing… They want to sell more PS2 consoles aswell, and force people to still hold on to their old PS2.

  8. Rahsten Evil
    January 28th, 2008 | 13:31

    Hmmm, good thing I still have my PS2 with SwapMagic disks. I guess it doesn’t really matter at all that my PS3 isn’t backwards compatible…it couldn’t play my PS2 library anyways…

    But, yeah…not a great move on SONY’s part, backwards compatibility should be required in all Next Gen machines…someone at SONY ain’t using their logic board…

  9. PervySage
    January 28th, 2008 | 13:39

    Okay so I am a xbox360 fan and I don’t want to start any flame war’s but…The PS3 it a great machine and when they actually figure out how to manipulate that cell processor it will make some revolutionary games…however that is still a few years away..in the meantime multi-platform games just run better on 360 and I can’t see any PS3 exculsive I will be missing out on badly any time soon…So by the time they actually make full use of the machine they should be able to include backwards compatibility again..somthing standerd with a simple download for a good size library of games on 360

  10. tamzors
    January 28th, 2008 | 13:45

    ehhhhh im getting my 80gb ps3 tommorow. so i pretty glad i got it sooner then its happening.got it cheap + shipped

  11. James
    January 28th, 2008 | 13:51

    80GB PS3 is being replaced by a 120GB or 160GB model, hopefully with backwards compatability

    http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=24653

  12. g3rry
    January 28th, 2008 | 13:51

    see this is what you get when you buy sony products….. death to sony…. long live the xbox360

  13. dimitris
    January 28th, 2008 | 13:58

    Spend the cash on a Pc…save some peripheral money(that ps3 need to be a little more usable)…use the pc for 4000 other things than games!Upgrade easily with not have to pay lots of money get another new Ps4-5-6-7 console!
    Sony…drop dead!

  14. pH00
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:02

    everyone who bought a ps3 in the first place: HAHA!
    360 is where it’s at!

  15. Dude...
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:05

    who buys a ps3 to play ps2 games… if you wanna play ps2 games just hook up your ps2. i dont get why people make a big deal over this

  16. J
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:10

    I think it should be backwards compatible because it’s just easier for the consumer. Sony really doesn’t seem to be thinking about the consumer lately, and that’s precisely why they are at the bottom of the list when it comes to console sales.

  17. viranth
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:15

    I assume they might want to discontinue the PS2, so that more people will buy the PS3?

  18. jsx
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:18

    I think sonys plans are to emulate ps2 support with updates, so eventually all consoles will play the ps2 games

  19. QuadrupelQ
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:21

    Sony really lost it. They can’t handle the competition from Microsoft and Nintendo, and it shows on how they handle the PS3 release and retail. They used to be innovative and on top of the electronics market, but I haven’t seen them release a decent piece of electronics in months or even years!

  20. ScottyB
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:24

    Really will backwards compatability be missed that much? Can’t remember playing many PS1 games in my PS2. The only Xbox game I ever played in my Xbox360 was Halo2, that was until Halo3 came out!

  21. Matt
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:25

    @13 You are a moron if you think you will save money from building a pc. To build a pc equivalent to that of a ps3 or a 360 will cost a lot more then the system itself. If you only play games it would be a little more cost effective to go the route of buying a system instead of a pc. PC’s also get outdated way to quickly, at least consoles take a couple of years :/

  22. koza
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:33

    @1 you right mate
    @21 but pc is multi useful and ps3 is not

  23. Outsidemywindow
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:38

    Now that I have played a couple PS3 games, I could never go back to PS2. And like someone already said, it would take nothing for Sony to include emulation software it a update.

  24. waildy
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:41

    hey martin
    i have question
    where i can send a mail when i want to let rlslog to know that there is a some hot news?

    thx, waildy

  25. PervySage
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:43

    To play any pc games you can’t play on a console your going to spend 5,000 compared to 500 hmmmmmmmmm I think I will stick with consoles for my games and just kept a decent priced pc..not to mention the pc games are not supported as well as consoles (good stuff anyway)

  26. Rave#
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:46

    Lots of people say, “Who buys a PS3 to play PS2 games?”. Sure, that may be true - you buy a PS3 console to play the latest gen games - but despite this, the backwards compatibility still holds appeal to consumers. It’s convenient; no need to set up a PS3 AND PS2 if you ever want to replay the classics, and for consumers, an extra piece of hardware for the same price is tempting. It’s a nice bonus. Shame Sony has done away with it. We will be hearing a lot of, “Don’t get a PS3, it can’t even play PS2 games!”

  27. qwertz
    January 28th, 2008 | 14:55

    Truth is that Sony wants to kill backwart compatibility. Some exec stated it publicly. They want you to buy new games, not play already sold games on subsidized hardware. What the consumer wants is of secondary concern to them.

  28. neil
    January 28th, 2008 | 15:03

    @ 15
    I agree, why would you buy a next gen consol only to play old games.

    @ 13
    you can add another OS on the PS3, like YDL so you have a very powerfull PC OS on your PS3.

    I have both xbox and PS3 and “blu-ray” is the way forward so MS can GTF

  29. qwertz
    January 28th, 2008 | 15:09

    Here is the link:

    “Instead, the handicapping of the PS3 was part of an effort to “encourage buyers of the entry-level PlayStation 3 to purchase more games designed specifically for the new system.”"

    says Jack Tretton in the WSJ, article for subscribers:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119266831139662837.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

    Quoted here:

    http://kotaku.com/gaming/spin/jack-tretton-says-dropping-bc-wasnt-for-cost-measures-312628.php

  30. bdv
    January 28th, 2008 | 15:12

    Lets hope that PS2 software emulation will be available before MGS4 will be out.
    I would be mad not beeing able to play Shadow of the colossus on my brand new PS3 !!! (my ps2 can’t turn to YUV because of the modded chip, and so no progressive scan)

  31. jared
    January 28th, 2008 | 15:12

    Martin: you spelled retailers wrong in the post.

  32. fjgfjhjhf
    January 28th, 2008 | 15:14

    sony are crap, they should just give up on consumer products and just do r&d for other companies…the ps3 could have been a solid technical achievement and a good consumer product but sony have messed up everything surrounding the technology. to me that’s a company that has no business in the consumer market. it’s really a shame that they spend so much time and money doing something, and then completely screw it up. sad.

  33. xtazy
    January 28th, 2008 | 15:20

    hahahaha… gutted

  34. Outsidemywindow
    January 28th, 2008 | 15:22

    PS3 is great, people who complain about it are just looser who can’t afford one, or all ready bought a xbox and looking for a way to justify their almost outdated machine.

    R.I.P
    Xbox

  35. jared
    January 28th, 2008 | 15:30

    @34

    you really are outside your window, aka reality’s window perhaps? 360’s lead in console sales which is probably why sony’s yanking 599 pile consoles off shelves, overpriced, and outsold

  36. Outsidemywindow
    January 28th, 2008 | 15:34

    like I said. xbox owner crying like a baby. Cry me a river #35

  37. jared
    January 28th, 2008 | 15:45

    Sigh… sony fanboys try too hard to rescue their pre-R.I.Ping systems, nice ‘next-gen’ consoles being REMOVED LoL!

  38. Ba4ka
    January 28th, 2008 | 15:55

    @35
    That’d be the American market, who cares about the American figues?

    I for one is more interested in the Japanese market since the game i would buy would come from there.

    I’ll have admit though, i’m a bit jealous about Fable 2 being Xbox 360 exclusive, i just hope it’ll grace the PC sooner or later as i’ll never ever buy a 360.

    But that one title dosn’t stand a chance over the upcoming PS3 exclusive games.

    Besides, i guess i could play it at a friends’ place if i can convince them to buy it.

  39. napst0r
    January 28th, 2008 | 16:05

    Dont know why you guys have to fight, some bought the ps3 because they want to play games like resistance and kind of stuff, and some buy´d a 360 to play the other great games

    on my side, i got a 360 and im happy with it, but i also think the ps3 will get some awesome games in the near future

    whats the deal?

    to stay on topic, the ps2 emulation is importend, bc the orig. ps2 played on a HDTV just looks crappy

  40. bob
    January 28th, 2008 | 16:07

    what exactly are these upcoming PS3 exclusive games? someone enlighten me cause i keep reading how PS3 is gonna top the 360 this year in terms of games.

  41. killwhitey
    January 28th, 2008 | 16:13

    first off, i like my original xbox because i dont play games, i use it as an entire media center, saving games to the hard drive, along with movies, music, pictures… everything. i dont need a high priced machine that i will most likely never use for what its developed to do. now, unless someone can find away to hack the ps3, and make it into something that would actually be useful to ppls needs, then i wont be buying one. Xbox & X-360 is the way to go, and screw sony! i know plenty of ppl who work for the sony company in Dothan, Alabama, and they all said some interesting things about whats been going on. so, i myself, expect or assume, for the “play-station trademark”, to disappear within the next few years. i mean come on, no console trademark lives on forever. if sony really wants to blow ppl away, then they need to create the ultimate bad ass gaming system with all the neat little tweaks and tools that ppl want now-a-dayz. i mean, it just kills me how ppl whine about “my system is better than yours! no way man, mines got the best graphics, ERRRR!”. hell, the movie companies even have better graphics for animated kid films, that are better than any gaming system. i mean hell, look at beowulf, the movie was a tad bit better on the big screen, but on a tv, it sucks. y? u tell me. sony has went down hill, microsoft made the xbox into a super computer like gaming system, nintendo wii is new state of the art technology, but in my mind isnt as important as when the original nintendo came out. sega, you saw where that went.

    those, in my mind, are the gaming consoles i talk about, none of the others matter, because they SUCK!

  42. alk
    January 28th, 2008 | 16:17

    rofl it was only a matte of time when they were going to kill it… reduce the price lol… wii and 360 own the ps3.. also the ecomony is sh1t to hell right now, another black day is comming..

  43. towarf
    January 28th, 2008 | 16:22

    If there were ever a console that needed to be backwards compatible it would be the PS3. Releases come out so slowly for it, until there are tonnes of games out there, people want to play their old favorites as well without going through the trouble of switching all the hookups.

    If Sony doesn’t have further plans then they are totally disregarding their consumers however I would guess there is more news coming eventually.

  44. Avtaar
    January 28th, 2008 | 16:29

    If this is true, then this is the dumbest strategy Sony could ever come up with to regain ground. And i know a thing about dumb strategies - i’m helping out with the Giuliani campaign. Stupid c**t.

  45. Fizzycakes
    January 28th, 2008 | 16:35

    Looks likes Sony is trying pretty hard to kill themselves now.

  46. rolz
    January 28th, 2008 | 16:39

    lol @ sony.

  47. Pooboy
    January 28th, 2008 | 16:53

    I remember sony touting hardware backward compatibility as a big plus against the 360 software based emulation.

    The cell is powerful cpu, but i rather have a ps3 with a less potent cpu and a geforce 8 class rsx gpu since more than 70% of the graphics job is done by the gpu not the cell cpu.

  48. Jun Ji-Hyun
    January 28th, 2008 | 17:17

    I have a PS3 80 GB model and just use it to watch Blu-ray movies… that is until metal gear solid 4 comes out. That game alone justifies the PS3 purchase for me =)

  49. Play-Connect
    January 28th, 2008 | 17:21

    they’re halting the 80GB coz they’ll release a new SKU with bigger HDD. Sony dropped PS3’s BC in order to cut costs. Sooner or later they would “re-apply” BC thru software emulation, activated by a software update. Good thing I have a 60GB PS3 with EE. :)

  50. Guan
    January 28th, 2008 | 17:22

    I’m not a big game fan but I’m thinking of buying a PS3 just as a home entertainment system. The Blueray, 1080p upsacling for my 47″ FullHD plasma, storage, networking and wireless capabilities, and the growing number of codecs make this the only console for me. Though I’m sure they’ll include backwards compatibility through emulation, it’s not a major issue.

  51. y3gzi
    January 28th, 2008 | 17:27

    I honestly do not think that Sony will decide to go completely without backwards compatibility, since the Wii and Xbox360 have backwards compatibility as well.

  52. MBT
    January 28th, 2008 | 17:32

    in europe, the ps2 compatibility has been stripped for like,.. 6 months.

    shame theres no ps3 for people to buy for it

  53. Johney666
    January 28th, 2008 | 17:37

    The suckas @ Sony are really confident now. Future of BluRay looks good. Cheaper PS3 sales are up. So now they want to lock all the new console buyers to PS3 platform only and keep them from migrating to to anywhere else - even their previous success story the beloved PS2.

    OMG!! That means they are planning to kill the cute little PS2 soon! They are gonna pull out all the plugs of teh life support system 1 by 1. :(

  54. FamilyGuy
    January 28th, 2008 | 18:02

    WOW!

    I didn’t realize there were soooo many ill informed readers on release log. It astounding that so many completely wrong or idiotic comments were made thus far.

    In relation to not having B.C.: BUY YOUR FRIGGIN PS3 NOW! While the 80Gb model IS still on the shelf, this is what you slackers get for waiting. And it’s $500 for the 80Gb model, NOT $600.

    In relation to the PS2 not looking good on your HD sets. Get the Progressive scan enabling component cables. You can find them for under ten bucks online. MY HD set looked great especially playing games like Black and Gran Turismo A-Spec.

    In relation to the PS3s upcoming library of great games and exclusives:
    LittleBigPlanet, Gran Turismo 5, Devil May Cry 4, God of War 3, Metal Gear Online, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, White Knight, Haze, Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune, Killzone 2, Final Fantasy 13, Final Fantasy 13 Versus, Warhawk, Unreal Tournament 3 (mods allowed),
    Resistance 2 (60 player online, 8 player co-op), MotorStorm 2, Naruto, Star Ocean 4, Wipeout HD.\
    Happy?

    The 360 has been out a year longer and was released against NO (get that? 0) competition, was a lower price and the PS3 was able to sell just as well it’s first year with bad fame (you guys), and high price tag.

    Saying “a pc would be a better choice and could do a ton more”. Im pretty sure we’re talking about people who want to play games. The PS3 can play music, movies, games, browse the internet, is a blu-ray player, has a built-in wireless card, rechargeable wireless controllers, accepts any blue-tooth headset, accepts any 2.5″HDD, accepts all kinds of multimedia cards for transferring data, can have a linux OS installed to it, and looks sleek and gorgeous compared to the look of most pc towers.

    Don’t worry folks, i’ll return to spead more knowledge if needed.

  55. FamilyGuy
    January 28th, 2008 | 18:09

    @53, they aren’t killing the PS2, heck! they’re still releasing new slim PS2 color models for sell. They just want PS3 owners to buy PS3 games. Probably extremely envious of the attach rate of 360 games and figure the B.C. is partly at fault for theirs not being higher.

  56. killwhitey
    January 28th, 2008 | 18:09

    @FamilyGuy

    i see what your saying and you make a good point. but i still predict that sony is goin down within the next couple of years. as i hear it, they are planning some type of, outragous, awesome console, thats gonna be everything so far, its still in pre-planning and designing. so idk

  57. killwhitey
    January 28th, 2008 | 18:11

    dang, made an error

    as i hear it, they are planning some type of, outragous, awesome console, thats gonna beat everything so far, and its still in pre-planning and designing. its supposed to be done by the time they go down. so idk

  58. heinzy
    January 28th, 2008 | 18:19

    can’t see what the fuzz is all about. personally i don’t care. For the few PS2 games i still do play I use my old PS2 console where they are made for, including controller vibration functionality.

  59. OrthodoxAthiest
    January 28th, 2008 | 18:20

    a) agreed. PS3 is great, XBox360 is good, but #1 is the pants, and #2 is my (imaginary) sister’s skirt.
    b) So… is it not possible to download and burn PS2 games and play them on the original 60Gb/80Gb PS3’s? Everyone saying ‘just plug in your PS2′… what if you don’t have one but could download 200+ PS2 games? Would you need to chip the PS3, or just say f’ it and buy a uber-powerful PC with emulator? Also… Gamestop has ooooodles of PS2 games just waiting to be rented/bought by PS3 owners… so the backwards compatibility is a gem to me. If they scrub it from all models, I won’t be buying a PS3. simple as that.

  60. alk
    January 28th, 2008 | 18:23

    rofl ps3 has games to play.. lol.. wat 10-15 games.. while the wii and 360 have way more.. lol… still would by 360 and wii.. about to buy the wii in about 2 weeks from now..

    ps3 means nothing to me… ps2 was way better and still is.. and they still coming out with more games than the ps3.. lol

  61. holy
    January 28th, 2008 | 18:57

    bah!!Who cares about ps2 games…thats soo last decade.

  62. DaLoon
    January 28th, 2008 | 18:57

    balls then i was about to go by a 60 gig as they dont do the 80 here in UK not that i seen anyhow , well lost me as a customer an i bet i wont be only 1 :@ gits , looks like Xbox will win after all , i hope it do stuff it to them bloody twats !!

  63. holy
    January 28th, 2008 | 19:02

    @OrthodoxAthiest

    If u have a “buy a uber-powerful PC with emulator?”, u wouldnt need to play ps2 games..lol
    Ps2 games just dont have the graphics to satisfy me anymore…

  64. d
    January 28th, 2008 | 19:13

    Some of you are forgetting that Blu-Ray has won and that the PS3 is one of, if not, THE cheapest Blu-Ray player out right now. So, I don’t see sales slipping because of non backward compatibility.

  65. Peter Parker
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:10

    There will be a bigger capacity PS3 released this year. It will be a 160GB model. I remember reading all of these comments when they announced the end of the 60GB model in the UK. Now that it’s actually happened and only the 40GB version is on sale, I don’t hear people complaining about it. Will it have BC? I don’t know, but it will have full Live TV capabilities (along with the 20/40/60/80GB models), and that’s something that the 360 CANNOT DO. Not even the 360 Elite has the hardware capable for Live IPTV which I thought was hilarious.

    @FamilyGuy

    Devil May Cry 4 isn’t a PS3 exclusive. It was but it’s not anymore. You also forgot Wipeout PS3 (different to Wipeout HD).

    It was also announced today that Woolworths will stop selling HD DVD movies in store from March 28th 2008 however it will continue to sell them online for the time being. The reason they have done this is because Blu-ray outsold HD DVD 10:1. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=32490

    Now, will you all join me by clapping your hands and stomping your feet as we sing to this well known song:

    Another one bites the dust
    Another one bites the dust
    And another one gone, and another one gone
    Another one bites the dust…

  66. FamilyGuy
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:10

    @60

    The wii has more games? I didn’t realize shovelware counted :/

    Countless games are being/have been made for the wii to capitalize off of it’s extremely fast growing install base. Developers that are just trying to make a quick buck are making crap game after crap game. There are actually VERY few good games on the wii, even less that will hold your attention for over a month. Not to mention that the wii is still so close to “last-gen” that games can be made for it quickly.

    “The 360 has more games.” And it should, it’s been out a full year longer.

  67. tramp
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:12

    Does this mean that we’ll get a next-gen version of FFVII now?

  68. Sean
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:12

    Thank you Family Guy for saying relevant things! Ugh, I seriously wish that the whole “PS3 has no games” debate was over. The PS3 has over 100 games geniuses. Yeah, not as many Xbox 360 but look at the games it has in it’s library. “Viva Pinata”?? WTF is that?? And boo hoo, the PS3 is overpriced. The PS3 was NEVER overpriced. All game systems are sold at a loss. It (used to) cost about $800 to build the $600 60GB model. So they made -$200 profit per console. They didn’t go the cheap route like Microsoft and put out a faulty product that would make them pay millions out later for an unreliable system. Seriously, my roommate got the RRoD over break. All of the editors over as Gizmodo have all gotten it. I’d rather pay money for a system I know won’t break down then having to call and replace it ever 2 months.

  69. FamilyGuy
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:14

    I wrote “great games and exclusives”, I never said that DMC was PS3 only, the rest of my list just happened to be.

  70. Outsidemywindow
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:15

    @62 you can’t play your PS2 games on a Xbox either.
    Poor you

  71. killwhitey
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:16

    @68

    i have had my xbox ever since they first came out. i was at ebgames the day the xboxs were stocked, in that huge ass line, waiting to get one.

    i have had it that long, and it hasnt messed up, NOT ONCE. i even have mine modded and it still hasnt messed up.

  72. Sean
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:22

    I’m sure a lot of people haven’t. But when about 60% of people do, something’s wrong, don’t ya think? Unreliable.

  73. Lord Six
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:30

    @40 : Let’s see :

    - Metal Gear Solid 4
    - Final Fantasy XIII & Versus
    - Killzone 2
    - LA Noire
    - Gran Turismo 5
    - The Agency
    - God Of War III
    - Wipeout HD
    - Resistance 2
    - Tekken 6

    Now please , go ahead and name me the 360 exclusives for this year amd let’s see if they can compete with the PS3 exclusives.The answer is a big fat no.

    Good lord , this place is infested with 360 fanboys who have no idea what the hell they are talking about.

  74. killwhitey
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:32

    well, i think mainly the reasons why xboxs are so called “unreliable), is because ppl try to mod them and fail, the dvd drive gets dust in there and cant read a disc, ppl dopping them, so and and so forth. its mainly the majority of ppl who own the consoles, being the reason for the mishaps. however, some consoles, come retailed being defective. but when one does, then u have to call the company. thats why i try not to get something “electronic”, when it first comes out, unless i really want it. because, all electronics have defects, they all have bugs, they have things that need to be sorted out. same with windows vista… you catch my drift?

    there are good products and bad products out there. i’ll admit, ps3 is a great system, but ppl have their own opinions, and in this kind of debate, where ppl are constantly arguing over which one has better graphics, or which one has the better games, ect. there are always going to be somebody who disagrees and who happen to like what they like. if i had the money, i would probably but a ps3, but i probably wouldnt play it lol.

  75. Lord Six
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:36

    @74

    You can’t be more wrong.

    The 360 is not reliable because the hardware is cheap and they are overheating , plain and simple.You don’t get a 33% failure rate only because users try to mod the console or whatever.

  76. killwhitey
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:37

    @73

    xbox 360 exclusive games list. it may be a lil old so idk, i just looked it up on a site, seeing ashow i dont have a 360… yet.

    Released (36)
    Amped 3
    Battlestations: Midway
    Bomberman: Act Zero
    Dead Rising on Xbox 360Bullet Witch
    Call of Duty 2
    Chromehounds
    Condemned: Criminal Origins
    Crackdown
    Dance Dance Revolution Universe
    Dead or Alive 4
    Dead or Alive Xtreme 2
    Dead Rising
    Earth Defense Force 2017
    Full Auto
    Fuzion Frenzy 2
    Gears Of War on Xbox 360Gears of War
    Import Tuner Challenge
    Kameo: Elements of Power
    Lost Planet: Extreme Condition
    MotoGP 06
    Ninety-Nine Nights
    Over G Fighters
    Perfect Dark Zero
    Prey
    Project Gotham Racing 3
    Quake 4
    Ridge Racer 6
    Project Gotham Racing 3 on Xbox 360Rumble Roses XX
    Star Trek: Legacy
    Table Tennis
    Tetris Evolution
    The Lord of the Rings: The Battle For Middle-earth II
    The Outfit
    Top Spin 2
    Viva Piñata
    Xbox Live Arcade Unplugged Volume 1

    Unreleased (48)
    Ace Combat 6 *NEW*
    BioShock on Xbox 360Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
    Alan Wake
    All Points Bulletin
    Banjo-Kazooie 3
    BioShock
    Blazing Angels: Secret Missions
    Blue Dragon
    Call of Juarez *NEW*
    Castle Wolfenstein
    Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars
    Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars on Xbox 360Crossfire
    Cry On
    Culdcept Saga
    Dead or Alive Code: Cronus
    Elveon
    Eternal Sonata
    Fable 2
    Far East of Eden Ziria
    FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage
    Forza Motorsport 2
    GTR
    Halo 3
    Halo 3 on Xbox 360Halo Wars
    Hour of Victory
    Huxley
    Infinite Undiscovery
    Kane & Lynch: Dead Men
    Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
    Left 4 Dead
    Lost Odyssey
    Marvel Universe Online
    Mass Effect
    Mobile Ops: The One Year War
    Naruto 360
    Mass Effect on Xbox 360Overlord
    Postal III
    Project Gotham Racing 4
    Project Progressive
    Project Sylpheed
    Sacred 2: Fallen Angel *NEW*
    Shadowrun
    Tenchu Z
    TimeShift
    Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell 5
    Too Human
    Two Worlds
    Vampire Rain *NEW*

  77. killwhitey
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:38

    oh and Lord Six, i wasnt talking about the 360. i was talking bout the original in my post #74.

  78. Peter Parker
    January 28th, 2008 | 20:56

    @killwhitey

    Come on dude! Call of Duty 2? You’re damn right that list is old. It also came out on PC first but never mind. In fact, it came out before the PS3 was released. Wait, it was available on PC before the 360 was released in November 2005. I can’t stop laughing at this list hahahahahaha.

  79. FamilyGuy
    January 28th, 2008 | 21:19

    I love this comment, it made me lol big time:
    70. you can’t play your PS2 games on a Xbox either.

    It’s hilarious! To the people who complain about no B.C. and say they’ll buy a 360 instead, how exacly does that solve your problem?

    @76
    Soooo, it was too difficult to find a non-ancient list? Lets see a 2008 list for 360 exclusives THAT MATTER. And i mean actual exclusives, not games that are coming to the pc too.

  80. Sean
    January 28th, 2008 | 21:55

    @76, OMG, old is an understatement for that list…Halo is on it for goodness sake as unreleased!

    And note: Viva Pinata is listed as an exclusive? Oh Em Gee let me go get a 360 right now!

  81. sam white
    January 28th, 2008 | 23:05

    wii ftw!

  82. Mr Blobby
    January 28th, 2008 | 23:48

    2008 will be a good year for the PS3 to catch up to the 360 in terms of both consoles sold and games as well. Especially in America.

  83. gamefan76
    January 29th, 2008 | 00:09

    TO ALL GAMERS OR FUTURE GAMERS , I JUST HAD ANOTHER RROD
    ON XBOX360… 3RD ONE IN THREE YRS, WHEN I CALLED MICROSOFT
    THEY SAID IT WILL TAKE AT LEAST 2 MONTHS TO REPLACE.ALSO I
    DISCOVERED THE PIECE OF SHI@ WAS BUILT IN CHINA!!!! WTF,
    WHEN OR IF I GET ANOTHER 360 IM TRADING THE CHINEASE PIECE OF
    CRAP FOR A SONY PS3
    MICROSOFT CAN KISS MY$ & A@@ GOODBYE!!!!LONG LIVE SONY

  84. killblackie
    January 29th, 2008 | 00:22

    ps3

  85. braddockboy
    January 29th, 2008 | 00:40

    The ps3 is a beast weather or not it has back comp or not,if u want to still play out dated games in 480i thendont buy a 720p min system point blank and im not sure 360 plays all xbox games the reason 360 is doing well 1. everybody wanted to have it when halo 3 was to come out. 2. it was the next newest system. 3 $50 a year to play on line is a great price :)

  86. Parker
    January 29th, 2008 | 00:41

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    http://rapidshare.com/files/86951910/Drowning_Pool_-_Let_the_bodies_hit_the_floor_.mp3

  87. xm1014
    January 29th, 2008 | 00:58

    Throughout this thread I believe that no other post is as informative as FamilyGuy’s at 54. Bravo.

    Really, those who are ranting about how much more games the XBox 360 has over the PS3, get it through to your brains that it was released a full year before the PS3, therefore giving it time to build a a stable library. Wait and see what the PS3 can do with that same time period, then complain. If you can, that is. Titles like MGS4, Gran Turismo 5 and God of War 3 alone justify my 3 week old 80GB PS3 and there are still more games to come.

    I love my PS3, I stream movies and music from my PC to it, Blu-Ray movies look great on my 42″ HDTV, getting online with it is easy (and free), currently playing Uncharted, Heavenly Sword and reliving the old PS1 days with FFVII and Legend of Legaia.

    As for the XBox 360’s RRoD and other malfunctions? It COULD be a mistake in trying to mod it. It COULD be a result of mis-use and carelessness. But then again it could be that it’s just a faulty piece of technology considering 2 of my cousins (who know nothing of console modding and have given their 360’s nothing but unconditional love) are now mad as hell with their consoles under the influence of the RRoD.

  88. R1pper
    January 29th, 2008 | 01:10

    army of two, i got xbox360 just for that game.
    anyway it was easy money, so, whatever.

  89. cdntcareless
    January 29th, 2008 | 01:48

    The mighty $$ speaks. Why support PS2 games (for which original hardware is long gone) when you can squeeze a few more bucks out of the market by forcing gamers to go to PS3 games by making your hardware non-back compatable. Ethical-No. Necessary (due to cost of back support) -No. Profitable - OH YES!!. The risk is pissing off your PS2 users who may choose a different maker for the upgrade you have just made necessary.

    I’m sure MS doesn’t like having to support all the old versions of Word etc but imagine the chaos if they stopped - so many businesses (incl govt) can’t handle “.docx” documents. Perhaps Sony should think about customer loyalty - it works both ways.

  90. Ba4ka
    January 29th, 2008 | 02:19

    Sony has announced a new PS2 model coming out this november in japan, i can’t say i really see this as a sign of giving up on the PS2 users as some of you claim.

  91. yawn
    January 29th, 2008 | 02:20

    who caresssss and why don’t they hurry up already with the GTA 4 release!!!!!!!! damn yous at rockstar!!!!!!!!!

  92. TJW
    January 29th, 2008 | 02:30

    Backward compatible gaming…
    To tell the truth.. the 1st few months of the X360’s life, I spent more time on my Xbox than anything else.. After they updated the backward compatible list of games for the 360, I wiened myself from the Xbox to my 360.. But I actually had better games at thast time to play on the 360, than an old xbox title.. Same thing with PS3… It is a new system, and ment for new games.. Being able to play the old, is nice, but after you have the feature, most will not even use it… As far as exclusives.. I have both the X360 and PS3.. The x360 is by far the better of theo 2 systems, when it comes to online play.. But for all areound goodness. I’d have to tip my hat to the PS3. Mainly due to the larger ghard drive area, and I’m able to place tons of my divx movies on it and watch them on my 32″lcd..

  93. Peter Parker
    January 29th, 2008 | 02:32

    @89

    Yeah! M$ still supporting everything it has ever created. Just like M$ still support old OS’s Like Windows 3.1/95/98/NT4/Me/2000. No wait…

    Here we go, old versions of office. Just like M$ still supports Office XP/98. No wait they don’t support those either. Damn. I got it!

    Just like M$ supports old hardware in it’s new OS. Damn… I just can’t seem to make my point.

    Maybe M$ (and Sony) think that people need to embrace new technology rather than clinging onto the old in order to take a step forward. M$ already did it with Windows XP. XP was designed and released to work with the most recently available technology. XP didn’t work with lots of hardware which was designed and released with in the hayday of Windows 98SE. People complained so many companies released their own drivers so that old hardware would work with this new OS. Eventually people stopped complaining until M$ did it once again with Vista, forgetting/ignoring that many people have gone through this 5 years ago.

    Anyone choosing to buy a 360 over a PS3 SIMPLY because it doesn’t have BC should ask themselves why bother buying a PS3 in the first place when they can get a PS2 for a lot less money and how will buying a 360 allow them to play their PS2 games?

    Like I said in an earlier post, people in the UK aren’t crying because they can only buy a 40GB model. Many do their sums and work out that the PS3 is better value for money than a 360 and can do many things that a 360 cannot like Live IPTV or play Blu-ray movies out of the box. Some people decide that they want to buy a system with a large games library and choose the 360 as it came out in 2005 and should (and does) have a much wider choice of games than the PS3.

    Personally, I like my 250GB PS3 with BC (which I don’t use as my chipped PS2 sits next to my PS3 and I have many import games) that I can stream media to using WinAmp Remote. All I need now is an official UK launch date for the Dual Shock 3 and HAZE.

    @87

    Unfortunately God of War 3 has been delayed until 2009.

  94. SL33P3R
    January 29th, 2008 | 02:39

    The Playstation 3 is an unfinished system period. That is why you have to update it to get features they promised a long time ago before the system was even out. This is exactly why Sony has to keep making new systems to fix the last ones.

  95. TheFilmBuff
    January 29th, 2008 | 02:41

    Here’s to you sony for another f**king terrible decision!!! i somehow figured that sony would start screwing their customers as soon as the format war was over…

  96. mike
    January 29th, 2008 | 02:42

    Man, such a big fuss. Isn’t backwards compatibility one of those things you kind of want but never really bother with anyway? Just get it cheaper in time for MGS4 when I’ll finally have to get one.

  97. Avtaar
    January 29th, 2008 | 02:45

    Are Sony planning on any sort of Betamax-compatibility with any version of the PS3, or should i just eBay this videotapes now?

  98. g00nsqw4d
    January 29th, 2008 | 02:48

    buy a ps2 for 99.00 soon [right now 129.00]. if ya want to bkcomp pay for it

  99. Blu Ray is King
    January 29th, 2008 | 02:55

    @94 : LOL…….i’d rather have an “unfinished” console with firmware updates (and a Blu Ray drive) once in a while then one who has about 33 % (if not more) of suffering the infamous RROD or another hardware failure.
    And , are you saying that the 360 doesn’t have any updates ?? Sorry dude but your argument in flawed in invalid because it’s just not true.Proof :

    http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2006/0605-springrelease-features.htm
    So according to your logic the 360 is an unfinished system as well.

    Finally , you say that Sony make new systems to fix the last ones but that’s wrong.The reason why they make new systems is because it’s better from a business stand point and not because they have to fix them , unlike the 360 who had to launch and “elite” version with better cooling because the core and premium ones kept failing due to overheating and poor hardware.

    360 fanboys are simply hilarious sometimes.

  100. Alexander
    January 29th, 2008 | 02:58

    And after a year, you will be supprised with the OS ver. for PS3, that will have perfect software emu for it.
    Marketing maybe?
    And mostly to do, that are nextgen systems on the way, and they don’t have time to make PS2 games……..maybe some ports……..well……….buy PS2? for 50$ :D

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