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Science And Islam Part1 WS PDTV XviD-COUNCiL

Posted on 06.01.2009 at 11:28 in TV Shows by Vantec

COUNCiL released an interesting documentary presented by BBC. This is the first out of three documentaries of The Language of Science. A nice 1cd rip by COUNCiL.

Physicist Jim Al-Khalili travels through Syria, Iran, Tunisia and Spain to tell the story of the great leap in scientific knowledge that took place in the Islamic world between the 8th and 14th centuries.

Its legacy is tangible, with terms like algebra, algorithm and alkali all being Arabic in origin and at the very heart of modern science – there would be no modern mathematics or physics without algebra, no computers without algorithms and no chemistry without alkalis.

For Baghdad-born Al-Khalili this is also a personal journey and on his travels he uncovers a diverse and outward-looking culture, fascinated by learning and obsessed with science. From the great mathematician Al-Khwarizmi, who did much to establish the mathematical tradition we now know as algebra, to Ibn Sina, a pioneer of early medicine whose Canon of Medicine was still in use as recently as the 19th century, he pieces together a remarkable story of the often-overlooked achievements of the early medieval Islamic scientists.

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James

January 6th, 2009 | 11:30

Excellent documentary. For those who know little about Islam's contribution to the world, this is the documentary to watch.
amt

January 6th, 2009 | 11:41

thxxx that is great
megaupload link pls
Dr00n

January 6th, 2009 | 11:44

@4
Its better not to discuss Religion here
Its very Sensitive Issue if you don't know about anything then dot talk about that matter
Hope you Understand
sdsd

January 6th, 2009 | 11:46

islam = freedom religion
over9000

January 6th, 2009 | 11:50

inb4 all the trolls trolling each other.

which is a shame, because this documentary was quite interesting.
the

January 6th, 2009 | 11:51

If you check on the BBC website:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00gnqck

got info that there are 3 episodes so @3 we have 8?

Is this the same we are talking about?
Noah

January 6th, 2009 | 11:52

I'm really think to switch for islam…
any help NY?
Rabdoodoo

January 6th, 2009 | 12:02

I was born muslim and I live in NY. I can help you. My best friend just made that switch, He said its the best thing he ever did in his life.
refat

January 6th, 2009 | 12:13

thkk uu very much for thiss
A Science

January 6th, 2009 | 12:16

Religion of all these people was Science rather than Islam.
So it's only a marketing agenda by TV channels to divide Science along lines of religion to get extra $$$.
sam

January 6th, 2009 | 12:25

Not to overlook Indian, Greek & Roman contributions to Arabic science.
Light

January 6th, 2009 | 12:25

A bit misleading, most of the knowledge in the muslim world was passed by and originated from the Greek (and Persian) world.
HG

January 6th, 2009 | 12:26

Guys, Dr00n is right.
The world is full of hateress for lots of reason and religion is a very sensitive topic in that case. Unfortunately, through our "education" we all get different views on life and prejudges are not far from that in each's life.
We should be more open and curious and questioning on our own, instead of letting others decide for us what's right or wrong. Wether Believer or Not, we should always get our information not from just one, but from many different sources (like we do with the torrents)
Sorry for my bad english.
Jessica

January 6th, 2009 | 12:28

Very interesting …. seems legit. Looking forward to next episodes …. any1 know when they air?

Thanks.

xXx
Jess
Christian

January 6th, 2009 | 12:36

It is not Islam that created this science it is the people. All Islam did for people is teach them how to worship and live their life. Nothing to do with science!
Nicotine

January 6th, 2009 | 12:36

THanks for this great documentary, been waiting for something like this in here.
KronosDeret

January 6th, 2009 | 12:36

Hmm seemb reasonable, to change one savoer for another, better A would propouse FSM ism, it even better, cause you can do almost everything as far as you dont hurt other people, and then in heaven a beer volcano and strippers

Just kidding Yeah its ineresting to know the OLD Arabic world full of wise man and beauty. Too shame it was kidnaped by zealots

So to every good Muslims out there, keep it real
sdigsidjkf

January 6th, 2009 | 12:44

Science = real
Islam = made up

How can those two mix? they can't
Yo

January 6th, 2009 | 12:59

@7
fyi if you switch to Islam, this should be your last switch. because switching from Islam is forbidden and you'll have a nice execution. don't tell me I'm wrong. I'm among these people.
Scientist

January 6th, 2009 | 13:00

Don't some of you people have anything better to do with your lives than to just spread more hate and bigotry. Some of you are so ignorant it's embarrassing. I bet the ones attacking Islam haven't even downloaded this documentary. Go do something more useful with your lives, if you're capable.
VdU

January 6th, 2009 | 13:02

Hm. Any torrent-link? =/
Idiot.

January 6th, 2009 | 13:07

Please watch the documentory b4 you comment on it's content.

e.g.
"Science = real
Islam = made up

How can those two mix? they can't "

Watch it! No one says the two go hand in hand!

"Not to overlook Indian, Greek & Roman contributions to Arabic science."

Watch it! It says that the arabs deliberatly went out in search of new knowledge around the world! Including India, china, etc.

Serioulsy people if your going to just spurt out your opinions here your a tard!

After watching it last night i think that it's is interesting! But in my mind a series is proberly too much! I will get too bored! A one off special highlighting all the contributions to modern science from islam would be much better!

I gotta say though thepresenter is good! I like his style!
THuGaCaTioN

January 6th, 2009 | 13:07

Islam hasn't contributed anything to society apart from bomb-making
Half of the things they claim to have invented have been stolen
Anarchy

January 6th, 2009 | 13:09

Religion is the major downfall of humans!
Religion=
business
war
hatred
confusion
mind control
djbillybop

January 6th, 2009 | 13:21

Anarchy is spot on iam catholic roman that is and iam staying that way if you change your religion once you will do it again
AMEN AMEN/
rebecca

January 6th, 2009 | 13:22

@6: Yes, it appears to be the same series. The whole series "Science and Islam" seems to be divided into different sections. The first one "The Language of Science" contains 3 episodes. The next one "The Empire of Reason" contains another 3 episodes, and I guess that there will be more after that.

Could we PLEASE have some links for this???? It looks really interesting. I attended some lectures by Al-Khalili when I was in London a few years ago. They were on quantum mechanics, and were very interesting and accessible.
sadakhjsd

January 6th, 2009 | 13:35

could all the learned persons here spare us their half wit comments !!! 26 comments and no link. i am tired of refreshing the page only to read some more opinions from people who know nothing about their own religion but like to comment on others.
RhuBarb

January 6th, 2009 | 13:36

Has anyone noticed theres a lot of islamic and muslim programs popping up these days?
There are programs that have nothing to do with islam but we are force-fed this junk.

I think its an attempt by the powers that be to make people be more accepting of muslims.
Well i made my choice a long time ago, being a born and bred Englishman, i dont accept it and my children never will either..

Oh and:

@ sdsd

'islam = freedom religion'

Ok, so you are free to sleep with someone from another religion?
Can you drink alchohol?

Everyones entitled to their opinion eh?
Virus

January 6th, 2009 | 13:45

islam is dangerous, like buddhism – in that both believe that the HEAD OF STATE/GOVERNMENT should be the religious leader.. and laws should not be decided democratically, but from the word of 'God', as written in ancient texts..

Please people, download some Richard Dawkins
http://richarddawkins.net/

Also, Islam is just as violent as Christianity.. both their texts allow many horrible things such as rape, torture, killing in the name of God.

Religion is a virus.
gb

January 6th, 2009 | 13:50

Muslims are renounced for their lack of tolerance towards other religions. If you ask people in the street what comes to mind when you say the word "Islam", most of them would say "Terrorists". I wish their religious leaders would learn from their glorious past and preach for tolerance and peace instead of hatred and violence.
common sense

January 6th, 2009 | 13:52

Its legacy is tangible, with terms like algebra, algorithm and alkali all being Arabic in origin and at the very heart of modern science – there would be no modern mathematics or physics without algebra, no computers without algorithms and no chemistry without alkalis.

Sounds like this was written by a brainwashed person. Seriously…does ANYONE with an ounce of brain cells forget
"greek fire" that was used against Arab ships and something they had no defense against? Or how about rockets and the invention of Gunpowder that was invented by the Chinese way BEFORE "The Prophet" was even a twinkle in his daddy's eye?And what about the Mayans who already had physics and Astronomy/Math/Construction long before Islam was even a grain of thought. Or the Zulu's of Africa and the Cherokee's of the American South East who had thrivingCivilizationswell before the Arabs stopped killing each other over their sandpits. And I can name at least 100 more different civilizations that invented or had items that Muslums claim their religion invented. This "info" about this series seems to be written by an Islamic syncopate instead of one that actually was willing to give credit to other civilizations for items that were in existance long before Islam even began
Joey1999

January 6th, 2009 | 13:59

"Ok, so you are free to sleep with someone from another religion?"

Sounds like your children aren't free to sleep with someone from another religion (when they're old enough, of course). There's really no point saying Islam is a backward religion when you're clearly a very bigoted person who wants to indoctrinate your children with your own backward values. Sounds like you would also prefer that people who don't share your values or skin colour should be driven out of the country. You're not a militant Iraqi, by any chance, are you?

Back on topic, though: This is a very interesting documentary, if you're interested in history and science it's worth taking a look, but if you're someone with a very narrow/ignorant view of religions you weren't raised into, then please don't spout your opinions here.
homieneedsafix

January 6th, 2009 | 14:01

Moderators of the site, there is no available torrent link, can this be sorted?
rs

January 6th, 2009 | 14:04

Got any rapidshare link for this documentary? tq
R.Bizzle

January 6th, 2009 | 14:05

This guy, Jim Al-Khalili is my lecturer at Surrey University!! I must say, I preferred the earlier series, Atom. And his lectures are pretty ace.
Jeff

January 6th, 2009 | 14:06

Click through for fast free links: http://www.freedownloadlinks.net

Torrent:
http://toptorrents.org/torrents/287685/Science.And.Islam.Part1.WS.PDTV.XviD-COUNCiL/details.html
pee pants

January 6th, 2009 | 14:07

My only issue with Islam is the fact you cannot question it. This leads to a buddy system that doesn't really allow for the type of condemnation needed to address the perversion of their religion by radicals.

Other than that, who invented algebra and the fact that the Chinese invented paper, doesn't really matter to me. All those things would ave been invented eventually. Just as th light bulb, etc.
kk

January 6th, 2009 | 14:10

@29
islam doesnt permit religious leaders as heads of states. Shariah law is meant for the muslims of the land. State law is seperate. Its only todays leaders that choose to mix the two, islam is a religion of tolerance and when it started people of multiple faiths lived in the same cities and their belie respected. You have to remember man is corrupt so alot of faults ppl tend to pick at islam is nothing to do with the religion but the people who tend to be corrupt.
sd

January 6th, 2009 | 14:14

Ok, I think it's time to turn of comment section,this is going too far from both side!
homieneedsafix

January 6th, 2009 | 14:19

hey jeff man, thnx for the link, but it seems to be broken.. well that site is.
Sohniper

January 6th, 2009 | 14:20

we lasted 3 posts before someone had to hint at religion vs the world. I don't care to read your opinions on how you think the world works in your head. please go to a discussion board concerning your opinions.

please for the love of anything just post about the release. y do i have to filter out the crap before i learn anything about a release that may or maynot have anything to do with religion!
marc anthony

January 6th, 2009 | 14:28

This is really an interesting documentary i could say.Do give a try downloading it.Although i don't like documentaries.=S
Jamal

January 6th, 2009 | 14:40

Can we get a working link for a download of this please?
john

January 6th, 2009 | 14:41

A bit misleading, most of the knowledge in the muslim world was passed by and originated from the Greek (and Persian) world

QFA

The muslims did a real nice job of generously looking after our scientific heritage for us for a few hundred years, but it's like a librarian claiming to have written Romeo and Juliet to say the muslim world originated modern science.
idiM

January 6th, 2009 | 14:44

Any torrents yet?
homieneedsafix

January 6th, 2009 | 14:48

apparently, i as a n*gga aint gonna get his fix. flux the racism back to originatas. let us recieve the linx for the torrentz. working ones i request and require
rebekha

January 6th, 2009 | 15:09

Does anyone have any megaupload, rapidshare, etc links for this? I don't use torrent. Cheers.
Sir Topham Hatt

January 6th, 2009 | 15:13

In the description:

"Its legacy is tangible, with terms like algebra, algorithm and alkali all being Arabic in origin and at the very heart of modern science"

I don't see how that makes sense. Anyone can take a Greek, Latin, Arabic or any other word and employ it in English.

English is an amalgam of various languages, that is well known. "Amalgam" itself comes from the Latin "amalgama" which again doesn't point in any way to who invented the concept of mixing metals etc.

So you can't just say, "oh hey algebra comes from the Arabic language, hence they must have invented/influenced or even used it!" All it's proof of, is that someone liked the word.
Re: YO

January 6th, 2009 | 15:31

@ 19: Yo

nope, people are allowed to switch. there is no death penalty. if the state does give death, its their misinterpretation. the key words are "you are free to choose"
Mer

January 6th, 2009 | 15:45

None of the posted torrent links work?
avar

January 6th, 2009 | 15:54

how about a working link for this documentary? rs or mu ?
shreif

January 6th, 2009 | 15:55

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
bbrain

January 6th, 2009 | 15:57

so if i enslave a bunch of scientist, and/or (kind of the same) force them to join or work for me..

does that mean i get credit for what they do?

yay me!
no

January 6th, 2009 | 16:01

@15 actually Islam tells you to read and study sciences
Jamal

January 6th, 2009 | 16:18

still need a working torrent

bbrain – your comment is pretty stupid.. enslaving scientists? the scientists themselves were muslim
Mmmmmmmm

January 6th, 2009 | 16:33

Islam = Terrorist and if you want some proof just remember 9/11 and all the other terrorist acts committed all around the world, its allways Muslims blowing things up and killing people.
muslim

January 6th, 2009 | 16:34

@28 RhuBarb

'islam = freedom religion'

Ok, so you are free to sleep with someone from another religion?
Can you drink alchohol?

Everyone's entitled to their opinion eh?

Yes a Muslim can sleep with someone from another religion. Not only that but also Islam encourage the two religions marriage.(read about Islam and you will know much better).
and about the alcohol,a drunk don't act from his own mind, he can do terrible things(rape..). The next morning he will forget every think like nothing happen.that's why we can't drink alcohol.
What do you call that this now? Isn't reasonable?
Before post a comment, pls make sure if you r right.
Bob

January 6th, 2009 | 16:39

"there would be no modern mathematics or physics without algebra, no computers without algorithms and no chemistry without alkalis"

That's a bit exaggerated… if someone wouldn't find it now, someone else would find it later!
mib

January 6th, 2009 | 16:47

@52
Islam = Terrorist and if you want some proof just remember 9/11 and all the other terrorist acts committed all around the world, its allways Muslims blowing things up and killing people.

OK if a couple of Muslims kill people that doesn't mean that all Muslims do the same.
Its not about Islam. If israel kill more then 200 Palestinian children what will you say ?
Jewish = Nazi brutality and inhumanity.
For god sake, its not about religion. They do not represent a religion.
pls think a little.
Atheist

January 6th, 2009 | 16:56

Science > Religion

Might be good watch for ENTERTAINMENT.
GC

January 6th, 2009 | 16:57

http://www.filefactory.com/file/a01074c/n/Science_and_Islam_-_The_Language_of_Science_mov

224 MB Mov
Islamway

January 6th, 2009 | 16:57

The first word of Holy Quran was ( Iqra ) and it mean read .
candle

January 6th, 2009 | 17:00

religion and science is incompatible
mib

January 6th, 2009 | 17:02

Torrent
http://www.mininova.org/tor/2153088
Johney666

January 6th, 2009 | 17:16

Just another lame attempt to sugarcoat one of the most violent cult culture on earth. Islam, like any other religion is pure evil at its core.
Bob the Drunk

January 6th, 2009 | 17:39

You people slating a religion you really no nothing about is THE single most stupidest sight my eye have witness today, for “god” sakes do a little reading now and then, the world is full of madness due to arrogance and stupidity, look what your taxes are doing to school children in Palestine, makes you a proud American’s right? Pathetic!
p.s I’m an atheist
f islam

January 6th, 2009 | 17:40

islam is laughable
zedii

January 6th, 2009 | 17:41

rapidshare links for those outside of uk?
christianity and islam suck..scientology FTW

January 6th, 2009 | 17:46

anyone with actual links?
Alpha

January 6th, 2009 | 17:59

All civilizations of all beliefs, creeds & atheist have made tremendous contributions to Science. Saying Islam 'nicked' it is pure Bigotry ignorance & or gullibility. Give the devil his due. Islam @ the time promoted education.Seek Knowledge,even as far as China The Prophet (Peace & Blessings of God be upon him) said.All civilizations have borrowed each others knowledge & in many cases further enhanced & or developed that knowledge.

We the the law abiding & peace loving Muslims are by far in the majority, thank God.The world would be a different place otherwise.

The Qura'n is available in all the major languages of the world. Go on, read it. So you can make an informed opinion & not based on the terrorist few & press.

No one hates the terrorist that us Good Muslims, they've got us all in this situation & I for one will never forgive them for tainting my beloved relgion.

Finally, can we pls respect each others beliefs & stop calling names.

Peace
erok713

January 6th, 2009 | 18:10

Science will tell us Islam is a farse.
muslim male

January 6th, 2009 | 18:19

to everyone who hates islam, and is spreading hatred about it. Do you people know anyhthing about islam? no, you really dont youre views are based upon what you hear what you see in tv, etc. my point is you have not atudied islam properly to know what it is and what it is about.

The word islam means peace, terrorism is against the teachings/values of islam as islam does not allow killing of innocent people,it only allows war if an enemy attacks only then can you retreat, even then you cant kill civilians, babies,eldery … you cant even harm plants/vegetation.

"oh muslims are terrorists", you cant single out a whole race/religion based on a minority. I for example and those i know dont support this view and hate those who do. These people are from radical sects which are corrupted and do not properly adhere to the real teachings of islam.

mib post 59 you are very racist and naive. you have very extreme views. it doesnt matter race/religion you will always get bad people and they will always be a minority. so you cant say that to ANY race or religion or label people the way you do.

islam teches equality and peace among all, please have a look at the quran and the hadith, to see the teachings and then voice your oppinions and comments.
melow

January 6th, 2009 | 18:22

It's one of the best documentaries I've seen so far.
Found it at youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsfrBPpyIh4
KHALIDSG

January 6th, 2009 | 18:25

I wonder who is killing Palestinians now in Gaza by F16 air strikes

I wonder who has destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan

Guys, terrorism has no religion.

Terrorists are of different religions and cultures

Injustice against the Arab people of Palestine is going to produce terrorism in the future.

Don't insult any religion as long as you are ignorant of it

You have to read reliable, trusty books on Islam, not just listening to rascist propagnada against Muslims and Arabs

For me, I love and respect the American people, but I hate the American Administration in the White House because it is always unjust to Arab and Muslim peoples.
A Large Hadron

January 6th, 2009 | 18:27

"there would be no modern mathematics or physics without algebra, no computers without algorithms and no chemistry without alkalis"

That's pretty bold.. let's consult The Oracle.

1. Algebra.

The word "algebra" is a Latin variant of the Arabic word al-jabr, which comes from the *title of a book*, Hidab al-jabr wal-muqubala, written in Baghdad about 825 A.D. by the Arab mathematician Mohammed ibn-Musa al-Khowarizmi.

So for a start, "algebra" comes directly from Latin, not Arabic. The original inspiration is the title of an Arabic book about a single person, a mathematician.

But he was NOT the first mathematician to think up Algebra, which actually originated with the Babylonians, as early as 2000 BC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra#History

2. Algorithms

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithms#Etymology

Summary: The word "algorithm" formed indirectly from the name of a Persian mathematician, Al-Khwarizmi, who wrote on the subject around 820AD. He was indeed orthodox Muslim.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_M%C5%ABs%C4%81_al-Khw%C4%81rizm%C4%AB

So cool, an origin exists there.

But computers without algorithms? Sure! A "computer" is defined as a combination of 2 technologies: a computing device and programmability. While one of the earliest examples of this is is the astronomical clock invented by Al-Jazari in 1206, it does NOT use mathematical algorithms, it was a mechanical device which could be "programmed" mechanically.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computers#History_of_computing

3. Chemistry Without Alkalis

In chemistry, an alkali (from Arabic: Al-Qaly is a specific type of "base". Bases are materials with pH > 7. ie. the opposite of acids (pH < 7).

Alkalis are, of course, naturally occurring materials. They weren't "invented", and yes you can do chemistry without them. They are a sub-set of bases.

People often say "measure the alkalinity of soil" but that's not quite right… you're measuring the "base" (pH) of the soil. There's no such thing as "alkalinity" as such… The two terms have come to be used interchangeably in popular culture, but they're not necessarily the same thing.

Much like the words "Documentary" and "Fact".
Timmahh!

January 6th, 2009 | 18:30

wow, nice explanation there hadron. interesting.

And much like the words "bible" and "truth" eh?
James

January 6th, 2009 | 18:33

LOL – so many ignorant and arrogant people here.

If it werent for the Muslims translating and developing knowledge, you wouldnt be here looking at computer screens downloading torrents and what not. The break through by Muslim thinkers and scientists paved the way for the renaissance and revolution we live on.

So please, people, WATCH the documentary and then be moderate, accepting, tolerant and peaceful.
RhuBarb

January 6th, 2009 | 18:44

@ 'muslim' 57

You said:
'and about the alcohol,a drunk don't act from his own mind, he can do terrible things(rape..). The next morning he will forget every think like nothing happen.that's why we can't drink alcohol.'

What am i supposed to think about that comment?
So you and other muslims are afraid you will rape(or worse) someone if you drink?
thats what you're taught?

That just worries me even more about your 'religion'.

You sound like a caged animal my friend…
Count Spatula

January 6th, 2009 | 19:38

&79

He just gave an example of what it can do not of why its forbidden. I'm a muslim and I don't even know the real answer and I couldn't care cos drinking(to excess which is what a lot of people too) is a filthy act no matter what way you look at it. I don't want to drink and feel responsible for what is a major blot on society in general. Islam may forbid you from doing something but its up to you whether you choose to or not.
Donnell

January 6th, 2009 | 19:57

people! STOP! stop arguing with each other.
I don't know what the F@#!. is wrong with you

HERE IS "RELEASE" TALK NOT "RELIGION" TALK for God's sake!
Sarge

January 6th, 2009 | 19:59

I have nothing against Islam but i see somebody posted a comment that it was fine to sleep with a person from another religion. I have head that Muslims frown upon this.

"there would be no modern mathematics or physics without algebra, no computers without algorithms and no chemistry without alkalis."

Where would they be without Mesopotamia (Assyrians – Sumerians – Akkadians – Babylonians).

These were the people that started our civilization. Read up on them, then we will start talking.

Sarge.
Big Texas Butters

January 6th, 2009 | 20:21

@ 80

I Agree, I am not a muslim but I agree that sharia laws are the best for society, they keep a sence of decency and respect toward your fellow man.

It is these inbred mor0ns that twist it into their own meaning making it a bad thing and saying sharia law = terrorists.

Being sober and respecting society is very honorable in my opinion, these brain dead hicks could obviously learn a thing or two from it.
Me

January 6th, 2009 | 20:31

Can anybody share some links for the documentary and stop all this futile talk about how some religion is better than other and how only ones are terrorists and others are not?
Logosica

January 6th, 2009 | 20:36

Is there any rapidshare links ? If not I'll download via torrent and put into rapidshare.

Thanks
Mav

January 6th, 2009 | 20:42

@RhuBarb:
You said:
So you and other muslims are afraid you will rape(or worse) someone if you drink?
thats what you're taught?

That just worries me even more about your 'religion'.

First of all when a person is drunk, he does not act as he's taught. So drop the stupid assault.

Secondly, if you think a person is sane while under the influence of alcohol, why do you think drunk driving is not allowed for a start?. Its forbidden because a person loses his sense of esteem and can commit act under its influence which will embarrass him.

And for all those claiming

@76:
Your reference to word Algebra itself states its a latin variant of an "Arabic" word. So you are misinterpreting it yourself. I believe what it means is that Algebra is a latin word, derived from an Arabic word. So the arabics called it al-jabr and it was changed to algebra in latin.
GC

January 6th, 2009 | 20:42

@66,@84

LINK:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/a01074c/n/Science_and_Islam_-_The_Language_of_Science_mov
shreif

January 6th, 2009 | 20:58

hi people this documentary is about civilization share in man kind development so why some body do not like this .
if i see a documentary about old Egyptian ,Persian ,roman , chines or modern Europe civilization i will be happy to watch it so why all this aggressive emotion on Islam civilization ?
some people full of hate they do not like to see not even one good thing on Muslims and those people are really sucks .
shreif

January 6th, 2009 | 21:05

i read book labeled 100 Greatest Science Discoveries of All Time and the author of the book don't mention any discover of any civilization except the western one and this of course is totally prejudiced any one disagree .
people

January 6th, 2009 | 21:26

As soon as i saw the post i thought, here we go again (its RSLOG innit LOL). Better to respect each others belief and respect one another. End.
LimpLinux

January 6th, 2009 | 21:32

You know, Iran wasn't even a moslem nation until influence from the neighboring Arab countries made it so.

Really wish they wouldn't associate my country (Persian American here) with Islam… because the country's original religion is Zoroastrianism. Look it up.
mami

January 6th, 2009 | 21:34

Science = questioning+suspecting+observing+human-mind-sourced-hypothesis generation+verification(experiment, nature is the only true reference)+change/update/enhance/falsify+re-do from start –> better and yet-higher-level understanding of ourselves, the nature, and the universe
Religion = Personal issue + ruler's viechle for keeping the masses in control. No matter what the type, name, variation of the religoun.
"Free your mind!"
Fabiolla

January 6th, 2009 | 21:39

Hi!!! Rapidshare links, is it possible? Thx!!! Hello from Brazil
RhuBarb

January 6th, 2009 | 21:40

@ Mav

LOL
Danny

January 6th, 2009 | 21:49

The Koran was written by bedouins collaboratively who took the heretic Christian beliefs of the area, the Jewish system from its neighbours and mixed it in a blender to create their own version of these events to suit them….kind of like taking Scientific ideas from the Greeks and Romans and maintaining them in a time capsule (this doco)..like that Abraham visited Mecca or that Muhammad flew off on a unicorn to the sky ironically from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem..all wthout historic proof.
mib

January 6th, 2009 | 22:17

If someone hate Islam because of 9/11 its his problem that he don't know what Islam is.
I don't care about what he think. He must search to find what really Islam is.
About science, why don't everyone just google "MIRACLES OF QURAN" and find out….
Watch the documentary and see the influence of Islamic sciences and art on the development of the world.
http://www.55a.net/firas/english/
Just another point "alcohol", In QURAN its says that alcohol is good in some parts and bad in some others, but its bad parts are much more than its good.
@ RhuBarb
scientifically alcohol is unhealthy,that's it.
a7med

January 6th, 2009 | 22:17

@95 that is not true islam come to correct many wrong believe in the old religions (pls eavry one read quraan before say and repeat any weak words )

and for the ppl that they r saying that islam is terrorism-

MOHAMMED (SALAH ALLAH ALEH WA SALAM) THE PROPHET OF ALLAH DIDN'T KILL ANYONE DURING HIS WHOLE LIFE(EXCEPT ONE MAN WHO ADMITTED HIS INTENTION TO KILL HIM DURING THE WAR
don't judge

January 6th, 2009 | 22:29

@95 Danny
First of all, Koran took years to be completed, its god paroles and its not a book written then introduced to people.
Historic proof for the Ascension of the Prophet Mohammed are just the next day of it when he describe the the place as it really, inch by inch…
Simply your comment is simply [NUKED], you need a REPACK or a PROPER.LOL
V

January 6th, 2009 | 22:43

In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate.This visage, no mere veneer of vanity is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished.However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified…and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.
The only verdict is vengeance, a vendetta held as a votive not in vain,for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.
shreif

January 6th, 2009 | 23:06

@95 danny i can say the same about Torah and Gospel but i don't like to insult others beliefs .
Mohamed is man of owner ,honest and he was illiterate (can't read or write ) so any claim that he inspired by Christians and Jewish beliefs or write ( compose ) Koran is totally ridiculous .
one of Islam dictations is to not imitate Christians ,Jewish or whatever any other creed .
shreif

January 6th, 2009 | 23:13

@99 v what all this v's you talk about i can't understand a ???n word ???? you s??k my d??k

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