Releaselog

RLSLOG back online: What really happened

Wow. So we are back online and in full strength again. But it was a long fight. I will disclose few details and what was really going on from my point of view. It’s been a really unusual downtime, considering both its reason and its length. But let’s start from the beginning.

Almost a week ago, we (and many others) received a takedown request from infamous Web Sherrif. The release in question was Franz Ferdinand’s new album Tonight. That itself is a delicate case: Franz Ferdinand is a Scottish band which encouraged piracy few years ago. They specifically mentioned Limewire and other p2p applications and offered few tracks for free. They also said they themselves download illegal stuff from internet. Now, they (or their distributor Domino Records ot be exact) hire Web Sherrif to pursue everyone who would want to share their newest leaked album. Talk about turnaround.

This takedown request from Web Sherrif was a one big joke from the very beginning. As you probably know, we do not host any content on our servers and we do not offer anything for download. Therefore we have nothing to remove. We only inform about new releases and eventually link to third party servers where you can download them (the very same thing Google does and noone cares). Most of the download links is posted by our readers anyway. The quote in the request ("your web-site has published and is digitally distributing“) is therefore completely false. We didn’t publish anything. We just wrote about it.

Another funny thing about the takedown notice was they couldn’t even write our URL properly. They wrote "rslog.net" instead of our proper URL, so I replied to them I don’t own this website. They didn’t get it and stepped up their idocy: "you must also arrange for the following apology to be published on the relevant page of the site for a period of seven (7) days :“RSLOG wishes to apologies to Franz Ferdinand, Domino Records and Web Sheriff for the disruption caused to their sales, marketing and promotion plans by our publishing of pirate file details relating to the unreleased album “Tonight”.

I couldn’t help myself but reply in a similarly stupid manner: “Thanks for good laugh. once again, learn to type instead of drinking brandy in saloon. Yours Old Shaterhand." This was the very last piece of communication we had with Web Sherrif. I guess they got pissed and realized this won’t really work. So they moved to higher level. They contacted our host, which kindly asked us to remove download links from the article, which we really did (Google Cache). One would think this is the end of the story.

But it wasn’t. Instead, suddenly our website stopped working. It came like a complete surprise with no explanation. Of course, I inquired with our host what’s going on, but they seemed to not really care about replying fast. Their usual response time is circa 24 hours and even more during weekends, which is one of the reasons why I’ve been thinking about moving away from them for a long time – but never actually did it. After a day of struggling, they finally replied: Web Sherrif sent the very same request to their bandwidth provider and they, instead of protecting the rights of their customers or analyzing anything, completely shut down the servers and nullrouted the IPs. Fair enough.

So for the rest of the time, I’ve been trying to find out what to do next and instantly started negotiating with different hosting companies about new servers. Don’t be fooled – RLSLOG is terribly huge and I found out almost no hosting is able to have servers for us ready in acceptable time span. The communication was also very scarce because of the weekend and tens of international calls I made didn’t really help. Day after day continued with no replies and no good news. And then, out of sudden, yesterday shortly before midnight, a miracle email came: “Your servers are online.” No explanation, no details, nothing.

This whole thing taught me a few things. For starters, you can’t believe anyone unless you know him personally and even then things may screw up. Second, hosting companies are scared shitless, slow with replies and don’t really care about their customers, although we didn’t do anything illegal or wrong. Third, it’s always good to have a backup plan (in our case, backup servers ready to host the site in case of something similar happens), because it takes many days before hosting companies set you up with something.

If you take it from the other side, we did our best to get over it. We moved the domain to a temp server to at least inform you what’s going on. We made a private temporary blog and prepared all posts there to have them ready when we get back online. We informed you about new releases at our forums. We mailed Franz Ferdinand and asked them if they are happy now. And we still rock. Thanks everyone who offered me help during the tough time, it was extremely stressful period of time for me. Let’s hope this was the last portion of bad luck in 2009. And let’s hope assholes like Web Sherrif will rot in hell. They deserve it.

Comments (207)

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  1. bingo handjob
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:13

    but… I think that there really ARE hosting companies that can handle what you need. seriously. with fast turn-on.

  2. Survivor
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:13

    I suspect many Rslog regulars like myself thought that our ISP was filtering you. Congrats on proving that you can't keep a good thing down & more power to http://www.rlslog.net!

  3. BlackHole
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:13

    Glad that u are back guys!!!! holla

  4. Eric Crapton
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:14

    I Shot the Sheriff

  5. Critical
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:14

    too bad stupidity and lack of professionalism doesn't kill………

  6. January 20th, 2009 | 13:17

    good to be back on.

  7. Rew
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:18

    Interesting read, I cant believe anti-piracy firms are stupid enough to distinguish between hosting and linking.

    Great to see ur back :-)

  8. the noob
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:19

    rlslog and martin FTW!!!

    great to have you back online.
    this is mosdef the most checked website of mine.

    keep it up

  9. nha
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:22

    Don't provide links simple as that.. ppl know how to find them thanks to google.

  10. trLmos
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:23

    This is the type of fight you'll have to deal with Martin, and you know it. And everytime you exit one, you come out victorious. For that I cheer, lets hope it won't be a final strike against you and your "little" project! :) Cheers & thanks for an explanation, as always.

  11. 17
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:24

    Websherrif are already targetting certain filesharing communities on LiveJournal like IHEARTTVSHOWS and IHEARTCINEMA (two notorious files-sharing comms there). I can't imagine them DDOS'ing LiveJournal though or contacting the hosting company. Perhaps they are targetting the Mods (who use alias usernames to cover up the true operators of each community). We'll see how intelligent Websherrif are

  12. dodd
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:25

    so u backed down from your belifes and removed ferdinadns crap….either tough u are completly right about it, and u let that web sherif to win….
    this site deserves to be offline since u dont seem to have enough faith in it.

  13. Survivor
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:26

    Incidentally I actually downloaded the F.F. album in question and quickly dismissed itan hour or so before Rlslog dropped offline. Put bluntly it is crass vacuous pop, and unusual for me (I usually keep at least one copy of everything) I had already deleted it before the fuss started. Perhaps the record company was aware of the particular damage that downloads / viral marketing can do to record sales when the base product is just rubbish to begin with (!)

  14. Franz Ferdinand
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:28

    filthy pirate scum

  15. grox
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:28

    websherrif? what kind of stupid whore name is that?

  16. evi1eye
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:31

    F.F are gonna give themselves a bad name! So is this going to be in a torrentnews weekly or something like that ? I would market the story… F.F done the wrong thing! They should have not gone after you in the first place. So are they going to take on google next ? I wonder mmm. LOL
    As if they have the resources :)
    regards all

  17. youpi
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:33

    Good to see you back!
    rlslog FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. NinjaGaijin
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:33

    PLZ EVERYONE GO TO THEIR MYSPACE AND FLOOD THEIR INBOX WITH MSGS ABOUT HOW GHEY THEY ARE

    I DID IT, IT WOULD BE AWESOME IF ALL REGISTERED MYSPACE USERS TOLD THEM TO FARK OFF

  19. scott
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:34

    How did they even know about rlslog…i stumbled upon it by accident. unless they use the site themselves…in which case they are damm right W@NK3R5

  20. Knowledge
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:37

    I think the net is closing in on all of the download sites. I know you don't host any of the files but if you can't find the file then you can't download it.
    It's been good….while it has lasted.
    Rlslog was the first I ever came across….and I think that is why all the back biting goes on regards your site Martin.
    No one b!tches about Rapidshare making money from pirated films and leaked albums….but for some reason they have a go at you….bizarre….very bizarre.
    Anyhows keep up the great work….your site is always the first I check for updates.
    Mike..UK

  21. MrVaiu
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:42

    Dewd … u OWN iTT!!! Nice Work. Keep it up

  22. daginger
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:44

    They just wanted to go after someone big to make them look powerful thats all

  23. anymousecat
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:49

    actualy this host feels way fast but it could be just me

  24. Giuseppe
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:50

    Good ones have won again.

  25. EvilWalks
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:51

    In order to avoid such a situation in the future, because this won't be the last time this happens, why not just link to a google search for the release? Rather than linking directly to torrent sites? And maybe ban members posting rapidshare links? It's harsh, i know, but at least it might keep the sniper's at bay.

  26. chineseguy
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:52

    god these people and their stupid complaints, rlslog wins again!

  27. January 20th, 2009 | 13:56

    Cheersss !

  28. Glenn
    January 20th, 2009 | 13:59

    1 whole week without RLSLOG !!!!! DAMN!!!! i coped better when the missus left me for my next door nrighbour… LOL WELCOME BACK GUYS

  29. Death260
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:00

    i'm glad to have you back rlslog :)

  30. w0000t
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:01

    its alliiivveee !!!!

  31. hitman47
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:09

    ohh….finally u guyz back phew…

  32. pt
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:12

    franz ferdinand suck anyway.

    i think it would be a good idea for rlslog to not post anymore of their stuff.

  33. dco
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:12

    i think you can actually sue you hosting company now :)

    anyway:
    you wrote: “learn to type" and "One would thing this is the end of the story" in the same paragraph :p
    it's "One would thinK"!
    i lol'd :)

  34. RIOT
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:13

    RIOT EVERYONE RIOT

  35. Heh
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:15

    "One would thing this is the end of the story."
    And there you were laughing at them for missing 'l'…

  36. Ban RS Links
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:18

    You guys should just ban all RS links that are posted in the comments section. Not even to cave into their demands, just because they are annoying and clutter the comments. Half of them are fake/trojans anyways.

    If people had half a brain they would know how to find the files themselves anyways.

  37. bdv
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:20

    What a bunch of morronic idiots !
    RLSLOG rof reve !

  38. Heh
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:21

    "Of course, I inquired with our host what’s going on, but they seemed to not really care about reaplying fast."
    Wow… Someone please release PROPER to this post…

  39. ydm
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:23

    I never realized how often i visited this site till it was gone. For this reason i will not buy any thing from Domino Records

  40. Whatever
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:25

    WOOHOO!!!!

    Im a 14 year old kid and I'm gonna write something super intelligent, like… RLSLOG PWNS ALL!!!

    When in fact, Rlslog was taken OFFLINE for DAYS by a pathetic little agency, working for one stupid record label, representing a sad little band… when all other sites on the net linking to, or actually hosting said material weathered the storm just fine…?

    So in your little 14y/o wanna be l33t speak… Rlslog got PWN'D

  41. loco
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:37

    It seems a bit harsh to be overly critical of the hosting company, apart from the lack of communication. They are running a business which attracts more than its fair share of attention from litigators. You *know* that RLSLOG can be considered a hot potato. In that respect you cannot consider yourself to be a 'normal' customer. Whether that is right or wrong is an open question, but it's just how things are.

    So, instead of expecting a hosting company to take a moral stand for you and expend their own money (which would also damage the service they offer all their other customers who do not receive this type of attention), you should instead sign on with a hosting company who is aware of and agrees up front to defend the issue. You will most likely not find one, because they are all businesses trying to make some profit from hosting web sites, not legal crusaders trying to fight the copyright fight.

    If you genuinely believe that your rights as a customer are being infringed, look through your contract and file a breach notice. Otherwise, prepare to put your money where your mouth is and hire a lawyer to actually win a case in court with regards to the current legal grey area of linking to pirated material.

  42. Arild
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:39

    Good to have you guys back.
    To Whatever: Whine to your mother.

  43. another_martin1617
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:39

    I am not going to hear Franz Ferdinand anymore (lousy bastards).

  44. another_martin1617
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:39

    I am not going to hear Franz Ferdinand anymore (lousy bastards).

  45. Big Pan of Scouse
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:45

    Welcome back RLSlog.
    I find it strange that one sad bunch of mofo's can use a company to try and shut you down without checking to see if you are actually guilty of what you are accused of.
    Is there no form of regulatory body that oversees such activities and deem them illegal
    As previously stated maybe it would be best to dump the RS links as most are links to trojans or viruses
    FF SUCKS

  46. Rodrigo
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:49

    You definitely Rock, mate! Long live RLSLOG!!
    Cheers

  47. ur back!!
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:50

    damn nice to have u back guys

  48. Umm
    January 20th, 2009 | 14:52

    Umm… isn't it said as "are posted" and several other words were misspelled like other people have stated before me. You can't make fun of them when you're typos suck just as much lol. Dur.

  49. joshua.mcgregor
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:02

    Nuked, get proper

    RLSLOG.back.online.what.really.really.happened.2009.PROPER.txt-L2SPL

  50. MA
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:02

    Congrats, well done… You should pursue it further, though. With both your provider and web sheriff… Justice for all!

  51. may
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:09

    i hope you have learned your lesson and REMOVE all RAPIDSHARE LINKS. we dont need them the torrent that is allready posted link to is enough.

  52. Mini Me
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:10

    Franz Ferdinand sucks anyways… I would not even waste thought or bandwidth on this crap.

    I have not bought music since 1998. NO Sherrif will not catch this cowboy…

  53. Kane
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:19

    Why not post rapidshare links ? post rapidshare links but use another domain say " http://websheriff.com/1827394/ferdinand.mp3" and let users substitute websherieff with rapidshare

  54. piglett666
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:20

    everyone should band together and DDoS the web sherif site with bots and the like…

  55. joshuatly
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:24

    piracy lose. download users win!

  56. neverbackdown
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:35

    Way to go ! keep up the great work !

  57. The Truth
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:36

    Power to the people!

  58. jen
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:40

    oh you definetly get best customer-service award!!
    thanks for your time, skills and hard work every single day
    to make rlslog what it is: simply the best!
    because we're worth it..! xxx

  59. kodabar
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:44

    It's nice to hear people are so supportive.

    RLSLog is providing information on pirate releases. Whilst there's currently a legal loophole in that the site doesn't actually host any illegal content, this situation will not last forever.

    In the meantime, anti-piracy outfits like WebSheriff just ignore the site owners and go straight to the hosts or bandwith providers. These people are running a business and aren't interested in the technicalities of a legal arguement about hosting vs links. So they just switch off the site. At worst, they lost one customer. So why should they care?

    I doubt Franz Ferdinand know anything about this. It's most likely the record company taking this action because the downloads impact on their profits more than on the band's. Chances are, they've got a standing agreement with WebSheriff and they simply provide them with a list of stuff to search for.

    Martin behaved fairly well in this, but a lot of this could perhaps have been prevented if he hadn't decided to be funny over the spelling of RSLog (it's not like Martin is the king of grammer and spelling anyway). Clearly WebSheriff didn't understand his point and just moved up the list to hit the host. And it worked. WebSheriff won.

    So now RSLog's back with the relevant article deleted. This will happen again. And keep happening until a change in the law regarding what "publishing" is exactly.

    Oh and for all those who wish to attack WebSheriff: I really wouldn't. Running a DDOS attack against them is illegal… really illegal. It's not a grey area like links. And no doubt this has happened to WebSheriff before and they have the means to deal with it. And they're certainly prepared to use the law.

    If you really want to do something about WebSheriff, why not complain to them directly? They can be found at 2 Queen Caroline St, Hammersmith, London, W6 9DX. It's a suite of offices where they occupy just one. It's run by John Giacobbi. Or why not look up their domain registration and note that their registered address is incorrect (which is in breach of registration rules) and target them that way?

  60. OO
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:45

    No offence Martin, but if you're going to point out bad spelling and grammer in other people's work, you should at least check your own articles for typos.

    Having said that, well done for getting Releaselog back online. We're all grateful for your effort, and we know you did nothing wrong, even if your soppy web hosts don't think so!

    :)

  61. glon
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:46

    You guys DO realize that Franz Ferdinand might have NOTHING to do with this WHATSOEVER? Theire record company can pursue the goal without the band's prior knowledge. I'm just saying.

  62. doktorzoom
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:52

    welcome back…home sweet home page

  63. skribble
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:57

    *reinstating meh good ol' homepage*
    firefox was getting really hungry without your daily rss feeds :)

  64. Kane
    January 20th, 2009 | 15:59

    Glad your back guys :D

  65. outsmarting
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:02

    finally….i thought i could never getting a very good post from rlslog again……it's good to have you back online =)

    *standing applause* for your hard work guys!!!

  66. lifeisgood
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:05

    Back to the HOTTEST RELEASES from the best website EVER !!!

    Welcome back Guys … I' MISSED YOU :(

  67. RONN
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:07

    Thanks for getting back up. We need u guys for the hottest info on the latest scene releases. And keep providing us those links.

  68. Martin
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:15

    Martin, thanks for being so dedicated! Keep up the good work! If you really can't find a good hosting, contact me and we can talk details. I have connections that take pride in following the law, and won't get scared by false accusations.

  69. christian
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:17

    did anyone know the email of the band ?

  70. Studydude
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:19

    Now that stupid band is getting free exposure. It seems like they, the distributors, are hyping the album and in the end, they come out ahead. Let them rot!

  71. squee
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:26

    YEA! Welcome back!

    We missed you :)

  72. iX
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:30

    i thought everyone knew this was rslog ;)

  73. AnonX
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:35

    can you make this sticky for a few more hours?

  74. Daniel Holm
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:37

    Nice to have you back, guys!

    Keep up the rockin'!

  75. Voice of Reason
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:42

    Martin the only solution is to kick Will out of the team, and even better knock his teeth out. That's the only way rlslog will prevail against stupidity.

  76. Hanso
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:44

    Nice one Martin. I missed this site while it was down, its the best.

  77. Gonzo
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:52

    Web sheriff have to understand that bands make more money in this case because it's proven that people at the shows it's like 60%more.And most of people use it just to try the album.
    Since rlslog don't host anything illegal or copyrighted please web sheriff dont quit your daily job and hope your health will be ok because i really think it WILL NOT

  78. asdasd
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:55

    Glad you're back. Web sheriff is a joke.

  79. koper
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:57

    great guys

    it is back

    f@@k the sheriff

  80. asd
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:58

    oh yeah, I'm glad i downloaded Franz Ferdinand’s lousy album, wasn't worth paying for anyway..if you like it buy it..wasn't the case here though..

  81. roarshade
    January 20th, 2009 | 16:59

    I was restless when I couldn't surf rlslog. Love to see you guys come back. The web sheriff is just plain stupid.

  82. Devious
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:00

    Im going to download that album about 99999999 times just to piss them off now. :D

  83. Me
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:02

    kodabar: The domain is registered to Bite IT (well, the same address), their web design company. It's a pretty common thing to have a single company taking care of the web presence, including hosting and domains, so if that's the case here, the registration is actually correct.

    Now, DDoS is illegal that's true, but it can be done in ways that's very hard to backtrack. The simplest way is to find a file storage site that allows comments and allows html in those comments. Now upload something really popular and in the comment include an 1×1 iframe that loads something like their mainlogo.jpg (22KB) of simply their front page through a referrer-stripping service, and advertise the download someplace nice and busy… Now sit back and watch their Microsoft-IIS/6.0 based site go down in flames… All hits will come from thousands of random IP's from all over the world. There's no referrer to give up where the link came from, and each downloader won't notice the few extra KBs when viewing the loaded comment. This attack cannot be stopped because there's no way to find the page from where the iframe loads the site, and should it be stopped through random events, just repeat as needed. Javascript can also be used of course.

  84. P11maf
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:03

    Why does it say former admin on your email to the band?

  85. saiyani
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:08

    Glad to see u back!!!!

  86. SpaceGhost
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:12

    Hey, my startpage came back online ;D
    I was getting worried already.

    Nice job!

  87. woods
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:12

    I wouldn't listen to Franz Ferdinand’s album if you paid me
    anyway glad your back

  88. Dan124
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:12

    Great too have the site back really missed it those couple of days it was off

  89. DJBite
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:23

    Glad to see you guys back online. I already started to get withdrawal symptoms. :-)

  90. wolfie
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:27

    good to see rlslog back

  91. Error: You have entered the wrong sum in the spam protection field. Press the back button and try again.
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:29

    75. – don't forget Dot.

  92. teach
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:39

    Freedom of speech and all that!!!!!

    people just cant handle the internet Gen.
    We want it NOW!!

  93. VIshy27
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:42

    gr8 to have u backs guys!!!…

    i think WEBSHERIFF totally lost his nuts!!

  94. murdoch1234
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:42

    welli can see they are taking piracy very seriously these days.but im not sure why anyone would care if franz ferdinand
    was releasing a monkey into the wild never mind an album.its aa shame they wasted the RLSLOG's staff time and patience.love the site by the way

  95. Sell it to make money for yourselves
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:46

    I downloaded franz ferdinands album, then made hundreds of copies which I sold for profit, just to make absolutely sure no money went to the band or record labels.

    Ive already sold 121 Cds at $5 a piece.

  96. Dellhi
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:52

    Web Sherif = "no-lifer"

    I'm glad to see this site back online!
    It realy is my nr. 1 site to find some nice downloads.

    Keep up the very nice job!
    Many Greetz Dellhi

  97. scudie
    January 20th, 2009 | 17:58

    Good to see the page back. I missed you guys! Even though the quality of articles has been deteriorating of late.

  98. indya
    January 20th, 2009 | 18:05

    Long live RLSLOG!…. WE lOVE U NOW MORE THAN EVER!!!!!

  99. Samurai
    January 20th, 2009 | 18:05

    Excellent job man, we are glad that you are back!
    Web Sherif what a f… is that all about, who let them in?

  100. Enjie Benjie
    January 20th, 2009 | 18:19

    Glad to see this site back online, i like many others here visit here frequently and we are truly gratful for the work you do. For those guys who say they don't care about this site why waste your time posting here when you don't like it here and don't care whether these guys get shutdown or not, y'all like to have your cake and eat it too…

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