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RIAA goes crazy: mp3 ripping is illegal

effrey Howell of Scottsdale stands accused of placing 54 music files in a specific “shared” directory on his personal computer that all users of KaZaA and other “peer-to-peer” software could access — pretty standard grounds for an RIAA lawsuit. However, on page 15 of a supplemental brief responding to the judge’s technical questions about the case, the RIAA’s Phoenix lawyer, Ira M. Schwartz, states that the defendant is also liable simply for the act of creating “unauthorized copies” — by ripping songs from CDs. “I couldn’t believe it when I read that,” New York lawyer Ray Beckerman told the Washington Post. “The basic principle in the law is that you have to distribute actual physical copies to be guilty of violating copyright. But recently, the industry has been going around saying that even a personal copy on your computer is a violation.”

In other words, according to Schwartz’s logic, every single person who’s ever “ripped” a CD for portable listening on an iPod or other MP3 player could be liable for astronomical damages. Apple itself estimated earlier this year that only 4 percent of music on iPods worldwide had been purchased through iTunes, implying that most of the rest had been ripped from CDs. In October, Jammie Thomas, a Minnesota single mother, was ordered to pay the record companies $220,000, or $9,250 for each of 24 songs a jury found she’d shared online. Are these twats totally out of their mind? Putting a lawsuit against someone who legally bought a CD and then ripped it to mp3 so he can listen the songs on his mp3 player, that’s the last proof of how idiotic this bloody company is…

Source: Fox, Washington Post 

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  1. beany
    January 2nd, 2008 | 03:49

    Again, most of you are missing my main point. The law suit in question is not about “ripping” music from ones CDs. The sources RLSlog cited or not correct. This case is a matter of downloading and uploading music illegally, and has zero to do with the ripping of CDs.
    http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/30/riaa-not-suing-over-cd-ripping-still-kinda-being-jerks-about-it

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  3. goatman
    January 2nd, 2008 | 05:04

    you are kidding me.. i rip mp3s because cds scratch and stuff up in the end so i guess its wrong to do that, the riaa are way past desperate now! its so weak i could almost cry,

  4. one-shady-thug
    January 2nd, 2008 | 05:20

    Stand on your peg-legs proudly, raise ya hooks 2 the sky and repeat after me…… F_U_C_K THA R_I_A_A AARRRGGGGHHHHHH

    Now raise the Jolly-Roger. Set sail n give it 2 the pricks.

    OST

  5. joe
    January 2nd, 2008 | 05:59
  6. Kei
    January 2nd, 2008 | 06:26

    this is crazy! who hasn’t ripped a music from a cd to his/her computer?

  7. DeepFreeze
    January 2nd, 2008 | 07:58

    RIAA need to have their a$$es spanked…

  8. Gaxx
    January 2nd, 2008 | 10:50

    even if it were true, which has been proven that it isnt

    it wouldnt affect us australians. our copyright reforms that came in a few years back made this legal

  9. hfghfgh
    January 2nd, 2008 | 12:43

    you’re all full of talk and no action.
    beat up riaa employees. scratch their cars.

    go here for a list of all the wankers that work with riaa.
    if you know someone that works for one of these companies…
    punch them in the nose…

    http://www.riaa.com/aboutus.php?content_selector=aboutus_members

  10. Simon
    January 2nd, 2008 | 13:24

    I used to buy a CD on occasion out of guilt, for a gift or out of a desire to support an artist I really liked.

    But the RIAA and affiliates have pissed me off with their bullying that now I share as much as I can as often as I can to bring about their demise.

  11. kiac
    January 2nd, 2008 | 14:41

    Well this is why Australia is just … better. Mid-last year they scrapped this law … i think. But that’s just rediculous. Even that single mum, i remember hearing about that, she had 24 songs, which is what, $30? and she has to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars, that’s just stupid!

  12. dan
    January 2nd, 2008 | 18:26

    *Sigh* After reading this thread from start to finish, I can see that the massive majority of the people that post replies are equal to children calling names in the schoolyards.

    If the posters that keep stating that “we cannot be prosecuted because we live here” would get off the couch and check the local laws at the library, they will see that there is almost no place in the world that the RIAA cannot reach via Interpol and their agreement with them. The RIAA has already tried to prosecute people in the Netherlands, HAVE prosecuted and convicted people in Russia and Brazil. Had out of court settlements in England and Australia. Got the Mounties and the Canadian Government to close down or block some p2p sites for music. I mean my God people, Prince (with the backing of the RIAA and the International federation of the Phonographic Industry (the international version of the RIAA) has filed suit against the Pirate bay in the US-France-Israel-Sweden (and has added the UK and Australia to this suite) http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9814504-7.html and he is going after p2p people. So just because you dont live in the US does not mean that the RIAA and their cabal cannot reach out and tap you on the shoulder and then snatch your ignorant rears into court. And if you think this cannot happen to you, then God help you as you are lost.

    As for ripping a copy of your cd or movie for your own personal use, that is allowed already in the US and has been for the last 30+ years. I guess all you so-called experts have not even bothered to check out the US Supreme Court “Betamax” decision handed down in the 1970’s that gave a person the right to make copies of TV shows-movies (via vhs tapes then) and music for their own personal use. That law is still in effect today.

    If this is the best the schools can do is turning out obvious no-nothings who rant first and check the facts later, then God help us as humanity is doomed.

  13. DefconDte
    January 2nd, 2008 | 21:09

    Thank god i live on the Moon

  14. Deacon Thorn
    January 2nd, 2008 | 21:34

    @112

    Re: the “Betamax” decision…

    I forgot about that ruling until you brought it up.

    Does the ruling still hold up and is the ruling all inclusive for digital media, and digital recording technology, because the ruling was originally for tape recording.

    or, in other words, can “da coppaz” break into your house and bust you for recording the news on a DVD recorder.

  15. blackfalme of sweden
    January 3rd, 2008 | 00:33

    I live in sweden, and the RIAA piss me off just as much as someone living in the US…

  16. R
    January 3rd, 2008 | 09:43

    Hahahaha, at present if I got stung at that cost per song I would owe them; $61,105,500… Now, me thinks that they’re just being greedy. Try pinging everyone who has music on their personal computer, and become the richest organisation in the world. Heh - go figure.

  17. Jone
    January 3rd, 2008 | 11:02

    so ? who cares :\

  18. Derek
    January 3rd, 2008 | 19:30

    First off, this news isn’t “fake”. While the RIAA is suing him for having files in his shared folder, they are actually referring to ripping CDs as illegal in their legal documents… which is significant.

    Secondly, saying the RIAA is a company is technically incorrect, but not far off. They are a trade group that represents the spectrum of major American recording companies. It’s not like people are completely missing the point by saying “company”. We all know it’s the actions of large corporations that are pushing the anti-piracy front.

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