RIAA goes crazy: mp3 ripping is illegal
effrey Howell of Scottsdale stands accused of placing 54 music files in a specific “shared” directory on his personal computer that all users of KaZaA and other “peer-to-peer” software could access — pretty standard grounds for an RIAA lawsuit. However, on page 15 of a supplemental brief responding to the judge’s technical questions about the case, the RIAA’s Phoenix lawyer, Ira M. Schwartz, states that the defendant is also liable simply for the act of creating “unauthorized copies” — by ripping songs from CDs. “I couldn’t believe it when I read that,” New York lawyer Ray Beckerman told the Washington Post. “The basic principle in the law is that you have to distribute actual physical copies to be guilty of violating copyright. But recently, the industry has been going around saying that even a personal copy on your computer is a violation.”
In other words, according to Schwartz’s logic, every single person who’s ever “ripped” a CD for portable listening on an iPod or other MP3 player could be liable for astronomical damages. Apple itself estimated earlier this year that only 4 percent of music on iPods worldwide had been purchased through iTunes, implying that most of the rest had been ripped from CDs. In October, Jammie Thomas, a Minnesota single mother, was ordered to pay the record companies $220,000, or $9,250 for each of 24 songs a jury found she’d shared online. Are these twats totally out of their mind? Putting a lawsuit against someone who legally bought a CD and then ripped it to mp3 so he can listen the songs on his mp3 player, that’s the last proof of how idiotic this bloody company is…
Source: Fox, Washington Post
Comments(118)
OMG RIAA is gone mad but who cares they can’t stop anything !!!
im just going to say
“dont bite the hand that feed you”
the RIAA and MPAA dont know that…
sigh…more RIAA b*llsh*t
Well good that I don’t hav to give a sh** about the RIAA as long as I live in the UK..
must be crazy ass americans…or stupid rednecks
What an idiots at RIAA… I bet even (teh kids offa) RIAA-executives have their pc’s full off illegal stuff, music, vids, softs and what not.
ps, I really dig the picture you included in the post, lol, gave me a blast.
So glad the RIAA is an American disease.
There’s already people suffering from the extreme stupidity of this law in Finland
Basically if you buy a CD here and make any kind of copy from it, shall it be to your car or to your mp3 player, then you’re making as big of a copyright violation as stealing the god damn CD from the shop in the first place.
There was a big controversy about this, but nowdays nobody really cares about it and most don’t even know such law exists.
When this law came in place, the politician who strongly wanted the law to go through was given an mp3 player as a christmas present for her kid.
Wickido, I will go one further and bet you that most RIAA executives have a HD full of kiddie pr0n! Those are some sick people with no common sense whatever. Then again, most people who become an ‘executive’ are.
Man, if ripping for your own use is really THAT illegal I would own those idiots hundreds of millions in damages!
“Apple itself estimated earlier this year that only 4 percent of music on iPods worldwide had been purchased through iTunes”
Source?
Thank god i live in brazil.
Man, this is getting out of hand…
Ksawery, you say you dont have to worry bout the RIAA cause you live in the UK? Think again man as they have entered into an agreement with Interpol and they can come at you in England just as quick as they can here in the states, all they have to do is have an attorney over there on retainer and you can be charged under English law. Check your London Times or the Gardian as both have had stories about people being nailed for posting songs to the net, and prosecuted by the RIAA under English law.
maxposting, all you have done with your post is show your total ignorance. If you would have bothered to use your keyboard and check instead of letting your mouth over run your brain and common sense, you would have seen that the RIAA are located in New York City and California. Both of which are the two most liberal states (progressives as they call themselves now) in the US. As such while they may be crazy assed Americans, they clearly are not “rednecks” And calling someone a “redneck” to their face here in the states would be a VERY good way to need a dentist as it is just as offensive to people here as it would be for me to call you a burking arsehole if I were in England.
I see you completely seem to ignore the ” Don’t be rude” statement at the head of this thread. May I remind you that people have been banned completely from this webpage for less then what you posted.
Makes me happy that I dont live in the US; but then again, makes me think that RIAA are clutching at thin, long polystyrene tubes as a last ditch effort.
Thank god I live in India..
yes we will sue every single person who has ever ripped from a Cd they brought, we will then crucify all those who ripped those songs to the “My music” folder (default for Kazaa sharing) and as for those who dare to download this material…
btw what is the “Sum of 3 + 9 ?”
Meh, just download.
what happened to making a copy to listen to and keeping the original safe and scratch free. they expect me to put a cd in my car and when it gets scratched i should go buy another copy!!! these guys are TARDS
what is this small thing beside the c0ck_ in the picture?
Thank allah i live in iraq, yeah we get bombed everyday but at least the RIAA arent giving me sh*t for downloading phill collins.
… makes me glad i live in somalia.
As you think of it RIAA is a terrorist organisation. What are they against? Invisible people sharing something without harming anybody. What are they accused of? Preventing multimillionaires to win a few more millions. In that case, inflation and stock market, also government expenses and taxes must be caught and put behind bars.
Just look how much damage they’ve done! It’s true i’m downloading some albums. But if i dont download them, i’m not going to buy them either.
Think about closed communities. Think about demonoid. That was just hell good of a community i visit everyday, and learn way too many movies, bands, comics i didnt even heard of.
IRAA is against people and against culture. In that way they’re against development, freedom and of course future!
the RIAA are getting stupider by the day, if it wasnt for the consumer, there wouldnt be an RIAA, and they seem to think that by prosecuting the consumer solves everything. i am glad i live in the UK but i know people over here have been charged with copyright infringement.
if they prosecuted me for my 25.5GB of “legit” music id owe them millions, they just dont seem to understand that they exist because we the consumer – exists
LOL, d1ck on the pic…it’s Mr. X’s
RIAA bunch good for nothing moneygrubbers.
u serious ?? like i cant rip my own CDs ,, i am downloading instead..
Thank god i live in Hati, i feel so Safe.
well, if I can’t rip the CD’s I PURCHACED, then I might as well just download them. No harm done.
this is getting beyond a joke!
“Thank god i live in Hati, i feel so Safe.”
Thats doesnt mean that RIAA cant sue you
to eTheBlack, it was a joke lol, because Hati is one of the most dagerous places on earth. get it?
What surprises me is that people still use kazaa.
The best thing to do now would be to stop buying CDs. At least for about 2 or 3 months… If every one in US would do this that would turn the tides..
crap like this is really making me sick of being an american.
In Norway, creating MP3 files for personal use is legal. Similarly, copying a friend’s CD is legal as long as you make the copy for your personal use, not for distribution or sale. Great, isn’t it? You’re even allowed to download MP3 files from the net as long as you don’t sell or distribute them. … gotta love Norway!!
Thank God I live in Jupiter. Earth Sucks!
Don’t worry the RIAA are a dying breed.
They cannot stand in the face of evolution.
Evolve or die…….. and seemingly they are choosing to die
How do these filthy animals sleep at night, knowing they have
first handedly brought so much unnecessary harm and suffering upon A INNOCENT! YES INNOCENT! lady and her family !
God damn they make me ANGRY!……Always do your bit to vocalize against this mob ALWAYS!
I live in Australia, and the RIAA still piss me off just as much as someone living in the US…
to simbad
Haiti of course isnt the most dangerous place on earth
the USA is… then Iraq then probaly on stadium betwen fans of Man and Liverpool (hooligans) and then I would say Haiti <- Get it?
Yay!
I say yay because I think many of those who have been supporting the RIAA even through their lawsuits will see this as insane. Hopefully once that happens and the RIAA moves in to ban all MP3 players and the MPAA sets in to discontinue DVD players that can play -R disks the supporters will realize its hopeless and insane.
Yeah, I enjoyed watching download this movie 2.
@ oblodo, same here in the dutchlands, gotta love it.
What I do not understand is that people actually make a copy of their original CD to prevent it from getting scratched… It’s like using an old pc instead of your new laptop because you’re afraid it’s gonna crash or get damaged. It’s supposed to be used, duh! And then there is this other group who download a DVDrip movie and when they like it, they ’say’ they buy it in stores. What’s the use in that?! So then you have two perfect copies of a movie, and only use the downloaded one because you’re probably afraid to get the original one scratched. Kinda twisted from my perspective, lol. In this world there are multiple ways to intrepret FREEdom… I’ll just interpret it my way
@ oblodo
its not legal to download anymore, they changed that law awhile back. it’s a commonly believed otherwise, however, this is not the case anymore.
Still, the police have a lot more serious matters to attend to, like chasing the ones who stole a bunch’o'dynamite cubes recently.
hmmm, lots of pie in the face for RIAA but no words of pity and shame for a culture of litigation that targets the most vulnerable in the community to die on the cross in the almighty corporate crusade.
There is no justice in this. The US has become Land of the Free Market, Home of the Knave. Isn’t this the second poor single mother targetted? What, they couldn’t find any DOCTORS, LAWYERS and BUSINESSMEN to sue for $200k? This is not insane, it’s criminal.
Anyway, if My Music is the default rip folder AND the default file share folder, then a good lawyer would get her off, surely? They have to prove INTENT! If it was an easy mistake, there’s no case for intent to distribute.
The RIAA has a specific definition of “authorized copy.” The question is how narrow is it? The copyright law protects the creators’ exclusive rights to control their content distribution but I think everyone should share in that right as long as they’re already profiting and continuing to profit from their work and the end users don’t make money off of their work.
By the way Martin, shouldn’t you be banned for using foul language?
F*** the RIAA!!
The RIAA isn’t a company, it’s an association.
.-
wickido: car radios are damaging CDs, there is a lot of shaking, huge working temperature range and you want to tell me its BAD to use a copy in car instead of original? Ha, no I am not that rich and stupid (like you) to intentionaly destroy all valuables i have…
Another thought – the RIAA should be a “watchdog” but NOT the entity to bring litigation.
How can RIAA be the plaintiff when they are not themselves damaged? The RIAA does not lose income from piracy. It only REPRESENTS the recording industry.
Therefore, surely a record label must itself file suit against the defendant, or a performer/band must.
All I can guess is that the RIAA is a watchdog turned bulldog, taking all the heat so the labels and artists don’t themselves get a bad reputation. How this can be justified is beyond me, as is targetting the people LEAST LIKELY to know how to defend themselves.
The entire process is evil and callous and completely out of order, it should be thrown out of court. People should bring a class action to the RIAA for … causing undue hardship… terrorism… something!
to eTheBlack, no i dont get it.the USA is not the most dangerous palce on earth. you biased (still living with his parents) european f*g. You dont know sh*it bout’ America, so shut the Fu*k up.
@16 the riaa
January 1st, 2008 | 15:13
btw what is the “Sum of 3 + 9 ?”
The answer: Your IQ
Isn’t the title of this entry misleading?
Ripping is still not illegal. Placing MP3’s in your Kazzaa share folder is seen to be distributing = illegal.
Nothing new here, move along.
@ qwe, everyone uses mp3 players nowadays… you can even plug it into your car-radio by means of USB. Flash memory is solid. Btw, I never had a disfunctional CD ever… to me it seems it’s either you old rusty car-radio or the way you treat your discs, lol.
I pay and I cant use as I want? ha ha ha!
Dude, it was a joke. A bad one yes, but a joke.
I love people who think they are “safe” because of where they live. Riiiight, like saying I can steal VWs because I live in Poland.
By this exact same law would they not have to catch people who used cassette tapes? I have boxes of those in the basement. Many were copied from friends so I didn’t have to buy my own copy of the album (google those terms kiddies).
It’s all been done before.
http://modernhumorist.com/mh/0004/propaganda/mp3.jpg
Anyone see the latest RIAA funny?
@53 CajuCLC,
You buy a book. That copy is yours. Other copies belong to other people. Use it as a doorstop, burn it, eat it, but you’re not allowed to create photocopies for your friends.
You own 1 COPY of the material. In the real world, this is called copyright. If you were a musician or artist trying to make a living, you would understand.
The evil side is how management of artists’ rights has turned into a moneymaking business in itself by middle-managers with no imagination and a control-freak streak a mile wide. That’s why, in a mass-production consumer market of millions, we still pay AU$30 for 12 songs, 10 of which we don’t necessarily want.
That’s capitalism. If you were a diabolical dollar demon, you would understand.
This story is actually false. The man being sued IS NOT being sued because of “ripping” cds, but rather he is being sued for downloading mp3s of albums he does not own. Check it out.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/30/riaa-not-suing-over-cd-ripping-still-kinda-being-jerks-about-it
^^ Typical… RLSLog does it again.
I don’t think I’ll comment anymore on “news” stories. I get my news elsewhere.
Anyhoo, some heartening reading about past _failed_ RIAA law suits. Seems actual recording industry damages are seen to be around $0.70 per song, not $9250. The precedent is set. RIAA is losing its teeth real quick.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA#File-sharing_lawsuits
yeah, I’m getting the feeling rlslog in making a habit of creating controversy and pumping up stories to get comments.
I don’t comment anymore because of this sort of thing. Not unless its release-related. er… or now.
rlslog is cr4p at posting news. Waste of time at best, downright deceptive at worst.
Very true. It’s not responsible “journalism” to just blindly report on a story without doing any research. Especially in this case, when the story makes no sense. I first read this rumor yesturday, and was so shocked by it that I immediatly looked into the validity of it, and discovered that its not true. The RIAA is NOT suing ANYONE for ripping CD’s that they purchased. Also, RLSlog, just an FYI, the RIAA is not “a company”. But rather a collection of companies all in the same industry.
The only idiots I see are the ones who use Bearshare and Kazaa.
Those programs are nothing more than spam and spyware.
wow #8, it looks like everyone in Finland will be a criminal. Unless nobody will ever listen to music. The CD will be dead in no time, so I guess it will be illegal for them to download the dollar mp3’s from itunes. LOL! You just gotta love those seniors that haven’t taken their daily diaper rash meds that we now call politicians. All politicians should be required to take prozac 10 times a day.
I dont get one thing…
They shouldnt be able to get this kind of thing through in democratic country, if the people want to share their files then they goddamn should be able to do it without intervention
easiest way would be voting the corporate-whores out from the government and replace with people who actually want to make the world a better place for the people
god damn the RIAA. i’ve never had such a hate for a corporation before. i think it’s time we brought them down… like, yesterday.
@ 62
Noone actually obeys to those laws, or enforces them
Just maybe this could be the reason for a decline in CD sales, ppl just want to boycott american music corporations.
I don’t think I can contribute anything worthwhile to the discussion other than the RIAA should perhaps consider some alternate means to keeping their riches. But in typical American fashion … sue sue sue…
I have one simple solution to the pirating problem. Lower the freaking price. If only 4 percent of music on iPods is from iTunes then the price is too high. Its as simple as that. Music costs too much, especially music downloaded from music sites.
This has been known for a while. In the EU, unless your state signed up to protect you ripping music it is indeed copyright infringement according to the Copyright Directive. If anyone’s interested I’ll dig up the relevant sections of the Directive and implementing legislation for the UK.
The main problem is that the RIAA is blind to the fact that they are the cause of this. When CD’s came out they charged MORE for the exact same music on a cheaper medium. Their greed caused people to lose faith in the industry, this in turn allowed people to easily justify downloading pirated music.
They should apologize to the public for being greedy and short sighted and then lower the prices that they charge. Only a complete freaking idiot would disagree. If that’s you then I am sorry…mainly because I know that you will probably win a Darwin award one of these days.
The most important thing most people are missing is that the RIAA is getting your personal information by forcing your provider to give it up in connection with your ip. Now correct me if I’m wrong but in Canada that is called the breach of the right to privacy and therefore the provider can in no way be forced to give up its clients personal info to the douche bags. Compare it to the lawyer client or doctor patient confidentiality. YOU Americans are allowing this to happen with your votes, smarten up.
This is the reason I just download from the net. Then I don’t need to have stolen it from a shop IF I rip them. Money saved.
well i gota say
i live in american and if you blame america for these stupid laws ur crazy, you need to blame the law makers not the people, you think its are fault for these laws you gota be kidding me.this law really pisses me off. if i buy a cd and now its legaly mine i am dam sure im gonna put it on my mp3 player why cause i bought it with my money and im gonna do with it what i want, when i want. people go on blaming america for this and that but its not the people guy we are stuck in this country and most of us dont have the money to leave this god for sakin place, its bad anof we dont have health care, dental, good cars, etc etc, its all those rich replubicans,and other rich buttholes. its really time for us laws to change and most americans are scared to challange there goverment. why cause we dont have the money or resourses to even try to do anything about it. i just hope that the laws get better if not im deffinatly leaving this country cause it does not give me nothing in return..
The RIAA isn’t “a company.”
Also, it looks awkward when you writers try to integrate your own opinion in with the actual news article. It’s always out of place. Just some constructive criticism, not meant to be insulting or anything. I’d recommend quoting the source, and then starting a new paragraph for your own opinion.
The reason is because the final paragraph goes on to talk about a woman that was sued, and then suddenly, it gets to your opined bit wherein you start talking about the previously mentioned court case. The structure is just terrible.
Rana:
Doing that IS the reason why the man in this article is being sued, NOT for ripping his CDs. HE is being sued because he downloaded and uploaded lots of music off/on the internet. The music he legally owns ha snothing to do with the lawsuit in question. This story is incorrect, check it out.
dumpydooby:
Here here sir! Good to see someone else voicing that opinion. Every time I see someone call the RIAA a “company” or “corporation” I shiver. It leads me to believe that MANY people have strong feelings about something they really don’t understand.
The more desperate the RIAA gets, the more extreme it will react.
I just wanted to jump in and join the chorus…
F U C K T H E R I A A !!!
QUOTE: BlackPlastic
January 1st, 2008 | 17:39
How can RIAA be the plaintiff when they are not themselves damaged? The RIAA does not lose income from piracy.
LOL … True, it doesnt lose money from piracy…. it MAKES money from piracy, so who is the pirate now by definition ?
All the more reason to come to Canada, it would seem.
Have these people never heard of cassette tapes,or vhs tapes???…I swear 95% of the bands/companies that freak out about “pirates” probably had/have there OWN collection of movies/tv shows/music recorded onto those media types…
Capitalism Killz…
I read a discussion of this issue on another forum, where Ray Beckerman was actually participating. I skimmed over most of it, since it got rather long and technical, but the jist was this;
Ripping CDs IS making an unauthorized copy, however it is not classified (yet) as copyright infringment. All the use of the word “unauthorized” means is that the record company did not specifically authorize people to make MP3 (or whatever) copies of the music, even though they currently have the right to do so under the USA’s “fair use” doctrine.
The discussion partcipants agree on this point, but disagreed on the RIAA’s reason for bringing this up. The article’s author seemed to think that they just wanted to have the ripped files classified as “unauthorized” so that he could be formally charged with distributing unauthorized copies. Ray Beckerman seemed to feel that the RIAA had something more under-handed up its sleeve and that they’re trying to get the judge to rule that people don’t have the right to rip CDs for their own, personal use.
Either way, unauthorized doesn’t equal illegal, at least not yet…
Greetings from Canada.
Can’t put the demon back in the box. Somebody whould have been dealing with this when it was an emerging technology, not years after the fact when it’s firmly entrenched in all our lives . . .
Canada is poised to follow the U.S. lead in digital copyright protection, turning from being one of the most liberal (It’s all okay as long as it’s for non-commercial, personal use) to a fascist state like U.S. Mourn for us, world, a once great country is going down the frigging tubes right before all your eyes . .
@dumpydooby and beany:
though I’m from holland (’where the f*kc you from?’, that’s a nice song by the way), I agree on your comment, though, isn’t even better to be calling RIAA an ‘agency’? Another thing; I always find it strange to see people whos native language is English (UK/USA) lacking skills when it comes down to structure and vocabulary (not pinpointing any staff-members though, just mainly the people who comment around here). When people like that are starting to make a point, I find myself not taking them serious lol. I’m just wishing that will change around here.
So ripping CD’s is the same as downloading illegally.
That makes almost everyone guilty of piracy.
I bet every relative of riaa employees has ripped a
cd. They should go check their children’s computers
and take THEM to court.
LOL
All this things can became a first idea of information revolution agains copyright laws, because it makes us feel that we not free. As I know we have many revolutions for freedom and I can’t belive that USA who likes freedom so much create laws like these ones.
Who the feck is effrey, is it jeff on an E
How about you violate his pute & get his real name then post it here for all to see.
You seem to like doing that sort of skit here.
Andy
For once, I’m glad to be born in europe.
beany:
AFAIK one are allowed to download music we already own on CD. If not, it must be deleted within 24 hours.
Also… why purchase the CD (if you don’t use the CD), when it is being offered online a lot cheaper? I know many does this. They purchase the CD – rip it – then transfer it to their mp3 player.
But of course, it that music is being shared, that’s the users fault. But I try to steer clear from that stuff.
nearly all people that live in the Modern World will have SOMETHING pirated. I don’t know anyone that doesn’t have anyone pirated
I bet some of the people in the RIAA have stuff.
thank god i never rip my cd’s. i just download them off kazaa, so that makes me safe
@88
i’m always glad i was born in europe
Pc torrents dont just ruin companies – its also radio and terrestrial t.v – why go out and buy a season when that season is currently bieng aired on t.v. or why go out and buy a single when youve just recorded it onto tape off the Top 20? MPAA, RIAA whateverAA, deep down there glad about PC downloading because its the only way to prove 100% that somebody has got a copy of a product without purchasing it.
If companies are so bothered about profit why dont they ban it bieng aired on t.v/radio? Thats easily where alot of % profit has been missed out on – not just PC downloading.
Or why dont companies like MPAA or RIAA.. BAN.. VHS/DVD/Tape recorders? Because its a losing battle that would NEVER be won – thats why they cling to PC’s by the skin of their teeth.
Any way that we could get you to link to the references to these news blurbs? If not, can I ask why?
I’d like to be able to read the entire story sometimes.
if ripping from cd’s is illegal .. . why not just download it directly? ==;
RIAA doesn’t exist on this part of the world. A perk enjoyed by third world countries!
LOL thats what i say…pretty much same as someone said above. If we cant rip our own legal music that we bought, then theres no point in buying anyway, and just for this little stunt im going to go out of my way to download music-dvd’s as well, and share them with my friends
They wanna play hardball…lets hit them where it hurts. Hey RIAA or anyone affiliated with them, dont cry when you see the sales drop another 20 mil in 08 LOL.
I get the feeling that people think these knuckle-headed ideas come from the USA because it is some EVIL entity run by the devil and his white, male assistants. It seems somewhat obvious to me that these desperate actions come out of NY and LA because that is where all of the “rights” to all this entertainment is held. Duh. If Swedes were potentially losing millions off of pirating, I’m sure they would lead the world in these actions also..
I’m not justifying this stuff, don’t get me wrong. There is NO WAY to get this genie back in the bottle. The battle is lost and they refuse to see it. I just don’t see it as some innately American idealism here. I don’t have any problem with anyone being happy they are from where they are from. Just be sensible enough to realize the reason the US is leading this insanity is because entertainment is the last great American industry and they refuse to let go of the cash cow happily. It’s not as hard to figure out as all that.
…And I second the motion that you should probably be half-assed fluent in your native language before spewing any insightful tirades against anything. If you want anyone to care what you say that is… And “text speak” does not count as being fluent in anything except faking.
great news, being false and all, well no more news from here, only release news, only thing i can trust here
Again, most of you are missing my main point. The law suit in question is not about “ripping” music from ones CDs. The sources RLSlog cited or not correct. This case is a matter of downloading and uploading music illegally, and has zero to do with the ripping of CDs.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/30/riaa-not-suing-over-cd-ripping-still-kinda-being-jerks-about-it
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you are kidding me.. i rip mp3s because cds scratch and stuff up in the end so i guess its wrong to do that, the riaa are way past desperate now! its so weak i could almost cry,
Stand on your peg-legs proudly, raise ya hooks 2 the sky and repeat after me…… F_U_C_K THA R_I_A_A AARRRGGGGHHHHHH
Now raise the Jolly-Roger. Set sail n give it 2 the pricks.
OST
So no one realized this wasn’t fully correct?
http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/30/riaa-not-suing-over-cd-ripping-still-kinda-being-jerks-about-it
this is crazy! who hasn’t ripped a music from a cd to his/her computer?
RIAA need to have their a$$es spanked…
even if it were true, which has been proven that it isnt
it wouldnt affect us australians. our copyright reforms that came in a few years back made this legal
you’re all full of talk and no action.
beat up riaa employees. scratch their cars.
go here for a list of all the wankers that work with riaa.
if you know someone that works for one of these companies…
punch them in the nose…
http://www.riaa.com/aboutus.php?content_selector=aboutus_members
I used to buy a CD on occasion out of guilt, for a gift or out of a desire to support an artist I really liked.
But the RIAA and affiliates have pissed me off with their bullying that now I share as much as I can as often as I can to bring about their demise.
Well this is why Australia is just … better. Mid-last year they scrapped this law … i think. But that’s just rediculous. Even that single mum, i remember hearing about that, she had 24 songs, which is what, $30? and she has to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars, that’s just stupid!
*Sigh* After reading this thread from start to finish, I can see that the massive majority of the people that post replies are equal to children calling names in the schoolyards.
If the posters that keep stating that “we cannot be prosecuted because we live here” would get off the couch and check the local laws at the library, they will see that there is almost no place in the world that the RIAA cannot reach via Interpol and their agreement with them. The RIAA has already tried to prosecute people in the Netherlands, HAVE prosecuted and convicted people in Russia and Brazil. Had out of court settlements in England and Australia. Got the Mounties and the Canadian Government to close down or block some p2p sites for music. I mean my God people, Prince (with the backing of the RIAA and the International federation of the Phonographic Industry (the international version of the RIAA) has filed suit against the Pirate bay in the US-France-Israel-Sweden (and has added the UK and Australia to this suite) http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9814504-7.html and he is going after p2p people. So just because you dont live in the US does not mean that the RIAA and their cabal cannot reach out and tap you on the shoulder and then snatch your ignorant rears into court. And if you think this cannot happen to you, then God help you as you are lost.
As for ripping a copy of your cd or movie for your own personal use, that is allowed already in the US and has been for the last 30+ years. I guess all you so-called experts have not even bothered to check out the US Supreme Court “Betamax” decision handed down in the 1970’s that gave a person the right to make copies of TV shows-movies (via vhs tapes then) and music for their own personal use. That law is still in effect today.
If this is the best the schools can do is turning out obvious no-nothings who rant first and check the facts later, then God help us as humanity is doomed.
Thank god i live on the Moon
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Re: the “Betamax” decision…
I forgot about that ruling until you brought it up.
Does the ruling still hold up and is the ruling all inclusive for digital media, and digital recording technology, because the ruling was originally for tape recording.
or, in other words, can “da coppaz” break into your house and bust you for recording the news on a DVD recorder.
I live in sweden, and the RIAA piss me off just as much as someone living in the US…
Hahahaha, at present if I got stung at that cost per song I would owe them; $61,105,500… Now, me thinks that they’re just being greedy. Try pinging everyone who has music on their personal computer, and become the richest organisation in the world. Heh – go figure.
so ? who cares :\
First off, this news isn’t “fake”. While the RIAA is suing him for having files in his shared folder, they are actually referring to ripping CDs as illegal in their legal documents… which is significant.
Secondly, saying the RIAA is a company is technically incorrect, but not far off. They are a trade group that represents the spectrum of major American recording companies. It’s not like people are completely missing the point by saying “company”. We all know it’s the actions of large corporations that are pushing the anti-piracy front.