Comments on: RIAA attacks continue: now Usenet

By: chris doe

chris doe — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:57:03 +0000

RIAA must die !

By: Mr. Z

Mr. Z — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:50:18 +0000

Newservers may eventually drop binary groups… As soon as they do it, you bet all bin files will start to show up in ‘normal’ newsgroups… they will never have success in this… not to mention, newsservers aren’t like normal torrent sites, without enough money to pay for top attorneys… this guys are major cash flow enterprises…

By: DejaVu

DejaVu — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:58:49 +0000

I’ve just read through all the comments on this thread and some do not have a clue what they are talking about!

Usenet.com is a company name, a logo, a slogan or probably a very expensive domain name at best.

USENET is USEr NETwork, not one specific thing, not thousands, more like a few million servers world wide by now! The RIAA as an association couldnt close THE USENET down by themselves unless the internet was practically pulled offline the world over! NEWSGROUPS back in the day was email/chat/communication. The Internet today is the evolution of USENET -> http://computer.howstuffworks.com/newsgroup.htm

If USENET is pulled from the internet, its users would plumet, BIG!

However Usenet.com WILL vanish within the next couple of months, their own stupid fault for having such a famous name and advertising the way they have!

By: Rekrul

Rekrul — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:34:12 +0000

If Usenet.com loses this case, Usenet itself is pretty much doomed. It doesn’t matter how guilty they might have been in encouraging people to download music and movies. If they lose, it will set a “precedent” which will make it that much easier to sue the next Usenet provider and win. Of course they’ll go after other easy targets. Once they have a few wins, it will pretty much become a given that Usenet providers will be considered guilty by default. Most will start dropping the mainstream binary groups for music and movies out of fear that they’ll be next. Without the lure of downloading movies and music, nobody is going to pay huge prices for unlimited monthly quotas. Their business will shrink and many of them won’t be able to keep operating. This will pretty much spell the end of Usenet as a means of distributing files.

With a good lawyer, Usenet.com should be able to beat this by claiming common carrier status, which means that they just provide the service, they don’t take an active role in deciding what to carry and what to filter out. Unfortunately, the RIAA will cherry-pick the jury with the most technologically illiterate people they can find, so that they’ll be easier to convince them that just giving people access to the newsgroups is the same as selling bootleg movies. No to mention, that judges of late have demonstrated a tendancy to ignore facts and let the RIAA/MPAA do pretty much what they want.

This case should worry anyone who uses the newsgroups for downloading files!

By: vampirescu

vampirescu — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:17:07 +0000

First the RIAA has NOT sued over 20,000 people in the past 4 years, well they tell you to pay $ ?000 or they will sue.
usenet.com deserves this for there advertising, they advertise in a way that this is the best way to get pirated software.

http://www.p2p-blog.com/item-389.html is the complete text, i like how at #24 they reprinted a story from slyck.com without permission as evidence, slyck should sue the riaa

By: Lord Vitrioluz

Lord Vitrioluz — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:39:59 +0000

Morons .

Usenet/Newsnet has been around as long as the internet it’s not a frikkin pirate program, they’re acting on behalf of frikking companys that need a buttplug for their $hit then go running to the peoples courtrooms “plzx mistarr judge gief us monayh ppl picked up our $hit on the intarwebb streetz.”

By: The Stig

The Stig — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:58:52 +0000

Uh Oh Spaghettio’s

By: MaD

MaD — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:28:16 +0000

Quote
that’s getting ridiculous.

wait a minute here
i think they have the right to sue people uploader and usenet or torrent becaue they have the right to
if u wanna call it we are stealing, yes we are
because the people who works hard to release something they have to get paid for it… but when everybody (DOWNLOADS) then one day we wont see anything at all no games to play no movies to watch etc…
they are right and we are wrong

By: the RaGE

the RaGE — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:45:23 +0000

an uploader for eztvefnet gets the tv show and uploads through both usenet and torrent. people prefer torrents coz they’re free, while others prefer usenet coz its faster.

eg on tuesday early morning(i’m in UK) i D/L heroes on usenet (always 10mins coz i have a 6mb broadband,usenet D/Ls at the fastest speed) then use torrent to D/L prison break (around 40mins depening on connection)while i watch heroes

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:39:03 +0000

Riaa must burn in hell

By: bob

bob — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:11:43 +0000

usenet dont get most things first these come from the scene….the scene is not usenet you n00b

By: lee welton

lee welton — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:39:03 +0000

Let Usenet.com fall and be the scapegoat for the RIAA. They are one greedy company who tried to get rich off of Usenet. Their advertising was flying in the face of the RIAA. Just look at this crap of theirs: http://www.usenet.com/articles/free_download.htm

By: Tesak

Tesak — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:35:05 +0000

Yeah seriously who freaking advertises that kind of stuff, millions MP3’s! LOL! Welcome to the real world Usenet.com! Still hopefully they gain the upper hand over the RIAA!

By: lee welton

lee welton — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:33:32 +0000

This lawsuit is just against Usenet.com, who deserve everything they get with their stupid advertising like “gives you access to millions of MP3 files and also enables you to post your own files the same way and share them with the whole world”.

This is not a lawsuit against the Usenet, just against Usenet.com, who will hopefully just file bankruptcy and disappear, and leave the real Usenet to people who know how to use it.

By: Tesak

Tesak — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:33:27 +0000

But they technically will not be able to shut Usenet down because its decentralized and spread across thousands of servers, not only in USA but also Europe and some Asia, so it is virtually impossible for them to shut Usenet down.

Newsproviders such as Giganews and other are vulnerable of course but I doubt that they will succeed.