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		<title>By: aussiebear</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/review-of-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-27380</link>
		<dc:creator>aussiebear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vista is coming? NO THANKS. I&#039;m done with Windows. I&#039;m done with Activation...I&#039;m done with Windows Geniune (dis)Advantage.

Haven&#039;t been gaming for over a year now, and funny enough, I don&#039;t miss it...Have been using Linux for just under 2 years. 

Using Arch Linux now. This distro puts you into a position where you build the system up the way YOU want it. While Post No. 3 says 300 to 400 MB RAM on Vista...I&#039;m sitting on less than 100MB in Linux! (Is that efficiency or what?!)...I can reduce this further by using a different desktop environment.

...I even write programs now!



Its sad that post No. 3 &quot;Wartopia&quot; has disabled UAC.

UAC stands for User-Access Control...A concept from Unix. Sadly, Micrsoft in all its genius, have made a proven, mature, 30yr concept and turned it into the most annoying pop-up implementation known to man.

Effectively, UAC is a pointless feature, as people will get annoyed with it, and like Wartopia, will disable it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vista is coming? NO THANKS. I&#8217;m done with Windows. I&#8217;m done with Activation&#8230;I&#8217;m done with Windows Geniune (dis)Advantage.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t been gaming for over a year now, and funny enough, I don&#8217;t miss it&#8230;Have been using Linux for just under 2 years. </p>
<p>Using Arch Linux now. This distro puts you into a position where you build the system up the way YOU want it. While Post No. 3 says 300 to 400 MB RAM on Vista&#8230;I&#8217;m sitting on less than 100MB in Linux! (Is that efficiency or what?!)&#8230;I can reduce this further by using a different desktop environment.</p>
<p>&#8230;I even write programs now!</p>
<p>Its sad that post No. 3 &#8220;Wartopia&#8221; has disabled UAC.</p>
<p>UAC stands for User-Access Control&#8230;A concept from Unix. Sadly, Micrsoft in all its genius, have made a proven, mature, 30yr concept and turned it into the most annoying pop-up implementation known to man.</p>
<p>Effectively, UAC is a pointless feature, as people will get annoyed with it, and like Wartopia, will disable it.</p>
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		<title>By: SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good work Jon. 

now if i could give up gaming i&#039;d join you and the other freedom loving anti-DRM linux users.

it&#039;s my achilles heel.

but even now i don&#039;t game as much as i used to.

maybe in a few more years i&#039;ll lose enough interest to dump this proprietary, closed-source piece of junk and make the move to an open non-drm os. one that doesn&#039;t have the blessing of the NSA. sure open source os&#039;s can be infiltrated but it&#039;s that much more difficult. and don&#039;t be arrogant mac users, apple &quot;cooperates&quot; with the government as much as ms does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good work Jon. </p>
<p>now if i could give up gaming i&#8217;d join you and the other freedom loving anti-DRM linux users.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s my achilles heel.</p>
<p>but even now i don&#8217;t game as much as i used to.</p>
<p>maybe in a few more years i&#8217;ll lose enough interest to dump this proprietary, closed-source piece of junk and make the move to an open non-drm os. one that doesn&#8217;t have the blessing of the NSA. sure open source os&#8217;s can be infiltrated but it&#8217;s that much more difficult. and don&#8217;t be arrogant mac users, apple &#8220;cooperates&#8221; with the government as much as ms does.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to be honest these days i dont play a lot of games i get far more entertainment out of various other things, so i genuinely am getting to the point that i can move over to suse linux 10.2 permenently. Fuck Vista suse 10.2 is much better as a desktop operating system. More secure too. you&#039;d never get people like &#039;wartopia #3&#039; complaining that the &#039;login as root&#039; thing comes up because it all works properly as a non pirvelledged user. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be honest these days i dont play a lot of games i get far more entertainment out of various other things, so i genuinely am getting to the point that i can move over to suse linux 10.2 permenently. Fuck Vista suse 10.2 is much better as a desktop operating system. More secure too. you&#8217;d never get people like &#8216;wartopia #3&#8242; complaining that the &#8216;login as root&#8217; thing comes up because it all works properly as a non pirvelledged user. <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SF</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/review-of-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-26738</link>
		<dc:creator>SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;SF - “you BUY movies/music/software”

&quot;actually, you don’t. You buy a COPY of them in some format for your own personal use, subject to terms in a licence, which is completely different. To actually “buy” a movie would cost millions of dollars! There’s a subtle distinction there, but it is important to understand.&quot;


actually, that is exactly what i&#039;m talking about.

you are convinced that you are &quot;subject to terms of a license&quot;. you are NOT! the only thing you are subject to is copyright law and copyright law doesn&#039;t say anything about licensing. you don&#039;t need a &quot;license&quot; to use a product you have paid for. 

people simply believe that all those EULAs are legally or even morally binding. they are not. the manufacturers include them and make them such a part of everyday life that people just assume they are legally bound by them.

and no, if you buy a copy of a movie/music/software you can do whatever you want with them, short of copying and redistributing them. including but not limited to, stripping out the DRM and playing back that movie on ANY device you wish, installing software on any device you want and not just what the manufacturer demands you to do (apple os x), connecting to &quot;unathorized&quot; game servers.

don&#039;t buy the bullshit that you are bound by anything.

if they want to include all these restrictions, first of all, they should be stripped of copyright protection (not copy protection, that&#039;s a different thing altogether aka DRM). copyright does not restrict use, only distribution (copying).

second, they shouldn&#039;t let people buy any digital product without a company representative there to administer a written contract, a real contract, not some pseudo-legal garbage EULA. 

a EULA is NOT a contract.

repeat that with me.

a EULA is NOT a contract.
a EULA is NOT a contract.
a EULA is NOT a contract.
a EULA is NOT a contract.

you are not legally bound by anything in it. even more so, you are not morally bound by any of the terms.

just as an aside, has anyone really read any EULAs? the stuff in there is so absurd, it ought to be illegal to read it.

they restrict you so much, THAT ought to be against the law.

a contract by definition cannot be one-sided.

after having paid for said product, then they go on and on about what you&#039;re not allowed to do with it. EXCUSE ME, you greedy pos. i just paid for it, tell me why, logically if you can, should i listen to your insane ramblings? i won&#039;t copy it and give it out to my friends (if we had sane laws i might actually follow this more often) but anything else i do with it is justified and warranted.

disgusting and obscene. 

the public needs to know that they shouldn&#039;t believe whatever the copyright cartel tells them. they have the right to use digital products in any way they see fit and not the way the manufacturer &quot;approves&quot;.

i want to pay for good software/movies/music at fair prices and with NO restrictions, as per copyright law (even the immoral version that exists in contemporary history).

DMCA? yeah, we have a moral right to follow immoral laws (aka  not in the public&#039;s benefit).... sarcasm, a fitting end to my diatribe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;SF &#8211; “you BUY movies/music/software”</p>
<p>&#8220;actually, you don’t. You buy a COPY of them in some format for your own personal use, subject to terms in a licence, which is completely different. To actually “buy” a movie would cost millions of dollars! There’s a subtle distinction there, but it is important to understand.&#8221;</p>
<p>actually, that is exactly what i&#8217;m talking about.</p>
<p>you are convinced that you are &#8220;subject to terms of a license&#8221;. you are NOT! the only thing you are subject to is copyright law and copyright law doesn&#8217;t say anything about licensing. you don&#8217;t need a &#8220;license&#8221; to use a product you have paid for. </p>
<p>people simply believe that all those EULAs are legally or even morally binding. they are not. the manufacturers include them and make them such a part of everyday life that people just assume they are legally bound by them.</p>
<p>and no, if you buy a copy of a movie/music/software you can do whatever you want with them, short of copying and redistributing them. including but not limited to, stripping out the DRM and playing back that movie on ANY device you wish, installing software on any device you want and not just what the manufacturer demands you to do (apple os x), connecting to &#8220;unathorized&#8221; game servers.</p>
<p>don&#8217;t buy the bullshit that you are bound by anything.</p>
<p>if they want to include all these restrictions, first of all, they should be stripped of copyright protection (not copy protection, that&#8217;s a different thing altogether aka DRM). copyright does not restrict use, only distribution (copying).</p>
<p>second, they shouldn&#8217;t let people buy any digital product without a company representative there to administer a written contract, a real contract, not some pseudo-legal garbage EULA. </p>
<p>a EULA is NOT a contract.</p>
<p>repeat that with me.</p>
<p>a EULA is NOT a contract.<br />
a EULA is NOT a contract.<br />
a EULA is NOT a contract.<br />
a EULA is NOT a contract.</p>
<p>you are not legally bound by anything in it. even more so, you are not morally bound by any of the terms.</p>
<p>just as an aside, has anyone really read any EULAs? the stuff in there is so absurd, it ought to be illegal to read it.</p>
<p>they restrict you so much, THAT ought to be against the law.</p>
<p>a contract by definition cannot be one-sided.</p>
<p>after having paid for said product, then they go on and on about what you&#8217;re not allowed to do with it. EXCUSE ME, you greedy pos. i just paid for it, tell me why, logically if you can, should i listen to your insane ramblings? i won&#8217;t copy it and give it out to my friends (if we had sane laws i might actually follow this more often) but anything else i do with it is justified and warranted.</p>
<p>disgusting and obscene. </p>
<p>the public needs to know that they shouldn&#8217;t believe whatever the copyright cartel tells them. they have the right to use digital products in any way they see fit and not the way the manufacturer &#8220;approves&#8221;.</p>
<p>i want to pay for good software/movies/music at fair prices and with NO restrictions, as per copyright law (even the immoral version that exists in contemporary history).</p>
<p>DMCA? yeah, we have a moral right to follow immoral laws (aka  not in the public&#8217;s benefit)&#8230;. sarcasm, a fitting end to my diatribe.</p>
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		<title>By: dsx</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be fascinating to watch who ports dx10 to XP and how the scene + HW/SW market + MS reacts to it. I can&#039;t think of any hack in recent memory that will be as famous and impact more people, since the anti-DRM encoding/burning ratio of users is still relatively small compared to the gamer segment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be fascinating to watch who ports dx10 to XP and how the scene + HW/SW market + MS reacts to it. I can&#8217;t think of any hack in recent memory that will be as famous and impact more people, since the anti-DRM encoding/burning ratio of users is still relatively small compared to the gamer segment.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re looking for a comprehensive Vista review, take a look at Paul Thurott&#039;s 8-part review over at http://winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re looking for a comprehensive Vista review, take a look at Paul Thurott&#8217;s 8-part review over at <a href="http://winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista.asp" rel="nofollow">http://winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Namath</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/review-of-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-26716</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Namath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ScytheNoire ...YOU are the FOOL if you accept what Microsoft is dishing out! 

If everyone thought like you, there would be no  one trying to change things! Try to think before you type next time. 

People WILL get around the DRM in Vista and if you think they won&#039;t, you are a bigger fool than I thought you were.  As far as people being &quot;forced&quot; to buy Vista? Think again. 

Microsoft will be pressured and eventually have direct x 10 for xp, the only reason they do not have it work on xp now is because that is really the ONLY reason for people to switch to  vista, but I don&#039;t think even THAT will force them to switch to such a piece of garbage as vista is turning out to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ScytheNoire &#8230;YOU are the FOOL if you accept what Microsoft is dishing out! </p>
<p>If everyone thought like you, there would be no  one trying to change things! Try to think before you type next time. </p>
<p>People WILL get around the DRM in Vista and if you think they won&#8217;t, you are a bigger fool than I thought you were.  As far as people being &#8220;forced&#8221; to buy Vista? Think again. </p>
<p>Microsoft will be pressured and eventually have direct x 10 for xp, the only reason they do not have it work on xp now is because that is really the ONLY reason for people to switch to  vista, but I don&#8217;t think even THAT will force them to switch to such a piece of garbage as vista is turning out to be.</p>
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		<title>By: ScytheNoire</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/review-of-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-26704</link>
		<dc:creator>ScytheNoire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Qred,

I know, I was being sarcastic since all these anti-Vista fools don&#039;t realize that to game in DirectX 10 they have to go with Vista. So next-gen HD content be damned, gaming will force people to upgrade to Vista. Personally, I can&#039;t wait for Vista to come out so I can buy a new DX10 video card. Might wait until closer to the summer for the video card, see what&#039;s out then, maybe, guess I&#039;ll have to look at the nVidia roadmap. See if they are releasing a dual-GPU 8800 card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Qred,</p>
<p>I know, I was being sarcastic since all these anti-Vista fools don&#8217;t realize that to game in DirectX 10 they have to go with Vista. So next-gen HD content be damned, gaming will force people to upgrade to Vista. Personally, I can&#8217;t wait for Vista to come out so I can buy a new DX10 video card. Might wait until closer to the summer for the video card, see what&#8217;s out then, maybe, guess I&#8217;ll have to look at the nVidia roadmap. See if they are releasing a dual-GPU 8800 card.</p>
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		<title>By: elc</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/review-of-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-26689</link>
		<dc:creator>elc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7: Format

that article is from 1999. i dont think it has any relevance</description>
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<p>that article is from 1999. i dont think it has any relevance</p>
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		<title>By: elc</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/review-of-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-26688</link>
		<dc:creator>elc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the whining about vista inst really much different than what went on before XP was released.. same shit different day...

i think we&#039;ll all survive - even with vista</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the whining about vista inst really much different than what went on before XP was released.. same shit different day&#8230;</p>
<p>i think we&#8217;ll all survive &#8211; even with vista</p>
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		<title>By: Jooboo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jooboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to install Vista any time soon. This system might be completely useless if someone will &quot;transfer&quot; DX10 to XP. That&#039;s the only thing (i mean DX10) which could FORCE me to migrate to Vista. But if DX10 can be run on XP (one way or another ;) ) there no reason to use new M$ operating system. Everything I hear about Vista assures me that it&#039;s not good idea to use it (DRM, resource usage, ammount of RAM required, the list goes on and on...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to install Vista any time soon. This system might be completely useless if someone will &#8220;transfer&#8221; DX10 to XP. That&#8217;s the only thing (i mean DX10) which could FORCE me to migrate to Vista. But if DX10 can be run on XP (one way or another <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) there no reason to use new M$ operating system. Everything I hear about Vista assures me that it&#8217;s not good idea to use it (DRM, resource usage, ammount of RAM required, the list goes on and on&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: eugeneius</title>
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		<dc:creator>eugeneius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SF - &quot;you BUY movies/music/software&quot;

actually, you don&#039;t. You buy a COPY of them in some format for your own personal use, subject to terms in a licence, which is completely different. To actually &quot;buy&quot; a movie would cost millions of dollars! There&#039;s a subtle distinction there, but it is important to understand. Although, I do agree that the people regulating these matters have made some silly decisions about how to enforce their copyrights...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SF &#8211; &#8220;you BUY movies/music/software&#8221;</p>
<p>actually, you don&#8217;t. You buy a COPY of them in some format for your own personal use, subject to terms in a licence, which is completely different. To actually &#8220;buy&#8221; a movie would cost millions of dollars! There&#8217;s a subtle distinction there, but it is important to understand. Although, I do agree that the people regulating these matters have made some silly decisions about how to enforce their copyrights&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Skeev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can a company knowinly rip off everyone.

Every company that has a pc or a 100 will have to get vista and new pcs to make the thing work.

Spending thousands - keeping the makers of pc parts busy for years trying to keep it all working.

How will this all affect XP? Bt creating a whole new world that needs to work with Vista and al media and web content - how long before our old operating systems will not be able to live in the VISTA world?

Will everyone then be forced to buy this product and spend a lot more money for an over complecated life?

The option is to convert to Mac yes..But what about a good operating system that will compete with windows as a choice.

For most people its Microsoft or nothing...they have us all by the short pubic hairs....

The richest man and the biggest company in the world....greedy bastards all of em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can a company knowinly rip off everyone.</p>
<p>Every company that has a pc or a 100 will have to get vista and new pcs to make the thing work.</p>
<p>Spending thousands &#8211; keeping the makers of pc parts busy for years trying to keep it all working.</p>
<p>How will this all affect XP? Bt creating a whole new world that needs to work with Vista and al media and web content &#8211; how long before our old operating systems will not be able to live in the VISTA world?</p>
<p>Will everyone then be forced to buy this product and spend a lot more money for an over complecated life?</p>
<p>The option is to convert to Mac yes..But what about a good operating system that will compete with windows as a choice.</p>
<p>For most people its Microsoft or nothing&#8230;they have us all by the short pubic hairs&#8230;.</p>
<p>The richest man and the biggest company in the world&#8230;.greedy bastards all of em.</p>
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		<title>By: Qred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Qred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ScytheNoire,

To my knowledge, poorly, since winXP wont support directX 10, dx10 is for Vista only.</description>
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<p>To my knowledge, poorly, since winXP wont support directX 10, dx10 is for Vista only.</p>
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		<title>By: dfx</title>
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		<dc:creator>dfx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope that until DX10 games will come to market, there will be other alternative available to play them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope that until DX10 games will come to market, there will be other alternative available to play them.</p>
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