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RCMP Tolerates Piracy For Personal Use

Posted on 11.11.2007 at 20:47 in Tech News by Mr. X

Canadian Police Tolerates Piracy For Personal Use The Canadian police announced that it will stop targeting people who download copyrighted material for personal use. Their priority will be to focus on organized crime and copyright theft that affects the health and safety of consumers instead of the cash flow of large corporations. Around the same time that the CRIA successfully took Demonoid offline, the Canadian police made clear that Demonoid’s users don’t have to worry about getting caught, at least not in Canada.

According to the Canadian police it is impossible to track down everyone who downloads music or movies off the Internet. The police simply does not have the time nor the resources to go after filesharers. “Piracy for personal use is no longer targeted,” Noël St-Hilaire, head of copyright theft investigations of the Canadian police, said in an interview with Le Devoir. “It is too easy to copy these days and we do not know how to stop it,” he added.

St-Hilaire explained that they rather focus on crimes that actually hurt consumers such as copyright violations related to medicine and electrical appliances. A wise decision, especially since we now know that filesharing has absolutely no impact on music sales. On the contrary, a recent study found that the more music people download on P2P-networks, the more CDs they buy.

If you have not already read this from torrentfreak, here’s the copy of it at rlslog. Sorry if this is too much tech news for today but this time it was good news for once 8) . We have studies proving downloading promotes CD sales, we have levies on blank media and mp3 players. Now with the official reports they confirm with common sense.

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  1. Jacooztique
    November 12th, 2007 | 11:53

    I WILL definitely move to canada after I finished my school here in the US…hahaha…

  2. Kanf
    November 12th, 2007 | 11:54

    Emm – November 12th, 2007 | 11:17
    “”"Actually Kanf, you and a bunch of others look pretty clueless to me.
    The first sentence can be interpreted, but next one, … is what it says it is!”"”

    Yeah. And what it says is they’re going to do what they have always done. Something other than target P2P downloaders, which is what anti-piracy groups and they alone do.

    If there’s only one group who targets p2p users and I’m the only person who can remember that ain’t the fkn mounties, how is it I’m the clueless one here?
    And the rest of your post sets new benchmarks for what “clueless” can be measured against.

    “”"An individual can be sued if he/sh has used a poor service and got caught or if someone supplied the necessary information to incriminate that individual.”"”

    They can also get sued under all other circumstances where they simply used p2p. Including where nothing you described occurs. Including downloading crap for personal use when living in Canada.

    It isn’t hard to figure out… if you start a torrent where you can connect to other peers you can be caught. That’s it. That’s the entire security formula.

    There are no poor services or informants necessary. YOU ARE THE INFORMANT when you broadcast your IP to the tracker as someone downloading that file, or to other peers via DHT.

    “”"2. BT related, AUTHORITIES GETTING INFORMATION STORED ON TRACKER SERVERS!. That means that THE POLICE have to raid the hosting locations and confiscate the servers from their owners.”"”

    What utter nonsense. First of all the police are irrelevant as I’ve explained several times. Copyright infringement is a civil matter. You get sued. The police aren’t involved and as such aren’t in need of any user records. What on earth would they want with them if this isn’t their job?

    Secondly, anti-piracy groups have been operating for many years and have issued many legal threats directly to P2P users. I have personally received 4. These do not require raids or access to servers, just like you don’t need this access in order to download from BT. All it requires is a BT client and an internet connection. Which is what they’ve been using for the duration.

    How bizarre that you would try to profess knowledge and advice to BT users here on this topic while knowing literally nothing about it. Not even having a vague clue as to the who, what, where or why involved.

    “”"No, no organization dealing with copyright infringement can do such thing and no, they’re not after the files, they’re after the logs of the WebServers conntaining dates and times and the urls accessed for each IP…”"”

    No they’re not. If they raid a BT site or tracker it is to secure evidence against the operators in a legal suit. This is a routine function for police and is a function of the court process where evidence in civil suits needs to be obtained.

    Nobody would ever raid a server to get user IPs from a tracker. The only function of a tracker — its dictionary freaking definition — is a service that broadcasts these IPs over the internet to anyone who queries it. It’s like saying you have to raid Google headquarters to get your search results. Er… no. You’ve failed to understand the only function the service in question has.

    You should be able to figure this out if you have ever used BT. Did you need to raid a server in order to get the IPs of others downloading something? No? Then figure out it is as easy for anti-p2p organisations as it is for you. Open the torrent… wait for the tracker response… done.

    “”"Demonoid for instance is the biggest private tracker and the second biggest tracker in the world. You think this isn’t good news for us since all that P.O.’s can do now is making empty threats against something that is PERFECTLY LEGAL? Get a life!”"”

    Which Demonoid would this be? The one that just shut down entirely in Canada because they couldn’t challenge the legal suit they faced there?
    And this has convinced you not that a BT site in Canada is certainly not immune, but apparently that it is perfectly legal. LMAO.
    So I guess if the owner of Demonoid loses his house to the CRIA that’ll be more good news for BT sites in Canada. LOL
    Teh stupidity… it burns.

  3. Emm
    November 12th, 2007 | 12:57

    “That’s the entire security formula.” That’s what I mean by clueless! Enough said! Yeah, you’re clueless!

    Don’t be so upset boy, it’s not that you said anything of value above so I’m not starting to quote the junk you spit out!

  4. Kanf
    November 12th, 2007 | 13:17

    I think everyone can appreciate that you’ll STFU now, with your childish no-nothing BS, because you just got thoroughly filled in on how utterly ridiculous *every* *single* *thing* you posted was.

    Look at your response. You again suggest you believe trackers don’t broadcast IP addresses of everyone downloading a torrent to any anti-p2p group who wants to collect them, just as every downloader does.
    Literally the only function a tracker has — the core function of BT — is something you cannot understand. You even appear to disbelieve this when told. LOL

    And you continue to call someone else clueless in a post where you repeat this. LMAO. Comedy gold.

    No doubt with the sheer level of ignorance you’ve displayed here, your idiotic assumptions about security and willingness to provide poorly thought out guesses to others as security recommendations, you’ll be a big supporter of PeerGuardian.

  5. Kanf
    November 12th, 2007 | 13:25

    I think everyone can why you’ll STFU now, considering they can all see you just got thoroughly filled in on how utterly ridiculous *every* *single* *thing* you posted was.

    I mean it’s not like you left much to the imagination is it. You actually just cited Demonoid being forced to shut down their Canadian servers completely (just like digitaldistractions was forced to before them) as a reason why it’s perfectly legal to run a BT site in Canada. LMAO.

    And look at your response. You again suggest you believe trackers don’t broadcast IP addresses of everyone downloading a torrent to any anti-p2p group who wants to collect them, just as every downloader does.

    Literally THE ONLY FUNCTION a tracker has — THE CORE FUNCTION OF BT — is something you not only not cannot understand, but you are actually disputing! LOL

    And you’ve again called the person trying to educate you about BT’s most basic function clueless. LMAO. Comedy gold.

    What’s next for you chump? Heading over to usenet to call some people clueless who tell you that newsservers are involved in that?

  6. Stu!
    November 12th, 2007 | 15:10

    Now if only Bell and Rogers would stop traffic shaping

  7. ???
    November 12th, 2007 | 19:53

    “A wise decision, especially since we now know that filesharing has absolutely no impact on music sales.”

    Are you stupid? Have you any sense of file sharing and downloading music at all? OF COURSE IT HAS AN IMPACT ON MUSIC SALES, even if it’s meager at a loss of several millions instead of hundreds of millions of dollars. If it had “absolutely no impact on music sales,” I doubt music corporations and enforcement in various countries worldwide would be bothering to stop downloaders so badly.

    I’m glad for the people in Canada. They can feel a bit safer now when they download music or videos, but none of that actually applies to us in the United States so I have no idea how any of us could ever feel safe. Even if the corporation is stationed in Canada and their police aren’t doing anything, I’m sure our government will continue to try everything they can. The worst thing that can happen is another “TorrentSpy” where site by site American’s are blocked since we are the only country trying so hard. HEY! MAYBE THEN WE’LL BE SAFE CAUSE WE CAN’T DOWNLOAD ANYTHING! There is something us American’s can rejoice about!

  8. Larry
    November 12th, 2007 | 21:07

    All of you Canadians need to just shut up. I think it is hilarious that you people claim to be the haven for file sharing, yet your country just knocked Demonoid off-line.

    And your country doesn’t even matter that much…if the US annexed Canada as a state, it wouldn’t even be our most populous state. We have states that are larger than your entire country. So you don’t have much of a voice on the world platform.

    You have a lot of frozen ground and some nice reindeer, but thats about it.

  9. IC
    November 12th, 2007 | 22:22

    The only thing larger about any states than all of Canada, is the level of stupidity and ignorance.

  10. Larry
    November 12th, 2007 | 22:29

    @IC

    Totally agree with you dude.

  11. Arnold
    November 13th, 2007 | 04:01

    IS DEMONOID COMING BACK ONLINE???
    IS DEMONOID COMING BACK ONLINE???IS DEMONOID COMING BACK ONLINE???IS DEMONOID COMING BACK ONLINE???IS DEMONOID COMING BACK ONLINE???IS DEMONOID COMING BACK ONLINE???IS DEMONOID COMING BACK ONLINE???IS DEMONOID COMING BACK ONLINE???IS DEMONOID COMING BACK ONLINE???IS DEMONOID COMING BACK ONLINE???IS DEMONOID COMING BACK ONLINE???IS DEMONOID COMING BACK ONLINE???IS DEMONOID COMING BACK ONLINE???

  12. Rave^
    January 9th, 2008 | 14:55

    @ Lynx…

    So naive…

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