Strange that rlslog gives these guys a speck of attention. It’s annoying enough i get pagefilling ads for crappy companies when i visit this website, appearing sudden so a misclick will generate you guys income and defraud the advertiser. I don’t need a post here for a spambot being advertised as the next new thing in searching for mp3’s.

Enough with the inappropriate spam and get back to reporting new releases please. Or else just quit…

http://www.gulli.com/news/qtrax-ups-wir-haben-doch-2008-01-28/
(Unfortunately German)

at any rate, no surprises really. ha. just been on the website – you can download their beta player (presumably complete with ads) to listen to your own music! awesome, a full screen media player, with adverts, to play my mp3s! now i dont need itunes, winamp, vlc, windows media player, etc, with their irritating lack of adverts! HOORAY!!!

what are those qtrax people thinking? still, good PR stunt, as long as they dont get sued!

Soulseek rocks! loads of underground music on there , hard to find hip hop albums and dnb mixes that you will have nightmares trying to find elsewhere

If you gonna compare it to trashy p2p then i think Kazza would have been better example

@22 – true, record companies seem to have given up on the A&R side of things. and true myspace has about 20 awful college/high school bands with little in the way of talent and nothing in the way of new ideas… but thats not true of everyone on myspace (obviously), and if youre willing to do the A&R person’s job yourself, and trawl through all the rubbish to find the gems, theyre all the more rewarding and personal when you do find them. im not going to list any examples because tast is totally subjective, but in the past couple of years ive discovered 7 or 8 bands and artists whos music has moved me deeply… its just unfortunate that myspace doesnt do any discerning – perhaps they should kick off bands who get a certain amount of friend request rejections?

and i dont agree that giving music away necessarily devalues it. i dunno, its a moot point, but radiohead made more money out of in rainbows than their previous album, even though most people didnt bother to pay for it.

like 19, ill mostly stick to piracy, and keep buying hard copies of the music that i really like.

“If i have to listen to another 20 year old with an acoustic guitar , wanting to tell me about life…..screw those dooshbags.”

Awsome points u made dude. Somewhere between all those promos, hypes and gimmicks, collectibles, toures and what not, music itself is lost.

If Amazon had MP3`s for 99 Cents a piece that would be ok.
Up until now , one of the biggest problems is the selection.
I`ve checked out some download pages to see what they have.
If you`re not looking for the Top10 , there is always stuff missing.
They got to have a COMPLETE catalog.
Just look up a group that is a little lesser known , and you might be lucky to find their latest album.
That doesn`t work , the catalog has to be complete.
All the music from an artist , all the recordings , remixes , you name it…

Just giving away music doesn`t work , cause then nobody values it anymore.

And then , whats with music overall anyway.
Where are the real stars and the real talents.
The music of the last few years just sucked it up.
If i have to listen to another 20 year old with an acoustic guitar , wanting to tell me about life…..screw those dooshbags.

I wouldn`t want to own a record label.
Yeah , they tried to screw over people. Artists and customers.
They flooded the market with boy groups and other windbags.
Thats another reason why todays music sucks and nobody wants to pay for it.
The labels didn`t serve one of their most important purposes. Selection.
Finding and selecting real talents. Talents with a lasting substance. Not just trendy windbags who are good for a fast buck.

That selection is important. And it`s tedious work.
Just go to MySpace Music and listen at random to 10 musicians that nobody knows.
If you make it to 10 , you probably don`t want to listen to music for a while.
Cause what you`ve heard was so terrible that you almost lost faith in music.
There are people who should have never picked up a musical instrument , and the public needs to be protected from them.
The music business is supposed to be brutal , so we wont be bothered with crap.
Thats the way it should work.
But the record labels have turned it around to where they just cater to 12 year olds to make easy money.
The result is what we have today.
Has anyone seen the last MTV Music Video Awards ?
It was like Nickelodeon on acid.

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basicly that says to me ,,, there giving us a app to browse and d/l from the Gnutella network that will be plastered with adds and pop ups and that there be monitering us to hopefully catch someone downloading something they shouldnt so they can claim $5 a go, no doubt when dumb people fisrt sign up and share there folder full of pirated tunes there gonna get stung

yet you make it sound like a good thing martin