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		<title>By: johnp</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont look the tree but the forest, better days are coming from amd again, intel again will be hunting amds innovations once more, ok amd didnt meet the expectations witn phenom chips, but its a big step to better thing, remember when intel rlsed their supposed dual core chipset, three years ago , this chips were the biggest joke as far technology innovation and perfomance/price etch, and then thei rlsd c3d  chips and they made the difference now amd will do the same, and in fact amd is leading at the servers performance amd chips are far better the intels xeons and dont forget that in the servers market is the big cash not in desktops.
the following is an article from www.anandtech.com
Introduction

&quot;AMD has no answer to the armada of new Intel&#039;s CPUs.&quot;

&quot;Penryn will be the final blow.&quot;

These two sentences have been showing up on a lot of hardware forums around the Internet. The situation in the desktop is close to desperate for AMD as it can hardly keep pace with the third highest clocked Core 2 Duo CPU, and there are several quad core chips - either high clocked expensive ones or cheaper midrange models - that AMD simply has no answer for at present. As AMD gets closer to the launch of their own quad core, even at a humble 2GHz, Intel let the world know it will deliver a 3GHz quad core Xeon with 12 MB L2 that only needs 80W, and Intel showed that 3.33GHz is just around the corner too. However, there is a reason why Intel is more paranoid than the many hardware enthusiasts.

While most people focus on the fact that Intel&#039;s Core CPUs win almost every benchmark in the desktop space, the battle in the server space is far from over. Look at the four socket market for example, also called the 4S space. As we showed in our previous article, the fastest Xeon MP at 3.4GHz is about as fast as the Opteron at 2.6GHz. Not bad at all, but today AMD introduces a 3.2GHz Opteron 8224, which extends AMD&#039;s lead in the 4S space. This lead probably won&#039;t last for long, as Intel is very close to introducing its newest quad core Xeon MP Tigerton line, but it shows that AMD is not throwing in the towel. Along with the top-end 3.2GHz 8224 (120W), a 3GHz 8222 at 95W, 3.2GHz Opteron 2224 (120W) and 3GHz 2222 (95W) are also being introduced.

The 3.2GHz Opteron 2224 is quite interesting, as it is priced at $873. This is the same price point as the dual core Intel Xeon 5160 at 3GHz and the quad core Intel Xeon 5355. The contrast with the desktop market is sharp: not one AMD desktop CPU can be found in the higher price ranges. So how does AMD&#039;s newest offering compare to the two Intel CPUs? Is it just an attempt at deceiving IT departments into thinking the parts are comparable, or does AMD have an attractive alternative to the Intel CPUs?
from:
www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3057

and about the one who said about the jews and israel being the better human minds, from were that comes from? in the fact that intel is making the chips there? thas is the most stupid asamption a have ever heard if that was true then the malaisians ant taiwan are the smartes off all becouse all the electronics are made there. hahahah.
what islrael has offered to the world and civilization nothing,and dont forget the first computer was constructed and worked in greece 2.500 years ago so go read some history 
before saying that jews are smartest than anyone else in the world what about the greeks the egyptians the chinese with so many years of history and innovations that the modrn world is now enjoying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont look the tree but the forest, better days are coming from amd again, intel again will be hunting amds innovations once more, ok amd didnt meet the expectations witn phenom chips, but its a big step to better thing, remember when intel rlsed their supposed dual core chipset, three years ago , this chips were the biggest joke as far technology innovation and perfomance/price etch, and then thei rlsd c3d  chips and they made the difference now amd will do the same, and in fact amd is leading at the servers performance amd chips are far better the intels xeons and dont forget that in the servers market is the big cash not in desktops.<br />
the following is an article from <a href="http://www.anandtech.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.anandtech.com</a><br />
Introduction</p>
<p>&#8220;AMD has no answer to the armada of new Intel&#8217;s CPUs.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Penryn will be the final blow.&#8221;</p>
<p>These two sentences have been showing up on a lot of hardware forums around the Internet. The situation in the desktop is close to desperate for AMD as it can hardly keep pace with the third highest clocked Core 2 Duo CPU, and there are several quad core chips &#8211; either high clocked expensive ones or cheaper midrange models &#8211; that AMD simply has no answer for at present. As AMD gets closer to the launch of their own quad core, even at a humble 2GHz, Intel let the world know it will deliver a 3GHz quad core Xeon with 12 MB L2 that only needs 80W, and Intel showed that 3.33GHz is just around the corner too. However, there is a reason why Intel is more paranoid than the many hardware enthusiasts.</p>
<p>While most people focus on the fact that Intel&#8217;s Core CPUs win almost every benchmark in the desktop space, the battle in the server space is far from over. Look at the four socket market for example, also called the 4S space. As we showed in our previous article, the fastest Xeon MP at 3.4GHz is about as fast as the Opteron at 2.6GHz. Not bad at all, but today AMD introduces a 3.2GHz Opteron 8224, which extends AMD&#8217;s lead in the 4S space. This lead probably won&#8217;t last for long, as Intel is very close to introducing its newest quad core Xeon MP Tigerton line, but it shows that AMD is not throwing in the towel. Along with the top-end 3.2GHz 8224 (120W), a 3GHz 8222 at 95W, 3.2GHz Opteron 2224 (120W) and 3GHz 2222 (95W) are also being introduced.</p>
<p>The 3.2GHz Opteron 2224 is quite interesting, as it is priced at $873. This is the same price point as the dual core Intel Xeon 5160 at 3GHz and the quad core Intel Xeon 5355. The contrast with the desktop market is sharp: not one AMD desktop CPU can be found in the higher price ranges. So how does AMD&#8217;s newest offering compare to the two Intel CPUs? Is it just an attempt at deceiving IT departments into thinking the parts are comparable, or does AMD have an attractive alternative to the Intel CPUs?<br />
from:<br />
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3057" rel="nofollow">http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3057</a></p>
<p>and about the one who said about the jews and israel being the better human minds, from were that comes from? in the fact that intel is making the chips there? thas is the most stupid asamption a have ever heard if that was true then the malaisians ant taiwan are the smartes off all becouse all the electronics are made there. hahahah.<br />
what islrael has offered to the world and civilization nothing,and dont forget the first computer was constructed and worked in greece 2.500 years ago so go read some history<br />
before saying that jews are smartest than anyone else in the world what about the greeks the egyptians the chinese with so many years of history and innovations that the modrn world is now enjoying?</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/price-of-amd-lower-than-what-they-paid-for-ati/comment-page-1/#comment-175011</link>
		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;intel fanboys that say this is good news for them, have no braincells left, this is bad news for everyone except for intel people.
Now that intel has a good lead, they can easily price their products the way they want, see the new quadcore cpus, their price is a joke, so blah hope amd get its act together.&quot;

Very true - if AMD go under, Intel have no competition - thus they can hike up the prices, delay release of products and generally hold all us Intel users to ransom knowing full well we have no alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;intel fanboys that say this is good news for them, have no braincells left, this is bad news for everyone except for intel people.<br />
Now that intel has a good lead, they can easily price their products the way they want, see the new quadcore cpus, their price is a joke, so blah hope amd get its act together.&#8221;</p>
<p>Very true &#8211; if AMD go under, Intel have no competition &#8211; thus they can hike up the prices, delay release of products and generally hold all us Intel users to ransom knowing full well we have no alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This stock still has room to fall, watch the price from day to day, when you see the support point buy in, but I&#039;m still recommending everyone to buy Take Two, I bought it at $14 and change, then more at $16, it went up to 18, today came back to $17 and change, but it was a terrible day overall, now is the time to buy this, before GTA comes out, you&#039;ll will be glad you did, I sure am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This stock still has room to fall, watch the price from day to day, when you see the support point buy in, but I&#8217;m still recommending everyone to buy Take Two, I bought it at $14 and change, then more at $16, it went up to 18, today came back to $17 and change, but it was a terrible day overall, now is the time to buy this, before GTA comes out, you&#8217;ll will be glad you did, I sure am.</p>
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		<title>By: eitanois</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/price-of-amd-lower-than-what-they-paid-for-ati/comment-page-1/#comment-174754</link>
		<dc:creator>eitanois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world run in circles...

we can only hope for a even worst tomorrow....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world run in circles&#8230;</p>
<p>we can only hope for a even worst tomorrow&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: babba loo</title>
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		<dc:creator>babba loo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been an Intel user all my life, this news is not surprising. It just proves what a miracle the Core2Duo has been for computer users everywhere.

Maybe AMD should sell off their CPU making division and go back to being just ATI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been an Intel user all my life, this news is not surprising. It just proves what a miracle the Core2Duo has been for computer users everywhere.</p>
<p>Maybe AMD should sell off their CPU making division and go back to being just ATI.</p>
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		<title>By: reallysad</title>
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		<dc:creator>reallysad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sad but true - i was used to build on AMD systems since the K6-2 but since the C2D i also changed to intel.
hope they´ll get their things straight soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sad but true &#8211; i was used to build on AMD systems since the K6-2 but since the C2D i also changed to intel.<br />
hope they´ll get their things straight soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Sad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sad but true - i was used to build on AMD systems since the K6-2 but since the C2D i also changed to intel.
hope they´ll get their things straight soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sad but true &#8211; i was used to build on AMD systems since the K6-2 but since the C2D i also changed to intel.<br />
hope they´ll get their things straight soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Aero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lo0l my grammer is terrible sorry for hurting ur eyes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lo0l my grammer is terrible sorry for hurting ur eyes</p>
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		<title>By: amd fanboi</title>
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		<dc:creator>amd fanboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where are the rapidshare links, i want to try them both out before buying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where are the rapidshare links, i want to try them both out before buying.</p>
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		<title>By: Razer-Moses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razer-Moses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If god forbid AMD goes bankriupt Intel and Nvidia will become new Microsofts. NOOOOooo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If god forbid AMD goes bankriupt Intel and Nvidia will become new Microsofts. NOOOOooo!</p>
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		<title>By: GARs</title>
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		<dc:creator>GARs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My amd runs fine and Ill get a mac anyway ^^

Curse you spam filter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My amd runs fine and Ill get a mac anyway ^^</p>
<p>Curse you spam filter!</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
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		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@42: AMD has a never been a part of Intel, but if you are interested, founders from both companies come from Fairchild Semiconductor.

Also, it was a completely painful experience to read your post, I think reading encrypted codes is easier than reading that.

But remember what happened when Intel put out the Pentium CPUs, forcing AMD to develop their own processors, putting out the K5, K6 and finally the Athlon processors.

Everything will fall into place eventually.

.-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@42: AMD has a never been a part of Intel, but if you are interested, founders from both companies come from Fairchild Semiconductor.</p>
<p>Also, it was a completely painful experience to read your post, I think reading encrypted codes is easier than reading that.</p>
<p>But remember what happened when Intel put out the Pentium CPUs, forcing AMD to develop their own processors, putting out the K5, K6 and finally the Athlon processors.</p>
<p>Everything will fall into place eventually.</p>
<p>.-</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
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		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@42: , AMD has   a part of Intel, bur if you are interested, founders from both companies come from Fairchild Semiconductor.

Also, it was a completely painful experience to read your post, I think reading encrypted codes is easier than reading that.

But remember what happened when Intel put out the Pentium CPUs, forcing AMD to develop their own processors, putting out the K5, K6 and finally the Athlon processors.

Everything will fall into place eventually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@42: , AMD has   a part of Intel, bur if you are interested, founders from both companies come from Fairchild Semiconductor.</p>
<p>Also, it was a completely painful experience to read your post, I think reading encrypted codes is easier than reading that.</p>
<p>But remember what happened when Intel put out the Pentium CPUs, forcing AMD to develop their own processors, putting out the K5, K6 and finally the Athlon processors.</p>
<p>Everything will fall into place eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: xx</title>
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		<dc:creator>xx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ill still pick an amd system over an intel system. amd has never let me down. i got a amd64 3200+ cpu in my desktop and a turion x2 1.8ghz notebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ill still pick an amd system over an intel system. amd has never let me down. i got a amd64 3200+ cpu in my desktop and a turion x2 1.8ghz notebook.</p>
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		<title>By: alex179</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex179</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GO CELERON!!! WOOT WOOT!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GO CELERON!!! WOOT WOOT!!!</p>
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