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Piracy isn’t THAT bad and they know it


I received a very pleasant mail today. My inbox is usually full of stupid cease & desist messages from various antipiracy organizations, but it’s mails like this one which make you happy. It’s good to see that some people realize that internet piracy isn’t just evil…

To Whom It May Concern:

My name is Eric D. Wilkinson and I am the producer of a small independent film called “Jerome Bixby’s The Man From Earth” (our review).

I am sending you this email after realizing that our website has had nearly 23,000 hits in the last 12 days, much of it coming from your website. In addition, our trailer, both on the www.manfromearth.com site and other sites like YouTube, MySpace and AOL has been watched nearly 20,000 times AND what’s most impressive is our ranking on IMDb went from being the 11,235th most popular movie, to the 5th most popular movie in 2 weeks (we are also the #1 independent film on IMDb & the #1 science fiction film on IMDb). How did this all happen? Two words: Torrent / File Sharing sites (well, four words and a slash).

More specifically, RLSLOG.net. Our independent movie had next to no advertising budget and very little going for it until somebody ripped one of the DVD screeners and put the movie online for all to download. After that happened, people were watching it and started posting mostly all positive reviews on IMDb, Amazon and other places. Most of the feedback from everyone who has downloaded “The Man From Earth” has been overwhelmingly positive. People like our movie and are talking about it, all thanks to piracy on the net!

Am I upset… surprisingly no. Thanks to everyone who has downloaded this torrrent and watched the film, our awareness level is through the roof. For that I say, “THANK YOU”!

What you guys have done here is nothing short of amazing. In the future, I will not complain about file sharing. YOU HAVE HELPED PUT THIS LITTLE MOVIE ON THE MAP!!!! When I make my next picture, I just may upload the movie on the net myself!

This guy really deserves support from the file shareing community! You can support producers of The Man From Earth by buying the retail DVD, which should be available in the US stores from tomorrow.

Update: Proof for the non believers:

With so many scams on the internet these days it is not entirely surprising that some may jump to conclusions about the legitimacy of this whole ordeal. Well for one I can tell you he does indeed check out as legitimate. Here are some reasons:

  1. his comment IP matches his comcast ISP when a whois query is initiated
  2. his email is the same on his myspace page and he references in his rlslog comments
  3. he recently added more proof with an image of himself with the rlslog.net website

Recently his new myspace message confirms. Also the Director, Richard Schenkman gives his backup that both of the men have “discussed the matter quite extensively before reaching out to the download community.” But their whole idea behind ‘going public’ was to “pull a Radiohead… to reach out to the online community and say, “If you downloaded this movie and liked it, please buy the DVD; and if you can’t buy the DVD where you live, please send us some money.”

Eric: Here’s is a picture I took of myself five minutes ago in front of my computer screen while logged into rlslog.net.

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  1. Sondre
    November 22nd, 2007 | 12:03

    Because of one mans happiness cause of his new popularity, isn’t helping me to conclude that piracy should be legal.

    Software should be bought just like hardware. It’s work behind both.

  2. shockyxl5
    November 22nd, 2007 | 20:20

    Be careful i’ve just received a law suit for downloading a game via new torrents that i found on releaselog for £500 so someone is watching us

  3. The Dude
    November 23rd, 2007 | 18:38

    Great for the dude. He made fame but not money. Hard to make both from an independent film.

    As for piracy vs commercial? It’s the same argument as this: Gift Economy vs. Barter Economy. Neither bad and both are necessities.

    ~The Dude

  4. corroded
    November 24th, 2007 | 01:17

    Quality.

    Please release this as a Region 2 DVD!

  5. Rich
    November 24th, 2007 | 01:26

    great movie, worth watching, crap quality cam though!!!!

  6. Tom
    November 24th, 2007 | 06:01

    My copy of the “The Man From Earth” DVD should ship from Amazon in a couple of days, the order is just waiting on Paprika.

    Much better SF movie then the usual Hollywood crap.

  7. blank kid
    November 24th, 2007 | 11:41

    Well, as a artist, I will mention that if I send ANYTHING
    which I have createde, my PRIMARY goal is for people to
    see what I have created, and share it, since the more people that see
    my art I produce, the happier I will be. True there is a
    financial downfall, but maybe this is the “electronic great depression”
    where everyone on Earth is in a depression of some form.

    Maybe artists will end up agreeing that they can have someone else
    distribute their work. The major question is: (I am NOT a lawyer)
    How about adding a extra fee (it can be small but pennies can make ppl wealthy)
    to for users of ISP’s who mostly share with each other.
    Something that the EFF proposed. (I trust the EFF more than the ACLU when it comes to technology
    and “law” whatever this whole legal mess is.
    Then again, as a artist I know if I go into a business where
    I “sell” what I create i know beforehand that it’s not a good
    business model to force something down people’s throats.
    I say..Why has it become so difficult for ALL of us on Earth
    to simply work TOGETHER, since we’re all on this planet together.
    Maybe we could come up with solutions that are better than solutions that may be
    invasive.

  8. redalert
    November 24th, 2007 | 22:31

    Well, my humble opinon is that the ’scene’ is of benefit to those who use it, and those that produce it, although ‘The Man’ would never admit this as he feels he is entitled to earn every last penny from other peoples creativity.
    My view is that those that partake in the scene (Releasing, or Downloading) make a contribution to the art of others, my issue is when others sell it on, they are just as bad as ‘The Man’,

    HU!!
    RA

  9. metafilter
    November 25th, 2007 | 05:21

    Dear RLSLOG.net editors,

    This page is featured on the front page of Metafilter. Here is the link.

    Get ready for thousands of visitors!

  10. Markstar
    November 25th, 2007 | 16:27

    > This page is featured on the front page of Metafilter.

    [URL=http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/23/piracy-helps-artists]TheInquirer[/url] had a little article as well.

  11. mokum von Amsterdam
    November 28th, 2007 | 16:51

    WOW
    Simply amazing that there are movie makers who actually _think_
    For this, the makers of man from earth got a good link from my site too. Keep it up guys!

  12. mokum von Amsterdam
    November 28th, 2007 | 16:52

    BTW
    In Holland this article and the happy news was posted too. Right here: http://retecool.com/post/de-filmmaker-die-ons-bedankte

  13. LMFAO
    November 28th, 2007 | 20:18

    Ignore Nr [B]312[/B]:
    Thats not the original Firefox site

  14. Kush
    November 30th, 2007 | 04:32

    the movie was great. i have nothing but positive feedback for this movie. i recommend this movie to all my friends. i’m glad to see a director thanking the whole file sharing community.

  15. Eric D. Wilkinson
    November 30th, 2007 | 05:06

    Greetings and Salutations…

    I know many of you who have seen “Man From Earth” are from some far away places. If you have a sec, head over to this IMDb thread:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/board/thread/91063204

    And just tell us what country you are from and that you would support a DVD release in your country. That would really help.

    We had a decent 1st 2 weeks of sales, not “Transformers” numbers, but pretty good for an indie release. The nice thing was that the numbers held up pretty well for week 2, which usually doesn’t happen.

    Also, if you are in the US, J & R Music World (www.jr.com) has put “The Man From Earth” on sale for only $9.99! That’s the cheapest price yet. If you haven’t picked it up, that’s the place to go.

    Thanks again.

    Eric D. Wilkinson

  16. RedKing
    November 30th, 2007 | 21:59

    Well I sent a donation but only a small one $5. I wouldn’t give more unless I was getting a DVD Image and going to keep it. I viewed it more like me paying for a rental viewing. I’d certainly do they same for others like brick, if I could.

    Form some of Eric D. Wilkinsons other comments I wonder if he realises that people who didn’t like the movie aren’t going to buy or donate, should they?.

    A lot of people who downloaded probably ain’t even watched it yet and even more don’t know yet about the donate option.

    I’m actually surprised that from certain Christian groups we haven’t seen more of a backlash, I thought they’d get to a certain point in the film and the placards would come out.

  17. Eric D. Wilkinson
    December 1st, 2007 | 02:41

    Greetings RLSloggers…

    Please check out this article:

    http://www.studiodaily.com/filmandvideo/technique/8809.html

    From mainstream press Film and Video discussing Man From Earth and the influence from P2P.

    Thanks again!

    Eric D. Wilkinson

  18. RedKing
    December 1st, 2007 | 04:51

    Sorry I should have added this in the earlier post. But I also paid for the recent radiohead internet release though I almost didn’t.

    Like I imagine many people who downloaded I’ll also be buying the material off the shelf because of the extra videos and stuff.

    So maybe other people figured they didn’t want to pay twice. I’m just saying I think if the material was only available via the web then I think more people would have contributed. In the end I decided it was important enough for me to show my support for the idea that I was willing to pay twice.

  19. chicosoft
    December 4th, 2007 | 01:01

    Hi, i loved the film.

    Im from Portugal, when it will be for sale in Europe?

    Thanks

  20. Eric D. Wilkinson
    December 4th, 2007 | 05:09

    Chicosoft,

    We are working on it, I promise you. Hang in there, as we hope to have some news soon about this film being available in international territories.

    Thanks.

    Eric

  21. random.user
    December 14th, 2007 | 06:41

    Thanks should be to the producers for such an open mind. There is no way I can order the DVD since it is in a different region code than the players over here play, but I saw the movie, and I sent them money on their website, an amount I thought was valid for the amount of interest I had in the movie. thats how it should be. welcome to the future!

  22. LMFAO
    December 15th, 2007 | 00:31

    over 10 days no sign…is he dead?

  23. Stomper709
    December 25th, 2007 | 07:07

    Thank you. Eric D. Wilkinson producer of a small independent film called “Jerome Bixby’s The Man From Earth”.
    I will buy your films, I thought it was “fantastic”. I have already told all my friends about it and even had them looking for it before it was released at the movie stores. Kinda funny tryin to explain to one of my friends why he couldnt buy the movie just yet. When he finally saw it he loved it. Briliant work Sir, I for one will be happy to help keep the buzZ alive.
    THX

  24. Eric D. Wilkinson
    December 25th, 2007 | 15:59

    No, not dead… just busy trying to get the foreign rights sold!

    Just dropping by to say Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah or Happy EVERYTHING (depending on what you celebrate.

    Will update here again soon.

    Cheers!

    Eric

  25. EGM
    January 2nd, 2008 | 00:35

    Great Movie!! the best than i’ve seem in last years
    Gran pelicula… de lo mejor q he visto en los ultimos años

  26. Mystical
    January 2nd, 2008 | 03:36

    Wow the movie was awesome. The work is great. I’ll be telling everyone about it. I don’t brag about movies mostly because they don’t make me want more, but this movie did it. Without special effects, without violent actions, just a simple story. I will try to donate soon, and I will try to keep donating that is how awesome the film was. Definitely buying the DVD.

  27. Eric D. Wilkinson
    January 5th, 2008 | 17:53

    Just checking in…

    I know this message board has calmed down a bit, however, If you are reading this, I wanted to ask you to go to:

    http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2007/12/30/slice-of-scifi-poll-for-week-beginning-december-30-2007

    and VOTE FOR “JEROME BIXBY’S THE MAN FROM EARTH”

    Thanks so much and continued thanks for your support.

    Eric D. Wilkinson
    Producer
    Jerome Bixby’s The Man From Earth

  28. kakys
    January 16th, 2008 | 02:16

    I just LOVED the MAN FROM THE EARTH. The movie was amazing, awesome and so on. No visual effects, but ONLY BRILIANT IDEA and story line.

  29. japanese little d..k
    February 1st, 2008 | 16:35

    whoa that guy looks like one major pillowbita

  30. Eric D. Wilkinson
    February 2nd, 2008 | 07:26

    Dude, not cool.

  31. Eric D. Pillowbiter
    February 2nd, 2008 | 15:37

    dude, homo.

  32. rtm
    February 5th, 2008 | 20:03

    I really hope you go on to create/be a big part of many movies just as wonderful as this one Mr. Wilkinson. I hope the buss created by all this makes it possible to do all that you’ve envisioned… Good Luck. And thanks for the great post Rlslog.net :)

  33. Eric D. Wilkinson
    February 6th, 2008 | 21:44

    japanese little d..k,

    Oh, I’m sorry. I get it now… “dude, homo” is you telling the world that you practice an “alternative lifestyle” and your “pillowbita” comment to me was said clearly out of personal experience. Good luck on your search for a boyfirend, but I don’t recommend hitting on people on the internet like this. Buy hey, best of luck to you on your search.

    rtm,

    Thanks for the kind words. Working on a new movie now and will be happy to send an update on the progress when we get out of the development stage.

    E

  34. Eric D. Wilkinson
    February 21st, 2008 | 06:16

    2008 SATURN AWARD NOMINEE!!!

    This morning we received the wonderful news that “Jerome Bixby’s The Man From Earth” was nominated for “Best DVD Release” in the 34th Annual Saturn Awards (http://www.saturnawards.org/nominations.html).

    We couldn’t be more pleased, nor feel more honored. One of our primary goals from the start of this project was to do right by Jerome Bixby’s legacy within the science fiction community, and this nomination, we feel, recognizes that effort.

    Our thanks go to all the members of The Academy of Science Fiction Fantasy & Horror Films, especially the members of the DVD committee.

    And to fans of the film… if you happen to KNOW anybody on the DVD committee, please let them know how much you like it!

    warmest greetings–
    Richard Schenkman
    & Eric D. Wilkinson

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