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Pakistan banned YouTube, 2h global outage

Pakistan’s government has banned access to the video-clip website YouTube because of anti-Islamic movies posted on the site, an official said yesterday. The Pakistan Telecommunication Authority told the country’s 70 internet service providers that the popular website would be blocked until further notice. The authority did not specify what the offensive material was, but a PTA official said the ban concerned a trailer for an forthcoming film by Dutch politician Geert Wilders. The film portrays Islam as a fascist religion prone to inciting violence against women and homosexuals. The unnamed official said the PTA had also blocked websites showing the controversial Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad. The drawings were originally printed in European newspapers in 2006, but were reprinted by some papers last week. The PTA urged internet users to write to YouTube and request the removal of the films, saying that the authorities would stop blocking the video-sharing site once that had happened.

What’s more, Pakistan’s attempts to block access to YouTube have been blamed for a near global blackout of the site on Sunday. The nearly two-hour long blackout was almost certainly connected to Pakistan Telecom and internet service provider PCCW. A leading net professional told BBC News: “This was probably a simple mistake by an engineer at Pakistan Telecom. There’s nothing to suggest this was malicious.” It is believed Pakistan Telecom “hijacked” the web server address of the popular video site. IP hijacking involves taking over a web site’s unique address by corrupting the internet’s routing tables, which direct the flow of data around the world.

Source: CNN, BBC 

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  1. BooYeah!!!!
    February 25th, 2008 | 16:19

    Why am I not surprised. Pakistan is heading down a dark road. So Sad.

  2. MM
    February 25th, 2008 | 16:20

    usa, uk and australia are blocking many stuff on the internet too but then its called protecting your kids blahblablah .. but when other countries do it, its called censorship and dictatorship.

    hypocrisy at work.

  3. someone13
    February 25th, 2008 | 16:21

    I think this is old news

    http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14609368 (dated 23rd Feb 08)

    @offtopic I have started getting these 503 service unavailable errors

  4. MM
    February 25th, 2008 | 16:21

    you mean these error messages at this site?:

    Error 503 Service Unavailable

    Service Unavailable
    Guru Meditation:

    XID: 944147925
    Varnish

  5. Pakistani Power
    February 25th, 2008 | 16:21

    O wonder they forbid. Pakistan ranks short behind the US when it comes to freedom of press. What do you expect?

  6. Marduk
    February 25th, 2008 | 16:23

    Error 503 Service Unavailable

    Service Unavailable
    Guru Meditation:

    XID: 944147925
    Varnish

  7. Barack Obama
    February 25th, 2008 | 16:33

    This is the straw that broke the camel’s back. I think now is the perfect time to attack Pakistan.

    Vote for me and i will make sure of it.

    For YouTube !!!!!!!!

  8. Kane
    February 25th, 2008 | 16:36

    I knew it was somethin goin on on youtube I couldn’t get on youtube forl ike 2 darn hours.

  9. Faiz
    February 25th, 2008 | 16:47

    I agree with MM (#2)
    When an Isalmic Country do something then it would be news allover the world & will blame on Muslims & Islam Religion.
    Western countries could do anything means anything .

    It is so sad .

    “Difference Between Cultures “.

    We should all live in harmony & peace.

  10. apakistani
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:01

    The main reason according to some people are MQM (Musharraf’s govenament supportive political party)rigging video’s in the current 2008 election.

    short one 7.5mb, 2 minutes: http://rapidshare.com/files/94687915…50_karachi.zip

    long one 6 minutes ( actual footage 4 minutes 30 seconds rest is blank part ) , 23.5mb : http://rapidshare.com/files/94690169…50_karachi.zip

    short one in flv format 4.3mb ( in order to view this u would need flv player ) : http://rapidshare.com/files/94690743…50_karachi.zip

  11. gerardnll
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:01

    Ohh come on! if this had happened here a lot of people now would be in the street. And i think that religion is the worst thing in this life and it’s sad that a government bans things like youtube.

    Bye

  12. tom
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:04

    good more bandwidth for us

  13. Cannonballkid
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:08

    ahh America- i’m going on youtube right now- anyone know if the ban on Turkey was lifted yet?

  14. Shaun
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:17

    I am so blocking pakistan.com in protest.

  15. n
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:19

    @11: So Gerardnll when can we expect your protest over Wikileak’s censorship in the US?

    http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_8322372?nclick_check=1

  16. morfeus02
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:21

    pathetic

    they ban a whole site for an “islam insulting video”

    just like kids would do

    lol

  17. dog oOOo
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:23

    Is this part of the ‘bombed to stone age’ plan of America?
    There’s no doubt that after Afghanistan and Iraq,Pakistan is next.
    Serves them right for supporting terrorism.
    @ 7 Hell yeah,I’ll vote for you.
    By the way,Osama is in Pakistan.

  18. HollyWood
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:25

    i’m not eve starting to comment on this topic…
    you know what i’m talking about…hh

  19. Religion of Peace
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:28

    Islam is by definition perfect, and beyond criticism, punishable by death.

  20. hipple
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:37

    When an Isalmic Country do something then it would be news allover the world & will blame on Muslims & Islam Religion.
    Western countries could do anything means anything .

    ^ EXACTLY!

    When Israel shoot missiles and warfighter planes bomb down innocent Palestinians, it’s all in the name of ‘fighting terrorism’… And NO ONE in the west talk about it…

    When Palestinians try to defend their homeland by blowing themselves up because they dont have weapons, it’s called terrorism and all over the news everywhere on how bad they are.

    It’s pathetic.. It’s caused the growth of naive teenagers who know nothing except generalisations like Muslims and Arabs are terrorists and horrible etc etc but if you actually go visit there, you’ll find the complete opposite.

  21. voldemort
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:47

    @21 blow themselves up because they have no weapons freakin’ cool dude he he, can’t help feeling you are stupid and i don’t think it’s only me

  22. sigh
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:49

    First off, I agree with the people that said that people in western countries would be able to do this and get away with it without people thinking about it twice…
    Second, I do like to point out that people in the western countries like to treat everything that has to do with islam or anything even remotely connected to it with a condascendent look. Imagine a movie showing the jewish culture in a “bad light” or talking badly anything remotely connected to the jewish religion. You will see people judging those and pointing them out as antisemitists. They would say that its an outrage and probably even sue them. Say something about the holocost… lol I dare you! You will immediately get banned or whatever.. whilst 500000 muslims die in the White Russia during the ethnic cleansing and probably not even 10% of the people judging Pakistan and the islam know it

  23. laME
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:49

    Western hypocrisy man, i mean on internet many sites are being censored by Western countries too, sites insulting jews or homos for instance, those sites even get closed … why?

    and then wehn moslem countries ban sites thats insult them, then they are dictators? for doing the exact same thing we do? but when we censor and ban, its for freedom of speech and democracy? lol!

    freedom of speech sure.. but only if it serves our interest, lol.

  24. dunderjit
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:52

    Hypocrisy, in North America, news reports are censored, print media is censored, radio is censored, TV is censored and anythign deemed undesireable by teh powers that be is also blocked, removed or censored, including the public documents found on the White House website, which are heavily edited sometimes, often after an embarassing comment is aired publicly.

    In Pakistan, they block access to a website and some gun totin’ cowboy is offering to attack them if he is voted for. In most cases that would seem foolish and impossible, but hey, they voted for Bush…..twice, why not some radical cowboy with an unqualified grudge to settle?!

    Pakistam is not a bad place at all, it just has SOME bad people that garner the most attention, just like any other country in the world.

    If they are blocking what is deemed unfair propaganda, it is no different than what the US, Canada, Germany, Australia or any other country would rightly do.

    Do you really think that, just because you are in America or some other free country, that your entire world around you is not censored and controlled to give of the preferred ‘AIR’ that is required to keep citizens thinking patriotic thoughts?

  25. Assassin
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:52

    @21
    I totally agree with you ..
    I am arabic and I am proud of that ..
    And what pakistan did by blocking youtube was the right thing to do ..
    When you insult a prophet like ‘ Muhammed ” – Peace be upon him – you insult a whole nation of nearly 1 billion muslims ..
    It is not freedom when you talk about things that have nothing to do with ..
    The freedom is to do what ever you want which will benefit you and will not affect others ..
    We as muslims yes we are not happy with youtube policy .. No matter what we send to block videos that shoot in islamic religion they just don’t listen ..
    And come to look at it from other vision ..
    It is freedom for you to talk against arabs and islam and other prophets and we don’t have the rights to defend our rights ???????

    I just wanna say we are not what you think we are ..
    We are not countries from the old times ..
    We are people just like we live in houses and we respect the freedom of others and we are not TERRORIST ..
    Don’t beleive what ever you see in TVs ..
    Most of it is a big lie ..
    We respect other religions , we respect other prophets ..
    We beleive in one god ..
    And this is our freedom .. we did not cross the line ..
    so please do the same ..

    Anyway my English might not be so good so forgive for any mistakes ^^

  26. IC
    February 25th, 2008 | 17:59

    Islam shizlam..

    Who cares.. So your going to block a whole plethora of information and entertainment just because infidels talk bad about Islam and your religion?

    So in essence you do indeed support tyranny, censorship, facism and government control.. Are you to tell me that the nation of islam is not reponsible enough to block their own content at home?

    It’s more than your english thats not good…

  27. pop
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:06

    Has anybody seen the news? The Pakistani people have just embraced secular democracy as opposed to military/islamic dictatorships in the face of extreme violence, isn’t this what the US wanted? give the guys a break for gods sake

  28. boo
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:09

    @26

    So you ban a website because it contains material offensive to your religion. Seems you wouldn’t bother to kill a person either because he dosn’t have the same religion as you. Exactly like 27 said, “It’s more than your english thats not good…”

  29. Rap
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:12

    good for YOUTUBE…they are gonna save loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooots of VIOLENT bandwidth….Now its turn for Saudi Arab, Palestine, Iran, Iraq…oh hell youtube will be loading in sec not min…

  30. ROBERT
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:14

    LOL

    YOU insult your mother, sisters, brothers, neighbors, friends… everybody you live with … but in case of someone or something you never actually, talk to, see, embrace, make love to, play with, … it become a problem… you believers are so lol… be happy people complaining or criticizing god give you a reason to think that you are a whole nation, united and carrying for one an other… like Jesus in the west, Mohamed in the middle east and war in U.S..and money all over the world…. TRY SOMETHING ELSE FOR A CHANGE … perhaps no god but love, respect and peace for your children and relatives, concern and respect for the women of this world… that will be true a reason to feel united… instated off covering off the way everyones leaves so pithily…

  31. leeching_slags
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:14

    @27 you are talking utter crap I’m guessing your probably from the US by the fact that you associate nation of Islam with Paksitan and other muslim countries. Nation of Islam is a black power group in the US which no self respecting or even practicing muslim would identify let alone agree with. Democracy itself is an illusion and from what I have seen the US are one of the very worst in terms of censorship, government control. In Pakistan if the government want to censor something they will come out and do it and not try to hide behind something or give stupid justifications for their actions such as everyone is gonna die in a terroist attack as soon as they step out of their door so lets take control of everything i.e. PATRIOT ACT.

  32. Reality
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:16

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L8_E93UREU

    Watch this video everyone who thinks Islam is anything good! Read koran ffs, it clearly states to kill everyone who is not muslim. How can you not understand these phrases:

    The Holy Qur’an: Text,
    Translation & Commentary

    Abdullah Yusuf Ali (Editor)

    Torment to Non-believers:
    SURA 4.56: (As for) those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them enter fire; so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins, that they may taste the chastisement; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.

    Friends with Jews, Christians…
    5.51: O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

    Fight non-believers
    9.123: O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

    Kill non-believers
    4.89 : They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

    Killing Idolaters
    9.5: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND????? The terrorist muslims are following Koran by every word.

    It is not religion of peace.

  33. Curious
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:23

    @25

    I’m curious .. where exactly are all these instances of censorship by the American government? Is there a bias in the media? Absolutely .. but I’m aware of no governmental censorship of the media .. just self-imposed censorship by the owners/editors/general managers of the voice/print/tv media.

    BTW, Reporters without borders recently ranked the United States 48th out of 169 countryies evaluated on freedom of the press ( .. significantly higher than the country of Pakistan (152) and the majority of other Islamic countries.

    “Of the 20 countries at the bottom of the index, seven are Asian (Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Laos, Vietnam, China, Burma, and North Korea), five are African (Ethiopia, Equatorial Guinea, Libya, Somalia and Eritrea), four are in the Middle East (Syria, Iraq, Palestinian Territories and Iran), three are former Soviet republics (Belarus, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan) and one is in the Americas (Cuba).”

  34. leeching_slags
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:24

    @33 another fine example of complete ignorance and selective reading.
    The only time when muslims are permitted to kill anyone is if they are being attacked or at the end of the world when “the war ” occurs as written in the bible.
    If muslims agenda was to kill all non muslims how the hell are there still christians and jews alive in so many arab countries around the world, if we wanted everyone else dead we would have done it over a thousand years ago. Muslims have been taught and it is written in the Koran that they should respect Jews and christians alike as they are closest to us due to the fact that they believe in one God. This is precisely why muslim men are allowed to marry jewish, christian women. Anyway I dont wanna get into a debate that has nothing to do with the post. All I can say is that I suggest people do their own research and find out the truth for themselves and not just read what people feed them in paragraphs as I could also pull out a whole bunch of “unfavourable” comments from the Bible

  35. kirill
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:25
  36. pop
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:30

    The koran and the old testament are pretty much the same thing, I remember God in the Old Testament being a real hardass, if people followed every word of the Old Testament they would be just like the Muslims lol, get over it. Secular democracy is the only way forward, I’m with the Europeans on this one.

  37. laME
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:32

    @33, the jewish and christian books are filled with murder rape, pedophilism, incest etc too. why not quote them too?

    according to jewish talmud you are allowed to kill all non jews becase all non jews are less than cattle it states. then can also rape all non-jewish girls up to 11 years old without breakig any laws it states.

    in the christian teachings like the old testament it states to stone all homosexuals and women who dont cover their heads… all black in white there.

    yet again western hypocrisy like many metioned already.

  38. Reality
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:32

    #35 you clearly are not a true muslim. SInce you dont even know that muslims cannot marry Christians or Jew women. They must convert them, then they can marry. Christian, Jewish males cannot marry muslim female. Another equality :)

    About that Koran quotas, Muslims have been in war with Christians for centuries. Christians had to fight back against muslims invasion during Crussades in order to keep muslims agressors out.

  39. mudsir
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:32

    want to know what Islam says about terrorism
    download these
    http://islamictorrents.net/details.php?id=13980
    http://islamictorrents.net/details.php?id=13947
    http://islamictorrents.net/details.php?id=13922
    http://islamictorrents.net/details.php?id=13894
    http://islamictorrents.net/details.php?id=13892
    http://islamictorrents.net/details.php?id=13876
    http://islamictorrents.net/details.php?id=13866
    these books and lectures are from respected scholars of Islam

    we muslims area against terrorism because Islaam is against terrorism, but that does not mean we can protest peacefully against the discrimination of muslims.

    well if anyone says anything against jewism , his life is made a living hell by the jews and the american media , but if someone says anything against Islam and muslims , his book is a best-seller, his movie is a blockbuster.

    Islam gives the best rights to women , a long time back when women were considered evil by both christians and jews.
    They were treated as animals and Islam gave them all types of rights ,that is the reason that more of women revert back to Islam.
    This is something which the west does not like ,that more women are becoming muslims hence they spread lies about Islam.

    I request all concerned citizens both muslims and non muslims to protest against such stupid movies made solely to incite violence and gain some publicity.

  40. Reality
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:34

    #38, how many Christians have you seen stoning someone in modern times? How many Jews have you seen raping in the name of religion?

    In the same time, stoning in Islam is actual to this very day.

  41. leeching_slags
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:35

    Muslim men do not have to convert the woman it is desirable but the only factor that is required is that the children are brought up as muslim. The reason why muslim women are not allowed to marry non muslim men is that children usually inherit their fathers faith and it is the father who normally makes such decisions in a household. It all makes sense unless your one of these guys who prefers his wife to wear the trousers.

  42. David
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:35

    @26

    How can one believe what you are saying regarding love and peace when you post a comment using a name like “Assassin”. You are a sick Muslim, it is Muslim’s like you who give the rest of your culture a bad name, surely Allah will forgive you! Or maybe he won’t, I know my God will forgive you! All you need to do is confess your sins and ask for forgiveness.

  43. Reality
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:38

    #42, so basically you decide in place of the child? What happens if he dont want to be muslim? Stoning like in Texas, where Egyptian girl decided to go out with other friends and after that her father killed her.

  44. Curious
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:39

    @40

    “when women were considered evil by both christians and jews.” WTF?? In what warped material are you referring to when you say that Christianity and Judaism “considered women evil”. Yes, the GOVERNMENT of many countries had laws that were unfavorable to women, but not the religions of Christianity and Judaism.

  45. leeching_slags
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:40

    @38 lol to the power of infinity.

    No I could quite easily how many deaths are the christians responsible for how about the holocaust which is under the banner of modern times, but even I have the ability to identify that you cannot blame an entire faith for the actions of a few misguided followers.

    Yea in US no one gets stoned to death they just get injected with fluid that paralyzes them to give the illusion that they are dieing peacefully, death is death.

    Go check out how many women are raped in the US every year. Islamic states are the ones that have a death penalty for those who have raped women. You really make me laugh seriously.

  46. leeching_slags
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:46

    Reality, you really need a reality check most of the world and its people inherit their faith also called “blind faith” as they do not even know what their religion is about and what it means. I actually have some respect for atheists as they tend to have made an actual attempt to question why they are here and try to find out what the truth really is. Also if he dont want to be a muslim that is between him and god as far as your concerned you have done your duty in trying to show them the right path. Also the egyptian example you give is just another ludicrous example of a madman. Islam states that people must give dawwa ( spread the word of islam) how the hell can they do it if they do not have friends or socialise with people of different religions and cultures, that is an act of greed as you are not willing to share what you believe is the right path.

  47. Kamo
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:46

    Nuke em all…

  48. Dorje
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:47

    Censorship in a Democracy influenced by a Theocracy??? No way, really? The US and Pakistan actually have a lot in common, like religiots who believe in medieval baloney. On a positive note at least we know where the WMDs are. Hmmmm, is that a positive note? lol

  49. EG
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:50

    Youtube was back up on 24 eve in PK

  50. Reality
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:50

    leeching_slags you are talking about the official rapes in United States, but in the same time in Islamic countries there must be 4 !!MALE!! witnesses to confirm that the rape actually happened. Thats the reason why there are so few information about them. And how can in countries like Saudi Arabia which is the most holly country for muslims a women who gets raped must take responsibility? There was a case, that a girl was stoned to death in public because she was raped. Strange eh?

  51. mudsir
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:51

    yes women are considered evil in christianity and judaism,
    being the cause according to the old testament for making Adam eat the apple.

    http://witcombe.sbc.edu/eve-women/6womenevil.html

    genesis 16 To the woman he said, “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”

  52. kenny
    February 25th, 2008 | 18:58

    I think the number of rapes are the same everywhere in the world, just some countries deal with the problem better than others, Britain has a ridiculously low conviction rate for rape for example when compared to the rest of Europe.

  53. Hypnos
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:00

    Where i live ppl can actually sometimes see naked womans in tv and nobody cares about it.

    But yes…

    USA has no censorship…

  54. to-sir
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:00

    @52 Yeah it’s great that Islam puts the blame on both adam and eve , not just the women like in christianity and judaism.

    Also Islam does not believe in original sin , that is we are not responsible for what Adam or Eve did ,or what anyone else does , but only for our sins and for our disbelief in One God who is without image and without wife ,son or daughter.

    Is not this great news?
    Wow!

  55. IC
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:02

    @32

    I am not from the US, and I do agree with what you said about the US.. In my opinion the US is heading down a very very sad and dangerous path, and the American people are just letting it happen..

  56. Wankstar
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:05

    Im a dane – and think i’ll get the cartoon tatooed to my ass, so i can show it off to some local muslim!
    Freedom of speech – and sharing!

  57. leeching_slags
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:15

    I love the way that you are just pulling cases of injustice and crimes out of they sky without any factual proof. The only instance that I can recall recently was when a male and female where raped by some men and they both had to take responsibility and the reason for this was that the female herself was married and was having an affair with the male and if she had acted properly she would not have been in the situation to begin with. As for your argument that it requires 4 male witnesses is a common myth in the case of rape, circumstantial evidence does suffice as well as the judges own decision ( discretion)to convict.

  58. jak
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:19

    youtube gets blocked for two hours and Islam seems to be taking the blame.

    to reality: let me guess your from texas???

  59. QuadrupelQ
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:19

    @26: You’re “name” says it all methinks…

    Wilders (the Dutch politician who is the main man behind the movie) has every right to vent his opinion about the Islam, or any other topic. However, his movue is already banned from Dutch national television, so his only option is to show it on the ‘free’ internet. And now countries like Pakistan ban that too. That’s freedom of speech for ya!

    Freedom of speech is THE principle we live for in the west. You don’t like that, for any reason you want, go live in countries like Iran. Countries that simply make you vanish if you say the wrong things.

    @47: I was once like you. But now I see that some things and people are just plain evil. You’ll learn…

  60. absinthium
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:25

    @54 dude… its the most naive thing to say that any form of media has no cencorship.
    Somebody witnesses an event and writes/types/tells it in the way he finds best (wich in itself is already subjective to his/her views)
    after this, a whole group of people, company’s and/or producers get to edit this material.
    every single press message u see in the world is censored, it doesnt have to be in the sense that u see a big black block in front of some boobs, but its altered from its original state.
    Especially in the United states the media has such a huge influence that u cant even imagine it when you just posted that but anyway. The TV over there shows you what the media ( possibly controlled by some kind of government ) thinks you should see.
    just watch Bowling for culumbine if you dont want to read, but get your own knowledge and dont let some unanimous ( spelling) writer/ presenter pump your brains full of info wich you believe to be true just cause ‘its been on national television dude!’

  61. to-sir
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:27

    i dont know about pak , but there is no freedom of speech in America and the rest of west.

    You cannot speak against jews and sodomites there ,but there is freedom to spread lies about Islam.

    Well if that is the freedom of speech ,keep it for yourself ,we don’t need this hypocricy.

  62. mr dupont
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:32

    The whole goddam intraweb should be censored for the safety of every human on this planet.Its evil.
    Force everyone to use Microsoft products, ban alcohol, bring back capitol punishment for tax evasion and incontinence. Shoot drug addicts and copyright thieves,
    Vote Torquemada! Bring back the good old days of the medievil juntas.

  63. Curious
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:34

    @58

    You can easily google these and find many, many reports …

    Muslim rape victims getting tossed out of their villages because they are impure…
    Muslim clerics saying that women who dress immodestly are responsible if they are raped…
    Muslim fathers performing “honor killings” on their own daughters because they raped…
    Muslim rape victims stoned to death because they had “unlawful sexual intercourse” (I guess since they didn’t die fighting their rapist, they must have wanted it)…

  64. Wankstar
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:38

    @63 mr. dupont

    Sniff sniff… do i hint a smell of sarcasm? ;)

  65. to-sir
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:40

    @64 what you are saying might be happening but Islam is totally against such barbaric action done by some Muslims who are obviously not following what Islam says.

    Also these muslims do these unislamic acts such as honor killings due to their anger and not because Islam teaches them.

    Honor killings are actually done more by Sikhs and Hindus , if you see the statistics.

    I am not saying sikhism or hinduism is responsible for these acts but those are the statistics.

  66. leeching_slags
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:41

    amazing some people really are thick. Listen how stupid you sound a Muslim father honor kills his daughter because she is raped, firstly I would not call this man a muslim more of a lunatic. Do you really think that in the east forensic evidence and alike is not used to convict rape cases it seems that you are another armchair expert who has never lived or experienced the countries that you talk about. And women who dress immodestly do have a degree of responsibility if they are raped as they are willingly wearing clothes which they know some inbred men will stare and lust at them and those with no self control and morals will attack them. Its common sense if two women wear down the street, one wearing modest clothes covering her skin and the other women wearing a skirt upto her bum and top that goes as low as her belly button which one will men try and bother?

  67. leeching_slags
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:42

    In the words of M.Ali ” They were wearing less clothes on the beach then they do in bed!”

    gotta love him

  68. ZHD
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:43

    I think it’s not a big deal to block youtube, if it happens in my country, I would be fine. youtube sucks anyway.

  69. san
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:44

    who said there is freedom of speach in america. have you heard of the case of the girl that insulted bush on her myspace page and was arrested. i can name tonees of cases like that. just because you are in the usa doesnt mean you cant be ignorant. i have read a lot of ignorant statement that is so funny. but ALAS, who cares. with the rate of people converting to islam, USA is scared of its very exixtence

  70. Curious
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:47

    In actuality, there is censorship to one degree everywhere. To be 100% free from censorship, you should be able to say what you want, whenever and wherever you want it.

    Certain censorship is there for the greater good (i.e., restricting pornography to adults, etc), but a greater majority of it is politically and/or religiously (or both in theocracies) based.

    Oh .. btw to-sir (#62), if anti-Jewish speech were censored in the United States, how do you account for the KKK and other groups being able to put forth their own views without being censored (it may be reprehensible, but it’s still their right to spew it)

  71. Curious
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:51

    @70 .. would you care to post a link to your claim? I’ve googled every interation of your statement and still came up with nothing … must be the “shadow world government” censoring that story…

  72. leeching_slags
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:54
  73. Curious
    February 25th, 2008 | 19:58

    @70 … Ahh .. finally .. I came across what you were referring to…

    There was a girl on myspace THREATING TO KILL THE PRESIDENT .. she wasn’t arrested, she was questioned by federal agents.

    So .. what you refer to as an instance of “no free speech” is actual a case where law enforcement officials investigated a crime (it’s against the law to threaten to kill the leader of the United States .. just like it is in many, many other countries) and questioned a suspect (who said that what she did was wrong and apologized).

    Now who’s the ignorant one…

  74. Curious
    February 25th, 2008 | 20:12

    @66

    to-sir, I couldn’t agree with you more — the people that commit these acts are not representative of the greater whole, but what is disturbing is that these acts are tolerated by others within the society (i.e., when police look on while girls are stoned to death).

    Personally, I think this is one of the situations you encounter with religious states, rather than secular ones. While the arguement for religious states is that the code of morality can be enforced with the rule of law, it also shows that traditions that have evolved from hundreds, if not thousands, of years are also enforced with little regard for the evolution of societies.

  75. hey
    February 25th, 2008 | 20:15

    All religion is fraud. Get over it!… The jews, the muslims, the christians, the hindus and all the other religious believers are being conned. Religion has been twisted thousands of times by the same kind of people that twist todays media, what makes you think it is anything but fake?

  76. shaqattack
    February 25th, 2008 | 20:22

    @70 You’re missing the point, America has freedom of speech, within limits, if you start making threats to kill then you are breaking the law in a civilised society.

  77. muratiff
    February 25th, 2008 | 20:24

    Reallity about is ISLAM all begings with jewish media bosses trying so hard to make our religion to look so bad,so that way all around the world people thinks they are the bad guys, they are using innocent american lives to kill innocent muslim people, american soldiers are not fighting for freedom, they are fighting for security for israel. September 11 2001 3000 jewish employes did NOT show up that morning, i wounder why and trust me u cannot fly a boeing air plane and hit your target with 3 months of amature aircraft license. Its all setup up by jews, they are taking their revenge from christian people how they killed them in europe by nazis, but americans thinks muslim people dose it, and jews laughs but of the christian and muslim side and laugh their ass off.

  78. busted
    February 25th, 2008 | 20:25

    Pakistan needs freedom from religion apparently.

  79. shaqattack
    February 25th, 2008 | 20:28

    @hey totally agree with you. People may as well worship comic book superheroes instead!

    @78 No evidence at all to support any of that, I doubt there is some kind of super Jew club planning these conspiracies lol

  80. to-sir
    February 25th, 2008 | 20:31

    @78 irrespective of who did september 11, whether it was government sponsored, or the jews did it, or some deviated muslims did it , one has to say that this is an act of terror forbidden in all religions including christianity, islam and judaism.

  81. Faiz
    February 25th, 2008 | 20:52

    I think Religious related news should be written in RLSLOG ?

    Every Religion has its own merits & demerits.
    so pls dont blab about ur religion is great mine is bad or religion itself is bad.

    I hate to read these topics but …
    ______________
    Peace.
    ______________

    OFFTOPIC :
    Any1 knows Enchanted , CLOVERFIELD & THE SAVAGES R5 Rls dates.

  82. Faiz
    February 25th, 2008 | 20:55

    I think Religious related news shouldnt be written in RLSLOG ?

    Every Religion has its own merits & demerits.
    so pls dont blab about ur religion is great mine is bad or religion itself is bad.

    I hate to read these topics but …
    ______________
    Peace.
    ______________

    OFFTOPIC :
    Any1 knows Enchanted , CLOVERFIELD & THE SAVAGES R5 Rls dates.

    SORRY FOR DOUBLE POST

  83. Dorje
    February 25th, 2008 | 21:00

    @70 San

    You lied about the facts surrounding an actual event to bolster your misrepresentation. Are your other “tonees of cases like that” like that? You should be a iranian politician, or chinese…..or US lol

    The 14 year old girl in the case is a silly little tw@t and so are you.

    @73 thanks for the facts.

  84. allu
    February 25th, 2008 | 21:13

    Pakistan’s own england in 20 years there will be half the population, Then the english will crawl away like the cowards at dunkirk.

  85. Dorje
    February 25th, 2008 | 21:28

    Yikes, the site with 73’s article is Alex Jones website. He is a total conspiracy theory tard. But actually Jones is a lightweight tard when you compare him to that Icke guy. He’s the Lizard King of the conspiracy nuts. But the article looks like it is a repost from: Marc Parent / Sacramento Bee | October 14 2006

    Funny how the US haters and the Arab haters all spew the same lies and disinformation. Many of the same lies started by the Catholic Church a looong time ago.

    “It has served us well, this myth of Christ.” — Pope Leo X

    We’ll probably all be dead before the core lies of Islam see daylight

  86. Xaero
    February 25th, 2008 | 21:42

    #39, Reality, you’re a idiot. You can marry a Christian or a Jew WITHOUT having to convert them to Islam. So much ignorance in this whole comments section, it would take me a day to correct you all so I’m just going to say that. Also, Islam FORBIDS to kill anyone innocent (religion doesn’t matter). It doesn’t ask you to kill non believers either UNLESS you’re being attacked by them. Stop going on the internet and then look up an anti-islam site/video that tells you some quotes that are misinterpreted and taken out of context.

  87. Hazizk
    February 25th, 2008 | 21:57

    i agree with you muratiff

    people like Reality(no.33) advise the Muslims not to attack non-Muslims; I request you people to direct your advice to those authorities, who only claim to be ‘peaceful, peace-loving people’ and ‘peace-keepers of the world’, but ironically have attacked thousands of innocent Muslims under the theme ‘War on terror’. The noted writer Arundhati Roy states: “So now we know. Pigs are horses. Girls are boys. War is Peace.”

    The terrorist acts attributed to Muslim suspects, should not be attributed to Islam or the Muslims in general but to individual human weaknesses. Such human failings occur among all religious and ethnic groups. Recorded history has not witnessed an incident similar to the ‘Holocaust’. However, one is not expected to and should not attribute the holocaust to Christianity or to Christians in general.

    A number of skeptics have made comments about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Skeptics allege that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was “a violent man, a man of war”. Some further state that “Jesus set the example for love, as did Moses … Muhammad set an opposite example” (remember Jerry Falwell?). These skeptics somehow fail to realize that far from being a man of war, “…he (Muhammad) must be called the saviour of humanity”, as described thus by George Bernard Shaw.

    Though the portrayal of Moses and Jesus (pbut) of being peace-loving people is fully in accordance with the teachings of the Qur’an, the Biblical testimony is contrary to it. Many quotations from these Biblical testimonies can be given to substantiate this claim, but considering the length of the answer, I will simply furnish ONE incident that will prove my point, because in this ONE incident, no less than three thousand people were killed by the sword at the command of Biblical Moses. We read:

    “(Moses said): ‘Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbour’. The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died.” (Exodus 32:27-28, NIV)

    It is also a well-known fact that the total number of deaths that took place in ALL the wars fought during the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was 1018. The biblical quotation given above and many such quotations appear to escape the grasp of those who allege against Muhammad (pbuh), further ignoring the words of Jesus:

    “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.”

    (Matthew 7:1-2 KJV)

  88. wasim
    February 25th, 2008 | 22:07

    @33 – i would suggest you get a decent translation of the koran not a version which is used for propaganda. i speak arabic and have read the koran many times, your quotes/translation are totally wrong. an intelligent person not just read some translation and take it to be correct, he would do some research before quoting it. i would recommend a good translation but i am sure that you are not interested in knowing the truth but want to know a way of condemning islam.

    on the subject of censorship of youtube, i can understand why pakistani government would do this.. pakistan has a very high percentage of illiterate people and fundamentalists would use such videos to spread propaganda to them and encite them to carry out terror attacks.

  89. BMK
    February 25th, 2008 | 22:08

    Actually…….. YOUR all wrong
    Muslim men can marry anyone they want as long as they do it on christmas morning,otherwise they must both convert to buddhism sell their families camels and move to america and open a corner store.

    Hope this clears things up for yall.

  90. derek
    February 25th, 2008 | 22:22

    “And women who dress immodestly do have a degree of responsibility if they are raped”

    leeching_slags- You are a worthless piece of sh!t

  91. leeching_slags
    February 25th, 2008 | 22:28

    try thinking with logic once in a while dumbass, what I said is a sad fact but the bottom line is that its true. I am amazed you can even calculate the spam protection sum

  92. derek
    February 25th, 2008 | 22:30

    It must suck to live in Pakistan. Here in the U.S. I can go out in the street and yell f*ck George Bush and f*ck Christianity all I want in the streets. Censorship must be a b!tch there. lol

  93. derek
    February 25th, 2008 | 22:31

    A women is NOT responsible for being harmed by another person, I don’t care if she is walking around naked in the streets you idiot.

  94. derek
    February 25th, 2008 | 22:34

    Poor slags has no control over his d!ck, he will go rape provocative women and it is not his fault.

  95. leeching_slags
    February 25th, 2008 | 22:38

    I did not state that she is entirely responsible hence the word “degree”, furthermore I did not generalise and say women as you are I said ones who wear hardly anything and even gave an example earlier for idiots like you.
    I’ll even dumb it down for you, if a guy walks into Harlem in a nazi uniform and a skinhead happens to get the beating of his life he must accept a DEGREE of responsibility, that doesn’t mar the fact that he shouldn’t have been beaten up!

    Just because it aint right doesn’t mean it wont happen, what people must do is try to minimise the possibility of such an event happening and wearing next to nothing is not a preventative measure.

  96. derek
    February 25th, 2008 | 22:42

    No, he is not responsible, the people beating him are resposible, you dumb@ss, you can’t control your d!ck or your fists either?

    Just because it will happen, doesn’t make it right. You people are the reason the world will never change.

  97. leeching_slags
    February 25th, 2008 | 22:45

    I think you are the dumbest person I have spoken to. I am not saying that the perpetrator should not be held accountable for their actions at all, of course they are responsible.

    I would be amazed if English is you first language as you don’t even have the ability to interpret what is written in plain english.

  98. derek
    February 25th, 2008 | 22:50

    You said that a woman can be however responsible for her own rape you f*cktard. Tip: Rethink your logic.

  99. Youtube Pakistan
    February 25th, 2008 | 22:51

    Just thought I’d start a thread for people to post links to Youtube and other videos sites vidoes that are Anti-Islam.

    “Why Muhammed could NOT have been a prophet”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6HWCV-tMoQ

    The above video is from the following particular youtube video channel of “ExMuslim879″ @ http://www.youtube.com/exmuslim879
    Whom has tons of videos that are against and expose Islam.

    Also, check the vids from youtuber Pat Condell’s{whom has several anti-islamic vids} channel @
    http://www.youtube.com/patcondell
    To get you started=”the trouble with Islam” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc

    As well as the Anti-islamic rantings of CapnOAwesome at his youtube channel
    http://www.youtube.com/YourReligionSucks
    To get you started on one of his{he has other stuff too, but has several anti-islamic vids}:
    =”Tolerance Sucks” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=312qyGZHxSA

  100. leeching_slags
    February 25th, 2008 | 22:52

    You really are dimmest individual I have come across.
    Go back to school learn how to read, write and then one day move onto reading material and drawing accurate conclusions.

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