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		<title>By: Vitz</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/opera-attacks-microsofts-monopoly-policy/comment-page-2/#comment-180220</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lolz, I use opera most of the time now :P haha . Firefox use to be fast but then they have that Abnormal memory usage which doesn&#039;t seem to be solving o_O even after many update and many tweaking . Then I use Opera :), fine as F.... :P .
Hardly use IE now, maybe if I still using vista with its IE7 :D .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lolz, I use opera most of the time now <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  haha . Firefox use to be fast but then they have that Abnormal memory usage which doesn&#8217;t seem to be solving o_O even after many update and many tweaking . Then I use Opera <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> , fine as F&#8230;. <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  .<br />
Hardly use IE now, maybe if I still using vista with its IE7 <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
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		<title>By: dionisus</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/opera-attacks-microsofts-monopoly-policy/comment-page-2/#comment-178716</link>
		<dc:creator>dionisus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Internet Explorer should not be a required part of the system, meaning that it could be safely uninstalled without losing ANY functionality.&quot;
That is the POINT in this case! NOT that M$ bundle a Browser with their OS.

You can Install and uninstall FF / Opera as much as you want. but you cant with IE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Internet Explorer should not be a required part of the system, meaning that it could be safely uninstalled without losing ANY functionality.&#8221;<br />
That is the POINT in this case! NOT that M$ bundle a Browser with their OS.</p>
<p>You can Install and uninstall FF / Opera as much as you want. but you cant with IE.</p>
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		<title>By: jv (twatwad is r3tarded)</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/opera-attacks-microsofts-monopoly-policy/comment-page-2/#comment-177815</link>
		<dc:creator>jv (twatwad is r3tarded)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>twatwad wrote:
ultra-noob jv wrote the encryption camera/shy is based on?

don’t think so nubbycakes :D
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Feel free to think that. It was actually based on the (free) work from many people. Camerashy can be be used with any encription.
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twatwad wrote:
ultranoob jv says camera/shy is about to be released for firefox?

don’t think so nubbycakes :D
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I never said it would be released by the same people. It&#039;s GPL code anyone can use it.
An unofficial FF client was already build years ago. 
Mozilla was one of the first companies that showed any interest in this:
http://www.linux.com/feature/23858
Full source code:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/camerashy/release0.2.23.1.zip?modtime=1028862716&amp;big_mirror=0
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twatwad wrote:
ultra-n00b jv sucks from Mr Slave’s rectum?

yeh that one’s true :D
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Hmm... 
That would explain the bad taste in my mouth after a blackout...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>twatwad wrote:<br />
ultra-noob jv wrote the encryption camera/shy is based on?</p>
<p>don’t think so nubbycakes <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Feel free to think that. It was actually based on the (free) work from many people. Camerashy can be be used with any encription.<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>twatwad wrote:<br />
ultranoob jv says camera/shy is about to be released for firefox?</p>
<p>don’t think so nubbycakes <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
I never said it would be released by the same people. It&#8217;s GPL code anyone can use it.<br />
An unofficial FF client was already build years ago.<br />
Mozilla was one of the first companies that showed any interest in this:<br />
<a href="http://www.linux.com/feature/23858" rel="nofollow">http://www.linux.com/feature/23858</a><br />
Full source code:<br />
<a href="http://downloads.sourceforge.net/camerashy/release0.2.23.1.zip?modtime=1028862716&amp;big_mirror=0" rel="nofollow">http://downloads.sourceforge.net/camerashy/release0.2.23.1.zip?modtime=1028862716&amp;big_mirror=0</a><br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>twatwad wrote:<br />
ultra-n00b jv sucks from Mr Slave’s rectum?</p>
<p>yeh that one’s true <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Hmm&#8230;<br />
That would explain the bad taste in my mouth after a blackout&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vajid</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/opera-attacks-microsofts-monopoly-policy/comment-page-2/#comment-177570</link>
		<dc:creator>Vajid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@99.. well said.. freedom of choice my ass.. they are fightin for the dumbass who cant download a browser otherwise.. kiss ass Opera..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@99.. well said.. freedom of choice my ass.. they are fightin for the dumbass who cant download a browser otherwise.. kiss ass Opera..</p>
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		<title>By: Fazlul Rahuman Fazal</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/opera-attacks-microsofts-monopoly-policy/comment-page-2/#comment-177469</link>
		<dc:creator>Fazlul Rahuman Fazal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How crazy r these ppl? They should make a Film with the name &quot;Browser War&quot;. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How crazy r these ppl? They should make a Film with the name &#8220;Browser War&#8221;. <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bill gates</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop using IE.  You have a choice.  Also stop using Windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop using IE.  You have a choice.  Also stop using Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: trell</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/opera-attacks-microsofts-monopoly-policy/comment-page-2/#comment-177412</link>
		<dc:creator>trell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To everyone who&#039;s leaving a &#039;My br0w5er pwnz, yr br0w5er is teh suxx0r&#039; type posts, give it a rest. You use the browser you prefer. Each has their strengths, and each has their weaknesses. You are not going to get extra brownie points for using the most obscure browser that you can find either...

However, it does demonstrate that Opera have got it completely wrong! The fact that we are all on different browsers, and all discussing the benefits &amp; merits of them just show that Microsoft have not monopolised anything. If their built-in IE7 actively blocked pages where additional browsers could be downloaded, then yes. You could happily say that MS were monopolising the market. 

As good as Opera is at providing a decent browser, I suspect that MS is going to completely wipe the floor with them if Opera do try to sue over this whole &#039;monopolisation&#039; accusation.

Oh, and JV &amp; Twadwad - get a room, you two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To everyone who&#8217;s leaving a &#8216;My br0w5er pwnz, yr br0w5er is teh suxx0r&#8217; type posts, give it a rest. You use the browser you prefer. Each has their strengths, and each has their weaknesses. You are not going to get extra brownie points for using the most obscure browser that you can find either&#8230;</p>
<p>However, it does demonstrate that Opera have got it completely wrong! The fact that we are all on different browsers, and all discussing the benefits &amp; merits of them just show that Microsoft have not monopolised anything. If their built-in IE7 actively blocked pages where additional browsers could be downloaded, then yes. You could happily say that MS were monopolising the market. </p>
<p>As good as Opera is at providing a decent browser, I suspect that MS is going to completely wipe the floor with them if Opera do try to sue over this whole &#8216;monopolisation&#8217; accusation.</p>
<p>Oh, and JV &amp; Twadwad &#8211; get a room, you two.</p>
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		<title>By: [NZ]SoniKalien</title>
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		<dc:creator>[NZ]SoniKalien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@132 Reality

Apologies, I got my Steves mixed up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@132 Reality</p>
<p>Apologies, I got my Steves mixed up.</p>
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		<title>By: koszi</title>
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		<dc:creator>koszi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@135: or maybe you&#039;d prefer to have a choice during instalation of windows what browser do you want ? and it&#039;d be preinstalled with your system ? :)

this pre-installed browser is quite good idea, sadly it won&#039;t work.

Safari &gt; * :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@135: or maybe you&#8217;d prefer to have a choice during instalation of windows what browser do you want ? and it&#8217;d be preinstalled with your system ? <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>this pre-installed browser is quite good idea, sadly it won&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Safari &gt; * <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: aaaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need IE bundle with WINXP to download and install firefox...end of story...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need IE bundle with WINXP to download and install firefox&#8230;end of story&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Arcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Arcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh...this is getting annoying. Everybody who says Microsoft is a monopoly are short sighted idiots...It is quite clear, from the amount of people who enjoy beating them down, that in all probability, have another OS on their computer, that Microsoft is nothing more than an industry leading company, not a monopoly.

That said, Microsoft has the right to stick IE on PC&#039;s. After all, it isnt their fault that Opera didnt make an OS to rival theirs (they didnt make one at all!)...

The part I dont understand is that if Microsoft didnt put IE on computers, there would be no internet browser for them to download a different one with, hence making every &quot;Download this Browser&quot; button on any website a hypocritical idea. If they stuck in every browser that said, &quot;I want on there by default!&quot;, they would be no better than companies like Dell and HP who stick a bunch of bundled crap pre-installed on computers built by them. The reason I build my own computer and install just Windows is so that I can avoid such. I really dont enjoy going through and uninstalling everything I dont want on my computer...

I am not saying monopolies are good, far from it. All Im saying is that companies like Opera need to think a little bit more before they make dumb choices like this. It isnt like Microsoft has software that prevents you from installing any browser other than theirs. You have the freedom to use IE to download a different browser, if you like. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. All they did was pick the lesser of two evils, install one or install all of them...

It is times like this that remind me how greedy and un-intelligent people really are...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh&#8230;this is getting annoying. Everybody who says Microsoft is a monopoly are short sighted idiots&#8230;It is quite clear, from the amount of people who enjoy beating them down, that in all probability, have another OS on their computer, that Microsoft is nothing more than an industry leading company, not a monopoly.</p>
<p>That said, Microsoft has the right to stick IE on PC&#8217;s. After all, it isnt their fault that Opera didnt make an OS to rival theirs (they didnt make one at all!)&#8230;</p>
<p>The part I dont understand is that if Microsoft didnt put IE on computers, there would be no internet browser for them to download a different one with, hence making every &#8220;Download this Browser&#8221; button on any website a hypocritical idea. If they stuck in every browser that said, &#8220;I want on there by default!&#8221;, they would be no better than companies like Dell and HP who stick a bunch of bundled crap pre-installed on computers built by them. The reason I build my own computer and install just Windows is so that I can avoid such. I really dont enjoy going through and uninstalling everything I dont want on my computer&#8230;</p>
<p>I am not saying monopolies are good, far from it. All Im saying is that companies like Opera need to think a little bit more before they make dumb choices like this. It isnt like Microsoft has software that prevents you from installing any browser other than theirs. You have the freedom to use IE to download a different browser, if you like. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. All they did was pick the lesser of two evils, install one or install all of them&#8230;</p>
<p>It is times like this that remind me how greedy and un-intelligent people really are&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lavaground</title>
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		<dc:creator>lavaground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the notepad is too imba, it should be removed from the standard os install *rofl*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the notepad is too imba, it should be removed from the standard os install *rofl*</p>
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		<title>By: Reality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@128 [NZ]SoniKalien,
 &quot;Apple was founded by Steve Jobs&quot; should read &quot;Apple was co-founded by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak&quot;.  

Wozniak being more the computer nerd and technical partner while Jobs being more the marketer. &quot;In addition to designing the hardware, Wozniak wrote most of the software initially provided with the Apple.&quot;
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@128 [NZ]SoniKalien,<br />
 &#8220;Apple was founded by Steve Jobs&#8221; should read &#8220;Apple was co-founded by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Wozniak being more the computer nerd and technical partner while Jobs being more the marketer. &#8220;In addition to designing the hardware, Wozniak wrote most of the software initially provided with the Apple.&#8221;<br />
Source: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak</a></p>
<p> <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: knux</title>
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		<dc:creator>knux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mr. X

GOS sounded cool but OOS? maybe they will call it Phantom, nice play on words atleast, but they don&#039;t have enough money to do it plus their mobile browser sucks on Palms (not that Palm helps the matter)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mr. X</p>
<p>GOS sounded cool but OOS? maybe they will call it Phantom, nice play on words atleast, but they don&#8217;t have enough money to do it plus their mobile browser sucks on Palms (not that Palm helps the matter)</p>
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		<title>By: afx99</title>
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		<dc:creator>afx99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>go on opera... kick ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go on opera&#8230; kick ass.</p>
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