One more new comment-related site rule
With our growing number of readership (81 000 unique visitors yesterday) come also some problems. One of the most visible are comments. I already posted one message about good behaviour in comments and it has improved a bit, but we have a new problem now. People post information about completely offtopic things and releases in comments, and that has to stop.
Although we appreciate your kindness and need of sharing information about new releases with other readers of RLSLOG, comments aren’t ideal place for this. Comments are ALWAYS release / news specific. This means, we allow only talk about the certain release or tech news. Imagine this situation: someone browse the internet and want to find info about certain movie. He goes to Google and search for it. One of the links then leads to Releaselog with all important info and samples about such a movie. But when this anonymous internet user wants to read little more about the quality of the release or movie in comments, but he finds only discussion about completely different movie or release. And this sucks, doesn’t it?
Because we can’t afford playing mouse & cat with current amount of visitors, we decided for pretty strict and non-forgiving rule once again. Every user posting offtopic comments in comment section of certain release will be banned. Without warning, without mailing. No exceptions, no unbanning. This is the only way how can we keep the site clean and user-friendly. May be it will decrease the amount of comments, but this may be only helpful, because you won’t have troubles finding the actual information in the load of garbage. If you really have a need to talk about some new release or ask for help, please use NewTorrents.info forum which is also full of nice people prepared to help you with your issue. And as in case of previous rule, we really mean it, our IP filter contains already well over 100 banned IPs and it may be quickly growing if you decide to not respect this new rule…
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Comments(38)
Respect. GL with the bann-database.
Why don’t you guys make a forum for discussions?
I agree that users should have to register and post in forums.
Oh man, that shocking scenario you described made me shiver in relentless fear! We cannot allow such a devastating thing to happen! We cannot!! We must join together to stop this ever growing menace that Al Quaididaa is probably financing.
a forum would be nice, a place for help,requests,complaints, off topic discussion, and general bitching.
hi. i am a regular viewer of this great site and i have never commented before. but i just feel like commenting on this one. i have grown tired of all the off topic comments. i used to read just about all comments, but with these recent off topic ones, i just skip it all.
so it’s great to here this from site admin, Martin. good job!
dynamic ip ftw
Only register nick can post a comments.
Good job man , i always asked 4 good behaviour in comments but i think this is the only way to stop them .
Banned the IP isn’t enough and u know that.
Peace..0
Good idea Martin…you might also think about banning people for their rude, obnoxious,and disrespectful comments towards the editors and yourself. I mean I’m all for differing opinions but some of the comments made against the rlslog staff are utterly uncalled for.
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Like Mr0, wouldnt it be easier just to make commenting for registered user ?
Because this kind of threatening might attract people in a wrong way.
if the staff of rlslog continue to make inappropriate political comments with regards to releases, isn’t it a little unrealistic to expect the users not to do the same ?
2 lostart: i said it many times already: if there’s some asshole who wants to make a mess here, registration won’t stop anything. it’s so easy to register 1 or 10 freemails with different usernames now there won’t be absolutely no difference.
2 JennaTalia: discussing political aspects is okey if you stick to the topic and limit yourself within some boundaries. of course, editors here at releaselog should be as neutral as possible but i can’t guarantee this every time.
how dumb can u get… banning ips lead nowhere but eventually damaging your own… hahaha just ban my ip i can get 100 new ones… but my current ip will be forever preventing using rlslog and what when it happens to be given to another rlslog reader… ahaha
I thin cats are much better for pets, than dogs. Dogs bark all the time, and not so furry…. , lol
Well, if you make delay between sending confirmation mail like for 24 hours, track ip and dont allow multiple registerations from same ip, i would really say it would slow down “assholes”. And to make it more steady, allow only confirmation from the same ip, which was used during registeration. Since free proxies doesnt usually stand up long.
Also, add list for public proxy services, ban ip ranges ( aol, estonians ) and and..
But why bother? Wouldnt it be just simpler not to feed the trolls ?
ok, i know the solution for this problem:
we need two comment section for each post, one on-topic and one off-topic…
I’ve said it before, remove the comments all together. They contribute very little useful, maybe 1 out of 100 comments have something useful. Set up an email where readers can send in contributions / addendum to a rlslog post, and you seem to hang around the site most of the day anyway, so there shouldn’t be a problem updating a post with new info if necessary.
Martin: if you can’t ask your employees to be held accountable every time they post something, then how can you ask your visitors to guarantee they won’t threadcrap when one of your employees isn’t held accountable to the same rules you ask the users to abide by ?
oh, nevermind, i see you will ban ip’s. extreme, but you’ll need to ban by domain for that to be effective, at which point more angry users will proxy, and then threadcrap.
with all due respect, appreciate your site and appreciate the work you do, but that is no way to run a business.
this is a business right Martin ?
Great rule. I totally agree
And what are you talking about JennaTalia?
Well, I doubt my opinion will count in any manner, as some obviously consider me one of the main offenders here for pointing out some of the most obvious mistakes, but I have to be honest about it: I’d rather say or read something that me or other people may find educational or useful than stare at a bunch of “finnaly…PUKKA”, “My sister came home from vacation and talked about this movie coming up in around here. Ill get this release for her. Thnx for the post.”, “thanks 10/10″, and “omg,nice qality! thx,PUKKA rls.
goodies work!” (all are real quotes from this site) comments that waste space even without formally being offtopic. At least those Cuba’s healthcare and Islam in America comments, however inflammatory some of them were, taught me a couple of things I hadn’t known. What is there to say about releases themselves? “Nice” and “Thanks”?
Shoutbox or sort of thingie for offtopic?
or create a rule/mechanism for offtopic posters to identify their comment with a tag. [offtopic] / [unrelated]
this way, sorting would be possible
Or hireing voluntary ops for deleting useless comments
I totally agree on this. It is really anoying when you wanna read some coments on a movie and all people is disgussing is some other relaese
Keep up the good work
- Michael
I didn’t even know you had a forum. lol. will redirect comments there if I feel the need.
a shoutbox type thing is cool idea. dont know how managable it would be though.
lol at comment #26
My trouble is i agree with both Boo and Martin.
A shoutbox could be a good compromise.
Might be the most popular section on the quiet days
Another possible way>
manually approving good commenters, and an approved commenters filter on the site
or any !commenter! could mark previus comments on- or offtopic, and a filter link for very low rated comment’s
What I was trying to say in the previous post is that I’d rather suggest removal of all offensive (racist, sexist, anti-Semitic, etc), unintelligible, and obviously unnecessary (e.g. “OMG PUKKA RULES!” types) comments, perhaps preceded by the one warning rule* to let some newcomers know in advance that their actions are unwelcome. Otherwise I just really don’t see the reason for these comments to exist. Frankly, the only reason I spend some of my time here and not on, let’s say, Ars Technica forums, is because this is one of the few places where one can discuss new scene releases and not some vaguely interesting technological news. Without those comments, there are plenty of places that provide similar reviews of new stuff almost as quickly as RLSLOG does. I’ve visited those places and they are not that interesting.
Also, I don’t see how I can possibly post anything now. Last time I pointed out to Mr.X that his review phrase “not everyone who is brown is a terrorist, unlike what the US media wants you to think” was a bit biased against the States, I was told that “…since there are many children who like to post here, and they are incapable of intelligent thought…if your IQ is below 90, and you are named:…Boo. And I won’t delete their comments or ban them, so others can see how ignorant their thought processes are.” With this ambiguous announcement, I don’t see any other choice than to stop commenting on anything in order not to get banned…
*One warning rule doesn’t mean spending additional time on offenders: after a comment has been deleted, if the poster continues to violate the rules even once again, that person will be banned.
or even better, your employees or staff or whatever could not make deliberate provocative political comments, get called on their bullshit and be publically humiliated, and then run to you and cry how unfair it all is.
http://www.rlslog.net/aliens-in-america-s01e01-preair-dvdrip-xvid-wslr/#comments
lol, no ‘
Anybody spotted the irony, 30 posts and
nobody has gone offtopic
Hey how bout a big shout box?
I mean, it would clean the commens up pretty easy without having to ban people n stuff….
Not that hard to get one is it?
or maybe a java chat
How about do what major private trackers do, and put ’say thanks’ button?
Throws BS comments right out the door.
Get rid of the comment section!!! Is this a forum??? No!!!
I think this is a little over the edge .. No reason to flip over some off topic comments? It is a part of it. The other way around people are almost scared away from postin..
What I just wrote is on-topic.. Plz don’t ban me .. ^^
I downloaded some boxing from here not long ago, it was described as a great fight, it wasn’t even a fight, never mind great.
I am happy for you to do what you want with your site but if you do one thing could you make sure that people who write about releases know what they are talking about or lose them? They have heard of Google, right? It is not rocket science and there are many here who would actually put the work in rather than lazy out another “I have no idea what I am talking about” post.
The boxing post was a waste of my time and others, if you think that when that happens I am not going to say what is on my mind in the comments you may as well ban me now.
I will however be back later whatever you do, so why flex your muscles when you are in a fight that can not be won.
Either stop any posts or accept that no matter how much power you think you have, you haven’t, this isn’t the 80’s and you aren’t the only person who knows how to use a computer properly and improperly.
i think its a good idea and have no problem with it at all as i luv this site and would not want to disrespect it as you all should to.
and the negitive feed back are from people that are still using public sites. hit and runners.
get yourselfs into a private site and you guys would respect what these guys are doing alot more i know i do.
thanks
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