Non-scene group: how to distribute releases?

Posted on 27.02.2008 at 20:30 in Offtopic by Martin

I receive many mails every single day. Most of them are tips from RLSLOG readers about interesting releases or pieces of news. Some of them are not so nice mails from antipiracy organizations. And from time to time, I receive a mail from a scene group regarding certain issue. This one was different – the author of it doesn’t belong to the scene yet, but has intentions to do basically the same thing as sceners do: release movies which noone else released. Here’s an excerpt from the email.

(…) A new group (but not a scene group… yet, anyway) whose goal
is to popularize Japanese cinema.

As a new group with no scene access or contacts, we are having a
very hard time figuring out an anonymous but still efficient and
high speed way to distribute releases.

Tor or other forms of anonymization will greatly slow down
torrents, and we really don’t want to do something that will expose
our IP or even our general location.

We were hoping that if we’d email you guys, you may be able to
suggest something that will ease distribution, or maybe even
provide a helping hand until we have the resources to efficiently
distribute on our own. (…)

I politely replied as I do with almost every mail and suggested certain ways or methods which could be used to ditribute the content without exposing the IP addresses of seeders / creators. However, I’m pretty sure you will have many other ideas and insights into this problem so I would be happy if you could express your opinion in comments below. It might help other individuals who would like to follow this group in a similar manner.

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Clark

February 27th, 2008 | 20:32

Don’t tell people to release pirated stuff. It’s just wrong.
desperate4gurls

February 27th, 2008 | 20:33

do it all from someone elses computer
djhellboy

February 27th, 2008 | 20:36

Hohoho!

nice…!

use encryptions or codenames to upload or distribute to peeeple with high speed internet access…enabling them to share on private trackers…or other open trackers…

i’m not sure though….
wWCF

February 27th, 2008 | 20:36

yeah i agree..don’t pirate stuff…
Marcus

February 27th, 2008 | 20:37

One of the best ways I have used is to upload files from the computers in the public library.
lolz

February 27th, 2008 | 20:38

Lolz at two posts above
Give them access to an ftp with other ppl accessing it and they will spread it for them
YS_happy

February 27th, 2008 | 20:39

tested proxyshell hide IP??
Do you have access to the local citylibrary??
Rigsby420

February 27th, 2008 | 20:41

@2 pmsl
A ssl newsgroup connection ?
John Doe

February 27th, 2008 | 20:44

Why not upload to newsgroups?

http://www.djm.org.uk/ngguide/
...

February 27th, 2008 | 20:44

rapidshare.com

…

If RS goes down, we all get busted…
cracked it

February 27th, 2008 | 20:46

@5 even better idea would be for you to put a few copies of the film inside some books in library and when people rent the books the will get the film, copy it and pass it on to a friend, it would spread like wildfire
Anthony Kinson

February 27th, 2008 | 20:48

haha 2 above coments saying dont release pirated stuff… and there on a scene release site which is based around just that.

on topic i have often wondered this myself, i dont have access to anything brand spanking new in the cinemas or sceeners or anything, but i have a huge collection of dvd’s i’m planning on ripping and putting on an external hard drive, just so i can make the accessable throughout my house on the network (media center extenders).

nice article and i’m looking forward to learning how this can be done.
In this

February 27th, 2008 | 20:49

@1 + 4

Are you guy just a bunch of hypocrites or what? Why are you even on this site?
Anthony Kinson

February 27th, 2008 | 20:51

oh and i dont know about this, but annonymous off-shore hosting could be a possible solution.

not sure how all that works, maybe rent a dedicated server in iraq (lol) and maybe use that to seed as torrent or something.
CACERES22

February 27th, 2008 | 20:51

f.uck japanese movies and f.uck japanese people
plonut

February 27th, 2008 | 20:54

Newsgroups is surely the best way IMHO.
Kekojones

February 27th, 2008 | 20:56

They could just be FBI or MPAA looking for aditional evidence to burn down this website. Careful Martin….

If they need a way they shouldn’t be worried. There are plenty. Just do a search on google.
Blah

February 27th, 2008 | 20:58

Unless their Japanese stuff is licensed anime or licensed movies then wtf are they scared of? MPAA and other companies isn’t gonna give a damn about foreign films. Just release the stuff and quit being pussies.
MNB

February 27th, 2008 | 20:59

just join another scene grp, they’ll help u from there….then no worries…
Isis

February 27th, 2008 | 21:10

all these ip hides will never work cause it is sh!t slow

goto here: http://www.aboutthescene.com/general/index.html

its how the scene works and just do it by your self get some one with a 100mb line or higher to host a ftp server with ssl and a secure irc channel where you post all your own-scene releases
klark_kent

February 27th, 2008 | 21:11

“f.uck japanese movies and f.uck japanese people”

Me too! I love japanese “f.uck” movies, and there are MANY MANY japanese women that I would also like to f***!
estacado

February 27th, 2008 | 21:13

Use Tor, then upload to sharedzilla, flyupload, yastorage, adrive, megaupload, rapidshare, netload, upload.to, megaupload, etc.
Jelly

February 27th, 2008 | 21:14

Definitely a cool post. I don’t have any possible solutions, but it’d be great to see some quality Japanese cinema hitting the net.
Scuba

February 27th, 2008 | 21:17

Why not just use a seedbox? http://www.hivebox.net/ seems like a great service, though I’m not a user. Ask around and see what the best deal for an anonymous box is.
Stitch10925

February 27th, 2008 | 21:22

@16 (CACERES22)

Very mature…
OrthodoxAthiest

February 27th, 2008 | 21:22

1 more question – What benefit is there to being ‘in the scene’ vs. just being a p2p supplier (assuming one doesn’t care about being one’s chest, kudos or praise from the scene)?
hipple

February 27th, 2008 | 21:25

It’s probably the MPAA faking it all to find out more details and info on how the scene works… Dont be fooled!!!
Martin

February 27th, 2008 | 21:28

interesting, the specific solution i mentioned in my reply to them wasn’t written here yet. i will keep it for myself little longer.

@31: that would be most likely exactly this thing – better anonymity. no matter how degrading in terms of security the scene is, it’s still fairly complicated for average joe to get inside.
Joseph

February 27th, 2008 | 21:32

Ask around and get on IRC. If you dont know where to start or where you should be, you dont belong there.
Randomm

February 27th, 2008 | 21:36

Requesting ban-hammer for Nr. 16

While distributing from public PC is easy way to share stuff, it would give away your general location. Every IP can be geotracked.

Using _safe_ dedicated server + proxy + public PC + would grant quite high level of protection but at a cost of speedy upload. That is if they have no idea where you are located. Chaining a lot of proxies would be good idea, but it’s hard to get good proxies nowadays and it would definitely make the uploads slow.

I’d recommend getting _trustful_ contacts in countries where copyright laws aren’t so harsh and sending them files via proxy so they can share them for you.

Just make sure you don’t use your own home PC or any PC which could be easily matched to your real identity.

I don’t think that Japanese movie releases would get a lot of anti-pirate attention, their priority is Hollywood and EU, they don’t care about Asian movies that much. If you are located in Japan which I doubt judging from the quote, Japanese authorities might try to track you down, but again Japanese movies being leaked to audience which they were never targeted to isn’t such a big issue and definitely isn’t priority.

Another one: have your own server, give only few distributes access to your release files and make sure that only you have physical/virtual access to it. This one sounds a bit corny XD

Hope it helped.
@16, ban.
@12, just lol.
@9, encryption doesn’t protect your IP, it protects the data.
@6, as above + codename, okey: I’m Prisoner, James Prisoner Nr 007
name

February 27th, 2008 | 21:36

n00b question…
anyways

February 27th, 2008 | 21:38

Well the most anonymous way is the public host (rapidshare, etc.), another way also is to upload through a internet cafe or any place where there is an unsecure network. I guess just drive with your car in residential streets then when you get a unsecured network, just log on to it and upload!!
bob

February 27th, 2008 | 21:39

‘interesting, the specific solution i mentioned in my reply to them wasn’t written here yet’

That’s cos its full of bell-ends posting sheeyite
bobscibetti

February 27th, 2008 | 21:40

Martin: You should posts some of those “not so nice mails from antipiracy organizations” I, and I’m sure loads of others would love to see them….and get a good laugh.
QuadrupelQ

February 27th, 2008 | 21:42

Just do what aXXo did. He wasn’t scene, but even complete torrent-n00bs knew who he was and got his rips. Just do a better job quality wise, since his releases where always with dodgy sound and a low video-bitrate.

So basically it means getting a cool nick, upload GOOD QUALITY rips of RARE movies to big torrent sites (with public tracker if possible) like the Pirate Bay. Make sure you give the torrent a good description (look at some scene nfo-files). After a while, more and more people will notice your rips.

You won’t be scene, but who want to be that anyway?
QuadrupelQ

February 27th, 2008 | 21:44

Oh yeah, about security…

Just go live in a country where they don’t give a crap about piracy, like I do!
chriscross

February 27th, 2008 | 21:46

about those letters from antipiracy org.: you should post them here on rlslog like pirate bay does.
QuadrupelQ

February 27th, 2008 | 21:48

OR, here’s a good one that I’ve actually used myself when I was ripping stuff (years ago)…

Distribute your stuff at LAN-parties and such, that gets it going like nothing else! This way you really don’t have to worry about any privacy issues. Just include your nick in the filename. Almost all people are to lazy to rename them.
Not in a life time

February 27th, 2008 | 21:49

Do any of you people really think anyone with even a little bit of knowledge about how this is done, will share the information on a public site like this?

If anything, it will be advise from people that are maybe even experts on legal IT related subjects, wich tells you
how to re-route information,so that you might not be the first to be busted.

If you dont know how to do this properly already, asking around in a manner like this, does not help your goal.

This tells me that the email sent to rlslog is most likely an email from either a government related person, or a anti-piracy related person.

Imho, i think your response is spot on Martin.
uraloser

February 27th, 2008 | 21:52

@36: yet you have no answer, how dumb does that make you?
murdarar

February 27th, 2008 | 22:05

Martin should wake up. Posts like this are incriminating evidence that RLSLOG.net is not just an info site, but helps pirates or people who’d like to be pirates. You just don’t post stuff like this in the public if you’re wise. Posting info is one thing, but stuff like this…. It’s already fking stupid to write how you’re going to download something or you already have downloaded it and watched it.. Wake up.
Jacky

February 27th, 2008 | 22:09

I don’t know why this people want to become a scene group.Just keep the money and buy a nice car or house,stupid!
Iron Mask

February 27th, 2008 | 22:09

Probably the easiest way to spread this stuff without getting caught is to just not do it. Like someone else said, Japanese film sucks and who’s really going to leech it..much less, seed it when they find out it’s crap? If there is anyone that is really serious about releasing some worthy stuff… usually they want all the underground kudos they can get… does that make sense!?
OrthodoxAthiest

February 27th, 2008 | 22:10

@44…

a) I would hope that the experts are releasing scene and p2p files do so in a way whereby they cannot be connected with the files, or tracked by their behavior. If so, there is no danger in spreading their method.

(for example, the method I gave would mean the anti-piracy organization would need to know who you are so they could follow your vehicle, so they could wirelessly intercept your transfer to determine who you are. Its a vicious circle; unless you are already known by some other method, it is a very safe solution. p.s. do not wear a balaclava while driving around for hotspots!)

b) if the government/anti-piracy organizations don’t even know how the ‘experts’ are uploading files… then they should be fired! Give me $1,000 and 10 pizzas and I’ll find that out (as opposed to the millions they’ve spent to date).

p.s. I do not accept funds and pizzas from governments/anti-piracy organizations!
Derrick E.

February 27th, 2008 | 22:15

I think ISIS had the best response yet. Groups with access to huge pipes with private IRC and FTP access is how the releases start. From that point all it takes is a handful of people to get the releases to torrents, usenet, etc…
OrthodoxAthiest

February 27th, 2008 | 22:15

@46… Heard of the Jolly Roger Cook Book? RLSLog can give this information/opinion with complete impunity. Explaining how to fire a gun, or even build a bomb in the case of the example I gave previously, does not make you part responsible for the actions of a murderer… “RLSLog made me do it” would be a very funny defence, though. Ha.
Derrick E.

February 27th, 2008 | 22:20

And to murdarar, giving instruction on how to do something, and actually doing it are two different things. This site will not get taken down just for giving instruction. (Especially when the instruction is coming from a 3rd party and not the site owners.) Have you not noticed all the links to files on Rapidshare and Megaupload? There are bigger things to bring this site down and don’t think that the powers that be don’t know about rlslog. The site just isn’t enough of a threat for them to care at the moment. They are too busy trying to shut down Pirates Bay.
Plimmer

February 27th, 2008 | 22:22

People that want to do this kinda stuff should be aware of the fact that the FBI etc. goes after people that host files (IE distribute them) and people that supply the files (IE ripping movies).

The only way you could get a bigger tag over your head is to run one of thoose burn shops where you sell warez for money.

But yeah, basicly proxy untill you hit a proxy that dosent log your ip and you are good to go. After that any monkey with a fxp client can distribute stuff.
Randomm

February 27th, 2008 | 22:29

It’s not matter of where to upload as there are plenty of places where to upload. It’s a question how to upload so that you don’t expose your real IP/location. Once they have your general location and if they really would want to catch such a small rat as you it’s local police job. They’ll just track you down as any other criminal.

Wireless isn’t answer. It has IP which can expose location therefore the country/city where the access point is located. Wireless access point + proxy chain would be ok, but it’s not effective.

You just MUST have trustful person/proxy in other country as the first element of your distribution chain to cloak your ip/location. You security will be as strong as trustful this first element is. There’s no other way.
Randomm

February 27th, 2008 | 22:33

Also note that sharing theoretical information isn’t illegal. They can take down rlslog basing only on this post/comments. Also there is nothing new MPAA or w/e could learn from this talk.

It’s just funny to read some of the replies.
Isis

February 27th, 2008 | 22:45

martin what did you email them back ??
jeff

February 27th, 2008 | 22:52

I thought this place was way cooler.
N0SCeNe

February 27th, 2008 | 22:52

if he/she has a low upload speed, do what i use to do when i use to up to demonoid (R.I.P)convert avi to .mpg ,cuts the movie size in half or better , faster in completion get more seeders faster ,less time upping to torrent site

but thats just my 2 cents worth….
dagoburd

February 27th, 2008 | 22:53

Try relaaks … or use a seedbox in secure location (The Netherlands, Sweden … or somewhere where the piracy laws are not so tight). Distribute the content on big torrent sites AND speciliased in asian movies trackers.

Also if you want only to distribute japanese movies, and not to get all the credits, you cant try to contact scene groups, which have announced (in their nfos) that are looking for asian movies. (most of them will say ‘go to hell’, but you need only one group, so you must try to contact them all ). You can find groups which are releasing japanese movies, byt searching for well known japanese movies in pre channels, and check the group, are they interested in distributing those japanese movies taht you want.
Sakuji

February 27th, 2008 | 22:56

I don’t upload, but if I did, I would probably just go to an internet cafe, Borders, Starbucks, or whatever the local “pay to surf” place was. No way they can track that!
weho

February 27th, 2008 | 22:56

you need some cornerboys to peddle your stuff.
zweistein

February 27th, 2008 | 23:03

use pigeons to transfer the data, let them fly into the floppy disks of the ones who want the files. anonimity guarentittied.
AK

February 27th, 2008 | 23:08

Get this book, it will explain everything.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0763635820/ref=ase_fatwalletcom/
amy

February 27th, 2008 | 23:09

Martin, what did u write in the reply? Curious mind here wanna know. Pretty pls
Picwit

February 27th, 2008 | 23:13

Wasnt there an old FTP type client called Hotwire? I used to use it like 15 years ago and im not even sure if it is even around anymore. i did a quick search for it and didnt see anything. Anyone?
Han Solo

February 27th, 2008 | 23:15

I would like to know the best ways to process a dvd to a video file to maximise space used and quality. sync issues are no problem as i rarely have to fix them but file sizes is a big put off if timing is an issue. which software is best
h1pp0

February 27th, 2008 | 23:16

Why not just find a good affil and have people curry it for you? I’m pretty sure most affil sites doesn’t log your IP. Other ways would be to get XDCC bots on irc (old school ftw). If you have some money you can get seed boxes or dedicated VPS. Or you can do it the dirty way and have people r00t you some boxes then use them to distro your stuff. IMO best way would be to use unmetered VPS accounts so you can use them for seeding/newsgroup uploading/fxping.
mike

February 27th, 2008 | 23:19

this is simple most scene groups have email addies in there info send one an email with what you can offer if they like it they will get a hold of you
Joeee

February 27th, 2008 | 23:20

Rent a seedbox

alt

Trojan some noobs pc then seed from his machine :}
yourmumandme

February 27th, 2008 | 23:27

Ya internet cafe. no way ne1 can trace it. totally anonymous and safe. its not that complicated.
Hawking - Master Of the Universe lol

February 27th, 2008 | 23:28

I hope it all takes off for you. If you cant manage to cloak your ip private sites may be interested in helping with distribution. I loved that carrier pigeons remark I’m still giggling at that. gmao
HOWiE

February 27th, 2008 | 23:28

If you cant distribute through the scene, then you suck!! hahaha! Buts seriously, you need to get a good VPN and a good seedbox which you have full control of(soyou can remove all ip logs)in a country with lax piracy laws and rip away!!

Only downside to this is the money it costs! But guess thats the difference between sceners and leechers :/
anon

February 27th, 2008 | 23:38

net cafe / kinkos / etc. always good options.

the best though is to just hop onto an unsecured wifi network and post away, although none of these address the “general area” concern.
desperate4gurls

February 27th, 2008 | 23:46

Japan.is.horny.13.xxx
aft3rgl0w

February 27th, 2008 | 23:54

im still waiting martins answer to how he replied

btw the site that isis gave @ 23 is quality
i knew most of the parts but now i now all and they are explained very thouroughly.
gd gd

keep the scene alive.
Inevitable

February 28th, 2008 | 00:00

“goal is to popularize Japanese cinema”
1 Open LLC with such business model.
2 Negotiate with Japanese movie industry.
3 Officially release bunch of Japanese movies in US.
4 Let all you are renting or selling be downloaded for free from your company site using torrent clients.
Defleshed

February 28th, 2008 | 00:32

Requesting ban-hammer for Nr. 16
maVen

February 28th, 2008 | 00:33

if you provide me with a place to hide i’ll show you!
stunz

February 28th, 2008 | 00:37

@50
thats how i got in
Atlas

February 28th, 2008 | 00:46

Freenet
Darknet
Gnu-net

these protocols provide deniability. Use Darknet to post to a few volunteers with high speed connections and then they just seed it. Nobody will know your IP address. Gnunet is extremely new but not nearly as efficient as bittorrent. You can also upload to an ftp server in a country that is not in north america, europe or japan/many parts of the pacific rim. Great places to host may be the middle east(Egypt?), China, Russia, central/south america, Sweden(had to), Sealand, Iran. Be creative. Pick any country that is not directly allied to the US and you will be fine.
catusbill

February 28th, 2008 | 00:56

Why, if your against pirated stuff, do you come to this website? I wonder.
Joe

February 28th, 2008 | 01:12

Im a bit confused and need some help. Why are people who are against piracy even on this website little lone leaving comments. Thats like telling my girlfriend on not looking at porn im doing research. I guess this world if full of idiots
Dorje

February 28th, 2008 | 01:13

Avast, Ye Landlubbers of the nerd variety. The first think ya needs to do is get your yardarms out of your poopdecks, swash your buckles and defragment your bilges. yar. Asides from that Kurosawa feller (i luvs his films yar) do yas makes any films that doesn’t involve poo? Ya gots to have the right Pirattitude or as the sc@t luvin samurai might say Sc@ttitudeya. Them German fellers likes the poo too. Good luck mateys! Keeps your eye on the horizon or them RIAA scallywags will kee-haul you and send send you to Davy Jone’s locker. Yar
VTJ

February 28th, 2008 | 01:23

The XviD Releasing Standards 2005
RELEASE RULES
Source: http://www.aboutthescene.com/thescene/scenerules.html , Same as @23

Movie Length:
- PAL (25 fps) = MINIMUM runtime is 100 minutes/CD.
- FILM (23.976 fps) = MINIMUM runtime is 105 minutes/CD.
- NTSC (29.97 fps) = MINIMUM runtime is 87 minutes/CD.
- These runtimes are scalable via the following equation:
N CD time minimum = (N-1) *, allowed time where N is number of CDs and allowable time applies to fps as outlined above:
i.e. 3 CD FILM rip minimum = 105 x (3-1) = 210 minutes.
- MINIMUM time length rule is as implied – that is the MINIMUM time per CD – NOT MAXIMUM!!! (i.e. no such thing as “must be more than 1 CD”)
- Release runtime must be at least 50 minutes for using the full burnable media capacity. In such cases, releases MUST utilize a MINIMUM of 680mb of the 700mb standard burnable media (Multi-CD releases MUST conform to the 680mb minimum, for each CD used). Any other use of the media shall not be over 350mb (Sizes between 350mb to 680mb are not allowed).
- Media usage is at ripper’s discretion, please use it.

AUDIO:
- MUST be MP3 or Studio AC3 (AC3 transcoding forbidden).
- MUST be STEREO for STEREO sources, MONO for MONO sources
(MONO audio as STEREO on source is considered a MONO source).
- MUST BE VBR! NO CBR MP3!
- MP3 tracks must have the original frequency as it was on the DVD’s audio: i.e. 48khz for 48khz and 44.1khz for 44.1khz.
- MP3 files must be normalized.
- ABR is considered a VBR technique.
- AC3 MUST be used wisely and correctly. Ripper’s discretion on when to use it. Using or not using AC3 IS NOT a technical flaw.
- MONO AC3 is not allowed, in that case must encode to mono MP3.
- Multi-language audio tracks are FORBIDDEN! (Use INTERNAL!)

VIDEO:
- Keyframe:
MUST be <=20 seconds and MUST be inserted according to scene changes and framesizes as determined by the codec or encoding application.
- Group watermarks of any kind on the video will not be tolerated!
- Intermission messages must be removed from the avi!

Framerate:
- MUST be as close to original source framerate as possible.
- In some cases PAL movies should be ivtc’d (i.e. to 24fps). Therefore using a PAL source is not an excuse for lack of ivtc.

Codec:
- MUST BE XviD (all DivX codecs are banned).
- MUST use 2 pass technique during encoding.
- NO DUPES BASED ON CODEC TYPE, USE INTERNAL!
Resolution and Aspect Ratio:
- Width: 512 – 672 pixels for US movies (Letterboxed is considered US). 448 – 576 pixels for FS movies (Only 4:3 images).
- Height and Width: Must be a multiple of 16.
- Cropping is required to be the MAXIMUM possible (black borders must be cropped to their maximum. Over cropped releases are considered a technical flaw. Some movies present changing ARs, in that case the cropping applies only to the image that presents more pixels (Means that part of the movie will have bad cropping).
- Movie encodes must be within 5% of the original aspect ratio. Calculating AR % error: (Release AR – Original AR)/Original AR x 100

Subs, Interactive Menus, Trailers:
- OPTIONAL (ONLY if all other requirements have been met).
- VOBSUB is the preferred format due to the fact it does not use OCR. However, any format that displays with DVobSub is acceptable.
- Subtitles may be MUXED with video stream, but MAY NOT be BURNED into video stream.

MUXED subs will proper BURNED subs.
- Subtitles not muxed into video stream MUST be encapsulated in a .rar file with the MOST compression available and shall be contained in the directory named ‘Subs’ and will NOT be packaged with main movie cars.
- Burned subtitles shall only be permissible when the source exhibits aforementioned subtitles in the picture itself (i.e. Subs in the matte portion of the picture MUST be typed in a separate file and the frame shall be cropped). If there is a part of the burned subtitles on the picture itself, and another part on the matte portion of the picture, the frame must be cropped to 2 pixels from the start of the subtitles on the matte portion. Upside cropping of the picture has nothing to do with the downside, therefore the cropping on the upside MUST BE to it’s maximum.
- English subs on non English movies MUST fit on CD with main movie, all other optional subs SHOULD fit on the CD.
- Foreign movies (Non English Spoken) with no English subs, must have the language name taggings (applies to the various non English scenes). Movies with English subs present, WILL NOT HAVE any language tag on them!
- Using of hand made subs on non English releases (i.e. fansubs) MUST be mentioned in the nfo, and at nuker’s discretion if to nuke the release for Bad.Subs, depends on how bad the subtitles are. Please use common judgement! Releases that were nuked for bad subtitles, may be propered only by subtitles that came from the retail DVD (Ripper’s choice if to release the full movie again or just the subtitles).
- Multi-language subtitles cannot be used as a basis for a dupe.

Packaging:
- All releases must be AVI, not BIN/CUE.
- Must be packed with FAR and broken into 15 or 20 MB volumes.
Releases that are more then 1 CD must have the FAR files broken into 2 or more CD volumes.
- Compression is not allowed.
- Recovery and MD5 record are recomended.
- Must have SFV included for each CD.
- Must have NFO.
- NFO SHOULD INCLUDE:

Group name
Title
Actual XviD release date
DVD release date
Theatrical release date (US preferably) Video size
Framesize/Aspect Ratio
Audio bitrate
Video bitrate
Movie runtime/Length
INDB/Amazon/Any other DVD site info link NwW)er of rars per CD (i.e. 50×15MB) Ripping method
DRF average

Credits:
- Movie credits can be encoded separately at time a lower bitrate only if the .e. length exceeds the no. of CDs used (i source, 106 min on 1CD for FILM etc). or 201 min on 2CDs for PAL source, bloopers or continuation
- Any movies with scenes in the credits (i.e of story) MAY NOT be downsampled!
- Cutting Credits is not allowed.

Samples:
- REQUIRED!
- 1 full minute in length and in a separate folder marked as ‘Sample’.
- MUST be taken from the movie – NOT encoded separately.
- Vob samples are recounended for any rip that is deemed questionable: i.e. no ivtc possible on source, ivtc to 24.9VSfps etc.

Propers:
- Propers are ONLY permitted in the case of a technical flaw in the original release (i.e. Bad IVTC, Interlacing, bad nwuber of CDs).
- Releases not nuked on release lists and/or sites MUST include original sample of the technical flaw.
- Qualitative propers are not allowed, nor are propers based on decisions made by a ripper (i.e. No. of CDs, AC3 or MP3, etc).
- Propers based upon the compliance with new instances of TXD2K5 guidelines are also forbidden.
Only propers acceptable when propering old tdx rips are propers based on picture damage: Aspect Ratio, IVTC, Over-Cropping. Other propers acceptable are propers based on releases that did not follow previous tdx guidelines, at the time they were released.
- Subbed (in original movie language) propers dubbed (in any language).
- Hardcored Subs may be propered by releases containing Vobsub/Srt.

US vs. FS:
- FS movies after US was out, are FORBIDDEN unless proven it contains more picture (use of sample or .jpg as proof).
- US movies after FS was out, MUST HAVE original sample from the previous release, unless proven no US DVD was out at the time the FS was released. A US not following the above is considered a DUPE!
- US or FS name tags on the release name, if the other wasn’t released in the past, WILL NOT BE TOLERATED! .
- WS cannot proper another WS: for example 2.35:1 after 1.85:1 is out. Use the tag WS in the dirname instead. However WS after a wider WS was released, will be considered a DUPE unless proven it contains more picture! Sample rule applies here also.
- Letterboxed DVDs are not considered FS even if it’s FS on the source!

Special Movie Editions:
- Allowed: SE, DC, EXTENDED, UNCUT, REMASTERED, UNRATED, THEATRICAL, CHRONO.
- Special Edition releases without any different features in the film itself will be considered dupes of previous releases of the same movie.
- Shorter cut version of a movie after a longer version was released is allowed (i.e. THEATRICAL), and MUST be mentioned in the dirname.
- Remastered movies after the original have been released are allowed only if the original release was in BLACK .P.ND WHITE and the remastered edition is colour. Everything else use INTERNAL! (Remastered DVD releases that were nuked in the past and were colour after black and white, shall not be unnuked and shall not be duped!)
- Remastered audio will be considered a dupe if it’s the only reason movie was re-released.
- Extras released in a special movie edition, cannot be used as a basis for a dupe, unless released separately .
- Homemade Rips are not allowed (Use INTERNAL!). For example adding of deleted scenes, alternate endings, chrono editions. Only retail DVD rips of this versions are allowed.
- NOTE: PAL – NTSC length difference comes from the no. of frames, not extra footage.

Directory Naming:
- All releases are to include production year (applies to the pre scene as well).
- DO NOT indicate Ripping method, DVD/XviD release date, Genre, Audio which was used (no AC3) or anything else! (ONLY WITHIN THE NFO)
- Movie distribution tags i.e. FESTIVAL, STV, LIMITED or TV (TV tag is used for TV movies only) are allowed and shall be used wisely and correctly.
- READ.NFO is strictly forbidden.
- Other permitted tags are: WS/FS , PROPER, REPACK, RERIP, REAL, RETAIL, EXTENDED, REMASTERED, UNRATED, CHRONO, THEATRICAL, DC, SE, UNCUT, INTERNAL, DUBBED, SUBBED.
- Acceptable characters in naming a directory include (NO spaces or double dots – single dots or underscores ONLY):
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 0123456789 .-
- Releases that are more than 1 CD MUST be named CD1, CD2, CD3 and so on [’disci’ and others are NOT allowed).

TV Series Notes:
- All Episodes are obligated to follow the above rules.
- Media usage capacity:
* 4x 20-23min = BCD, Releases shall not be over 175mb.
* 3x 23-35min = BCD, Releases shall not be over 233mb).
* 2x 35-50min = 1CD, Releases shall not be over 350mb).
* Episodes further then 50 minutes, will follow the length rules of TXD2K5.
NOTE: Runtimes not mentioned above should fit on 1 CD i.e. 5×120mb, 6×116mb, 7×100mb etc.
- Sizes mentioned above may be used only when minimum runtime is applied, i.e. 23 minutes on 233mb or 35 minutes on 350mb). Media usage is at ripper’s discretion (i.e. 25 minutes may also be on 175mb).
- Recommendation: 26×22min = 1 DVD-R Disc, 13×45min = 1 DVD-R Disc i.e. 172mb x 26eps or 344mb x 13eps fits on 1 burnable DVD-R Disc.
- Exception: 20-23min NTSC episodes (29.97 fps) may use 233mb).

NOTES TO THE RULES
Source related notes:
- DVD source shall be RETAIL/DVD Screener only. Non DVD sources like CAM, TS, TC, VHS, SCREENER, PDVD, LDVD etc, MUST be tagged with source in dirname and MUST adhere to ALL TXD2K5 rules!
- DVD Screeners shall be clearly marked in the directory name and the nfo shall contain presence of studio watermarking and counters or lack thereof.
- Use of downsampled DVD-Rs as source is FORBIDDEN!

Internals:
- All INTERNALS must follow TXD2K5 rules, apart from the time length rules and multi-language audio tracks rule (and will not be considered as dupes). Other codecs and containers are allowed for experimental purposes.
- NOTE: INTERNAL dirfix is not allowed as a basis of avoiding a nuke.

Ripping related notes:
- Maximum VIDEO bitrates are covered by length rules.
- If DRF average would be over 4.0, the resolution should be lowered if possible, until the minimal res is reached. See Resolution rules. DRF average can be checked with DRF Analyzer .
- Quant. Matrix always has to be H.263/MPEG due to lack of hardware support for Custom matrixes.
- Quarterpel/GMC forbidden due to lack of hardware support.
- Packed Bitstream is not supported on some of the major gen chipsets, therefore using it, is not recommended.
- The use of ITU-R is not recommended since it gives an AR error of around 2% from the original

DVD’s Aspect Ratio.
- Multi-language audio tracks are allowed only for INTERNALS. Multiple languages should be interleaved into the AVI, with a graphedit filter for each appropriate audio stream.
- NO intros, outros, betweenos, or any other form of defacement of the movie will be tolerated.
godmode

February 28th, 2008 | 01:32

No Japanese company is going to come after a western internet piracy group. Anime fansubs are already a huge success with little to no chance of prosecution.
datoo

February 28th, 2008 | 01:57

@77

Happiness of the Katakuris
as121

February 28th, 2008 | 02:11

If they want to be taken seriously by “the scene” they need to stay the F**K away from torrents, RS, MU, and all the other “kiddie” methods of distro.

Their best bet for getting started is going to be to find a FTP/FXP board that has members with scene ties (I’m not posting URLs).
Cake Mania 2 Cake Maniac

February 28th, 2008 | 02:18

How come in movies, serial killers know how to confuse the FBI’s computers and make them think their transmission is coming from Japan…no, Ireland…no, Mexico… etc. Is this all another lie from Hollywood? Sigh.

If I was a scene group, I’d call myself JILLBAKESGOODCAKES. Or perhaps just THEBAKER.
hoodlum

February 28th, 2008 | 02:22

release under your own name (using either a seedbox or a hacked uni-server).. when the quality is good and you’ve got access to new silver, the scene will contact you and will give you ssl access to a distro site..
just don’t get involved in groups who’ll pay you for first dip.. they will fuq you up.
if you deliver, they will accept you.
(or go the easy way and just buy a TS some hardware and get your releases up for free)
wh0is

February 28th, 2008 | 02:31

Hire a server, put a decent ftpd on it check scene nfo’s for groups looking for leech/dump/dedicated use and offer it up.

This is how wasy it is to get a foot in the door and why we see busts once every couple of years.
Dorje

February 28th, 2008 | 02:45

@94 MMMMMMmmmmmmmm Caaake!

Hey, why don’t you call yourself jillthemasterbaker. You post pics on the net of yourself masterbaking
ct5s

February 28th, 2008 | 03:04

move to China and you can release
there’s no copyright
RHead

February 28th, 2008 | 03:22

Get into IRC and try to get to know some ppl with the scene. Will take time, but should get you plenty of info.

Ask axxo for his secret while yer at it ^^

Hey anyone know how axxo has so many seeds?
doogie

February 28th, 2008 | 03:29

@92 awesome film haha
tech9374

February 28th, 2008 | 03:32

LMAO @ 16, you rasist bas**rd!
I need a laugh or two

February 28th, 2008 | 03:39

I agree, the ban hammer for #16. Also #21.

I also think Martin should have an ongoing “Legal Threats” section like TPB so we can all share the amusement of reading anti-piracy groups letters to Rlslog.
I need a laugh or two

February 28th, 2008 | 03:44

Okay, #74, #77, and #79 have to go also. Get out the damn ban hammer and hammer these racist idiots off this site.
Dorje

February 28th, 2008 | 03:50

$10 says 101 is 16
Not Stupid

February 28th, 2008 | 05:09

@#10… I don’t think anyone read the link, but I did. MUCH THANX pal! What a gem of a tutorial.
Cata RapidForever

February 28th, 2008 | 07:02

The best and easiest way to upload is through a seed box, you don’t even have to pay for it steel some CC information(for the noobs a CC is a credit card) you’ll find plenty of stupid guys especially in USA, who can be easily tricked, it’s like stealing some cookies from some 2 years old kid). Btw don’t use proxies they DON’R really work, use some socks 5 so you will be untraceble.HAPPY HACKING TO ALL OF YOU!!!!
meh

February 28th, 2008 | 07:08

I have a friend in Nigeria that will help you. Just send him your bank details and he will set the whole thing up.
docwho

February 28th, 2008 | 07:27

hmm, now i understand why all releases are 700mb 1cd or 700 x 2cds…..
BUT CDs ARE LAME!!! who in our days burn cds?
who burn cds, burm in hell!!!
time to move on dvd releases like 800mb, 1600mb, 2000mb… not multiples of 700mb!
CD are dead!! i hope dvds die soon also and bd disc price fall to 1$, but with $%#%@ sony…..
Moshster

February 28th, 2008 | 07:48

Just a thought, but what if the query has come from the likes of the MPAA?
jjbiggle

February 28th, 2008 | 08:43

This has been the most entertaining part of my day.
Lynus

February 28th, 2008 | 08:56

I dont know if Martin changed the email sent to him but the English and the style of writing is way too grammatically and literally correct to be an email form a group trying to get into the scene. I mean – proper nouns are capitalised, punctuation marks are perfect, spellings used are of those as in American English. Not a single mistake to be honest. Looks more like something written by a Lawyer.

It does sound like a dodgy email. My thoughts anyways…