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yes from a perspective of people who have NOTHING to do with US elections, yes. Im sure it will be another Obama jerk off fest
im sure obama must be a limp bizkit by now
“Interesting to see it from a European angle.”
Yeah, watching him is better than Viagra, isn’t it Joshua? Use it while you can* the honeymoon will be over soon enough.
* on your dog
there will be a nuclear war in 2012, guess who’s the master mind behind it….
the mayans?…well the mayans said the world is going to end in 2012….watch out for mayans!!
Yeah and where are the Mayans now … they couldn’t even predict their demise.
I predict the world will end in 60 years … disprove that
@1-3: Please stop whining. No one likes a sore loser.
Speaking Of Viagra is Mccain going to do An Ad like Bob Dole and By The Way The End Of The World, Nostradamus Was Right With The Image Of 1999 except it Was “6661″ Upside Down Prove Me Wrong.
Did any Americans vote for a third party candidate like Chuck Baldwin or Ralph Nader?
Obamas foreign policy advisor Zbignew Brezinski is a psychopath who wants to destroy Russia.
He laid out the plan in his 97 book The Grand Chessboard that he wants Russia split in 3 dismembered and Central Asia islamised so he can control the oil and gas reserves.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/brzezinskigrandchessboard
“In fact, an Islamic revival – already abetted from the outside not only by Iran but also by Saudi Arabia – is likely to become the mobilizing impulse for the increasingly pervasive new nationalisms, determined to oppose any reintegration under Russian – and hence infidel – control.” (p. 133).
“For Pakistan, the primary interest is to gain Geostrategic depth through political influence in Afghanistan – and to deny to Iran the exercise of such influence in Afghanistan and Tajikistan – and to benefit eventually from any pipeline construction linking Central Asia with the Arabian Sea.” (p.139)
And he dosn’t seem to have a problem with China.
“China’s growing economic presence in the region and its political stake in the area’s independence are also congruent with America’s interests.” (p.149)
This guy created Al Queda in 79.
So 2012 your answer is Zbignew Brezinski.
So if you want to read Obamas foreign policy for the next 4 years read The Grand Chessboard.
you all need to do your research
As a European I’m glad Obama won because if he didn’t then we would of got the person “johhn come lately” “Loverboy” and “2012″ wanted in power and that would be very, very, scary!!
A little off topic this but I was wondering if any US voters could tell me if the ballot paper/screen just has a list on canidates on it? Or does it also give you a chance vote on local policy initiatives, eg who runs your state’s schools, do you want a new freeway etc?
I’m British and in our crappy version of democracy the only legally binding thing can vote for is our local town councillor and our member of parliament. Nothing else. Ever. A couple of times a century we’re given a vote in a referendum on stuff like “Do you want the UK to join the European Union” but these are pointless as the government is not legally bound to do what the voters asked them to do.
I’m genuinely interested in finding out as despite the HUGE amount of coverage the US elections got here this sort of stuff was never mentioned.
“chance vote” should read “chance to vote”
Anyone with RS links?
@11
You are given a list of all the running candidates to choose from, and about 12 pages of other amendments and what not to vote for or against.
Many Americans will tell you that voting is just a facade. Many believe some things are already determined and the voting is just there to give face of a ‘democracy’ and lead the people to believe that they have a voice still.
Hoopie
I live in Santa Cruz, Ca, and we voted on all the things you mentioned. you can go to http://www.votescount.com/ to see more info on what we voted on, as well as how we voted on them.
I’m British, and people should know better, all politicians are all the same, always looking out for number one. Obama isn’t going to be any different.
@11
Each state is different. But here is generally what a ballot has on it.
http://www.electronic-vote.org/GIF/ballotusa2004.jpg
Many thanks tbone for your informative answer. It seems your version of the thing called democracy is considerably better than ours.
Whilst it’s possible voting is a façade put on my The Man at least the individual American has a regular opportunity to THINK they have some say on how the system is run. We don’t, and it’s jolly annoying indeed.
Thank you everyone else as well. I’m off to have a look at those web pages you kindly mentioned. Cheers!
@17: My ballot didn’t look anything at all like that. Though mine was on those voting machines….. wait or was that the popcorn machine I pressed the red flashing button
@11
Our ballots all are a bit different. I’ve never voted twice with the same format. But more to the point, you can choose for each of the “major” races, all of us for president, then each district has its own local elections. Beyond that is where your vote really can matter (or you can really screw it up if you’re clueless). For instance there is always some sort of additional tax vote these days for something like a stadium being built or a special road maintenance etc. I voted yesterday to merge our university transit system with our city system. This time there were also a lot of “elections” that only had one choice (or a “write in” candidate) for things like secretary of local knitting club (kidding, but you get the point). I wrote in my dog, because it didn’t make sense to have in election with one name? Also voted to retain or not retain our judges.
Each state and area has its own rules and laws about certain things. I’m a pretty firm believer in State’s rights and I think the more leeway states have on most things, the better the system works, but that’s just my 2 cents. Here’s more of my 2cents, I voted for Obama, but I am already sick of hearing about him. In a country of celebrity idiocy I have a bad feeling where this is heading. For instance this download?
@13: Check the top of the page. I was pleasantly surprised to find them above the comments and right below links to three different torrent sites.
woot…..
Miss America is selected from among 50 candidates but
the most powerful man in the free world is picked from a
list of only two. What’s wrong with this picture?
@16
Wow. You are such a pesimist. Why dont you just kill yourself?…no thats not an insult. im actually asking you…I mean if you have that little faith in people you probably shouldnt be living. I wouldnt be able to. (luckily i HAVE faith in people)
@24
You dumbass. There ARE more than 2 candidates. they just dont campaign enough. And no-one gives a crap about them.
And Miss America is a joke.
@8 I simply love your Brzezinski-angled conspiracy theory… for your information Brzezinski never wanted to destroy any country, but by being an analyst and specialist on the eastern block countries it was always his duty to provide valid scenarios. You really need to read something more than the internet from time to time, maybe you’ll be able to stop putting your foot in your mouth and talking out of your ass.
PS. rlsloggers talking politics, how quaint
@24: Glad to see I’m not the only one left still reading Alfred E. Neuman
“there will be a nuclear war in 2012, guess who’s the master mind behind it….”
The British Olympic committee?
Well, this is for a very long time the first thing most US citizens did right. At least one small sign that the peoples stupidity might be overcome… Go to school, learn, work hard and change the path the USA took for too long.
“a very long time the first thing most US citizens did right”
Thank you sir, may I have another?
#29 Voting for Obama was not right, it was voting left. Voting for someone with out researching and finding what he really stands for – relying on a bias media that buried anything that would put the man child in a bad light is not an educated decisions it is voting on miss guided feelings and emotions.
This guy has very little governing experience. These last two years he was Senator. Most of that time he has been campaigning. When he was in Washington for a vote, he voted present because he could not make a decision. He has never headed a bill for legislation.
Most people can not tell you why they voted for him except Hope and Change. I( don’t see a lot of thinking going on here.
Anyone ever seen a n1gga hold a job for more than 4 months let alone 4 years? (laundry room duties in the state pen dont count)
@31 I agree completely most people I know voted osama bin ladin… oops I mean obama lidin because we need a brother in our white house or because we need change but when you ask what change they have no answer and when you ask what kind of brother it is only in race not a brother American or a man who can help change our economic problems or our problems overseas. As far as media goes I had heard many things about Osama (obama) before he started running for president about how he had hoped his Muslim brothers were victorious against the invaders in the region (e.g… AMERICANS) wait though isn’t he Christian?… and while we’re on that as a man of different ethnicities I believe all man should be equal I have never or would never used the “special” grants and scholarships available to me because I was raised to believe all men were created equal and yet I have also read about obamas speeches from when he was a lawyer that people of a race that I share should be given money for what happened hundreds of years ago. (Not to mention a black separatist church he belongs to… not confirmed through a lot of research yet just followed links and saw a news clip from after election on this site)Basically what I am saying is though there may have been allot of misdirection in this campaign the majority of the voters (that I know at least) voted blindly for reasons that are ridiculous and may have serious repercussions on this country
o and btw if anybody actually followed the popular vote e.g. the actual vote that our people voted they were running pretty close its the electoral vote that really decides it so yeah our votes really don’t count for anything as McCain was about 4% behind when he conceded and the electoral vote he was losing a 3-1 vote as in he should have been trailing by about 50% our country has the ability to keep track of popular vote nowadays but doesn’t anybody but me wonder why
Obama seems like an intelligent guy, you can tell by the way he speaks. I’m sure he will surround himself with very competent staff so i wouldn’t worry about lack of experience. After having Bush for 8 years how can you complain at all? McCain seems to be a good American but i dont think he’s president material.
Holy F U CK!!! How can any one vote for someone you know nothing about?? Here is a piece of 2 transcripts, one w/Tom Brokaw and Charlie Rose, 2 liberal dumb-as ses that helped get someone elected for NO REASON, and Charlie Rose w/2 editors Evan Thomas and Jon Meacham for NEWSWEEK.
ROSE: I don’t know what Barack Obama’s worldview is.
BROKAW: No, I don’t either.
ROSE: I don’t know how he really sees where China is.
BROKAW: We don’t know a lot about Barack Obama and the universe of his thinking about foreign policy.
ROSE: I don’t really know. And do we know anything about the people who are advising him?
BROKAW: You know that’s an interesting question.
ROSE: He is principally known through his autobiography and through very aspirational (sic) speeches, two of them.
BROKAW: I don’t know what books he’s read.
ROSE: What do we know about the heroes of Barack Obama?
BROKAW: There’s a lot about him we don’t know.
MEACHAM: He’s very elusive, Obama, which is fascinating for a man who’s written two memoirs. At Grant Park he walks out with the family, and then they go away.
ROSE: Mmm. Mmm-hmm.
MEACHAM: Biden’s back, you know, locked in the bar or something.
ROSE: (haughty chuckle)
MEACHAM: You know, they don’t let him out. And have you ever seen a victory speech where there was no one else on stage?
ROSE: Mmm.
MEACHAM: No adoring wife, no cute kid. He is the messenger.
THOMAS: There is a slightly creepy cult of personality about all this. I mean, he’s such an admirable –
ROSE: Slightly. Creepy. Cult of personality.
THOMAS: Yes.
ROSE: What’s slightly creepy about it?
THOMAS: It — it — it just makes me a little uneasy that he’s so singular. He’s clearly managing his own spectacle. He’s a deeply manipulative guy.
ROSE: Watching him last night in that speech, he finishes –
MEACHAM: Yeah.
ROSE: — and he sort of — it’s almost like he then ascends to look at the circumstance.
MEACHAM: He watches us watching him.
THOMAS: Watching him!
ROSE: Exactly!
THOMAS: He does –
MEACHAM: It’s amazing.
ROSE: It is amazing.
THOMAS: He writes about this metaphor being a screen upon which Americans will project. He said they want of Barack Obama; I’m not sure I am Barack Obama.
ROSE: Mmm!
THOMAS: He had — he has the self-awareness to know that this creature he’s designed isn’t necessarily a real person, and he’s self-aware enough –
ROSE: Ahhhhhh!
If this wasn’t so crazy and unbeleivable, it would be funny. To listen to these elitists now after the election describe their total lack of understanding of who Obama is, yet they do understand things about him that are NOT GOOD. He’s manipulative. He ascends after a speech to watch everybody watching him. He watches us watch him. He’s “slightly creepy,” and he has “the self-awareness to know that this creature he’s designed isn’t necessarily a real person”! What they’re saying about Obama, this is FEAR. Now, this confirms for all of us that they are irresponsible in doing their jobs. They know all this, they have these fears beforehand, they viewed it as their job to get Obama elected, burying what they feared, burying what they know. Look at all they hid. Look at all that they refused to report. They had plenty of chances to write editorials at Newsweek magazine, and they didn’t write one reflective of what they really saw and know and fear about Obama I heard some of the same IDOLATRY over Obama on BBCA, so the idiot train finds its way through the world, I see!! What a great America we have become, letting far left liberal idiots, liars, and buffoons run our media and electing them into ANY position of power. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Ben Franklin, they must all look at this country overrun with liberal SH I T that they fought against and feel like the DEVIL is F U CK ING them in the AS S!!!!
@36
You know nothing about Obama!
Bush knows nothing!
At least Obama got a passport so Ive heard!
It’s funny how the morons are so angry that Obama won. Booohoo! You didn’t get your third Bush term. McCain would have made everything all better? Yah right, and John McCain can keep a plane in the air. Well too bad. You lost so get over it, ya cry babies.
I can’t believe there are so many Bush lovers. He’s a moron. He’s ruined everything and you still love him. Sounds like your as dumb as he is.
@38 RU
Amen brother, amen.