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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some comments and advice...

Newsgroups are good because downloads from them are virtually untraceable. Sure, it could be done, but the companies who provide newsgroup access aren&#039;t in the business of selling out their customers. The only other way would be if the RIAA/MPAA got a court order to look at the logs and with dozens if not hundreds of Usenet providers, they&#039;d have quite a job on their hands. They also allow you to directly communicate with the uploader of a file, request help, ask questions, make requests, etc.

No, newsgroups aren&#039;t as easy to use as P2P networks, but they&#039;re not THAT difficult when you understand how they work.  First, you need to understand that newsgroups were never meant to carry files and doing so is basically a kludge. The files are encoded to something the newsgroups will accept, then decoded on the other end. If this wasn&#039;t done, the files would be mangled by the posting process. Most servers have a limit to the size of each individual post, so all posting software will split the files up into smaller parts, which are then re-assembled by the downloader. In any modern program, this happens automatically, so you only need to worry about files and not separate parts.

Large files are split into smaller files, usually with Rar, to make them easier to work with. Otherwise your newsreader would need to decode 1,400+ parts for a 700MB file. By downloading 48-50 Rar files, it makes it much easier to handle. The Rar files are then unpacked to get the original file. Of course, some parts may go missing since Usenet is made up of a serious of separate servers that talk to each other and TRY to pass along everything. This is where Par2 files come in. They can replace missing or bad parts of a file, provided that the poster included enough Par2 blocks. If not, a polite request for additional blocks is often honored.

As for finding all the individual parts, many modern programs have the option to group files together based on the subject line so that each post appears as a single line in the list. If not, you can always use a search site like Binsearch. They usually, but not always, group all the files of a post together as a collection. Or you&#039;ll see 2-3 collections from the same auther, one has the Rar files, one has the Par2 files, one has the subs, etc. You just tag the ones you want, create an NZB file, load it into your program of choice and it downloads whatever you&#039;ve selected from whatever server you entered the logon details for.

Newsreaders can typically be divided into two types; Text oriented and binary downloaders. Most do a little of both, but generally a program will specialize in one or the other. I like Agent for reading the text groups and browsing binary ones, and Binary News Reaper 2 for downloading with NZB files. Actually, I should say that I like BNR2&#039;s features, the program itself is buggy and sometimes just stops working.

Many first time usenet users are tempted to use Outlook Express since they already have it on their system. People with Vista may have Windows Mail or Windows Mail Live. DON&#039;T! You might think &quot;I&#039;ll just use it to take a look at what the newsgroups have to offer.&quot; DON&#039;T! Despite what MS might claim, these programs are not newsreaders. They have never been newsreaders. They will never be newsreaders. They are email programs that were kludged to work with newsgroups. They have so many limitations compared to modern newsreaders, especially for binary downloading, that they&#039;re like using a pencil and paper compared to a word processor. If you use them to go on the newsgroups, you will be met with derision by most other users because almost all the problems you will experience will be caused by their lack of features.

Also, occasionally in the newsgroups, you might see people complaining about the use of an encoding method known as &quot;yEnc&quot;. Despite it having been in use for years now and working quite well, there are still a few hard-core fanatics who will claim that it doesn&#039;t work properly, that it carries spyware/viruses, that it will kill your dog, etc. Ignore these idiots. I try not to be judgemental, but these people are idiots who ignore established facts and cling to outdated programs that haven&#039;t been updated in years. Thankfully, they seem to be just about extinct now.

Read the Slyck guide linked to by a couple users above. It has more detailed explanations, comparison of newsreaders and news providers and links to all the software you need.</description>
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<p>Newsgroups are good because downloads from them are virtually untraceable. Sure, it could be done, but the companies who provide newsgroup access aren&#8217;t in the business of selling out their customers. The only other way would be if the RIAA/MPAA got a court order to look at the logs and with dozens if not hundreds of Usenet providers, they&#8217;d have quite a job on their hands. They also allow you to directly communicate with the uploader of a file, request help, ask questions, make requests, etc.</p>
<p>No, newsgroups aren&#8217;t as easy to use as P2P networks, but they&#8217;re not THAT difficult when you understand how they work.  First, you need to understand that newsgroups were never meant to carry files and doing so is basically a kludge. The files are encoded to something the newsgroups will accept, then decoded on the other end. If this wasn&#8217;t done, the files would be mangled by the posting process. Most servers have a limit to the size of each individual post, so all posting software will split the files up into smaller parts, which are then re-assembled by the downloader. In any modern program, this happens automatically, so you only need to worry about files and not separate parts.</p>
<p>Large files are split into smaller files, usually with Rar, to make them easier to work with. Otherwise your newsreader would need to decode 1,400+ parts for a 700MB file. By downloading 48-50 Rar files, it makes it much easier to handle. The Rar files are then unpacked to get the original file. Of course, some parts may go missing since Usenet is made up of a serious of separate servers that talk to each other and TRY to pass along everything. This is where Par2 files come in. They can replace missing or bad parts of a file, provided that the poster included enough Par2 blocks. If not, a polite request for additional blocks is often honored.</p>
<p>As for finding all the individual parts, many modern programs have the option to group files together based on the subject line so that each post appears as a single line in the list. If not, you can always use a search site like Binsearch. They usually, but not always, group all the files of a post together as a collection. Or you&#8217;ll see 2-3 collections from the same auther, one has the Rar files, one has the Par2 files, one has the subs, etc. You just tag the ones you want, create an NZB file, load it into your program of choice and it downloads whatever you&#8217;ve selected from whatever server you entered the logon details for.</p>
<p>Newsreaders can typically be divided into two types; Text oriented and binary downloaders. Most do a little of both, but generally a program will specialize in one or the other. I like Agent for reading the text groups and browsing binary ones, and Binary News Reaper 2 for downloading with NZB files. Actually, I should say that I like BNR2&#8217;s features, the program itself is buggy and sometimes just stops working.</p>
<p>Many first time usenet users are tempted to use Outlook Express since they already have it on their system. People with Vista may have Windows Mail or Windows Mail Live. DON&#8217;T! You might think &#8220;I&#8217;ll just use it to take a look at what the newsgroups have to offer.&#8221; DON&#8217;T! Despite what MS might claim, these programs are not newsreaders. They have never been newsreaders. They will never be newsreaders. They are email programs that were kludged to work with newsgroups. They have so many limitations compared to modern newsreaders, especially for binary downloading, that they&#8217;re like using a pencil and paper compared to a word processor. If you use them to go on the newsgroups, you will be met with derision by most other users because almost all the problems you will experience will be caused by their lack of features.</p>
<p>Also, occasionally in the newsgroups, you might see people complaining about the use of an encoding method known as &#8220;yEnc&#8221;. Despite it having been in use for years now and working quite well, there are still a few hard-core fanatics who will claim that it doesn&#8217;t work properly, that it carries spyware/viruses, that it will kill your dog, etc. Ignore these idiots. I try not to be judgemental, but these people are idiots who ignore established facts and cling to outdated programs that haven&#8217;t been updated in years. Thankfully, they seem to be just about extinct now.</p>
<p>Read the Slyck guide linked to by a couple users above. It has more detailed explanations, comparison of newsreaders and news providers and links to all the software you need.</p>
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		<title>By: John Doe</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mike rodot, another good guide I used is http://www.slyck.com/ng.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mike rodot, another good guide I used is <a href="http://www.slyck.com/ng.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.slyck.com/ng.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Doe</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@45

I used to think like that, but it&#039;s so much easier with usenet. I just buy a block account from usenet-news.net where you get 300GB for $66, no time limit on it, bought it last year will last me a good few more months aswel
.
No worrying about ratios like I did with torrents, (public trackers too slow to use) and now downloading maxes out my connection. Works out at 22 cents per gigabyte, which is nothing if you have a job.

And btw AltBinz is the best newsreader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@45</p>
<p>I used to think like that, but it&#8217;s so much easier with usenet. I just buy a block account from usenet-news.net where you get 300GB for $66, no time limit on it, bought it last year will last me a good few more months aswel<br />
.<br />
No worrying about ratios like I did with torrents, (public trackers too slow to use) and now downloading maxes out my connection. Works out at 22 cents per gigabyte, which is nothing if you have a job.</p>
<p>And btw AltBinz is the best newsreader.</p>
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		<title>By: mike rodot</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike rodot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@love2help

Many thanks!  I am reading through it now.</description>
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<p>Many thanks!  I am reading through it now.</p>
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		<title>By: mike rodot</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/newsman-pro-v2706-retail-te/comment-page-1/#comment-215357</link>
		<dc:creator>mike rodot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@love2help</description>
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		<title>By: Spanky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spanky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIAA and MPAA can&#039;t touch it because it&#039;s the backbone of the internet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIAA and MPAA can&#8217;t touch it because it&#8217;s the backbone of the internet</p>
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		<title>By: love2help</title>
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		<dc:creator>love2help</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Spanky and @mike rodot
A tutorial for you
http://www.binaries4all.com/beginners/

How is that company&#039;s with newsservers farms can sell illegal stuff, and not be sued?
While torrent site who just post links are threatened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Spanky and @mike rodot<br />
A tutorial for you<br />
<a href="http://www.binaries4all.com/beginners/" rel="nofollow">http://www.binaries4all.com/beginners/</a></p>
<p>How is that company&#8217;s with newsservers farms can sell illegal stuff, and not be sued?<br />
While torrent site who just post links are threatened.</p>
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		<title>By: mupet0000</title>
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		<dc:creator>mupet0000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried it and hated it. Alt.Binz is the BEST out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried it and hated it. Alt.Binz is the BEST out there.</p>
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		<title>By: SaTaN</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaTaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grabit + www.maximumusenet.com = the win for me
grabit is a nice and easy program to dl and max has great speeds and its only like 12 bucks for unlimited
I get 500kb easy takes me no time to dl movies or games.
usenet is faster and so easy. use a search like newzleech.com and bam you got the file. if a file is corrupt you use the .par files and it fixes them. much easier then re-dling the file from somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grabit + <a href="http://www.maximumusenet.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.maximumusenet.com</a> = the win for me<br />
grabit is a nice and easy program to dl and max has great speeds and its only like 12 bucks for unlimited<br />
I get 500kb easy takes me no time to dl movies or games.<br />
usenet is faster and so easy. use a search like newzleech.com and bam you got the file. if a file is corrupt you use the .par files and it fixes them. much easier then re-dling the file from somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: mike rodot</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike rodot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to find Usenet instructions that make any sense.  It seems that you have to manually hunt down each and every one of the possibly thousands of pieces to get a complete file, and the pieces may have different formats within the same file.  I&#039;ve read several FAQs, but the whole process seems way complicated compared to BT. I just subscribed to Agent and Newsguy, but they&#039;re both confusing; it&#039;s easy to read postings, but putting together complete files is another story.  If anyone has a link to instructions that may be easier for an oldtime BT user, I&#039;d really appreciate it.   Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to find Usenet instructions that make any sense.  It seems that you have to manually hunt down each and every one of the possibly thousands of pieces to get a complete file, and the pieces may have different formats within the same file.  I&#8217;ve read several FAQs, but the whole process seems way complicated compared to BT. I just subscribed to Agent and Newsguy, but they&#8217;re both confusing; it&#8217;s easy to read postings, but putting together complete files is another story.  If anyone has a link to instructions that may be easier for an oldtime BT user, I&#8217;d really appreciate it.   Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: darran</title>
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		<dc:creator>darran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i use newsbin pro, is it better than that?
easynews $10 for 10gb is the service i use, mainly for the search, then i use my isp&#039;s newsgroups (virgin uk) to get most the stuff. if ur isp provides a.b.movies.divx and a.b.warez.ibm-pc.0-day ur sorted.
don&#039;t get me wrong private trackers are great too, newsgroups don&#039;t always have the niche stuff u need, but if ur isp provides binaries use it!!
daz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i use newsbin pro, is it better than that?<br />
easynews $10 for 10gb is the service i use, mainly for the search, then i use my isp&#8217;s newsgroups (virgin uk) to get most the stuff. if ur isp provides a.b.movies.divx and a.b.warez.ibm-pc.0-day ur sorted.<br />
don&#8217;t get me wrong private trackers are great too, newsgroups don&#8217;t always have the niche stuff u need, but if ur isp provides binaries use it!!<br />
daz</p>
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		<title>By: JIMK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JIMK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you mean the others require you to search manually. Isn&#039;t that the same method to search through newsleecher&#039;s supersearch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you mean the others require you to search manually. Isn&#8217;t that the same method to search through newsleecher&#8217;s supersearch.</p>
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		<title>By: your name here</title>
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		<dc:creator>your name here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.news.astraweb.com/ 120 days and growing 39 for 3 months no limits 20 connections it rocks!

http://www.iusenet.com hant tried yet but 10 a month unlimited 110 days connections ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.news.astraweb.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.astraweb.com/</a> 120 days and growing 39 for 3 months no limits 20 connections it rocks!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iusenet.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.iusenet.com</a> hant tried yet but 10 a month unlimited 110 days connections ?</p>
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		<title>By: XL</title>
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		<dc:creator>XL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nzbomatic is ok for free :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nzbomatic is ok for free <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Newsman Pro comes with the Advantage Database Server (ADS) as the built-in database engine. This engine functions quite well for text newsgroups and smaller binary groups. It is NOT designed to handle the large volumes of data that would be processed in a binary newsgroup such as alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 or groups that are even larger. If you want to use Newsman Pro as a binary downloader, we highly recommend that you download MySQL or use Microsoft© SQL Server. MySQL is available using the links at the top of this page, while Microsoft© SQL Server is available directly from Microsoft. When processing headers, MySQL and SQL Server are approximately 1000 times faster than ADS. They are also about 3 times faster for other general purposes such as browsing messages and downloading articles.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Newsman Pro comes with the Advantage Database Server (ADS) as the built-in database engine. This engine functions quite well for text newsgroups and smaller binary groups. It is NOT designed to handle the large volumes of data that would be processed in a binary newsgroup such as alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 or groups that are even larger. If you want to use Newsman Pro as a binary downloader, we highly recommend that you download MySQL or use Microsoft© SQL Server. MySQL is available using the links at the top of this page, while Microsoft© SQL Server is available directly from Microsoft. When processing headers, MySQL and SQL Server are approximately 1000 times faster than ADS. They are also about 3 times faster for other general purposes such as browsing messages and downloading articles.&#8221;</p>
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