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New Vista update sniffs for pirated copies

As it promised, Microsoft Corp. yesterday started sending Windows Vista users an update that identifies illegal copies of the operating system installed with cracks that the company will disable when it distributes Service Pack 1 (SP1) in two weeks. Last Thursday, Microsoft announced the update, which detects two common cracks used to activate pirated copies of Vista, and said it would hit Windows Update (WU) within a week. Users who have left Vista’s recommended WU settings alone will receive the update automatically. Others, said Microsoft, must enable Automatic Update within Vista or manually call up WU from the Start menu.

A document posted to the company’s support site spelled out the details. Among other things, it promised that the 3MB update “does not affect the functionality of your operating system.” That jibes with what Alex Kochis, senior product manager for Microsoft’s Windows Genuine Advantage program, said last week when he announced the update. If the update finds one of the cracks, a notice pops up alerting the user, but it doesn’t disable either crack. The first, dubbed “Grace Timer,” extends Vista’s activation grace period, while the other, “OEM BIOS,” mimics factory-floor activation. Users whose PCs don’t have the cracks will not see the pop-up. Ouch, dark times for all Vista pirates! I’m sure there will be workaround pretty soon though…

Source: Computerworld

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  1. Choakem
    February 28th, 2008 | 18:53

    Vista still sucks anyway! :P

  2. arf
    February 28th, 2008 | 18:57

    dont see why people bother will illegal versions of window xp and vista…just causes problems with microsoft constantly tryin to release anti-piracy updates.
    theres plenty of simple way to get legit copies of XP and Vista for free!!

  3. DukeNuke
    February 28th, 2008 | 18:57

    **turns automatic updates off**

  4. gilmour
    February 28th, 2008 | 18:59

    The workaround is don’t be dumb enough to have Windows Update set to Auto in the first place and then don’t manually install it when it appears in your update list, just set it to be hidden so it doesn’t appear any more.

  5. richard
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:00

    watch out for Update for Windows Vista (KB940510

  6. Swaggie
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:02

    yep I have a 3mb update sitting waiting for me to press the install now button the serial for this fix is (KB940510)

    I think I’ll hold off pressing the install button for now..

    one thing I would liek to know, is that I have already installed teh SP1, a couple of weeks ago, when the actual released to manufacturers release came out.. wonder what it will do to that ?

  7. Hahaha
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:04

    ONE more reason not to install Vista

  8. jah booty
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:04

    go to a college pay a kid $10 and have him give his copy to you. he can then go back to the campus store and buy it again for $5. that’s why i have had legit xp forever. i actually own a oem xp from before any service packs were released but i got the student professional just b/c it has sp2. i know i could of done it myself through nlite but why bother when a some kid makes out well and i dont have to go through nlite and do all this unecessary crap and microsoft made $5.

  9. C2007
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:04

    Don’t care. Never gonna run Vista crap anyway.

  10. boris22os
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:05

    richard, watch out for vista in general :D xp + sp3 when it arrives = great

  11. dragoshell
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:06

    who wants more of vista anyway? :)

  12. john
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:07

    tell me what is the problem with vista? i haven’t had not one problem yet so far. so it is a good os to get. i haven’t had not one problem so far with vista. so what are the common problems for vista?

  13. jewboy666
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:10

    it doesn’t allow me to hide that update

  14. ePlus
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:10

    Microsoft.Windows.XP.Professional.Corporate.SP2.Integrated.February.2008-ETH0

  15. Venomhed
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:11

    Or you fools could do this rather obscure Windows XP Pro reg hack. Copy the following reg lines, save them as whatever name you want.reg. So XPLegit.reg

    ANY version of XP Pro, SP0-2, will work. No more sutpid WGA cracks and hacks. This works and MS will never stop it because it is so obscure. SP3 is around the corner, and they have never mentioned anything about this.

    And, you’re ALL welcome!

    ************************************************************

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WPAEvents]
    “OOBETimer”=hex:ff,d5,71,d6,8b,6a,8d,6f,d5,33,93,fd
    “LastWPAEventLogged”=hex:d5,07,05,00,06,00,07,00,0f,00,38,00,24,00,fd,02

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
    “SubVersionNumber”=”"
    “CurrentBuild”=”1.511.1 () (Obsolete data – do not use)”
    “InstallDate”=dword:449ffae8
    “ProductName”=”Microsoft Windows XP”
    “RegDone”=”"
    “RegisteredOrganization”=”"
    “RegisteredOwner”=”*”
    “SoftwareType”=”SYSTEM”
    “CurrentVersion”=”5.1″
    “CurrentBuildNumber”=”2600″
    “BuildLab”=”2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519″
    “CurrentType”=”Uniprocessor Free”
    “CSDVersion”=”Service Pack 2″
    “SystemRoot”=”C:\\WINDOWS”
    “SourcePath”=”J:\\I386″
    “PathName”=”C:\\WINDOWS”
    “ProductId”=”55274-640-8365391-23423″
    “DigitalProductId”=hex:a4,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,35,35,32,37,34,2d,36,34,30,2d,\
    38,33,36,35,33,39,31,2d,32,33,34,32,33,00,2e,00,00,00,41,32,32,2d,30,30,30,\
    30,31,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,76,c7,64,cc,82,46,03,68,eb,53,4a,11,a5,85,03,00,\
    00,00,00,00,2d,da,51,45,4a,e5,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
    00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,31,37,37,30,36,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,35,0e,\
    00,00,6e,d6,14,2c,00,04,00,00,89,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
    00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,52,e8,c3,90
    “LicenseInfo”=hex:33,8f,a0,0e,09,ea,dd,48,c3,a6,83,c4,e5,ed,f7,3e,e2,9e,13,ab,\
    c2,79,2d,4c,f9,f9,8b,d4,b3,b9,33,06,4b,88,48,58,c7,d7,d3,60,f0,61,55,f3,ae,\
    0e,07,c2,d7,27,28,3b,f4,de,64,88

    ***************************************8

  16. Code Monkey
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:12

    I use the Dell copy of Vista Ultimate that has been floating around for a year now. Installed the SP1 that #6 is talking about a few weeks ago and just checked, I got update KB940510 yesterday afternoon and my Vista is still activated “genuine”. No problems here. :)

  17. but what if
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:13

    i saw this update on my sp1-rtm vista windows update page… so i simply used the “hide update” option so it wont pop-up in the system tray saying that there is new update all the time, look like everything is still working as it supposed to. but you never know if it’s gonna last forever until MS will release sp1 for the general public.

  18. GiGi.
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:13

    There is no problem with Vista, people always have to bash something and if there is nothing to bash about they will find something anyway.

  19. vypez
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:14

    i love vista much more effectic plus im runnin 4 gb ram so its all kriss

  20. Venomhed
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:15

    BTW – On my XP reg comment, do NOT copy the asterisks, just everything in between.

  21. Zonoz
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:16

    Yeah does anyone know if one were to use system restore… will it get rid of the update??

  22. Code Monkey
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:17

    I remember when XP first came out and it was just as hated as Vista. Personally, I don’t get into whiny fanboy flame wars about which OS is better. And that’s all it is. Vista has never give me any problems at all with any game or software that I use. As long as you have a decent box it works just fine. I won’t touch XP Pro again after switching.

  23. MrJack
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:26

    @22 Code Monkey

    Well said.

  24. big sexy
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:29

    vista sucks anyway

  25. bob marley
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:31

    vista sucks donkey balls

  26. james
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:32

    This is excellent gift from Microsoft to Linux. Transition to Linux has been going on pretty well and this will speed up the process.

    Thumb up for M$! :P

  27. you are all lame
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:32

    So? how about just ignoring the update “do not show this update again” yadayada.

    And besides, it does not forcefully remove any detected cracks.

    So, why even bother to make such noise about this?

    That’s just lame.

  28. Luke
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:34

    Ah Vista bashers, the next generation of XP bashers. It has come full circle once again.

  29. Bob
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:35

    Everybody always hates the new OS, it’s happened with every new release. Vista isn’t bad it is just annoying.

  30. funkykid
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:35

    yous on here that are praising vista do yous actually game with? cause it sucks for gaming uses up all your resources

  31. intuition
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:36

    I’ve never actually heard a good argument for why vista sucks. Just seems to be people following the herd like sheep.

  32. Venomhed
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:37

    Just because i happen to be homosexual, doesn’t mean i can’t post my exported registry settings with absolute paths (LOL)!

  33. Solution
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:38

    Why doesn’t someone just completely remove all the anti-piracy measures in Windows? I mean all the crap like WGA, activation and validation… and then remove the code that physically ties the software with the hardware, so Windows can be used on USB, eSATA,1394, CD/DVD, just as simple as Linux? And don’t forget to replace them Microsoft certificates that time out, while your at it! I bet most of you didn’t know about that, did you?

    Look in your certificate manager under trusted authorities. Then ask yourself when did you give permission for all these certificate that allow of deny your software, connections and even SSL websites. This just means, Microsoft made the choices for you, without your consent.

    It only takes one version, and everyone can bypass all this crap for good. And while we at this, make this open source code, so everyone can improve it! Yeah!

  34. BiG-ArFI
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:39

    Humm, I don’t see that update on my windows update page, and I have the dell oem version installed with the sp1 rtm installed also. I tried to check in windows update and it doesn’t come up for me to download, not that I want it to. Hopefully this is not a big deal.

  35. M
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:39

    coulda used this news a little earlier….

  36. BollyUser
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:40

    Here are the screenshots to know how this update works:
    http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17209

  37. Solution
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:41

    Why doesn’t someone just completely remove all the anti-piracy measures in Windows? I mean all the crap like WGA, activation and validation… and then remove the code that physically ties the software with the hardware, so Windows can be used on USB, eSATA,1394, CD/DVD, just as simple as Linux? And don’t forget to replace them Microsoft certificates that time out, while your at it! I bet most of you didn’t know about that, did you?

    Look in your certificate manager under trusted authorities. Then ask yourself when did you give permission for all these certificate that allow of deny your software, connections and even SSL websites. This just means, Microsoft made the choices for you, without your consent.

    And while we at this, make this open source code, so everyone can improve it! Yeah!

  38. Albert
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:46

    I game (Crysis, Steam games, Company of Heroes, Universe at War, etc) with my vista and I have no problems whatsoever. It’s hard to use XP after using Vista for awhile now. I have a legit version of Vista Ultimate so I am not worried about this update. I will admit that when Vista first came out it was garbage but they have made a lot of improvements since then so there isn’t any real reasons to bash it anymore.

  39. Andrew
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:50

    woohoo I still have a legit vista lol

  40. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:52

    Yesterday, without knowing, i let Update for Windows Vista (KB940510)automatically installed in my PC. I have this upgrade installed: Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Ultimate.OEM.32Bit.June.2007-ETH0 I also have this installed: Microsoft.Windows.Vista.SP1.Update.32Bit.RTM.Build.6001.18000.Read.NFO-nDn

    I dont understand because nothing happen, I didn’t get any warning or pop up notice of any crack. I imagine that since I allready have SP1 RTM installed, the other SP1 version that Windows is releasing next week, cant get installed in my PC.

    What you guys think? Give your opinion.

  41. :D
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:53

    screw cracks… get ur bios modded :D

    http://forums.mydigitallife.info/showthread.php?t=814

  42. Name
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:53

    Can’t update my vista for months ehh guess I don’t have to worry about it now. LOL

  43. kinghajj
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:53

    Vista doesn’t have problems? Lucky you. For the rest of us, Vista sucks. The biggest case in point is that the file deletion dialog can stay up seemingly FOREVER, even after the file has actually been deleted, at “0%” done.

    Secondly, the 64-bit version is only available in the expensive “Ultimate” edition. Not a big deal if you pirate, but it definitely hampers adaptation of 64-bit technology.

    There are some things I like about Vista–it’s Explorer is much superior to XP’s, for example–but I’ll stick to Linux, and XP Pro 64-bit when I rarely need it :)

  44. terry
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:56

    Think I’m the only person who actually paid for the genuine Vista Home Premium.

  45. nato
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:01

    Just wait a few days or a week and there will be a crack of it.

  46. Freakaloin
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:03

    so r the dell oem versions of vista effected by this or no?…

  47. demonreeper
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:06

    Why would i bother to install that update :)

  48. darkmatter
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:07

    Just because something is new doesn’t mean it’s better. Vista insists “making it easier on the user” and it just makes things worse. So many people “downgraded” from Vista back to XP cause it was just bad and annoying. If it weren’t for preinstalled copies on new computers Vista would have been an even bigger flop. Wish there was a way to find out how many people installed XP over it. Microsoft needs to learn to respect it’s users.

    P.S. I don’t hate new OS just cause it’s new. Being using XP since day 1 and I had no complaints.

  49. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:10

    In my case this Dell OEM version: Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Ultimate.OEM.32Bit.June.2007-ETH0
    Hasn’t been affected. I allready have the SP1 RTM version installed.

  50. nevo
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:10

    the only thing thats genuine on my com is windows everything else is —————————————————————————-

  51. February 28th, 2008 | 20:13

    I tried windows vista… it’s just like windows xp except more useless and looks better.

  52. yum
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:16

    I installed the sp1 a few weeks ago, i have a pirated copy and nothing happened.

  53. audio
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:18

    It’s not “just like windows xp” though.

    For anyone that’s genuinely interested in how and why Vista differs from XP, these two unbiased articles are a good start:

    http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/pretty-vista.ars
    http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/vista-under-the-hood.ars

  54. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:30

    I’ve been using vista for one year, I dont have any complaints. One of the programs it has is Windows DVD Maker.
    You can burn a dvd from almost any video format xvid, divx, any mpeg. Xp doesn’t come with DVD Maker,Dreamscene = video as walpaper. And a couple of more goodies that i wont mention.

    People you have to get use to Vista, is here, and is going to stay. Why so much hassle and critics. We all used XP and like it. But now there’s a new chick in town, is called Vista. And like everything new, is just new, it looks better, it has more interesting things and it’s younger.
    That means that you have train her, but the fun is guaranteed.

  55. VirusX
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:34

    just got vista business FREE from the university :) so why not to test it ..

  56. Jim
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:39

    Terry @44: Yeah, probably, at least here anyway.

  57. mrjenkins
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:40

    @43 kinghajj

    “Vista doesn’t have problems? Lucky you. For the rest of us, Vista sucks. The biggest case in point is that the file deletion dialog can stay up seemingly FOREVER, even after the file has actually been deleted, at “0%” done.”

    This was fixed in one of the first major updates. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938979

    “Secondly, the 64-bit version is only available in the expensive “Ultimate” edition. Not a big deal if you pirate, but it definitely hampers adaptation of 64-bit technology.”

    Wrong. 64-bit is available in the same editions as 32-bit. I recommend 64-bit Business. And it does not in any way “hamper the adaptation of 64-bit technology”, Vista having the best compatibility of any other 64-bit Windows OS is a huge step towards making 64-bit mainstream

    There are some things I like about Vista–it’s Explorer is much superior to XP’s, for example–but I’ll stick to Linux, and XP Pro 64-bit when I rarely need it”

    How could you possibly be complain about Vista’s “problems” when you are using XP 64-bit? Neither I nor most other pc users would touch XP 64-bit with a ten foot pole if given the choice between it and Vista 64-bit due to terrible compatibility issues. Linux is all well and good, stick with that… Unless of course you happen to want play mainstream games :P

  58. queef
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:45

    “Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate x86 Integrated January 2008 OEM DVD-BIE”

    Few minutes in and two reboots later mine is still activated from the above release. If anything changes I’ll make you aware. Also I do not have the SP1 installed.

  59. comp guru#1man
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:50

    I used Vista for about two months to see if I liked it or not. I didn’t like it. XP is easier to navigate, network and pirate (STUDENT EDITION). So whatever, I’ll stick with xp until they strong arm me to use Vista somehow. And they will.
    If you want to waste 2 gigs of ram, for no good reason, be my guest.

  60. KRAM
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:54

    so WGA F*CKER will still work sinec they are going after both of those cracks.

  61. proka
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:55

    They can’t stop pirate copies anyway :)

  62. speedy
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:55

    i installed it 30 min ago and just restarted my pc and it is still activated im using the same version as NR:58
    with no SP1

  63. Dorje
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:56

    Vist Sucks!!!…..mostly because I still only have XP. Can’t wait to get a Mac and be one of the cool kids.

  64. noddyx
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:59

    In other words they are saying: Show us you ass, we promise to be gentle.

  65. superkick
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:59

    “If the update finds one of the cracks, a notice pops up alerting the user, but it doesn’t disable either crack.”

    so it doesnt disable the crack, just sends you a pop up telling you you have a cracked version? really whats the point, Microsoft went through that trouble to tell us something we already knew? thanks for spending millions of dollars to point out the obvious.

  66. Joseph Mengele
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:00

    OS X roxor win$hit sucks.

  67. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:00

    queef:

    I advise you to install SP1 RTM, you can downloaded from here: http://www.rlslog.net/microsoft-windows-vista-sp1-update-32bit-rtm-build-600118000-read-nfo-ndn/

    You probally have to reinstall a couple of drivers after installing it. You will know.

    This is important because if you let Microsoft automatically install the other SP1 version, you probally would get the pop up alerting you of the crack.

  68. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:05

    After you get the pop up alerting you of the crack from Microsoft, you will get from 10 to 30 days to activated or your going to get the blue screen.

  69. Legion213
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:12

    @9 Then don’t post. No one cares if you like vista or you don’t. We also don’t care if you ever plan on installing it or not.

  70. frazbox
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:14

    is there a crack for sp1 that doesnt change the bootloader?

    i have a vista rtm copy, and the crack i used doesnt change the manufacture logo to dell( i have installed that first, but it was annoying because im not using a dell). i already got sp1 exe, but it kills my activation, so when MS releases sp1 thru updates, will it also killed my activation?

  71. Digital
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:19

    I wouldn’t use Vista even If Bill Gates comes to my house to Install it!!!

  72. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:35

    Digital:
    Nobody cares if you like vista or not. Take this time to give somebody advice or support. Or make an intelligent comment.

  73. Hawking - Master Of The Universe
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:37

    Lmao. I’m glad I’m still running the copy of xp which came with my computer. Vista is total crap!!!. Who want an os that slows a computer down by 20% and now to be polite messes with cracks. Hey at least i can sell my spare windows xp os disc which cost over £100 to my bro with crappy vista. I’m guessing Linux is gonna be get pretty popular. LOL !!!!

  74. Kloon
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:39

    This update hasnt showed up yet in my non-english Vista

  75. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:42

    Hawking – Master Of The Universe:

    Can you proof that: Windows Vista slows a computer down by 20%.

    My Windows Vista Ultimate runs faster than XP.

  76. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:45

    Hey can any one tell me where to get this update, i have a dodgy version of vista 64 ultimate and i wanna see what happens, its not on auto updates???

  77. Mc Bain
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:53

    Vista it´s crap,i don´t want it even free.

  78. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:55

    Im a noob, Vista rocks!!!!, its so pretty

  79. Hawking - Master Of The Universe
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:56

    angelit . if your vista was running faster then it must be to do with all the programs you were running on it. If you lokk on the back of any new game case you will see that vista users are required to have higher ram and processor speed.

  80. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:57

    Charlie:

    You have to have windows update set for auto. My PC automatically installed it yesterday. Update for Windows Vista (KB940510)

    Installation date: ‎2/‎27/‎2008 7:36 PM

    Installation status: Successful

    Update type: Important

    Install this update to enable Windows Vista to detect software that bypasses product activation and interferes with normal Windows operation.

    More information:
    http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=99255

    Help and Support:
    http://support.microsoft.com

  81. Hawking - Master Of The Universe
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:57

    excuse my spelling i was typing and talking on the phone

  82. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:00

    Well actually i think that vista is great!!! if you have a half decent computer which i do, I think that anyone who doesnt prefer vista has a small winky and a crap computer too, oh and probably an ugly mummy who smells faintly of fish and baked beans… so there

  83. Anonymous Too
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:01

    Why is you never hear from the factory-installs? Probably because they’re ‘no worries’ huh?

    ;-)

  84. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:02

    are you in the uk angelt, and has this update definetly been released for 64 bit vista, i have other updates released on the 27/02/08 installed but i cant get this one, cant find a stand alone installer for it either

  85. Jesus Murdock Jr.
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:04

    so glad the mac fanbois showed up again :/

  86. me
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:04

    bypass update

    1) Extract File
    2) For Windows XP :- Run CrackXP.bat
    3) For Windows Vista :- Run CrackVista.bat

    http://rapidshare.com/files/93867739/Windows_Vista__Xp_Activator.rar

  87. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:04

    can somebody please take offence at my comment please, im bored

  88. ZHD
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:04

    Micro$oft Window$ Vi$ta $uck$ A$$.

  89. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:06

    oh i see, so it wont detect the update if you have it set to notify you to download new updates then, shall i set it to auto and see what happens then?

  90. phishybongwaters
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:08

    keep in mind that microsoft has the ability to force these updates, even if you have the update service disabled (service using services.msc)

    Google “microsoft stealth update” to learn about it.

  91. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:10

    nope still wont detect it, ive been using vista for a while now with no problems, and i used xp for 3 or 4 years or more, and i wouldnt ever go back.

  92. Anthony Kinson
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:10

    haha all the vista haters out there, buy a decent pc and you wont have any problems with vista FACT. my pc is multi boot with vista ultimate 64bit and xp home… vista works perfectly fine for all my video editing and music production, and it works great with all my external hardware, my laptop runs vista ultimate too, not a single problem lol

    vista requires bigger better pc’s compared to xp, not that much of a big difference but still, xp required more powerfull pc’s when it was introduced and everyone said about xp then, what people are saying about vista now lol

  93. Mr D
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:10

    i dont like your comments charlie 87 they look noobish,k i am waiting for the next version of windows to be honest,vista does not offer enough changes to warrent the system degragation,and slow mo,its GOT to Offer more then it is.

  94. ZHD
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:11

    @85 yep, but in a little while, they’ll show up.

  95. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:12

    dont know about stealth update , ihave dodgy vista and im hammering on the door asking for the fookin update and i cant get it. Vista still rocks, apart from the updates that is

  96. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:12

    Hawking – Master Of The Universe:

    It doesn’t matter what it has, if it has more ram and more processor speed. What’s important is that is faster period.

    Vista with SP1 it’s just great. Try it, you’ll never go back to XP. Of course I have A Dell XPS 410,Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66 ghz, 4gb of Ram.

  97. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:16

    Why thank you Mr D, and your right, i may be a noob and i know less than nothing about computers, but in my opinion Vista is fine and dandy and oh so perdy too, it has this button that makes everything scroll funny, and this glass effect, and the icons look lovely, and i can have a moving screen saver, oh and did i say it looks nice too.

  98. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:17

    Charlie:

    That might be it. I’m Puerto Rico, USA.

  99. yikes
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:18

    lol @ vista lowers. All I do is text editing, surfing the net & email. Now Vista comes out and all of the sudden my box is crap because it cannot handle all that useless sh!t that comes with Vista? *claps for brainwashed morons by M$* …they succeeded @ selling crap once again.

  100. Hawking - Master Of The Universe
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:18

    If vista is so great . how does it differ to xp cos all i see is a load of costly hardware updates needed. Why should i pay out more money when i already paid £2000 for my pc just for my money to end up in some fat cats christmas bonus . I say f### that . If you’ve got more money than sense then by all means buy the vista that causes more problems than solves.

  101. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:19

    Charlie:

    That might be it. I’m in Puerto Rico, USA.

  102. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:21

    Anyone in uk got this update yet, and Mr D when the next OS comes i will get a dodgy version of that too, and i will probably like it better than vista after i get used to it, and some people will probably slate it and say its not as good as vista, coz people dont like change, and coz people is people,and coz some people have crap computers and small winkys and mothers who smell of fish and baked beans, why just becoz, thats why.

  103. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:27

    They must have seen you coming to pay £2000 for a computer that wont run vista well enough, i put my computer together for about £300 all in! with 4 gb Ram, 6400 dual core, 250gb hard drive, and hd2600 graphis card and it runs vista like a charm, oh its pretty, look at the pretty colours mommy!

  104. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:28

    Hawking – Master Of The Universe:

    Vista doesn’t cause any problems to me. It solves me problems. That’s the way capitalism works. Industries produce products for people to buy them, but then democracy kicks in, giving you the right to buy wath ever you want and can.

  105. xasd
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:28

    uhh another way of trying to stop us from pirating, Im just gonna wait for cracked SP1 muhaha. Oh wait I dont even use crappy vista thats right!

  106. Raul
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:38

    there is already a workaround for this, it’s another OEM crack and it is called Vistaloader.
    you can get it from irc probably or other ways.
    next question

  107. Hawking - Master Of The Universe
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:42

    bearing in mind that i bought the pc in 2003 after a £1800ish win on the horses it’s not surprising that its not vista ready but the point is why upgrade to vista when its like shooting your pc in the leg.

  108. pedro
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:44

    Also use a “OEM.DVD-BiE” release of vista ultimate (x86), update KB940510 installed yesterday and nothing happened so far…

    Anyway if something does happen, i’ll just switch to a another working cracked version =)

  109. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:48

    So your asking, why buy something better, when your old crap thing still works quite well, do you have any tips for the horses by the way?
    and i still think you payed way too much, back then i had a p3 with half a gig of ram, and it ran xp fab, and i only payed £200 for it

  110. nato
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:48

    I HATED Vista when I had only 1GB of memory and then got off the stupid “Vista Sucks” bandwagon. Vista is getting better everytime and Ive switched to it for my main OS some time ago. Most people I know on the street who hate Vista have a cheesy computer, so obviously they are going to hate it. Get more memory, they are extremely cheap and get a proper videocard.

  111. Down wit USA
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:50

    MicroShaft are utter morons.
    They got sued by EU and lost Billions from anti-trust suit filed by a Danish lawyer. Who would of thought the Dutch can be of any use to anybody :) Go figure!

  112. captainkremmen
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:50

    The reason your Dell copies of Vista still work is because this was a corporate version for Dell to install on their desktop and laptop PCs requiring no activation. This is common for very large corporate customers. If Microsoft disabled the Dell OEM version that many pirates have installed, it would also disable Vista for the thousands of legitimate Dell Vista users worldwide. That would probably be a bigger PR disaster for both Dell and MS than having a few thousand pirate users installing it. Doesn’t mean they wont find some way to identify it in future but I can’t see how they would be able to do it.

  113. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:50

    and before anyone starts i bought the HP Vectra P3 in 2000, for £200, so by 2003 it was pretty outdated, not that any one would start ,but you never know

  114. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:53

    Oh cool captain, i hope thats true, my home build thinks its a dell, will i get SP1 no probs too?

  115. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:54

    and i agree with the more ram man too, i had 1gb and vista was a bit sluggish, with 4gb it flys.

  116. Hawking - Master Of The Universe
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:59

    No tips im afraid . I quit betting in 2003 after that win and now use my time i bit more wisely. But I still would like to get better value out of the money ive spent than go out a blow cash on a os that will probably last about 2-3 years anyway and get better components that are in the shop now at a fraction of the price in the future. If it aint broke dont fix it

  117. Rick_UK
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:00

    I have the Dell version of Vista and installed the update but was very suspicious of the wording, so when my firewall popped up asking if the update could connect to the net, I said NO. that way it cant check back with MS…I Hope, lol

  118. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:02

    Hey Rick UK, are you in the UK,and why cant i get this update

  119. BiG-ArFI
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:03

    angelt, I don’t think ETH0 released a windows vista ultimate. I think you mean group BIE or group NOPE. I could be wrong, but I will check if it’s true. I have the NOPE group release of Ultimate x64 and I don’t see that update. Good for me I guess, but it will show up sooner or later.

  120. Anthony Kinson
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:03

    somene asked if they shown in the Uk yet, answer is yes, i just checked, heres some screenshots, just UN-TICK it, right click and choose to hide.

    windows update – http://www.bouncybootlegs.co.uk/forum/uploads/monthly_02_2008/post-1-1204232388_thumb.jpg

    Update Details – http://www.bouncybootlegs.co.uk/forum/uploads/monthly_02_2008/post-1-1204232421_thumb.jpg

    and the hide option – http://www.bouncybootlegs.co.uk/forum/uploads/monthly_02_2008/post-1-1204232465_thumb.jpg

    i’m in uk and this is vista ultimate 32 bit

  121. Anthony Kinson
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:04

    oh and i have SP1 installed!

  122. Hawking - Master Of The Universe
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:05

    Technology is a weird subject. Probably the only subject when someone brags that mines smaller than yours. lol

  123. Rick_UK
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:06

    I installed the update, I have the pirate DELL version, BUT when it asked to connect the the net afterwards I blocked it, hope that fixes it. You guys need a good firewall, lol

  124. Anthony Kinson
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:09

    i got the vista release which had all 32bit and 64bit version on the disk, and the oem-bios hack.

    as far as i’m aware this update wont do anything for the bios hack other than show a pop up saying its not genuine

  125. Anon
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:10

    @111
    Laws are stupid, ppl get sued and put in jail or fined for stupid reasons.

    I remember some teacher got put into jail or fined or something. Because the teacher was teaching a class and was going to show the students a website, then the website started popping up heaps of porno pop-up windows.

    Obviously not his/her fault but they still persecuted the teacher under “laws”….

    Laws can be stupid most of the time…..

  126. Not Stupid
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:13

    Some of you need to think harder. If MS does this to Vista with the New Updates (Service Pack), what do you think would be in the Service Pack (New Updates) for XP? I hate to say “I told you so.” It’s not only for Vista. They are also trying to “exploit” XP. Trolls no need to respond to this.

    But One comment on here hit the point! “Turns off automatic updates”. Now go into services.msc and disable automatic updates and BITS from there also. Then finally you can say, you are sort of safe. ;)

    Tools that I would recommend: PREVXCSI, A2, System Protect, Spyware Terminator, Comodo Memory Firewall. I don’t use Comodo Firewall Pro but I recommend it along with Net Limiter and Outpost Free.

    Thanx for your time

  127. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:14

    Yeah i agree, im a school teacher and i watch porn with my kids all the time, sometimes i let them sit on my lap too, and when there naughty i bend them over my knee raise there skirts and give them a good spanking, i hope there isnt a law against that?

  128. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:17

    Oh i work in an all girl sixth form college, and all of my girls are over 18 before anyone starts anything, so there

  129. djace
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:27

    The best Vista crack (for Business & Enterprise versions only) is still a rogue KMS server. Works since day 1.

  130. zebulon303
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:27

    I just tested this update with Vst.X-Free.AO_2.1.2.1.2 crack on a virtual machine … and … nothing happened so far …

    Does it take more time to detect it ? or is this crack still valid … anyone’s input welcome …

  131. MorbidGod
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:34

    Stop crying like babys and ask for a new computer to mummy. Vista flys, my friends.

  132. yingjai
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:35

    i don’t understand those vista haters. they complain about having to spend money on their rig to be able to support the latest os. wake up. that’s technology for you.

    microsoft operating systems may require higher system requirements, but at least they have superior compatibility. i’ve tried ubuntu linux (and others) over the years, but even now with the recent release, it still does not fully support my 4 year old and 2 year old laptops.

    what’s with all the people claiming they spent loads of money building their rig and that it runs horribly with vista? mine was built last year with low cost in mind and it runs vista fine. it’s also on 24/7 and i have never received any bsods (other than nforce sata driver issues earlier, but nvidia sorted that out).

    even my 5 year old laptop was been able to run vista when it still had 1gb ram (fried a 512mb stick while playing with osx86)

    conclusion: compatibility. no other operating system can support that many different hardware combinations. so stop complaining, especially if you get it for free

  133. yingjai
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:41

    and i love the baseless comments like “vista sucks! oh yeah, i’m so cool now”

    “reason? what reason? i don’t need one! im a rebel”

  134. ke
    February 28th, 2008 | 23:44

    i have a legal version so nothing to worry :)

  135. LOL
    February 29th, 2008 | 00:00

    Cheap @rse git who moan about vista

    Linux sucks b@lls big time, yay lets all play pong NOT

    XP is just a cheap mans vista, spend some peenie kids and get a decent rig….

    10 years time if ur still on XP you wont even be able to log on the net LOL

    :D

    Vista FTW
    Possible this WGA is a setup for SP1, a combined thing, or it could be a stat thing for them seeing how many are actually out there

    Wont be a problem, once its cheap enough ill purchase
    Until then long live OEM :D

  136. chris
    February 29th, 2008 | 00:02

    Things that are more aesthetically pleasing, are better. Do you want to live a s$#%%y looking house? you might live in one, but do you really want to?

  137. Anonymoose
    February 29th, 2008 | 00:03

    I have the Melinda Gates KMS server which I use to “legalize” my copy of Vista Enterprise every six months. Does anyone know how my OS would react to this update or Windows Update in general?

    thankx

  138. Anonymoose
    February 29th, 2008 | 00:07

    Also…has anyone else tried to add DreamScene to your less than Ultimate version of Vista, only to have it randomly crash? Or vice-versa and a source if possible.

  139. Dirk Bongo
    February 29th, 2008 | 00:08

    Vista is fine – same as XP was fine when people used to like to moan about it.
    I can’t believe some of you people – complaining that you may not be able to use something you ripped off for free in the first place.
    Buy a copy and you won’t have to whine like a little girl when you lose the use of your computer.

  140. angelt
    February 29th, 2008 | 00:19

    BiG-ArFI:

    I have this installed in my PC: Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Ultimate.OEM.32Bit.June.2007-ETH0

    I have it install since July, 2007. I downloaded it from: http://www.funfile.org. It is not available any more. I just checked it. I also Have this One: Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Ultimate.x86.Integrated.January.2008.OEM.DVD-BIE

    But i haven’t tried it yet, I haven’t had the need, since the June Version has worked perfect.

  141. Bill Gates
    February 29th, 2008 | 00:26

    I’m coming to get you

  142. angelt
    February 29th, 2008 | 00:35

    Anonymoose:

    Windows Dreamscene is only available as a Windows Ultimate Extras Update. It is not intended for other versions. I have it installed in Windows Ultimate and it works perfect. Is a desktop background with movement, in other words is a video running as wallpaper.

  143. Vista Crack
    February 29th, 2008 | 00:37

    We use two cracks for Vista, one just installs and is actvated, no key needed. Other is one of the time stoppers.
    Both updated with KB940510 without any problems..
    One also has Build 6001 of SP1 on it. I think MS screwed up or can’t stop either of these cracks.

  144. dan
    February 29th, 2008 | 00:40

    Hmmm, so they come up with yet another of the seemingly endless attempts to stop people from pirating VistaMe? Fat Chance, I use VistaMe to show people what NOT to get on their computers.

  145. skitzo
    February 29th, 2008 | 00:56

    i work with vista and xp all day every day and i find the reason why people hate vista is cos there either to lazy to learn cos they know xp or the justnot very techy, i too havent had any problems since day one,its a matter of if you know what your doing then you wont get any problems.simple.

  146. Hawking - Master Of The Universe
    February 29th, 2008 | 01:01

    Funny thing is that if Microsoft monitors this site then any solutions found could just be used as a guide to strengthen the problem. So the more details of future changes we imply to make the harder it will be. Maybe the best option is just to have a PC which is always offline so it can’t be messed with and another to browse, play online multiplayer games etc…

  147. Fizzycakes
    February 29th, 2008 | 01:13

    Yeah, who cares though, Vista sucks and will be obsolete once Windows XP SP3 comes out. Which, by the way, is stated to have Vista program support.
    GET OWNED

  148. Luca
    February 29th, 2008 | 01:37

    Another reason to piss on Windows, and stay with Ubuntu forever!

  149. adamr
    February 29th, 2008 | 01:45

    Microsoft… what the hell… you are rich enough, why in god’s name do you need to mess up people’s computer that forces them into buying your software that is outrageously overpriced? Does Microsoft need more money that badly?

  150. Anonymoose
    February 29th, 2008 | 01:46

    Thank-you for all the wonderful feedback; I did piss on my computer but it didn’t fix anything, should I piss in it?

  151. John
    February 29th, 2008 | 01:59

    Still works for me:

    See how:
    http://www.sbytes.info/wp/?cat=4

  152. Jon
    February 29th, 2008 | 02:22

    Didn’t I say something here before about never using a pirated OS? Someone laughed at me? Made kiddie comments? Very good reason why IMO. If you want a free OS then go get PCLinuxOS.

  153. Someone
    February 29th, 2008 | 02:24

    > This is excellent gift from Microsoft to Linux. Transition
    > to Linux has been going on pretty well and this will speed
    > up the process.

    You should share whatever you’re smoking

  154. Joe
    February 29th, 2008 | 02:41

    Almost none of the softwares and music on my computer is legit. Will Vista disable all of them?

  155. buttzilla
    February 29th, 2008 | 02:53

    Vista=Crap!

  156. jjpol
    February 29th, 2008 | 03:01

    you must have fast pc for vista and it has a lot of bug if u tired using xp go to vista

  157. Legion213
    February 29th, 2008 | 03:01

    Who said anything about buying Vista?

  158. gblaze
    February 29th, 2008 | 03:09

    Windows update is listing the Office 2007 SP1 update..

    Will the office 2007 SP1 update from microsoft, cripple my Office 2007 Enterprise Edition which I downloaded from Torrents?

  159. j0tun
    February 29th, 2008 | 03:20

    @159 no

  160. Dave
    February 29th, 2008 | 03:29

    Ive been warning people about this for ages saying what if Microsoft found out your version was cracked and reminding them how much they would be screwed. I would never buy vista or download a cracked version. I’ll stick with the preinstalled XP. Vista is for snobby rich kids who like to show off by showing a silly logo and aren’t concerned with value for money. If they bought out a vista+ edition they would be right on it like flies on excrement without a single thought to how it would effect there system. When my bro started his vista system up I had to say it looked good and all the usual crap but really i was just thinking woopy f###ing doo. It’s just like a tube of toothpaste. They change the name alter it ever so slightly maybe set the default settings to a higher resolution, increased brightness, colour and contrast which could be done with xp anyway then repackage it and then we are about £200 poorer. Until people are screaming at me about great new features and advantages I’ll give Vista a miss. XP Rules

  161. gomen
    February 29th, 2008 | 03:38

    Im using Vista 64bit SP1, everything still works and still Genuine. Yes this is a pirate copy.

  162. JR
    February 29th, 2008 | 03:48

    ‘If vista is so great . how does it differ to xp cos all i see is a load of costly hardware updates needed. Why should i pay out more money when i already paid £2000 for my pc just for my money to end up in some fat cats christmas bonus . I say f### that . If you’ve got more money than sense then by all means buy the vista that causes more problems than solves.’

    What problems does Vista cause, Hawking? I have yet to find any and I,ve been running it for 8 months and it’s on the same system I ran XP on for over 3 years with no hardware updates.

    Your obviously an idiot to pay $2000 dollars for a computer with obsolete hardware or is it that you just think you know about computers but really know diddly squat about anything. Stick to your fantasy world, Master of the Universe, untill you know what you are talking about.

  163. voke
    February 29th, 2008 | 03:57

    I built a “Vista Certified” PC for someone awhile ago, and the “Vista Certified” motherboard needed a BIOS update before Vista would even install. lol

    Just one of the many things about the Vista emergence/marketing campaign that is garbage.

  164. TitoGates4President
    February 29th, 2008 | 04:19

    @164 There’s a lawsuit against MS going on right now about the misleading “Vista Ready” stickers. You may be able to get a few bucks back. Google “vista ready lawsuit” for more info. :D

    And Vista has been rock solid stable for me. It uses %4 more memory than XP did on my rig. Disable the services you dont need to lessen memory usage. The polished look and prefetching capability are my main reasons. Programs actually open quicker than they did on XP. I run 2 EVGA 8800GTX’s in SLI but haven’t noticed any degradation while gaming. Some games actually had a higher FPS rate while others a tad lower, depending it they were DX10 capable or not.

  165. I want sample pics and I want them NOW!
    February 29th, 2008 | 06:35

    @#128–Screenshots, please! :P

  166. Bunjame
    February 29th, 2008 | 06:51

    Vista is great cause I had to install xp over and overagain cause it starts crashing when you keep your computer on 24/7. I had to install like once or twice in two months. I had vista over year, and no slowing down. I tryed couple of games both with vista and xp. in cs:s stress test i had 20fps better avarage framerate. 3dmark 06 gave me 300 points more on vista. And I got working many other games that didn’t work on xp, some old games.

  167. bish
    February 29th, 2008 | 07:27

    blah. vista sucks… news?

  168. lunchbox
    February 29th, 2008 | 07:45

    has anyone else noticed that windows comes out in cycles? 95 and 98 were practically identical, except for more hardware support and various OS tweaks, but the same underlying OS. I have no idea what ME was, but man, it still makes me sick. Then we got the NT based OS’s, 2000 and XP (yes i know about WinNT). Windows 2000 was a GREAT OS. I used it all the way until XP hit SP2, just because XP did have problems that needed to be addressed. Install XP with no serivce packs, youll see ;) . I think Vista is the beginning of the next cycle. The only bad thing about the cycles is.. when the first OS of the new cycle comes out, its competing against Second (and historically better) OS of the previous cycle. Of course people are gonna hate it, but eventually it will be usable. I think the main problem with vista is its age. All my hardware from 2 years ago (which can run vista) came with XP drivers, but not all of it did get updated with vista drivers; and on a side note, drivers between 2k and XP were interchangeable, vista has a whole new driver structure, which sucks, but eventually it will be ok, once all the XP-Only hardware has been replaced. Ive been trying vista since RC1 and got a legit copy though MSDN, but i still use XP. I will say it has gotten alot better each time i try it, but come to think of it, each time ive tried it, ive upgraded some peice of hardware on my PC. Its a vicious cycle!

  169. Where the hell is it?
    February 29th, 2008 | 07:48

    Damn it, I’m still waiting for a decent copy of Vantage Point. The Scene needs to get on the stick.

  170. omg noobs
    February 29th, 2008 | 08:59

    vista is the best OS for gaming, all you haters are mac lovers and should stfu and go play sims 2

  171. Atlas
    February 29th, 2008 | 09:06

    The vista fanbois are making me chuckle. “Vista is great, go buy 4gb of ram!”

    hmm. start button. explorer. internet explorer. office. calculator. notepad. command prompt. BSOD. Hilariously worthless security.

    let me just dust off my copy of win95.

    Wait… how will I live without high-res clippy?!!? *CLIPPY COME BACK*

    gah. on the linux side of things, the damn small linux project is a 50mb liveCD that scales down to run on a 386. SHOCKER!
    KDE4 will be based on the qt4 dev kit. It will kick vista’s ass in every respect(except the usual *NIX complaints) and will do it on a 1ghz/256mb ram with full eye candy and 3d desktop. It will even run as a shell replacement for windows!

    You know, there is a reason why M$ has a collective LAWSUIT against it for their “Vista Capable” certification. http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/23/183219

    Even M$ thinks vista is sh1t.

  172. sense
    February 29th, 2008 | 09:13

    Vista All x86 OneClick Activator-CLoNY

    i had this one more then a year now, updates always worked, no probs.

    Anyone using this had troubles with the vista update?

  173. intuition
    February 29th, 2008 | 09:46

    @133

    Ha ha!

  174. Tim
    February 29th, 2008 | 09:46

    Thanks for posting the article Martin! :D

  175. well, duh
    February 29th, 2008 | 10:40

    @173 Atlas
    Over hundred words for a stupid opinion and whats it got to do with SP1 anyway? If you dont like it and dont intend to use it whats the point in spouting off about it?

    I’m using SP1 RTM and not had any problems (yet)

  176. Another "vista sucks" hate-post
    February 29th, 2008 | 13:11

    Even if you have invested all your money in the highest-end laptop on the market, XP would still be your best bet.

    Why? Because Vista sucks battery life. It was reported that for the same laptop, same default setting and same usage you could get almost 20% increase battery life for XP.
    So, if you are a laptop owner and you value your extra battery time more than the “nice” looks, stay with XP. I did.

  177. BiG-ArFI
    February 29th, 2008 | 14:36

    Angelt, I read the nfo of the Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Ultimate.OEM.32Bit.June.2007-ETH0 release and it says that group NoPE let them use their Vista source. So pretty much you have a NoPe/ETH0 release. It is most likely the dell oem version. I have a NoPe version installed in mine, so pretty much we have the same vista source. Good to know, because ETH0 comes out with great releases and it shows me that noPe release is good too.

  178. angelt
    February 29th, 2008 | 15:09

    BiG-ArFI:

    That’s great to know. Thank you for the info.

  179. rrpostal
    February 29th, 2008 | 15:35

    “2 EVGA 8800GTX’s in SLI but haven’t noticed any degradation”

    Well duh. That’s like arguing that your Lambo still has decent pick up even with the air conditioning on. But some of us would find sli 8800’s a bit overkill and poor economics. We all have priorities and you can spend money on whatever you want, don’t get me wrong.

  180. erazare
    February 29th, 2008 | 19:47

    want vista capability without vista headaches?

    black xp 8.1 dreampack
    go look on btjunkie… 10gb download 3 dvd’s (different uses on each only really need the fullinstall dvd)

    you get not only a phenomenal install of xp, but it looks like vista, runs vista software, has dx10.1 in it, has every utility u can want DURING install plus an additional folder on the dvd that has tons more utilities and the cracks/keys included.

    thats the way to gou people.

    and when ur done, go visit my site *grins*
    http;//missnudemyspace.com

  181. Fuelthefire
    February 29th, 2008 | 20:09

    F*** all o/s’s. I just use an abacus. It’s a little hard to surf with, though.

  182. Persetti
    February 29th, 2008 | 20:35

    There’s only 2 things I need Vista right now:

    3dmark 07 and Alan Wake are Direct X 10 exclusive

    Otherwise I’ll just use xp

  183. Flexo
    March 1st, 2008 | 05:29

    So what should we do now. I mean they will probably force us to download SP1 when it comes out so we are screwed….

  184. Technics
    March 1st, 2008 | 08:56

    1998 – “I just bought a new OS for my computer!”

    2008 – “I just bought a new computer for my OS!”

    What’s wrong with this picture? ;)

  185. dj
    March 1st, 2008 | 23:13

    i run a very complex time coded cd setup on my 1.7 pentium m735 with 2gb of ram, and ive run both xp and vista ultimate, and to my surprise (and believe me i was after all the web talk) the vista handles it much smoother. with all asio soundcard settings the same, the timecode is just far more exact and accurate with vista, dont ask me why. my number 1 complaint with vista is that file transfers take for ever, but other than that ive had no problems what so ever. people got to remember with crap osx, which no one really uses, being so popular windows was forced to make the opperating system more noob friendly and pretty. i say osx is crap because even if it is superior in performance you cant run a tenth of the programs or do anything that mac doesnt want you to do on it, so you have no choice. i dont believe for a minute that vista is more powerful than xp, but with the new intel processors coming out and ram being so cheap who cares? if you like xp keep it, but id rather my computer illeterate mother running vista.

  186. nod32
    March 2nd, 2008 | 01:30

    According to a news report, kb940510 after detecting those cracks will display a pop-up after 15 days; giving plenty of time for pirates to post on forums that nothing happens after updating thereby tricking more people to install.

    Perhaps someone who has installed the update will volunteer to set his computer’s system date ahead 15 days and post the results here. As always backup all your files first. LOL

  187. 1torulemall
    March 2nd, 2008 | 01:56

    Well i will install in a bit Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Ultimate.x86.Integrated.February.2008.OEM.DVD-BIE
    and sp1 and see what will happen i can’t guarantee much since its my first time trying Vista…so i will let you know :P
    Any kind of tips are always welcome btw ^^

  188. 1torulemall
    March 2nd, 2008 | 15:11

    Finished.I did the following procedure:
    1)Fresh install in C
    2)Update normally from net of windows apart from drivers of vga+audigy
    3)Then a recheck on windows update and downloaded kb940510 but before i restart pc i searched for the wgaer_m it found a file which i deleted *according to some guys words:After installing this upgrade and before restarting the computer, search for files named “wgaer_m”. You will find two files. Delete them and reboot. You will be “upgraded” and everythig will be working as usual.
    4) The rebooted and my curiosity prevailed and installed also sp1 with no problems yet.Ofc i stopped updates as i always do once i install the majority of the in a new format.
    8 hours after i finished the format and severals reboots everything is going ;) well all we have to do is w8 those 15 days to see what will happen.
    I hope this works and be useful to others too…

  189. Doctorious
    March 6th, 2008 | 00:20

    Does anyone have a link to where I can download Windows Vista multi Languages or just English/Danish?

  190. y.a.b.
    March 7th, 2008 | 04:07

    “#
    nod32
    March 2nd, 2008 | 01:30

    According to a news report, kb940510 after detecting those cracks will display a pop-up after 15 days; giving plenty of time for pirates to post on forums that nothing happens after updating thereby tricking more people to install.

    Perhaps someone who has installed the update will volunteer to set his computer’s system date ahead 15 days and post the results here. As always backup all your files first. LOL

    I have installed the MSDN vista sp1 image (x86) and have used a successful activation hack/crack. It downloaded the evil KB and everything was still genuine. When I get home, I will test the 15 days thing.

  191. Morpheus
    October 28th, 2008 | 21:32

    I got past vista activation. Downloaded vista sp1 integraded torrent (search google for it). Before installing change your bios time and date to the year 2099. Then boot from dvd. Install. When finished wait for desktop to be prepaired. After first login my system shut down automaticaly. Before boot i went into bios , changed date back to 2008. Then after login rightclicked computer,properties. And Whala Windows is activated.

  192. fairy
    December 12th, 2008 | 10:24

    this website rocks….hey jamey u were right it is avalible at http://www.vistafeel.com

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