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New Vista update sniffs for pirated copies

Posted on 28.02.2008 at 18:50 in Tech News by Martin

As it promised, Microsoft Corp. yesterday started sending Windows Vista users an update that identifies illegal copies of the operating system installed with cracks that the company will disable when it distributes Service Pack 1 (SP1) in two weeks. Last Thursday, Microsoft announced the update, which detects two common cracks used to activate pirated copies of Vista, and said it would hit Windows Update (WU) within a week. Users who have left Vista’s recommended WU settings alone will receive the update automatically. Others, said Microsoft, must enable Automatic Update within Vista or manually call up WU from the Start menu.

A document posted to the company’s support site spelled out the details. Among other things, it promised that the 3MB update “does not affect the functionality of your operating system.” That jibes with what Alex Kochis, senior product manager for Microsoft’s Windows Genuine Advantage program, said last week when he announced the update. If the update finds one of the cracks, a notice pops up alerting the user, but it doesn’t disable either crack. The first, dubbed “Grace Timer,” extends Vista’s activation grace period, while the other, “OEM BIOS,” mimics factory-floor activation. Users whose PCs don’t have the cracks will not see the pop-up. Ouch, dark times for all Vista pirates! I’m sure there will be workaround pretty soon though…

Source: Computerworld

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  1. Choakem
    February 28th, 2008 | 18:53

    Vista still sucks anyway! :P

  2. arf
    February 28th, 2008 | 18:57

    dont see why people bother will illegal versions of window xp and vista…just causes problems with microsoft constantly tryin to release anti-piracy updates.
    theres plenty of simple way to get legit copies of XP and Vista for free!!

  3. DukeNuke
    February 28th, 2008 | 18:57

    **turns automatic updates off**

  4. gilmour
    February 28th, 2008 | 18:59

    The workaround is don’t be dumb enough to have Windows Update set to Auto in the first place and then don’t manually install it when it appears in your update list, just set it to be hidden so it doesn’t appear any more.

  5. richard
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:00

    watch out for Update for Windows Vista (KB940510

  6. Swaggie
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:02

    yep I have a 3mb update sitting waiting for me to press the install now button the serial for this fix is (KB940510)

    I think I’ll hold off pressing the install button for now..

    one thing I would liek to know, is that I have already installed teh SP1, a couple of weeks ago, when the actual released to manufacturers release came out.. wonder what it will do to that ?

  7. Hahaha
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:04

    ONE more reason not to install Vista

  8. jah booty
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:04

    go to a college pay a kid $10 and have him give his copy to you. he can then go back to the campus store and buy it again for $5. that’s why i have had legit xp forever. i actually own a oem xp from before any service packs were released but i got the student professional just b/c it has sp2. i know i could of done it myself through nlite but why bother when a some kid makes out well and i dont have to go through nlite and do all this unecessary crap and microsoft made $5.

  9. C2007
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:04

    Don’t care. Never gonna run Vista crap anyway.

  10. boris22os
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:05

    richard, watch out for vista in general :D xp + sp3 when it arrives = great

  11. dragoshell
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:06

    who wants more of vista anyway? :)

  12. john
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:07

    tell me what is the problem with vista? i haven’t had not one problem yet so far. so it is a good os to get. i haven’t had not one problem so far with vista. so what are the common problems for vista?

  13. jewboy666
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:10

    it doesn’t allow me to hide that update

  14. ePlus
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:10

    Microsoft.Windows.XP.Professional.Corporate.SP2.Integrated.February.2008-ETH0

  15. Venomhed
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:11

    Or you fools could do this rather obscure Windows XP Pro reg hack. Copy the following reg lines, save them as whatever name you want.reg. So XPLegit.reg

    ANY version of XP Pro, SP0-2, will work. No more sutpid WGA cracks and hacks. This works and MS will never stop it because it is so obscure. SP3 is around the corner, and they have never mentioned anything about this.

    And, you’re ALL welcome!

    ************************************************************

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WPAEvents]
    “OOBETimer”=hex:ff,d5,71,d6,8b,6a,8d,6f,d5,33,93,fd
    “LastWPAEventLogged”=hex:d5,07,05,00,06,00,07,00,0f,00,38,00,24,00,fd,02

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
    “SubVersionNumber”=”"
    “CurrentBuild”=”1.511.1 () (Obsolete data – do not use)”
    “InstallDate”=dword:449ffae8
    “ProductName”=”Microsoft Windows XP”
    “RegDone”=”"
    “RegisteredOrganization”=”"
    “RegisteredOwner”=”*”
    “SoftwareType”=”SYSTEM”
    “CurrentVersion”=”5.1″
    “CurrentBuildNumber”=”2600″
    “BuildLab”=”2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519″
    “CurrentType”=”Uniprocessor Free”
    “CSDVersion”=”Service Pack 2″
    “SystemRoot”=”C:\\WINDOWS”
    “SourcePath”=”J:\\I386″
    “PathName”=”C:\\WINDOWS”
    “ProductId”=”55274-640-8365391-23423″
    “DigitalProductId”=hex:a4,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,35,35,32,37,34,2d,36,34,30,2d,\
    38,33,36,35,33,39,31,2d,32,33,34,32,33,00,2e,00,00,00,41,32,32,2d,30,30,30,\
    30,31,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,76,c7,64,cc,82,46,03,68,eb,53,4a,11,a5,85,03,00,\
    00,00,00,00,2d,da,51,45,4a,e5,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
    00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,31,37,37,30,36,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,35,0e,\
    00,00,6e,d6,14,2c,00,04,00,00,89,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
    00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,52,e8,c3,90
    “LicenseInfo”=hex:33,8f,a0,0e,09,ea,dd,48,c3,a6,83,c4,e5,ed,f7,3e,e2,9e,13,ab,\
    c2,79,2d,4c,f9,f9,8b,d4,b3,b9,33,06,4b,88,48,58,c7,d7,d3,60,f0,61,55,f3,ae,\
    0e,07,c2,d7,27,28,3b,f4,de,64,88

    ***************************************8

  16. Code Monkey
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:12

    I use the Dell copy of Vista Ultimate that has been floating around for a year now. Installed the SP1 that #6 is talking about a few weeks ago and just checked, I got update KB940510 yesterday afternoon and my Vista is still activated “genuine”. No problems here. :)

  17. but what if
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:13

    i saw this update on my sp1-rtm vista windows update page… so i simply used the “hide update” option so it wont pop-up in the system tray saying that there is new update all the time, look like everything is still working as it supposed to. but you never know if it’s gonna last forever until MS will release sp1 for the general public.

  18. GiGi.
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:13

    There is no problem with Vista, people always have to bash something and if there is nothing to bash about they will find something anyway.

  19. vypez
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:14

    i love vista much more effectic plus im runnin 4 gb ram so its all kriss

  20. Venomhed
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:15

    BTW – On my XP reg comment, do NOT copy the asterisks, just everything in between.

  21. Zonoz
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:16

    Yeah does anyone know if one were to use system restore… will it get rid of the update??

  22. Code Monkey
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:17

    I remember when XP first came out and it was just as hated as Vista. Personally, I don’t get into whiny fanboy flame wars about which OS is better. And that’s all it is. Vista has never give me any problems at all with any game or software that I use. As long as you have a decent box it works just fine. I won’t touch XP Pro again after switching.

  23. MrJack
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:26

    @22 Code Monkey

    Well said.

  24. big sexy
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:29

    vista sucks anyway

  25. bob marley
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:31

    vista sucks donkey balls

  26. james
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:32

    This is excellent gift from Microsoft to Linux. Transition to Linux has been going on pretty well and this will speed up the process.

    Thumb up for M$! :P

  27. you are all lame
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:32

    So? how about just ignoring the update “do not show this update again” yadayada.

    And besides, it does not forcefully remove any detected cracks.

    So, why even bother to make such noise about this?

    That’s just lame.

  28. Luke
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:34

    Ah Vista bashers, the next generation of XP bashers. It has come full circle once again.

  29. Bob
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:35

    Everybody always hates the new OS, it’s happened with every new release. Vista isn’t bad it is just annoying.

  30. funkykid
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:35

    yous on here that are praising vista do yous actually game with? cause it sucks for gaming uses up all your resources

  31. intuition
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:36

    I’ve never actually heard a good argument for why vista sucks. Just seems to be people following the herd like sheep.

  32. Venomhed
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:37

    Just because i happen to be homosexual, doesn’t mean i can’t post my exported registry settings with absolute paths (LOL)!

  33. Solution
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:38

    Why doesn’t someone just completely remove all the anti-piracy measures in Windows? I mean all the crap like WGA, activation and validation… and then remove the code that physically ties the software with the hardware, so Windows can be used on USB, eSATA,1394, CD/DVD, just as simple as Linux? And don’t forget to replace them Microsoft certificates that time out, while your at it! I bet most of you didn’t know about that, did you?

    Look in your certificate manager under trusted authorities. Then ask yourself when did you give permission for all these certificate that allow of deny your software, connections and even SSL websites. This just means, Microsoft made the choices for you, without your consent.

    It only takes one version, and everyone can bypass all this crap for good. And while we at this, make this open source code, so everyone can improve it! Yeah!

  34. BiG-ArFI
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:39

    Humm, I don’t see that update on my windows update page, and I have the dell oem version installed with the sp1 rtm installed also. I tried to check in windows update and it doesn’t come up for me to download, not that I want it to. Hopefully this is not a big deal.

  35. M
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:39

    coulda used this news a little earlier….

  36. BollyUser
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:40

    Here are the screenshots to know how this update works:
    http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17209

  37. Solution
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:41

    Why doesn’t someone just completely remove all the anti-piracy measures in Windows? I mean all the crap like WGA, activation and validation… and then remove the code that physically ties the software with the hardware, so Windows can be used on USB, eSATA,1394, CD/DVD, just as simple as Linux? And don’t forget to replace them Microsoft certificates that time out, while your at it! I bet most of you didn’t know about that, did you?

    Look in your certificate manager under trusted authorities. Then ask yourself when did you give permission for all these certificate that allow of deny your software, connections and even SSL websites. This just means, Microsoft made the choices for you, without your consent.

    And while we at this, make this open source code, so everyone can improve it! Yeah!

  38. Albert
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:46

    I game (Crysis, Steam games, Company of Heroes, Universe at War, etc) with my vista and I have no problems whatsoever. It’s hard to use XP after using Vista for awhile now. I have a legit version of Vista Ultimate so I am not worried about this update. I will admit that when Vista first came out it was garbage but they have made a lot of improvements since then so there isn’t any real reasons to bash it anymore.

  39. Andrew
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:50

    woohoo I still have a legit vista lol

  40. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:52

    Yesterday, without knowing, i let Update for Windows Vista (KB940510)automatically installed in my PC. I have this upgrade installed: Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Ultimate.OEM.32Bit.June.2007-ETH0 I also have this installed: Microsoft.Windows.Vista.SP1.Update.32Bit.RTM.Build.6001.18000.Read.NFO-nDn

    I dont understand because nothing happen, I didn’t get any warning or pop up notice of any crack. I imagine that since I allready have SP1 RTM installed, the other SP1 version that Windows is releasing next week, cant get installed in my PC.

    What you guys think? Give your opinion.

  41. :D
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:53

    screw cracks… get ur bios modded :D

    http://forums.mydigitallife.info/showthread.php?t=814

  42. Name
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:53

    Can’t update my vista for months ehh guess I don’t have to worry about it now. LOL

  43. kinghajj
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:53

    Vista doesn’t have problems? Lucky you. For the rest of us, Vista sucks. The biggest case in point is that the file deletion dialog can stay up seemingly FOREVER, even after the file has actually been deleted, at “0%” done.

    Secondly, the 64-bit version is only available in the expensive “Ultimate” edition. Not a big deal if you pirate, but it definitely hampers adaptation of 64-bit technology.

    There are some things I like about Vista–it’s Explorer is much superior to XP’s, for example–but I’ll stick to Linux, and XP Pro 64-bit when I rarely need it :)

  44. terry
    February 28th, 2008 | 19:56

    Think I’m the only person who actually paid for the genuine Vista Home Premium.

  45. nato
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:01

    Just wait a few days or a week and there will be a crack of it.

  46. Freakaloin
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:03

    so r the dell oem versions of vista effected by this or no?…

  47. demonreeper
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:06

    Why would i bother to install that update :)

  48. darkmatter
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:07

    Just because something is new doesn’t mean it’s better. Vista insists “making it easier on the user” and it just makes things worse. So many people “downgraded” from Vista back to XP cause it was just bad and annoying. If it weren’t for preinstalled copies on new computers Vista would have been an even bigger flop. Wish there was a way to find out how many people installed XP over it. Microsoft needs to learn to respect it’s users.

    P.S. I don’t hate new OS just cause it’s new. Being using XP since day 1 and I had no complaints.

  49. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:10

    In my case this Dell OEM version: Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Ultimate.OEM.32Bit.June.2007-ETH0
    Hasn’t been affected. I allready have the SP1 RTM version installed.

  50. nevo
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:10

    the only thing thats genuine on my com is windows everything else is —————————————————————————-

  51. Mr. X staff member
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:13

    I tried windows vista… it’s just like windows xp except more useless and looks better.

  52. yum
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:16

    I installed the sp1 a few weeks ago, i have a pirated copy and nothing happened.

  53. audio
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:18

    It’s not “just like windows xp” though.

    For anyone that’s genuinely interested in how and why Vista differs from XP, these two unbiased articles are a good start:

    http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/pretty-vista.ars
    http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/vista-under-the-hood.ars

  54. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:30

    I’ve been using vista for one year, I dont have any complaints. One of the programs it has is Windows DVD Maker.
    You can burn a dvd from almost any video format xvid, divx, any mpeg. Xp doesn’t come with DVD Maker,Dreamscene = video as walpaper. And a couple of more goodies that i wont mention.

    People you have to get use to Vista, is here, and is going to stay. Why so much hassle and critics. We all used XP and like it. But now there’s a new chick in town, is called Vista. And like everything new, is just new, it looks better, it has more interesting things and it’s younger.
    That means that you have train her, but the fun is guaranteed.

  55. VirusX
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:34

    just got vista business FREE from the university :) so why not to test it ..

  56. Jim
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:39

    Terry @44: Yeah, probably, at least here anyway.

  57. mrjenkins
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:40

    @43 kinghajj

    “Vista doesn’t have problems? Lucky you. For the rest of us, Vista sucks. The biggest case in point is that the file deletion dialog can stay up seemingly FOREVER, even after the file has actually been deleted, at “0%” done.”

    This was fixed in one of the first major updates. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938979

    “Secondly, the 64-bit version is only available in the expensive “Ultimate” edition. Not a big deal if you pirate, but it definitely hampers adaptation of 64-bit technology.”

    Wrong. 64-bit is available in the same editions as 32-bit. I recommend 64-bit Business. And it does not in any way “hamper the adaptation of 64-bit technology”, Vista having the best compatibility of any other 64-bit Windows OS is a huge step towards making 64-bit mainstream

    There are some things I like about Vista–it’s Explorer is much superior to XP’s, for example–but I’ll stick to Linux, and XP Pro 64-bit when I rarely need it”

    How could you possibly be complain about Vista’s “problems” when you are using XP 64-bit? Neither I nor most other pc users would touch XP 64-bit with a ten foot pole if given the choice between it and Vista 64-bit due to terrible compatibility issues. Linux is all well and good, stick with that… Unless of course you happen to want play mainstream games :P

  58. queef
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:45

    “Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate x86 Integrated January 2008 OEM DVD-BIE”

    Few minutes in and two reboots later mine is still activated from the above release. If anything changes I’ll make you aware. Also I do not have the SP1 installed.

  59. comp guru#1man
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:50

    I used Vista for about two months to see if I liked it or not. I didn’t like it. XP is easier to navigate, network and pirate (STUDENT EDITION). So whatever, I’ll stick with xp until they strong arm me to use Vista somehow. And they will.
    If you want to waste 2 gigs of ram, for no good reason, be my guest.

  60. KRAM
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:54

    so WGA F*CKER will still work sinec they are going after both of those cracks.

  61. proka
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:55

    They can’t stop pirate copies anyway :)

  62. speedy
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:55

    i installed it 30 min ago and just restarted my pc and it is still activated im using the same version as NR:58
    with no SP1

  63. Dorje
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:56

    Vist Sucks!!!…..mostly because I still only have XP. Can’t wait to get a Mac and be one of the cool kids.

  64. noddyx
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:59

    In other words they are saying: Show us you ass, we promise to be gentle.

  65. superkick
    February 28th, 2008 | 20:59

    “If the update finds one of the cracks, a notice pops up alerting the user, but it doesn’t disable either crack.”

    so it doesnt disable the crack, just sends you a pop up telling you you have a cracked version? really whats the point, Microsoft went through that trouble to tell us something we already knew? thanks for spending millions of dollars to point out the obvious.

  66. Joseph Mengele
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:00

    OS X roxor win$hit sucks.

  67. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:00

    queef:

    I advise you to install SP1 RTM, you can downloaded from here: http://www.rlslog.net/microsoft-windows-vista-sp1-update-32bit-rtm-build-600118000-read-nfo-ndn/

    You probally have to reinstall a couple of drivers after installing it. You will know.

    This is important because if you let Microsoft automatically install the other SP1 version, you probally would get the pop up alerting you of the crack.

  68. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:05

    After you get the pop up alerting you of the crack from Microsoft, you will get from 10 to 30 days to activated or your going to get the blue screen.

  69. Legion213
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:12

    @9 Then don’t post. No one cares if you like vista or you don’t. We also don’t care if you ever plan on installing it or not.

  70. frazbox
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:14

    is there a crack for sp1 that doesnt change the bootloader?

    i have a vista rtm copy, and the crack i used doesnt change the manufacture logo to dell( i have installed that first, but it was annoying because im not using a dell). i already got sp1 exe, but it kills my activation, so when MS releases sp1 thru updates, will it also killed my activation?

  71. Digital
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:19

    I wouldn’t use Vista even If Bill Gates comes to my house to Install it!!!

  72. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:35

    Digital:
    Nobody cares if you like vista or not. Take this time to give somebody advice or support. Or make an intelligent comment.

  73. Hawking - Master Of The Universe
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:37

    Lmao. I’m glad I’m still running the copy of xp which came with my computer. Vista is total crap!!!. Who want an os that slows a computer down by 20% and now to be polite messes with cracks. Hey at least i can sell my spare windows xp os disc which cost over £100 to my bro with crappy vista. I’m guessing Linux is gonna be get pretty popular. LOL !!!!

  74. Kloon
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:39

    This update hasnt showed up yet in my non-english Vista

  75. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:42

    Hawking – Master Of The Universe:

    Can you proof that: Windows Vista slows a computer down by 20%.

    My Windows Vista Ultimate runs faster than XP.

  76. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:45

    Hey can any one tell me where to get this update, i have a dodgy version of vista 64 ultimate and i wanna see what happens, its not on auto updates???

  77. Mc Bain
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:53

    Vista it´s crap,i don´t want it even free.

  78. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:55

    Im a noob, Vista rocks!!!!, its so pretty

  79. Hawking - Master Of The Universe
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:56

    angelit . if your vista was running faster then it must be to do with all the programs you were running on it. If you lokk on the back of any new game case you will see that vista users are required to have higher ram and processor speed.

  80. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:57

    Charlie:

    You have to have windows update set for auto. My PC automatically installed it yesterday. Update for Windows Vista (KB940510)

    Installation date: ‎2/‎27/‎2008 7:36 PM

    Installation status: Successful

    Update type: Important

    Install this update to enable Windows Vista to detect software that bypasses product activation and interferes with normal Windows operation.

    More information:
    http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=99255

    Help and Support:
    http://support.microsoft.com

  81. Hawking - Master Of The Universe
    February 28th, 2008 | 21:57

    excuse my spelling i was typing and talking on the phone

  82. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:00

    Well actually i think that vista is great!!! if you have a half decent computer which i do, I think that anyone who doesnt prefer vista has a small winky and a crap computer too, oh and probably an ugly mummy who smells faintly of fish and baked beans… so there

  83. Anonymous Too
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:01

    Why is you never hear from the factory-installs? Probably because they’re ‘no worries’ huh?

    ;-)

  84. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:02

    are you in the uk angelt, and has this update definetly been released for 64 bit vista, i have other updates released on the 27/02/08 installed but i cant get this one, cant find a stand alone installer for it either

  85. Jesus Murdock Jr.
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:04

    so glad the mac fanbois showed up again :/

  86. me
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:04

    bypass update

    1) Extract File
    2) For Windows XP :- Run CrackXP.bat
    3) For Windows Vista :- Run CrackVista.bat

    http://rapidshare.com/files/93867739/Windows_Vista__Xp_Activator.rar

  87. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:04

    can somebody please take offence at my comment please, im bored

  88. ZHD
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:04

    Micro$oft Window$ Vi$ta $uck$ A$$.

  89. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:06

    oh i see, so it wont detect the update if you have it set to notify you to download new updates then, shall i set it to auto and see what happens then?

  90. phishybongwaters
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:08

    keep in mind that microsoft has the ability to force these updates, even if you have the update service disabled (service using services.msc)

    Google “microsoft stealth update” to learn about it.

  91. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:10

    nope still wont detect it, ive been using vista for a while now with no problems, and i used xp for 3 or 4 years or more, and i wouldnt ever go back.

  92. Anthony Kinson
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:10

    haha all the vista haters out there, buy a decent pc and you wont have any problems with vista FACT. my pc is multi boot with vista ultimate 64bit and xp home… vista works perfectly fine for all my video editing and music production, and it works great with all my external hardware, my laptop runs vista ultimate too, not a single problem lol

    vista requires bigger better pc’s compared to xp, not that much of a big difference but still, xp required more powerfull pc’s when it was introduced and everyone said about xp then, what people are saying about vista now lol

  93. Mr D
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:10

    i dont like your comments charlie 87 they look noobish,k i am waiting for the next version of windows to be honest,vista does not offer enough changes to warrent the system degragation,and slow mo,its GOT to Offer more then it is.

  94. ZHD
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:11

    @85 yep, but in a little while, they’ll show up.

  95. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:12

    dont know about stealth update , ihave dodgy vista and im hammering on the door asking for the fookin update and i cant get it. Vista still rocks, apart from the updates that is

  96. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:12

    Hawking – Master Of The Universe:

    It doesn’t matter what it has, if it has more ram and more processor speed. What’s important is that is faster period.

    Vista with SP1 it’s just great. Try it, you’ll never go back to XP. Of course I have A Dell XPS 410,Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66 ghz, 4gb of Ram.

  97. Charlie
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:16

    Why thank you Mr D, and your right, i may be a noob and i know less than nothing about computers, but in my opinion Vista is fine and dandy and oh so perdy too, it has this button that makes everything scroll funny, and this glass effect, and the icons look lovely, and i can have a moving screen saver, oh and did i say it looks nice too.

  98. angelt
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:17

    Charlie:

    That might be it. I’m Puerto Rico, USA.

  99. yikes
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:18

    lol @ vista lowers. All I do is text editing, surfing the net & email. Now Vista comes out and all of the sudden my box is crap because it cannot handle all that useless sh!t that comes with Vista? *claps for brainwashed morons by M$* …they succeeded @ selling crap once again.

  100. Hawking - Master Of The Universe
    February 28th, 2008 | 22:18

    If vista is so great . how does it differ to xp cos all i see is a load of costly hardware updates needed. Why should i pay out more money when i already paid £2000 for my pc just for my money to end up in some fat cats christmas bonus . I say f### that . If you’ve got more money than sense then by all means buy the vista that causes more problems than solves.

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