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New Mac virus threatening internet pirates

Tens of thousands of users who’ve downloaded pirated versions of iWork ’09 or Photoshop CS4 may have opened their Macs to remote attacks from malicious users. Mac security software maker Intego discovered last week what it calls “OSX.Trojan.iServices.A” in pirated copies of Apple’s iWork ’09 making the rounds on BitTorrent file sharing networks.  An additional package not found in retail copies of the iWork installer called “iWorkServices.pkg” is installed as a startup item with read/write/execute abilities with the pirated versions. According to Intego, the rogue software connects to a remote server to notify its creator that the trojan has been installed on different Macs, and he or she can “connect to them and perform various actions remotely”, including downloading additional components to the machine.

Intego considers the risk of infection to be serious, warning of “extremely serious consequences” if a user’s Mac is compromised by software. The security firm said 20,000 people had already downloaded the installer at the time of its alert.  As of now, Intego counts 1,000 more since the initial warning. As part of its update, Intego also says it has discovered a new variant of the same Trojan horse called “OSX.Trojan.iServices.B”, which can be found in pirated versions of Adobe Photoshop CS4.  This installer has already been downloaded by 5,000 people who are now at risk, the firm says. Once the administrator password is entered, a backdoor with root privileges is launched, copying the executable to /usr/bin/DivX and a startup item in /System/Library/StartupItems/DivX.  It then makes repeated connections to two IP addresses, according to Intego. A malicious user can then connect to the affected Macs and perform various actions and downloads remotely.  Intego predicts this Trojan horse may also be used to execute similar DDoS attacks.

Source: Apple Insider


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  1. Dr. Joe
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:18

    Good thing I dont have a Mac

  2. JantjeSmit
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:21

    Finally, the era of 'Mac are better than Windows because they are not susceptible to viruses' has come to an end.

  3. eleven
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:21

    It is not a virus, it's a Trojan.
    Meaning you have to excecute an Aplication, and then provide it with Admin user ans password in order to allow access…

    So, as it needs human permission to work, it is not a virus.

  4. Mads
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:24

    how do you know if you have the trojan on your mac?

  5. james
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:24

    shut up phaggot
    its a virus either way, you mac phaggin piece of shiet

  6. JantjeSmit
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:25


    Finally, the era of 'Mac are better than Windows because they are not susceptible to viruses/trojans/malware/etc' has come to an end.


  7. Sylky
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:29

    It was never about Macs not being able to get virus its that there are so few virus's for the them.

  8. WBotW
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:29

    "Finally, the era of 'Mac are better than Windows because they are not susceptible to viruses/trojans/malware/etc' has come to an end."

    Not really; now we know they're better because they're superior machines that are compatible with superior software.

  9. Yosonny
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:30

    @2 i think your referring to linux,.. macs have always been susceptible!

  10. topsite
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:35

    For those of you posted above, with clearly low comprehensive abilities, allow me to create a fundamental analogy for you.

    Consider a virus as a person breaking into your house and damaging your computer.

    Someone you know says 'Do I have permission to do something on your computer' – you say YES. Then they proceed to damage your computer.

    As you can clearly see, a virus is beyond your control, whereas for a trojan to function – you must give it permission, so really it's your own fault if you're dumb enough to fall for it.

  11. Jeffy
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:45

    Mac users are going back in the closet to hide…

  12. ilifer
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:47

    hey does anyone have a link to a version thats safe? ALSO
    when will the new iLife 09 drop? I'm really lookin foward to it. Anyone have any idea?

  13. Austin Powers
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:49

    April 1 already? Please. As any smarmy mac user (i.e. all of them) will tell you, this is utterly impossible.

    Dream on.

  14. seanb
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:50

    No No No, this must be a fake story

    Mac's are immune to viri! Seem i'm a smartass mac user, i pluralized virus correctly!

  15. The Truth
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:53

    "Not really; now we know they're better because they're superior machines that are compatible with superior software."

    Not really, j@ackass. MACS were only better about 10 year ago, when they actually came with built-in SCSI drivers and the PowerPC 604 processor. Back at that time, MACS were by far superior to PCS.

    Nowadays, you can build a much powerful PC than any MAC for less bucks.

    On the Laptops market, the fastest computer is actually the Mac Book Pro… Running Vista 64 (oh, the irony).

    Now you gonna tell me: "- Owning a MAC is not about numbers, it's about style and functionally."

    Give us a break and go back to smelling your own farts, you freakin b@stards.

  16. Stimpy
    January 26th, 2009 | 15:56


    A mac user in denial is an ugly thing.

  17. none
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:06

    The ONLY thing that kept viruses away was because Mac wasn't as popular as Windows; nothing more, nothing less.
    who wants to waste time to infect 1000 computers when he can use this time to write something that can spread across millions of computers?

    Blame Apple for releasing OSX (which is a nice O/S btw) and not staying on OS9.x :P

  18. stev0
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:06

    So this is basically one big bot net run by one individual :-(
    glad i dont run this software but who knows what other software downloaded from torrent sites has backdoors into you system greedy little xxxxxxx.

  19. The Voice
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:06

    @13 "smarmy mac user"

    This just about hits the nail on the head about macs.

  20. Lil Snitch
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:06

    That's why you have Little Snitch to inform you of outgoing connections.

  21. MacManG5
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:11

    Ok i saw the torrent before the worm was announced and i didn't download it cause it looked fishy but had the serial number in the info page on mininova so i downloaded the trial from apple directly and used the serial found on the info page on mininova and it worked, so if your looking to get the app then do as i did. Also be smart if something doesn't look right mac, windows, *nix then stay away from it. Its like someone u don't know saying they'll give you a ride to the mall or just the directions, what path would you choose?

  22. DjN
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:17

    "shut up phaggot
    its a virus either way, you mac phaggin piece of shiet"

    lol…your must be pretty stupid there is a difference and you are a "phaggin piece of shiet" for using a different OS? I have pc and mac i still prefer the mac even tho my pc specs are better?

  23. syscat
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:21


    Having a discusion about wethever somting is a torjan or not is ridiculous. Those terms are invented by comercial virus protection companies. The reason these companies have this strong seperation between worms torjans and viruses and other crap is beacusse they can let you buy more software to protect yourself. A antivirus, a torjan remover, and a worm disinfector.

  24. chris
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:22

    now thats something you dont see every day

  25. mbdc
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:24

    You PC fanboyz really care about us to come into a comments section that has nothing to do with you. how cute and caring!

  26. ak
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:26

    topsite who caes what's the difference.All you have to do is install that infected iwork ,which a few thousand mac user have done and your PC is someone whore,like many windows computers.
    A virus or a trojan can do as much damage on a Mac ,or linux arhitecture as it does in windows,becouse in windows under default conditions(if u run as admin which most user do),every application has kernel acces,while in Linux &MAc the OS is different from the applications.Still threats like this one ,password stealers,can run on linux&Mac too.

  27. Hugh Jardon
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:29

    As 99.99% of Mac users are mugs with more money than sense, they shouldn't be using pirate software in the first place!

  28. D.Harry
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:31

    Yeah, you PC phaggots ain't got pu*s*s*y to play with; that's why you hang out here. You coneheads !

  29. dfsfds
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:32

    Good thing i dont have a mac.

    Disgusting computers they are…yuck

    Emo's and their macs…Both in denial, both lose

  30. jojo
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:35

    what the? trojan on mac?

    oh my… i hope mac will fixed this soon, new security update will come right away,isn't it?

  31. on time
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:38

    January 23, 2009 – Las Vegas, Nevada – SecureMac is pleased to announce it has released iWorkServices Trojan Removal Tool, a free utility created to remove the iWorkServices Trojan from infected Macintosh computers running OS X.
    This tool is in response to a new trojan horse in the wild that comes bundled with pirated copies of Apple’s (AAPL) iWork 09. Intego recommends “users [do not] download iWork 09 installers from sites offering pirated software (As of 6 am EST, at least 20,000 people ha[d] downloaded this installer).”
    When infected copies of the iWork 09 installer are run, they install a hidden trojan program called iWorkServices with full access rights to the target computer. Once the trojan is installed, it will attempt to connect to a remote server and provide the server with the infected computer’s network location. It then listens for further instructions from the remote server, which may include instructions to download additional components.
    Users who feel they might be infected can use SecureMac’s free removal tool to remove the trojan horse. The removal tool can be downloaded by visiting SecureMac.com; Intego’s security alert is available at Intego.com in the News section.

    Article: http://macscan.securemac.com/iworkse…-os-x/#more-67

  32. chelmsley
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:41

    Gotta ask yourself who does this benefit the most? Such a high profile dangerous virus attack will scare the majority of newb's who get the stuff illegally. Its honestly sometimes easier to bootleg the software then buy it. So im sure they just got a lot more customers back into the fold and maybe scared some new potential bootleggers away from using pirated software. Especially companies.

    I wonder if Apple had anything at all to do with it, maybe a programmer who got (or made) a first copy of a program and popped that little program into it reupped and served it.

  33. Thrashie
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:46

    yawn… the neverending fight of itemX vs itemY

  34. Why?
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:49

    "SecureMac is pleased to announce it has released iWorkServices Trojan Removal Tool" Why? It's the idiot who downloaded the pirated software's fault in the first place… If you're gonna steal at least make sure you can do it safely.

  35. Daily Password
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:52
  36. Deaf Audiophile
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:53

    The difference between a virus and a trojan is very simple: a virus hacks the operating system, and a trojan hacks the human user.

    OS writers can do something about a virus, but there's very little to be done about a trojan.

  37. total warrior
    January 26th, 2009 | 16:54

    I thought Mac users did not download pirated software…

  38. jay
    January 26th, 2009 | 17:09

    January 26th, 2009 | 15:29
    "Finally, the era of 'Mac are better than Windows because they are not susceptible to viruses/trojans/malware/etc' has come to an end."

    Not really; now we know they're better because they're superior machines that are compatible with superior software.

    BULLS^%T!! It's the same program that the PC users have only instead of an .exe you have some dumb .dma extension…other then that the programs are identical. As a matter of fact, Windows recently released a MAC OS that runs very nice on a PC with no need for any VMWare or other master OS's. And a sneaky little fact about the new Windows 7 due out in June is that some of your MAC programs will run on this with no trouble, like Final Cut. And once people find they can run the video editing software on a PC, then why spend three times as much for a stupid MAC book? Jobs is smart, he is leaving Apple not only because he is sick, but he see's the future of computers and MAC's are just not in it. I give you less then 10 years before MAC vanishes like a fart in a high wind

    Oh and if you want to see the 4000+ viruses exclusivly for the MAC, then do a simple search on any AV site or just ask Apple and get ready for the shock of your life as even Kerpansky says that the viruses for MAC and Linux/Unix/Ubutu are increasing on a factor of 300 to 500 new viruses every six months. So keep whining that MAC cannot be hit with a virus or that there are none, and that is equal to waving a red flag in front of a ticked off bull.

    Oh and BTW, just tell the people at 2600 there are no viruses for the MAC/Linux/Unix/Ubutu and watch how fast they produce a 40 FREAKING PAGE LIST of viruses made just for the MAC alone, not counting the 38 page list of viruses for the Linux/Unix/Ubutu. When are you MAC butt munchers going to understand that you are not safe just because you run a MAC, I mean holy crap, just thee issues ago 2600 Mag showed a hack that gave Admin powers to anyone, and all it took was 10 keystrokes, and they show new MAC cracks every issue.

    Oh and btw, there is a site on the net that clearly shows new ways to break into MAC's as well as showing how bloody easy it is to infect these crapbooks! I'll give you a hint on it's name..it has the word 'security' in it. Happy hunting.

  39. tee
    January 26th, 2009 | 17:16
  40. Bizak
    January 26th, 2009 | 17:18

    Macs don't have viruses… if you never plug it in, but instead place it at the base of your Is@ck shrine and pray to it daily.

  41. jay
    January 26th, 2009 | 17:20

    I understand that the trojan iswhen you download the pirated software soif i downloaded the software as a trial version from apple and used a fake serial key that's safe right?

  42. Patt
    January 26th, 2009 | 17:23

    "Finally, the era of 'Mac are better than Windows because they are not susceptible to viruses/trojans/malware/etc' has come to an end."

    I like windows, but macs are superior in almost every way.

    Its like downloading with limewire vs rapidshare premium. Still windows has a couple of things going for them like office07 and Media Center.

    "The ONLY thing that kept viruses away was because Mac wasn't as popular as Windows; nothing more, nothing less."

    That is total rubbish. Macs are whole lot more secure than windows even with these recent threats.

    Still might be time to download an AV app.

  43. none
    January 26th, 2009 | 17:44

    I was wondering… Quick question to all the Mac users.

    If Apple allowed OSX out of the box, just like windows, to be installed on PCs, would you switch for a cheaper and more upgradable PC hardware rather than a Mac(intel)hardware as you are forced to do now to be able to use OSX?

  44. jay
    January 26th, 2009 | 17:45

    Apple tells Mac users: Get anti-virus
    Track this topic Print story Bragging rights diminish by 12% in face of growing threat
    By John Leyden
    Posted in Anti-Virus, 2nd December 2008 11:33 GMT

    Here is but a small list of MAC viruses
    Elk Cloner virus 1982
    nVIR virus 1987
    HyperCard virus 1988
    Garfield Virus 1990
    Concept 1995
    Laroux 1996
    Sevendust/666 1998
    The Renepo script worm attempted to disable Mac OS X security, downloaded hacking tools to affected computers, and gave criminals admin rights to the Apple Macintosh. Hackers also wrote a proof-of-concept program called Amphimix which demonstrated how executable code could be disguised as an MP3 music file on an Apple Mac. 2004

    Leap-A, the first ever virus for Mac OS X was discovered. Leap-A can spread via iChat. 2006

    The Inqtana worm and proof-of-concept virus soon followed. 2006

    Sophos discovered an OpenOffice multi-platform macro worm capable of running on Windows, Linux and Mac computers. The BadBunny worm dropped Ruby script viruses on Mac OS X systems, and displayed an indecent JPEG image of a man wearing a rabbit costume.

    Sophos reported the first financial malware for Mac. The gang developed both Windows and Mac versions of their malware. 2007

    and here are some from just last year (2008)
    Cybercriminals targeted Mac and PC users in equal measure, by planting poisoned adverts on TV-related websites. If accessed via an Apple Mac, surfers would be attacked by a piece of Macintosh scareware called MacSweeper.

    In June, the OSX/Hovdy-A Trojan horse was discovered that could steal passwords from Mac OS X users, open the firewall to give access to hackers, and disable security settings.

    Troj/RKOSX-A was discovered – a Mac OS X tool to assist hackers create backdoor Trojans, which can give them access and control over your Apple Mac computer.

    In November, Sophos warned of the Jahlav Trojan, and Apple issued a support advisory urging customers to run anti-virus software.

    Now, want to tell anyone again that there are no active MAC viruses or that no MAC viruses exist?

  45. johndoe
    January 26th, 2009 | 17:57

    Ha ha ha ha he ha ha he he ha ha … ha

  46. lapax
    January 26th, 2009 | 17:57

    Now people are gonna be even more wary of downloading whatever few pirated software available for apple. The winner is again apple (read $$).

  47. EvilWalks
    January 26th, 2009 | 17:59

    Good job. Most Mac owners are eliteist pricks.

  48. volchok
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:06

    so many envious people…

  49. chosen1
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:06

    Apple probably planted the trojan theirselfs :p

    I can only encourage such behavior instead of trying to sue every softwarepirate.

    don't forget that the trojans haven't been activated so it can also just be something to scare downloader off.

  50. Yawn
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:12

    Just proves mac isn't malware proof as so many mac users like to brag about. :P This is why you should only download software from trusted sites. :P

  51. hunter
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:19

    there are no virus for mac, or good games, or good programs, if nobody cares to make something for the mac then why they should make virus???? mac users should feel proud that at least somebody decided to make something that reached the media, it was a virus but at least it was something :D

  52. Frank
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:21

    Emo PC users : applause such great OS like Windows ME, VISTA… everybody knows how stable microsoft products are ;) … seriously you think that we'll change our LINUX or MAC OS to WINBLOWS basically in finding 1 or 2 viruses/trojan ?… Continue picking your nose Pissy users and let us have the OS that we need… and if i'm willing to pay more for less problems ? absolutely, so stop being jalous, play less and get a new job =)

  53. Jo32
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:25

    @51 do you have electricity at home ? you should check news more often…

  54. Stephen
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:28

    I think its a conspiracy, apple is tagreting pirates and are going to make a dtabase of them and will surprise prosecute us in like a years time. Maybe this is apple's way of takling piracy, by infecting its own macs. Then they will say sneakily that if they get that virus, the warenty will be broken as they can prove that they pirated the software.


    (Good thing I bought iWork and preorders iLife, so no viurses/conspiricies coming my way =P )

  55. S Daniels
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:28

    Apple did not plant the Trojan! The Trojan is ONLY in the BitTorrent versions of the software. Anyone, including myself, running a version downloaded with RapidShare, Megashares, MegaUpload or similar have no issues or Trojans.

    By the way, who invented BitTorrent, oh yeah PC users! One other note, I can run Vista and/or XP on my Mac side by side… can you do that with your PC?

    Any Mac users concerned simply open Terminal… /Application/Utilities/Terminal and at the command prompt type the following…

    MacBookPro:~ username$ cd /usr/bin

    Hit return, then type the following…

    MacBookPro:~ username$ ls -all

    Hit return, and scroll up look for the following… DivX

    If it's there you have it, even if you have DivX installed it DOES NOT create this directory :(
    FORMAT! That's all I would ever recommend in any Virus situation, FORMAT… even on a PC. A cancer patient in remission still has a greater risk than someone that has never been diagnosed with cancer. I apologize if my example offends anyone, but a virus is a serious situation.

  56. Johnny P
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:40

    "By the way, who invented BitTorrent, oh yeah PC users!"

    So you're not a Personal Computer user then.

    "I can run Vista and/or XP on my Mac side by side… can you do that with your PC?"

    Why do Mac users keep making this claim? The answer is yes and no. Legally we can't but only due to Apples licensing, technically we can and do. Wouldn't this make Microsoft the better company since they let you run Windows on what you want within reason.

    Oh and people really need to look up the definition of what Viruses and Trojans are.

  57. chelmsley
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:41

    S Daniels you cant argue whats better a pc or mac BECAUSE A MAC IS A PC. The only reason you can run mac and xp side by side IS BECAUSE YOU ARE USING A PC! Mac couldnt keep up with the tech so they became a trendy glorified Operating System supplier and used intel tech. Its now just XP vs MAC and i will say MAC is a much easier to use interface but the whole point of XP is scalability across multiple hardware which theirs no way in hell mac can do reliably they have enough problems intergrating nVidia drivers.

    Apple decided to give in and use ASUS made PC's that pound for pound are MUCH more expensive then a comparably equipped laptop. I would take a faster PC anyday, the MAC os although i havnt used that much i will say it is user friendly and it does have some great points, but the argument is mute as macs arent even macs theyre just an operating system.

  58. macccc
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:42

    Just so you know, if you downloaded this off Brokenstones you do NOT have the trojan….

  59. Macman
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:49


    I'm certainly an elitist prick. I have bought my first two Macs in the last year (iMac and Macbook) and they have been the happiest computing days of my life. 15 years of my life were wasted with swearing at, fixing Windows, BSOD, diagnosing and fixing PC hardware, installing antivirus software, spyware software and a dozen other band aid applications and then installing system utilities to (fruitlessly) bring the speed of a fresh install back.

    Recipe for a happy life=
    1. Bootcamp with Windows for gaming.

    2. OSX for everything else. Graphic work, Music creation, Web surfing, Media Center, Media Server, Video Editing, Email and anything else I feel like doing.

    Windows users (and I count myself amongst that number still) can make themselves feel better if with Schadenfeude if they want, but in my experience, it's Windows users that are the smug gits that don't want to climb down as clearly indicated here by the amount of comments from Mac haters.

    Incidentally, if you think this Trojan is on your machine, just go here:

  60. proud mac user
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:50

    Funny guys… if i would write a simple "format c" program, distribute it via torrent, tell users to run it, enter their administrator password and just wait – would u guys call it virus, trojan or a mistake within mac osx?! interesting…

    stay with windows if u like. after all: it is more advanced with games – so go ahead kiddies and play your counterstrike and wow. what a shame tho that u re so close minded

  61. lol
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:52

    lol they just try to scare people so they wont download :P

  62. Macman
    January 26th, 2009 | 18:54

    @ S Daniels.


    I apologise for shouting, but this is a simple problem to fix, that could even be left to run quite happily if you run a copy of Little Snitch that blocks any traffic you haven't authorised.

    Just go here:


    There is a removal program for this Trojan at the top of the news page.

  63. Johnny P
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:03

    Funny guys… if i would write a simple "format c" program, distribute it via torrent, tell users to run it, enter their administrator password and just wait – would u guys call it virus, trojan or a mistake within mac osx?! interesting…

    Trojan or if you want a catch all title malware.

  64. volchok
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:06

    i didn't know there were so many mac haters….envious people if u ask me…

  65. Phobos
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:06

    So please, give me 3 points in wich MAC beats Windows by a long distance

  66. fu windows user
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:14

    here are 3: stability, security, usability (took me about 3 seconds)

  67. Steve
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:16

    I'm not gonna say I told you so.

    but I told you so.


  68. Tard SPNAKer!
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:21

    Macs used to be good for nothing but DTP. Now Quark Xpress is available for PC, they're simply totally redundant (& overpriced) machines for llama Jobs fanboiz – most of whom don't even know they're simply running *NIX on a teletubbies GUI…

  69. yeah sure
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:21


    Incorrect and a fairly poor analogy.
    A virus is a piece of code whose primary objective is to replicate as much as possable and secondary objective is to deliver a payload.

    A trojan is a piece of code that opens up a vulnerability for an external source to exploit, user permission control has nothing to do with it.
    A trojan can quite simply set its own permissions to allow it access without even the slightest inclination from your average user.

    VNC for instance can be classified as a trojan, in that it can be installed onto a system and executed without the user being aware, then allow another user to directly control that unit.

  70. 66 is the fail
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:28

    Usability? You mean you can just pick it up and know what to do instantly? My grandmom can use a PC after 1 day, but still doesn't know how to use the MAC after a month. No, don't think so, try again…

  71. nugget2407
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:35

    @68 Tard SPNAKer!

    You really are a Tard SPNAKer! if you think Quark Xpress is the pinnacle of layout design. Have you not heard of a small company called Adobe and InDesign?

    Didn't realise the hate that PC users have pent up with regards Mac users. Get some psycho help, please! lol

  72. DonJuan
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:38

    Note to RLSlog staff, here's a address thats hijacking your site..it just redirected me away.

  73. heheheYo
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:38

    i think the companies might have somehow done it as an anti piracy measure!

  74. nugget2407
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:39

    @70 66 is the fail

    Your grandma's an idiot!

  75. E71
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:40

    That's what y'all get for "Thinking different"!

  76. expc
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:40

    Those of you that hate mac`s never touched one or can`t afford one, is that simple. I had pc before mac and there is not even 1 thing that I can say bad aboute my mac. It works now the same way it worked on the day I unboxed it, and it never sleeps it is online almost 24/7. now their is a troyan for mac uuuuuu i`m so scared how many are for windows ? And so what if there is a troyan for mac ? Anti-virus protection for macs exist, so what seems to be he problem? You think people only buy macs because there are less viruses ?
    So my message to all those mac-haters is to try a mac, you will never want to be a pc user ever again, I know I will never go back to pc.

  77. VIP
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:51

    Mac is a good OS, but the people should download the program, just go to the apple website, download the trial version and use one valid serial…what's the problem??

  78. Windoze
    January 26th, 2009 | 19:51


    "That's what y'all get for "Thinking different"!"

    Really? One very public trojan that I have to explicity install myself as opposed to 100,000's of viruses that only need to have a popup in Internet Explorer to install… silently?

    Mac users certainly seem to spend more time thinking and less time fixing, that's for sure.

  79. The Truth
    January 26th, 2009 | 20:00

    Here's what i think about MAC enthusiasts:



    Bottom line: MACs are made for dumb people.

  80. eleven
    January 26th, 2009 | 20:18


    Actually, the discussion in ALL About if it is a Virus or not.

    Would you lame PC user consider this a virus?:
    @echo off
    format c: /y
    echo Your computer formatting has been complete. Good-bye

    Offcourse not,

  81. Sushie The Chug
    January 26th, 2009 | 20:23

    syscat thank u for teaching that noober. The terms "Trojan" & "Virus" are VERY VAGUE & dont define anything but categorize a massive group of code that can cause harm to your pc. The term "HACKER" is another example. either way the end user will be running something on his/her machine to recieve anything that can cause damage or other various annoyances. trojan does not classify that the user has to login to anything, it is usually refered to completely the opposite. the person gaining access to the users machine by allowing himself/herself (ah who am I kidding a girl) to log into the machine. again this is just common thought, there is no exact definition but a grouping of various types of malware. a computer virus again is just a term for all types of code that are malicious.

  82. GEoMaNTiK
    January 26th, 2009 | 20:27

    Something dodgy about the alert, sounds like a 25th Anniversary Apple present to protect their business for the next 25 years from the surge of mac pirates who just discovered they can downlaod illegal content.

    Smart move from Apple, will definitely bring the fanboys back into line like good little Mac users.

  83. lol
    January 26th, 2009 | 20:29

    you stupid nubs. Mac is just as easy to get malware on as windows. In fact, it's much easier to own someone who uses Mac as they know nothing about the Unix architecture and what is going on. You'll be like "hmm what's this "drxhook" loaded? hmm i better leave it there", etc.

  84. The real solution
    January 27th, 2009 | 22:40

    Get an E-meter. Audit yourself.

  85. tienzing
    January 27th, 2009 | 23:44

    I betcha' Apple most likely released the TROJAN themselves, so people wouldn't pirate these softwares! and its only a trojan really, not a virus!

  86. jeffy
    January 27th, 2009 | 23:56

    First apple queer: You look down in the dumps. What's eating you? Second apple queer: A virus, I think.

  87. Ron
    January 28th, 2009 | 00:13

    Vista has UAC which is not a boundaries protection system and has a defective implementation. For example, each and every installer running on vista must run under full access. Which means that an installer launched by any user gets the ability to even modify the kernel. See Joanna Rutkowska blog for details.

    On an Unix system however, you can't possibly screw more than your own account without admin password.

    That's just only one reason of many on why there are no virus for unix systems, while there are 100s of thousands for Windows.

    A Mac is a PC slightly modified (eg: no BIOS) but the main difference is that aims more to stability and quality control than speed. People keeps comparing compiz vs Quartz (clue: google DRI2), and PCs with Mac Pros (clue: a workstation is not a gaming PC).

  88. gHoul
    January 28th, 2009 | 00:19

    PC users pay the bills… Mac users make websites for their cats.

    Sr. UI Developer – 120k+ a year… PC ONLY!

  89. Children?
    January 28th, 2009 | 00:29

    The PC/Mac argument is infantile. Seriously, how many years has this been going on? Why do you feel the need justify your purchase either way? Just shut up.

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  91. Edward
    January 28th, 2009 | 00:54

    I started out a Linux user, as I coudl never afford Mac growing up, and Windows was to expensive as well. I moved to Mac when i got some cash, nice computer, I started using windows about 2 years ago, and have not looked back. Main reason, JOB, i make more money developing on Windows, than I ever could on the other 2 combined. What is my take on it all? Now that Macs just use Intel, which I have hated since day one anyway, as I have always and will forever prefer AMD & nVidia, I see no use in spending the money on one. I have 12 computers in my house, most run XP. No infections since I have owned windows. If i had 1 reason, not to get a mac, and get a PC, its becuase I love AMD and have always hated Intel.

  92. Crossover Games
    January 28th, 2009 | 01:16

    PC gaming idiots. just download Crossover Games. it doesnt support ALL the PC only games but it does support the more popular ones. You dont really need bootcamp, you just have to know what you can do on a mac.

    and if you are a mac hater, i bet you've never tried a mac before (like really tried? like using it for almost everything?) so stop being whiney and stfu!

    oh yeah. http://www.securemac.com/ <– never been easier to remove a trojan.

    on your windows. i wonder how d hell you could remove a stupid virus. Reformat? well boo hoo for you.

  93. gHoul
    January 28th, 2009 | 01:26

    I'm glad Apple stopped trying to make crap hardware and finally realized… Hey those PC's are pretty fast! lets switch to Intel chips! SGI did the same thing Mac did switching to Intel and now we have the "fastest Mac's ever made" go figure! we have been using these since day one nubs! my big hatred to Apple is how fast they change their mind with hardware standards and when they make their own rounded DVI connectors and their own USB cable that has a little notch so you can only plug it into an old mac. It reminds me of Sony who makes their own battery's their own memory and don't follow any sort of hardware standard… I'm sure Apple will make it's own bluetooth soon and 802.11n like their PCIx they stopped supporting and when they only used SCSI drives and maybe they will change eSATA to some mac xSATA and only support that! you will never know with Apple… enjoy your disposable paper weights

  94. Dubya Doofus
    January 28th, 2009 | 01:36

    @ Mac Users:

    Seeing as you know Jack about the operating systems used by 99% of businesses, enjoy your job at MAC-Donalds!

    "Can I super-price you?"


  95. Cletus
    January 28th, 2009 | 01:56

    I dont think anyone ever claimed that Macs were superior to PC's but rather, that people that own Macs are superior in intelligence and other ways to people that use/own Pc's . This ,of course, is a fact that has been proven with a study conducted, and cant be argued. Hope this clears everything up

  96. @3 you stupid
    January 28th, 2009 | 03:22

    trojans are virus

    "It is not a virus, it's a Trojan.
    Meaning you have to excecute an Aplication, and then provide it with Admin user ans password in order to allow access…

    So, as it needs human permission to work, it is not a virus."

  97. Hmmmm
    January 28th, 2009 | 09:25

    @ 2 lmfao effin' co-sign I said that before I even clicked to read this post.

  98. Woops you got me annoyed.
    January 28th, 2009 | 11:02

    The Mac vs PC war is like a never ending fight. with on once side, the mac users who want to tell the world how good is their Mac and even try to push people into buying Macs in some case, and on the other side, the annoyed PC users who tell them to STFU because they don't give a damn about Mac.

    If Macs were really this good, EVERYONE would be using a mac by now.

    the funny thing about Mac users, it's that from ALL the Mac people I've met or know(n), only a handful are honest objective people; the others are pompous elitist freaks who would kill just because you don't think the same as they do. ie: you don't like Mac.

    OSX is good, just that most Mac users (and the Apple company marketing tactics) are just moronic Narcissistic freaks that give a very bad image to the remaining good people who like Macs and aren't trolls. Some of you Mac users need to stop worshiping Jobs and give more credit to somebody who also deserves it; Steve Wozniak.

    AND stop worshiping a company that could be a LOT worse than Microsoft. If Apple was a good company, it wouldn't silently downgrade the quality of the hardware they sell to higher their profit margin. Or even sell Imacs with crappy hardware in it at a high price.

    … and, just for the record, I'm really not a Mac hater, neither I'm a PC lover.

  99. Jabba Pink
    January 28th, 2009 | 17:38

    Hi – I'm a PC! And ROCK and RULE – ALL DAY LONG!
    Hi – I'm a mac. I'm a threat to internet pirates. Harr harr! XD

  100. lex
    January 28th, 2009 | 21:52

    what about pc users who installed photoshop cs4 ? was there a windows version of that mac trojan?

  101. Tard SPNAKer!
    January 29th, 2009 | 01:04

    lex, you're a cretin of the first water…

  102. lex
    January 29th, 2009 | 04:23

    >tard spnaker > insults, first refuge of the uneducated man!
    va lire un livre ignard d'americain!

  103. common sense
    January 29th, 2009 | 04:42

    You MAC Butt Boys need to get a life. Maximum PC did a test between MAC and PC just last year and since they dont take advertisements so they dont have to kiss any a^s and can tell it how it is…and guess what twits; PC stomped the heck out of MAC in every catagory including ease of use as well as what you can do with the programs written for it, in fact Adobe Premier Pro in Adobe CS4 beat the heck out of MAC's Final Cut Pro.

    So sorry dweebs, your MAC fanzine is losing steam and will soon die when the world uncerstands that MAC's just cannot keep up with PC's anymore. And before you say squat, I did have a MAC PC and used it for about a year and gave it away and bought a PC and have never looked back as I have found the PC programs to be far superior to the MAC programs

  104. Enjoy Yourself
    January 29th, 2009 | 23:10


    If Apple and the Mac are losing steam, could someone please answer why they were one of the only tech companies in the world not to post a devastatingly disappointing quarter?

    The majority of comments here are just infantile. Windows users have benefited for years from cross-pollination of ideas taken from Apple and vice-versa. The fact that the hardware now differs very little is immaterial. If "nubs" and "fanboiz" want to waste their money on a "teletubbies GUI" who gives a monkeys? Windows users can cite reports of better speed and cheaper custom builds and ubiquity and Mac users can harp on about better speed, reliable builds and security through obscurity.

    Reviews will always be skewed, results rely on interpretation and opinions will always be the author's own.

    I've used Windows computers since the day 3.1 came out and PCs way back into the early DOS days. Do I find them delightful and a joy to use today? Compared with what they were like, sure. In comparison to my recent experiences of OSX? Surely not!

    Competition makes these massive companies look over their shoulder. Linux isn't threatening Microsoft's foothold and many would argue that OSX isn't either. But you can guarantee that the presence of this sort of competition in the marketplace makes your chosen platform better than it would otherwise be.

    Anybody claiming that one is better than the other for whatever reason, is just making noise. Enjoy what years of competition have given you today.