New Linux system by Red Hat
Red Hat Inc. has unveiled the latest version of its Linux operating system as the open-source software company continues to combat Microsoft’s market-dominating Windows platform. Developers for the Raleigh-based company touted Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 as more flexible and more manageable than its prior versions, and said they worked for two years on the product. “Our customers are an integral part of the development process,” said Paul Cormier, Red Hat’s executive vice president for engineering, echoing the open-source tenet that users be allowed to view and edit the software’s code.
The new operating system supports “virtualization,” which Red Hat said will help companies consolidate their technology workload onto one server – saving energy, space and money. “Customers have figured out that they’ve got rooms full of racks and servers,” said Nick Carr, the marketing director for the operating system. “They’re taking up heat and power and space, but they’re only 15 percent loaded. They want to know how they can use what they have more efficiently.” Along with the new Linux product, Red Hat launched several new service programs to help companies migrate their data centers to Linux and to help customers get support for a variety of different open-source programs. Red Hat’s business model is based around service. Unlike Microsoft’s proprietary software, Red Hat delivers its products for free but makes money by selling subscription packages for service. Although I found various Linux distributions very interesting, I still think that Microsoft’s Windows are the best option for common use.
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p00nage… i guess…
“Although I found various Linux distributions very interesting, I still think that Microsoft’s Windows are the best option for common use.”
Martin, pls, do yourself a favour, try ubuntu and then come back to windows bloatware.
If it were not for games, which you can almost perfectly get on a console, i would have swithced all of my computers to linux. Most are already running on linux and the difference is they simply work. Stop. No viruses, no stupid wga, no stupid license issue, no crazy hardware requirements, software that works, communtiy ready to help you out, network support A +.
What else?
well yeah, it works better than windows usually. BUT.
1) you need to do a terrible load of configs first
2) you need to find all drivers for Linux, or eventually even make them / edit on your own
3) you are limited in use of more professional software
4) you don’t enjoy all these weekly updated included in Windows
of course you have some truth, but for example my home computer is running windows XP for about 3 years with no reinstall or some virus problems. it’s only about how you set it up…
believe it or not
Yeah having to compile your own binary installer for the latest nvidia driver makes alot of sense for average users.
Martin you picked a bad topic, there is no way this can be a discussion, it’s always gonna be linux rules, windows sux, blah blah blah blah.
Try ubuntu, try fedora core, try them all, it’s the same fucking deal unless you want to get into scripting, linux is NOT the best solution for the average user, period. Anyone arguing that point is a fanboy plain and simple.
No virii ? you sir are an idiot, linux has more exploits than windows could hope to have, but Like I’ve said a million times they win wecause it’s open source, mostly, and thousands of people make a fix instead of denying the root problem.
“If it were not for games, which you can almost perfectly get on a console,”
You can’t be serious. Seriously, you can’t actually believe that crap. Well if so share some of the crack with the rest of us it must be good.
“No viruses, no stupid wga, no stupid license issue, no crazy hardware requirements, software that works, communtiy ready to help you out, network support A +.”
To save you a little face, instead of proving you completely wrong outright, how about youst back up some of those BS claims. The only one you are correct about is WGA.
He said virii you fucking moron, not exploit.
I don’t want to flame but i have to answer back to you.
Yeah having to compile your own binary installer for the latest nvidia driver makes alot of sense for average users.
driver for ati and nvidia in ubuntu:
graphical installer:
http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
Martin you picked a bad topic, there is no way this can be a discussion, it’s always gonna be linux rules, windows sux, blah blah blah blah.
Windows has its best (commercial software, games) , linux its own: stability, freedom, free as in beer.
Try ubuntu, try fedora core, try them all, it’s the same fucking deal unless you want to get into scripting, linux is NOT the best solution for the average user, period. Anyone arguing that point is a fanboy plain and simple.
Why don’t you try? try slackware and then try ubuntu, see some difference? No? Must be blind. Maybe if you want fine tuning, scripting is ok, but not certainly needed.
No virii ? you sir are an idiot, linux has more exploits than windows could hope to have, but Like I’ve said a million times they win wecause it’s open source, mostly, and thousands of people make a fix instead of denying the root problem.
I can tell you are not so smart, but i’m not here to insult you. Linux installs something like 3 THOUSAND different softwares when default install (varies on different distros) windows install operating system and something else. Do i have to remember that Microsuck itself advise you to run an antivirus? It would be like you car seller who advice you: this is a nice car but you might think about some ambulance always following you, in the unlucky event of a car crash (OMG!!!!). And, by the way, what the heck would be the root problem you are talking about?
“If it were not for games, which you can almost perfectly get on a console,”
You can’t be serious. Seriously, you can’t actually believe that crap. Well if so share some of the crack with the rest of us it must be good.
Nice part of the comment, very primary school like. No answer and just flaming. Troll school must require exercises then…
“No viruses, no stupid wga, no stupid license issue, no crazy hardware requirements, software that works, communtiy ready to help you out, network support A +.”
To save you a little face, instead of proving you completely wrong outright, how about youst back up some of those BS claims. The only one you are correct about is WGA.
License issues man! You can share and download on p2p networks, but when someone come smashing your door at 5 am in the morning what are you gonna do? Cry and pee on yourself, you must think that if p2p is legal, sharing and using copyrighted stuff is NOT legal (and yes, i know it too): in serious businesses people are switching from win (or commercial unix) to linux even because of licensing issues. Serious business cannot rely on next scene release, they have to buy software to provide real backup support, not some kind of “wait and see the problem will eventually disappear in next release”.
Talking about hardware requirements, i think you should know something about vista or windows server 2003? Requirements high like Everest mountain. Try run vista on 256 MB and not swapping like a fool monkey.
@ wtf I’m still trying to figure out what your long winded ramble has to do with me, still awaiting some basic facts. And I really don’t mean this as an insult but I’m assuming english isn’t your first language as half of your statment doesn’t make a bit of sense. And in the future don’t bother quoting the entire comment, just direct your hatred at me with the @ symbol at the top of your post.
“No viruses” should I have spelt it wrong aswell would that make it easier for you?
As for licensing, you my friend need a brain. Until you are working in industry bite me. I’ve been here for a while now and I can tell you I’ve seen 1, count it again ONE, company roll out linux. Now when you get into countries in Europe it’s the opposite, finding a windows only company would probably take awhile. I know the company my friend is at in Ireland uses linux and macs only.
Anyways, wtf is your little rant about p2p suppsoed to mean? Doesn’t make any sense, you wanna argue feel free but atleast form a complete thought in there somewheres. REally you need to clearify wtf you actually meant there cause I’m english only and that doesn’t make any sense in relation to the rest of your post, or even the paragraph it was in.
AGain it’s hard for me to argue with some kid without a clue. You obviously don’t know how business works, do you honestly think multinational companies are using pirate software? You’d an idiot if so, most are using XP right now, which they only rolled out a few years ago. We are currently doing some basic Vista roll outs here but it’s the feasiblity test. Certain people in government want it, we HAVE to provide it, and atleast it gives us a chance to see how it interacts with the rest of our domain. If you are curious, not very well.
Fact is, the only linux distros I’ve seen in use by major companies in North America is Suse, and it’s NOT opensource.
And hardware requirements? Once again do your own homework, server 2003 will run on hardware XP WON’T EVEN INSTALL TOO.
And who’s talking Vista? Vista is crap bloatware and has nothing to do with this discussion.
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4468049269.html
http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT3307459975.html
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS2038211344.html
I happen to like linux, and I do use several different distros at home. The thing I don’t like is people like you. Complete fanboys. Tell the facts don’t keep these BS myths floating around.
I use windows linux AND mac so you can ATTEMPT to call me a fanboy, but you will fail.
It’s rather funny one of the things the admins here used to joke about was linux, if everyone switched to linux we’d be out of work, nothing to maintain or fix.
To a point that statement is true, but blindly going about telling people just having linux on their machine makes them safer is bullshit and you know it. Any windows machine can be secured just as tight as a linux box if the time and steps are taken, just like the few problems with linux are easily addressed following the same advice.
@queef i await your first usefull post with anticipation
@ phishybongwaters
again, if you want to insult me, pls you are welcome.
But if you refer to me like “ou my friend need a brain”, “some kid without a clue”, ecc.
These i think are the facts:
first article : deals with security practices
Deadly sin No. 1: Using weak and default passwords.
windows boxes have almost no password and ehm, guest account anyone?
Deadly sin No. 2: Leaving network ports open.
windows firewall or other commercial software always need to be updated, think about the reason. Because windows hackers or crackers or virus writers always find something wrong in windows system. Always.
Deadly sin No. 3: Running old software versions.
try to update windows software or commercial software in 24 48 hours, cause you said you are in “the industry”. Go ask Microsoft a quick fix for a critical flaw.
Deadly sin No. 4: Running insecure and badly configured programs.
a sysadmin who runs apache as root should be fired in moments. As someone who runs exchange without properly configure firewall in front.
Deadly sin No. 5: Having insufficient resources and misplaced priorities.
non technical, clearly stated in the article.
Deadly sin No. 6: Failing to delete stale and unnecessary accounts.
You can setup, and ubuntu server does it by DEFAULT, not logging in user accounts will be disabled.
second article: deals with virus on linux but if you read it, not only just google for linux virus, you can read:”As system administrators move to Linux files servers they have a real problem to deal with since the Linux file server can store Windows-based viruses” , that meaning if you use linux as a file -mail server you can use it to transmit and spread virus to windows workstations,linux WILL NOT BE INFECTED. Plain, simple, clear.
third article: system administration article. Can you guess even unix / linux need sysadmin? But is way different than installing / reinstalling windows licences….
Your other part of comment is completely troll-like. Can0t you read it? Forget it.
Let’s close this down to this:
win2003 requirements:
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition
Component Requirement
Computer and processor
PC with a 133-MHz processor required; 550-MHz or faster processor recommended; support for up to four processors on one server
Memory
128 MB of RAM required; 256 MB or more recommended; 4 GB maximum
Hard disk
1.2 GB for network install; 2.9 GB for CD install
Drive
CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive
Display
VGA or hardware that supports console redirection required; Super VGA supporting 800 x 600 or higher-resolution monitor recommended
Winxp :
PC with 300 megahertz or higher processor clock speed recommended; 233 MHz minimum required (single or dual processor system);* Intel Pentium/Celeron family, or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended
128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum supported; may limit performance and some features)
1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space*
Super VGA (800 x 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and monitor
CD-ROM or DVD drive
Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device
dsl linux:
* Boot from a business card CD as a live linux distribution (LiveCD)
* Boot from a USB pen drive
* Boot from within a host operating system (that’s right, it can run *inside* Windows)
* Run very nicely from an IDE Compact Flash drive via a method we call “frugal install”
* Transform into a Debian OS with a traditional hard drive install
* Run light enough to power a 486DX with 16MB of Ram
* Run fully in RAM with as little as 128MB (you will be amazed at how fast your computer can be!)
* Modularly grow — DSL is highly extendable without the need to customize
MAC OSX owns windows bullshit
you have BSD, open source software, and it can be easy to people who cant even plug the power cord and it can be advanced for people u like doing thinks the hard way =)
Martin:
1) you need to do a terrible load of configs first
2) you need to find all drivers for Linux, or eventually even make them / edit on your own
3) you are limited in use of more professional software
4) you don’t enjoy all these weekly updated included in Windows
1) Huh? It’s year 2007, not 1999
2) WTF, see above
3) because free/open means it’s not professional?
4) we enjoy updates too, just in a better way (because all software is handled by single system)
Just because you’re used to Windows it doesn’t mean it’s easier. I have installed both Windows and Ubuntu Linux on my grandfather’s computer (started using it at age 70, he wasn’t able to install any OS anyway) and he prefers Ubuntu because it’s easier and more accessible. Try explaining a computer newbie how to install codecs in Windows, it’s not “easy”.
minime:
OSX is a closed epitome of bloatware. Only kernel is open-source. Yeah, it’s easy but it’s also very limiting because of that. UNIX internals of OSX is bullshit, it doesn’t even come with most required tools, filesystem layout is totally different and good luck trying to compile some software.
har har i r upset u find me unresourceful, dumbfuck.
im waiting for the new ubuntu
Ubuntu requires nearly zero config. The only config you need to do as an average user is change you’re wallpaper. The only place linux looses is in games and the fact that windows users want things to work like windows. Otherwise it wins in everything else.
These complaints about drivers are moot. On ubuntu I have only ever had to install nvidia drivers, which was as simple as double clicking on the .bin file. Otherwise everything else was working from install.
Wireless networking is easier (if your card is supported). Just run networkmanager, you will be suprised at how nice it is.
I installed Linux once… it didn’t seem to know what my mouse was, or how to connect to the internet.
So I went back to Windows. Linux sucks ass, unless you’re some kind of masochist.
miscz said: “..Try explaining a computer newbie how to install codecs in Windows, it’s not “easy”…”
Light shone through the Heavens and someone created what became known as.. “A Codec Pack”
http://www.cccp-project.net/
How is installing something like this NOT easy?
Click OK > Click OK > Click OK > Click Finish…
ok after reading the comments i know what i always knew.
windows xp sp2 with FW and good AV is better to me than any linux distribution out there.
what’s the point using linux?
to surf the web? xp can&does.
listen to music, watching movies? xp can&does.
downloading movies and reading rlslog? xp can&does.
playing games linux will never had? xp can&does it better.
linux is important, but can’t offer to me something xp doesn’t.
@#17 R1pper
I essentially agree with what you are saying. Linux is important, as anyone knows alternatives to the mainstream product are a necessity of life.
I myself have used Suse linux for a few weeks. It just didn’t do anything Windows didn’t already do for me. Games, Internet, Movies, Music, Professional programs (e.g. Adobe, Autocad, etc.)
p.s. During those few weeks I got the bastard to crash, just once.
I develop for linux and Windows, and am proudly not a fanboy of either.
The idiots who claim that there are no virii/spyware for linux, BSD, OS X, or other non-Windows systems are misleading everyone. The only reason that there aren’t more viruses is because the market share is so low for those operating systems that nobody creates a virus. All mentioned operating systems are as susceptible as Windows to viruses and spyware – get a clue. If the roles were reversed, and Windows had very low market share, *IT* would be nearly virus free and the argument would be reversed.
Btw, fanboys are extremely annoying. They are just like Evangelists Christians – they want to covert EVERYONE to their personal choice in operating systems. The fact is that different people have different needs and have different operating system preferences.
If you like linux, great. I do too, but I also appreciate Windows. Microsoft has a lot more responsibility and customers than any other software company and aren’t doing so bad considering that. It’s easy to be a critic.
Now, quit trying to convert EVERYONE to your preferences. Usually it backfires on you anyway since people get defensive. I for one am tired of hearing from the linux fanboys who really have no clue about anything and just believe themselves to be cooler than Windows users.
As a developer for both operating systems, I do know the facts, and I do know that neither opeating system is inherently superior to the other.
Lastly, the people who are saying linux uses so less resources than Windows are misleading people, again. Sure, if you DO LESS with it, it uses less resources. A linux system set up to provide the same functionality as a Windows install will use approximately the same about of RAM.
I actually find linux to be less responsive on application launch than Windows, likely due to the many optimizations to improve application load time in Windows that are not found on linux. But, linux is nice and has its merits.
Ah, why do I bother. Fanboys just annoy me so much with their ignorant evangelism.
oh, and ‘wtf’, your arguments are all completely clueless propoganda. You clearly don’t want to be objective. You think linux is perfect I bet, right? lol..
Someone with a fucking brain, bravo.
thanks.
but dbcch is cool also.
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what’s the point using linux?
Microsoft Sucks!!!!
hrm… another clash of the Os’s . I cant even begin to read all these long winded comments. BeOS would of been good if it was still continued, but in it’s time it had lots of good ideas and a long ways to mature into something with more potential than windows or linux.
http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Holy_war
I don’t know what kind of programmer you are, dbcch, but most of your comments are clueless BS that you are pulling out of your beloved Microsoft PR material. $100 says you have NEVER developed a REAL application on BSD or Linux in your life.
I highly suspect you are a Windows developer trying to defend their position and income. (I see lots of them hang around forums, slashdot, mailinglist, etc, etc, etc. Blindly defending Microsoft when the overall tone of the thread goes sour.)
(1) dbcch’s comment about malware…
The view that “I’m more popular, so I get attacked more easily” is TOTAL BULLSHIT.
You are re-echoing Microsoft PR talk. They delibrately make trivial comments in their defense. Of course, no software is perfect! But does that mean you use it as an excuse to continue your path of poor design decisions and compromises?
How do you explain Apache vs MS’s solution? The alternative solution owns about 2/3rds of the web server market and is attacked less? And for the majority of those installations, they are Linux-based.
FACT: Microsoft HAS to make security compromises to make life easier for the clueless desktop user.
Why do you think everything is executable?
Why do you think they put UAC in Windows Vista?
FACT: Microsoft will NEVER solve their security issues properly. That is, they will NEVER re-write solutions to completely get rid of their fundamental security problems.
Have a think about that the next time a Windows security update is released, that re-addresses the same application with the same type of bug. (You can’t deny this, because I actively get MS security bulletins via email since 2002).
FACT: Microsoft can only release “band-aids” as security solutions. This is simply because it will take them TOO LONG to re-write and solve everything. Its quicker and cheaper just to keep throwing out band-aids. Band-aids DO NOT solve the problem. They merely delay the inevitable! They provide a false sense of security.
ie:
* UAC does not solve the fundamental issue that everything in Windows executable.
* OneCare Live does not solve the issues of Windows’s ability to be highly resistant to malware. Nor does it educate the user with good computing practices. All it does is ask for MONEY!
* The security features in Vista, implemented to protect Internet Explorer do NOT protect IE itself. Sandboxing is not an active solution. Its a reactive solution, because MS doesn’t want to waste time re-writing the application.
FACT: Microsoft’s design decisions aren’t always logical. Unlike Linux or BSD, there is no weenie in upper management that specifically and continually asks for a feature, which eventually turns out to be a big flop from the end-user’s view or a security concern.
MS’s designs are overcomplicated. If you want security, you need simplicity and clean code. These offer a much easier maintenance policy.
IF you claim you’ve programmed in BSD, you know that OpenBSD follows this regime. Their source code is clean, easy to maintain, and see bugs. So much so, while MS is dragging its nuts around monthly with patches, the OpenBSD team can address security concerns within hours. (The quickest I’ve seen them do is 4 hours of being notified).
This alone utterly shits on MS’s update policy.
Have you not noticed they dropped this month’s security patches? Even though every single version that is supported has a security issue!
FACT: Microsoft only does “just enough” to get by. Its been their business for over 20yrs. Do just enough, make the users feel like their secure and happy, charge them money and move on…Until a cracker or researcher comes along to demonstrate there is a flaw in their design.
Linux and BSD are more secure for three reasons.
(a) The user becomes educated over time.
Have you ever seen a Linux or BSD malware spread like Windows malware have? Have you ever seen an application that teaches a user how to harden their Windows boxes? Teach them what to look for when it comes to fake email?
(b) Their design goals aren’t hampered by clueless management idiots. (Nor are they purely motivated by money)
(c) They aren’t hampered by “train schedule” security update policies. If there is a problem, there is always an urge to address the issues within days. NOT MONTHLY nonsense.
(2) dbcch’s comment about resources is total nonsense.
Linux has better memory management than Windows. You realise this when you run out of RAM, and you see Windows use swap MUCH SOONER than Linux will. (That’s when your hard disk thrashes like crazy. Sometimes, if you set both systems with 256MB swap, you see Windows will quickly notify the user to see if its OK to make it LARGER! You don’t even do that in Linux or BSD!)
A typical desktop user on Linux will see they hardly hit 512MB RAM.
I’ve tested this using Firefox with 50 windows and tabbed windows open, 20 of which are at Youtube, Google, and Apple Movie Trailers (Quicktime)…All videos running. Azureus with SafePeer, aMule (Linux version of emule), Moblock (Same idea as PeerGuardian), OpenOffice’s Writer and Calc, Cinelerra (video editing), Matlab (Linux version), VariCAD (engineering CAD solution), with that stupid AIGLX/Beryl desktop effects fully enabled, both MPlayer and VLC media players playing two different movies…All at the same time.
And what do they recommend for Vista nowadays? 1GB to 2GB to run smoothly?
Not only is it a waste of resources, it also contributes to the environment. People WILL throw out old PCs and get new ones…Landfill. Ever been to China? Some areas are now dumping grounds for old systems, used toners, etc. The people there don’t know what to do with it, so they strip off all the stuff they can recycle, but burn all the stuff they can’t. Guess what comes out of that? Toxic fumes into the atmosphere.
You know those stupid desktop effects that both OSs have?
Linux can run them ALL on an old Nvidia TNT, but its really slowly. To improve things, you need a GF2MX as bare minimum. I can run it on my ThinkPad using an old Mobility Radeon 7500.
So what’s on the Windows side? What do you need to run Aero? Hmmm? Oh that’s right, you need a DirectX 9 compatible solution to get the “Full Vista Experience”. (And that’s only on selected versions).
You want to know what Linux offers me?
(1) No more defrag HDD and registry clean ups.
(2) When I run update, I update my whole system. That’s because everything I need is handled by the package manager and the distro’s repositories. (Most people are led to believe you need to compile EVERYTHING. That’s WRONG. You don’t compile anything unless you really need to).
In Windows, it only updates Office, Windows, and related. NOT third party apps. You’re on your own.
(3) No more pointless anti-piracy measures. (I want you folks to think about that the next time you look for a crack or serial).
(4) The OS is mine. I own it. I can do whatever I want with it. (In Windows, you PAY for the right to use it. YOU DO NOT OWN IT…Its NOT yours!)
(5) Flexibility. Something Windows will NEVER have.
If you want server, you need to get Win2k3 Server. If you want media center, you need MCE. If you want embedded, you need WinCE. In Linux, you add and remove bits that you need and don’t need. If I don’t like it, I re-compile and tweak whatever I want. I don’t sign some NDA with Microsoft or do some deal with them, to access the source code.
(6) NO monetary or income discrimination.
If you want to use Windows virtualization scenario, you need to pay for a more expensive version of Vista. If you don’t, you are violating EULA. Why is MS doing this? Because they can.
For the developing world, they have “Starter” edition of Windows. This is a SUPER NEUTURED version that is restricted to 3 apps allowed to run simultaneously, 800×600 resolution, etc.
For those multi-CPU socket mobo owners out there, you are restricted to certain Windows versions. Win2k/XP Pro only support up to 2 CPU sockets. What if you have 4? Too bad. Pay up!
(7) No need to install third-party security CRAP anymore. Which means less crap clogging up the system, which means LOWER system requirements. And thus, better for the environment as I consume less.
(8) I talk DIRECTLY to the package maintainer or developer.
When there is a problem, I don’t need to contact tech-support, waste days to weeks trying to escalate my issue until someone decent picks it up. I don’t have to wait MONTHS to get the issue resolved. I work WITH the developer in solving the problem.
(9) Nothing to hide.
The beauty of open-source itself. There’s nothing to hide, and honesty is promoted as a result of being open. Any FUD is always crushed with honesty.
Unlike like Microsoft, lots of bones in its closet. They even tried to get the Iowa case evidence removed from the web (as part of the settlement!). Too bad MS, us opensource people have archived EVERYTHING before it became inaccessible to the public.
Did you folks hear that even if you cancel the process with WGA, the solution STILL dials home to MS servers? It doesn’t warn you that it does. It does it without telling you. Wow!
Can you really trust Windows, if it doesn’t tell you what its EXACTLY doing? Can you guarantee 110% that MS hasn’t put in a hidden backdoor as an agreement with the Govt? You can’t because the public doesn’t have access the to source code. So no one can conduct a full and comphrensive audit on the code!
And for those who says you can’t play games on Linux…Ever heard of Wine? Its an application compatibility layer for running Windows apps on Linux, OSX, BSD, etc.
Here’s a few games that have worked for me under Linux:
* Jedi Knight: Jedi OutCast
* Jedi Knight
* Half Life 1 and 2
* CounterStrike: Source
* ALL Command & Conquer RTS games. Including the demo of “C&C3: Tiberium Wars”
* Battlefield 2142
* Call of Duty
* Call of Duty 2 (Multiplayer works, single does not.)
* Delta Force: Black Hawk Down (works, but graphical issues)
* Doom 3 (There’s also native Linux version)
* Quake IV (There’s also native Linux version)
* Unreal, Unreal II, Unreal Tournament, Unreal Tournament 2003, and Unreal Tournament 2004.
* Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate, and Dawn of War (including expanision discs)
* Warhammer: Mark of Chaos
* Warcraft II, III, and World of Warcraft.
* Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds
* Need for Speed 4 High Stakes (The only NFS that actually worked well for me).
Wine, although not perfect, its getting better. Games like FEAR, Star Wars: Republic Commando, Ghost Recon, Act of War: Direct Action, Battlefield 1942, etc are starting to work, but with bugs. Over time, the bugs will be resolved.
It will get to the point of asking yourself: “What’s the point of having Windows if I can run my games in Linux?”
Then it boils down to business and professional apps. (Photoshop CS2 works for me).
If Linux isn’t good enough, how do you explain its users who include Google, Pixar Animation Studios, Dreamworks, NASA, etc…Hell, even Microsoft uses it in their Linux Lab. (They want to keep an eye on Linux, because its fundamental model is a direct contradiction to their business model).
Reasons to use Linux (Debian):
You are essentially one click away from updating your entire system to the latest possible release. Every binary on your system is updated to the latest stuff. My main server was installed from 2 floppy disks I created 3 years ago. There absolutely no argument, what so ever, that Linux is superior to Windows on the server side.
Any OSS that you would ever want is there for you, one click away. One place, and one way, for all installs and uninstalls. I can select 10 programs I need and want, press a button and walk away, 90% of the time I can come back 10 min later and use the programs, no questions asked. Some times, as in Windows, you do have to answer some preinstall questions.
Amazing power right at your fingertips. For instance, how long does it take you to extract a movie you just downloaded (like the once on this site). I download a lot form usenent. So here is my process:
True, it took maybe what, like 5 min to write a scrip that does that, but think of the ease.
1. CD into the directory ware rar and par movie files are saved.
2. type usenet-extract
Wow, wasn’t that easy
Finally, linux is so much cooler, come one, you have to admit it, it’s just cooler.
Now, hear some disclaimer.
1. There are linux viruses. More over, there are a lot of linux root takeover viruses. Trust me, I can upgrade myself to root in a second on Linux, given a user access, default server install, and net access. You do not even have to be some guru to do that, all you need is an idiot admin who runs apache, ftp, or SQL as root.
2. Linux does not support a lot consumer side HW. A lot of scanners and printers, mice, keyboards, wifi cards are not supported. Most are however. A Joe 6pack will reatrly find such HW, but it’s out there, and it’s a PITS.
3. Linux isn’t perfect, even for servers, Sun Solaris is better, way better, but it’s crap as far as HW support.
whats the point of the argument, we all know the Windows the supreme OS. Nothing comes close to it. Who needs stable, open source software nowdays? We all just dying to empty our wallets on brand new Vista extreme edition, where we can have a very pretty desktop! Oh wait I’m forgetting , we first need to get a new bank loan to get the system that can handle extreme Vista’s desktop & features. Pssh, Linux is better at memory management? Please, who cares about that nowdays? I love my memory to be eaten alive, where the shinny icons will spin in front of my eyes! *Bling bling* Open source? No thank you! I already loved the brand new -XP- ‘messenger’ feature, where ad’s were delivered in a pop-up box straight to my desktop! I didn’t even had to browse for Viaga anymore, it was straight delivered to my desktop! What an invention! I’m looking for even better features in Vista! Jeez, I don’t even know why would *anyone* switch to Linux?! or to OSS to that matter! Who needs OSS?
Windows = bringing clueless computer users online since 1985.
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# “I installed Linux once… it didn’t seem to know what my mouse was, # or how to connect to the internet.
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# “I installed Linux once… I didn’t seem to know what my mouse was, # or how to connect to the internet.
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# So I went back to Windows.
That sounds like a commercial
it is true that linux > windows
but you have to know how to use it.
everything that herdzr says is true
peace out
For people who wanna have a taste of linux try sabayon.
http://www.sabayonlinux.org/
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