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New law will disconnect internet pirates in UK

Internet users who illegally download music and films could lose their access to the web under legislation aimed at cracking down on those who flout piracy laws. Powers being drafted by the government will compel internet service providers to take action against customers who access pirated material. The Department of Media, Culture and Sport will recommend the plan in a green paper on the creative industries to be published this month, a source with knowledge of the paper said. Under the new sanctions users will face a “three strikes” regime. A warning email will be sent for the first offence, followed by suspension from the service and finally termination of the internet contract.

A draft copy of the green paper said the government “will move to legislate to require internet service providers to take action on illegal file-sharing,” although it has yet to decide if information on offenders should be shared between the ISPs, the Times reported. The government has come under increasing pressure from the music and film industries to penalise users who download pirated files. Although piracy is illegal, prosecutions are rare. The UK’s four largest internet providers – BT, Tiscali, Orange and Virgin Media – are already in talks with studios on a joint voluntary agreement to share information on web violators. But under the legislation they could be forced to cut off customers. ISPs which fail to enforce the rules could face prosecution, and suspected customers handed over to the courts. Similar laws already exist in many countries but ISPs hardly disconnect someone, as they get money from such a user. This law could easily change everything…

Source: Guardian 

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  1. drhdfh
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:12

    I’m glad I ain’t in the UK

  2. kennii
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:13

    i have to admit thats good because at least they don’t come and arrest them first!;)

  3. kenny
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:15

    noooooooooo!

  4. Sydney-Sider
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:21

    oh damn we are next on the ban list

  5. eitanois
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:23

    I am so gladdy that so little live in this god’s forsaken country =D

  6. puk
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:24

    HAhaha that sucks for people living in the UK lol

  7. February 13th, 2008 | 10:24

    As far as ive heard this proposal will never happen. If it does ive lost all hope in humanity…

  8. Hussain
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:24

    this is stupid , if they want to do these things,
    first , they should oblige the musicians and cinema’s to reduce thier prices instead of making billions from us.

    i wonder how much they took these people whi is working on these laws took from them.

  9. reg
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:24

    this is going to stop nobody

  10. Ryan
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:25

    Theres always a way round it.

  11. DangerMouse
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:25

    This sucks. Not like capping my net is enough.

  12. BRUCE WAZNE
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:27

    Wait, how will they catch me….

    thats the SCARY part.

  13. uwilltry
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:28

    i wish i didnt this country gets worse by the month

  14. SeriousM
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:28

    human rights? privacity? oh damn… im glat too im not living in the UK…

  15. uop
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:29

    so they check .rar files also………….lol

  16. speks
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:31

    Thank god for cloned modems.

  17. JAFFA
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:32

    Dont worry people! This is pie in the sky and wont happen. EEC law wont give the go ahead for something like this – it infringes on an individuals human rights. And as the WWW & net become increasingly part of human existance it becomes even more inhumane to ban someone from accessing it.

    It WONT happen. Not for piracy anyway. Maybe if you took down a nations economic infrastructure with a virus or something spectacular. But for downloading the latest cam of Cloverfield? Get real!! :-)

  18. Anon
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:32

    There is always a way to by pass things like that.

    for example, rar up the files and password it, and luckily Winrar already done the favor of allow you to password the file + encrypt file names. lol.

  19. ke
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:34

    that’s bad! i guess you have to find someone’s unprotected wlan connection when uploading/downloading stuff :D :D

  20. OSC
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:35

    When will they stop taking their marching orders from terrorist? (MPAA/RIAA)

  21. badideabritain
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:37

    Whtether or not this law matters depends upon how they determine internet piracy. If ISP’s are required to monitor their customers internet usage then everyone is screwed and given the poor privacy laws of the UK this is possible. I see no other way to accurately determine whether people are engaging in internet piracy.

    What might happen is that ISPS ban all the heavy bandwidth users for ‘piracy’. People who chew up bandwidth cost ISPS’s money so they may use this new law to get rid of them.

  22. Ronnie
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:39

    Without piracy, the ISP’s have no justification, and they won’t exist. I bet the huge companies would love that ^^

  23. noplusforthis
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:39

    if ((internet) == (sharing) & (!piracy) == (!internet))
    find another way to continue sharing;
    else
    printf(”stupid!!!\n”);

  24. Paul
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:39

    Nooooooooooooooo!!!!

    I hope you guys are right and that it is un-workable

  25. Agreed.
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:41

    This law is unrealistic, it would be nearly impossible to enforce and even harder to maintain.

    Drawing the line would be very difficult let alone distinguishing what is acceptable, what isn’t, and the amount of resources it would take to maintain it.

  26. godfella
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:41

    Yeah, UK is very strict and strange country. On one side everything is working great and everyone likes each other, but it so diverse. And then bang, you are going to find ultra aggressive people. The kids are responsible for their crimes at ridiculous age (it may vary in the UK but its like 8-11 years i think). extremists rule England :) – if they dont want smoke in their favorite restaurant, they just create a law, that prohibits the Owner of a public restaurant to smoke there :) which is ludicrous. Or when I was there I was looking on the news and there was a problem that on some government web site there was a link to a escort service (oh my got what a problem). And they gave a word to a woman that looked like a witch 55-65years old and she was saying: ” The solution is easy ” – we have to annihilate
    all escort services and make prostitution illegal.
    I think that movie Children of Men got it quite accurately. :)

  27. Anarchy In The UK
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:42

    Well, now we all know that this isn’t going to happen. No ISP has the resources to monitor every customers internets traffic.

    But, in case this would happen (it won’t happen), then i would be glas i don’t live in the UK.

  28. PSH
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:42

    Even if EU allowed this, there always would be workarounds, albeit making the fileshare a little more difficult. I can see how a measure like this could be defeated using encripted/restricted DC++ or some other analog technology, along encripting the files and not providing information about them in the same channel.

    That and paid anonym proxies.

  29. Morfar
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:42

    Oh snap, too bad for UK =( glad i live in norway hopefully there will never be such law.

  30. crimson
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:43

    5 Reasons Why Illegal Downloaders Will Not Face a UK Ban

    http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/

  31. Dustsucker
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:43

    @8: in almost all cases (at least with the big labels) it’s not the musicians that make their cd’s expensive, it’s the recordcompanies. Look at what Radiohead could do without a major company pushing the prices.

  32. crimson
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:44

    1. This proposal was a draft consultation green paper, defined as “a proposal without any commitment to action.” The government receives many of these on a daily basis. They are like junk mail at Number 10 Downing Street. The Prime Minister’s toilet paper is more important than most green papers, and both are usually filed in the same place.

    ;)

  33. muratiff
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:45

    Well u can by any dvd or game in Turkey for 2 dolars each, anywhere u go illegal copy of anything is available to everyone :) if u get caught ;
    Buyer: No fine
    Seller: 8600 dolars fine

    i buy dvd copies of the movies before they come on theatre,

  34. glorybear
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:47

    pie in the sky scaremongering!! it will never happen due to human rights legistlation and also with wifi hijacking prevalent its actually impossible to prove that any individual actually commited the crime.

    all the news channels covered this in the uk yesterday and every expert agrees it will never happen so lets stop touting this nonsense story as the end of the world-its another stupid idea that is totally unenforceable!

  35. MRceeee
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:51

    glad im stealing the wifi :P

  36. james
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:53

    This sucks! Downloading films is the only reason for broadband internet. People should start attacking uk government websites if this becomes law.

    Is there any way to get around this? to hide your ISP number?

    Gordon Brown blows, he is the worst leader and as dull as a post.

  37. StickBeater
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:54

    hehe

    They will have to find us first, i wont get banned, the person who’s modem mac i am using will get banned.

    Like santa says….hohoho

  38. User 04283
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:56

    ok, so i’m living in the UK, this sucks! though i can’t imagine it would be really strictly inforced.

    i heard they were going to do something like this in france – did it ever happen?

    please post another news article if anything new happens on this topic

  39. golfpro
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:59

    For those that say this won’t ever happen in the EEC (its EU now BTW), look what’s HAPPENED in France. Last time I looked they were in the EU.

  40. Peter
    February 13th, 2008 | 10:59

    Its just an idea, the technicalities haven’t been worked out yet. If you encrypt your downloads or just download from newsgroups you most likely leave no evidence.

    How the ISPs will catch you is still a big question, in order to filter traffic they will need to set up some kind of infrastructure. I’m sure the ISPs are not goingt to pay for that. (ISPs are already very competitive in the UK)Also there are so many ifs surrounding this draft paper, what if you share your wireless connection? like the BT scheme to share wireless access among BT users. Who is going to be banned? Its one of those stupid things that will not get off the ground, but we need to be vigilent. You can probably guess who thought of this idiotic idea.

    Anyways, any ISP that will give my details alway, I’ll just not use them. Most downloaders probably don’t use the major ISPs, reason being that they have incredibly bad service. (so I’ve heard in the UK forums and friends that used to use their services)

    This invasion in civil liberties is bad. UK is already the most CCTV surveyed country in the world. Makes me think of the Zeitgeist movie…

    I wonder if the presidential election in the US will bring change, corporations have too much influence in governments. Wonder if Obama gets elected president, will he reign in the corporations? Reign in the RIAAs and the MPAAs? I hope so.

  41. luvtodownload
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:02

    I’m in the UK and love downloading, I work but have no way near enough money to live and to buy all these over priced films and games! If actors can get paid multi millions to simply star in a film, why are we supposed to support their over luxurious lifestyle!

    Freedom of information I say! companies will still make large profits even if we download! Many enthusiasts will still go out and buy the product even tho they can DL it for free! Its all money and greed!

    I say lets take them down! F**K’EM!

  42. mr d
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:02

    anybody ever read 1984?

    doesnt sound so sinister now does it!

    i live in the uk and i want to move ASAP

  43. lumberjack
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:04

    Anyone here a lawyer that can give us a good idea?

  44. Crinan
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:07

    Give me a break 6 million downloaders in the uk banned by there internet service providers not a chance.So there going to Feck over there customers are they now that makes a whole lot of scense.So we can see major corporate profits drop emensly thats what will happen.The goverment never think anything through in this country thats why the countrys in the state its in.I don’t really give a Sh!t if i loose all internet service providers i get richer while they get poorer get it up ye gordon brown.

  45. Alexander
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:08

    Why not stop illegal activities as deplorable as pedophilia and the such.

    Priorities are screwed up.

  46. golfpro
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:11

    I sincerely hope this doesn’t happen, BUT I think about HIPS packs (sellers hate them, buyers ignore them, the industry hates them) and they’re here. Not so sure this won’t come about in some shape or form in due course.

  47. Peter
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:14

    Just responding to the comments like “I’m glad I live somewhere else” or “glad I don’t live in the UK” or “Glad I’m using someone elses internet”. Guys, you need to look at the bigger picture. You don’t want these idiots to set a precedent because it may spread to your country… we all need to be careful when these **** try to take our freedom…

  48. JD
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:16

    Torrents yeah……

    But surely rapidshare won’t be affected.. cos its just rar files. They can’t stop you downloading anonymous files from the internet.

  49. Harry
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:17

    Well, lets see.

    The ISP has to monitor every single packet of data, unless im mistaken and the ISPS are remotely watching us through the internet.

    How can you figure out which packet of data is legal and which isnt. There is plenty of legal file sharing, e.g. BBC iPlayer, nasa programs i remember used Bittorrent sometimes for programs. What about television streaming such as Sopcast, TVU player, TVants.

    Its far too much to control and they should look at cutting the cost of a DVD to £7. Tesco and Morrisons are already doing that. You can buy ratatouille for £8 this week. Thats a bargain when you compare the outrageous £14.99 that HMV want.

    CD’s. Cut the price to £4.99 and ill buy it. If that happened, every week i would happily buy a new album (if i liked it).

    Fans are always going to go to Gigs, so, money is coming in from there. Im all for banning those who make money from it, who sell the copy on.

    I dont see the harm in downloading an album of an artist to see if i like it or not. Why should i take the risk of spending £10 on utter crap when i check it first, and then go buy it.

    The Uk government needs to get their act together. Stop passing out peoples benefit details, and crack down on “real criminals”.

    Find it amazing that in the UK, its not illegal for an under 18 year to drink alcohol (its illegal for an under 18 year old to be sold it), but yet its illegal to download a music album.

    Time to get their priorities sorted….

  50. dirkpeter
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:17

    http://phoenixlabs.org/
    maby ”Peer Guardian” can solve the problem ?

  51. Darius
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:17

    Heads Up:
    Penumbra: Black Plague-HATRED is out.

  52. evilgenius
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:18

    Now that bull*beep*!!

    I got a ADMiN in UK on my site lol

  53. mrtee
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:19

    i live in the uk, and isp’s have admited this wouold be virtually impossible to enforce, cos they aint got the technology to enforce it proper. it will be a case of if your a heavy downloader you’l get a warning an it will be up to you to prove you aint downloading anything illigal, this country sucks, its gettin more like george orwells 1984 every day

  54. thadc
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:20

    they have a 3 strike rule with cox communications for illegally downloading copyrighted material…..if they catch you. After the third strike they drop you as a customer and you must find a new ISP. And thats in the U.S.

  55. Blackeyedbearhawk
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:22

    Maybe they should change the country’s name to the United Kingdom of North Korea?

    Man don’t you guys have any privacy anymore? Are they going to monitor everything you do on the internet? The internet is a FREE realm, and it should remain a FREE realm as long as you pay for the service.

    Why aren’t they spending more time capturing pedophiles, and criminals who are active on the net?

    I actually think that the new law, is in conflict with European privacy laws.

  56. emil82
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:25

    Come all in Romania, here is 100% free.No problem yet.

  57. robski
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:25

    What else would I use my Broadband for, the reason I pay for speed and huge download limit would no longer exist. I wouldnt need much to send emails cause thats all that would be left to do. The serice provides would go out of business. I wouldnt need my computer, I would see the sun again.

  58. UK Sux even M0re!
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:26

    Glad I ain’t in the UK. With all the identity theft and now this banning access if caught dlin a song. Your country sucks
    hard. Yes I agree now England, next Austraila.

  59. JD
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:28

    Some providers do have an interest though…

    Sky Broadband is owned by News Corp…… who owns 20th Century Fox. BSKYB, Fox Television, part of ITV, Myspace Records…. so they would want to curb ‘illegal’ downloads.

    They own thr rights to the simpsons, lost, prison break and tons of films.

  60. fartist
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:34

    If they do this, then I shall counter it by cracking my neighbour’s WEP keys and doing all my illegal downloading there instead!

  61. robski
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:37

    I must be crazy, I still buy the Dvds and my favourite Tv box sets. I just like to watch them first a try before buy scheme. I no longer own a video recorder to tape my shows while Im elswhere. So isnt taping or copying movies and shows from TV the same.

  62. hfghdfgh
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:37

    @Martin

    It isn’t a law, and probably never will be.
    So why are you making people think they will get in trouble with your stupid headline?
    Even if it did become law then I can just encrypt and then there’s no problem.
    So why spread lies Martin?

  63. robski
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:40

    The smaller companies of service providers would be affected by the ban the bigger companies would just rub thier hands together with glee.

  64. Toby Adams
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:47

    bring it on!!! I DARE YOU MR BROWN!!!!!

  65. this@
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:49

    Its not a law, just a green paper, also anybody who has read anything properly on this would know that the ISPs ar not in favour of it and would prefer self regulation as opposed to legislation. There are approximately 6 million people who download illegally in the UK, its impossible to track such a high proportion of internet users, I can’t see this happening.
    Its pretty much a non story.

  66. mike
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:49

    i moved back to the uk from germany where i had been living for 5 years and now wonder what ive come back to this country has gone to pot drastically

  67. UncertainGod
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:51

    It’s just unenforceable scaremongering from the tabloid press and the morons that pander to it (MP’s) and I’m surprised at how much coverage this is getting.

  68. s1nt3k
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:52

    Simple fix. Movies are the bandwidth hogs. Just get your movies from streaming sites that don’t offer downloads and get yourself a program that lets you download streaming videos and you got yourself a movie. Your not connected to a torrent site. Download your programs and music from site’s that offer rar or zip files and who the hell will know the difference. You can also use a proxy site to give yourself anonymity. Every other country can still use torrent sites but the UK will just use streaming sites for movies. You get what you want and the fight goes on.

    Downloaders are happy and Hollywood still gets the finger. One way or another they still get their revenue. They still make money anyway because they are still charging us for bandwidth and that service isn’t free. They always find a way to make money off of entertainment. In the end the user always pays.

  69. Cata RapidForever
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:54

    i hope this would never happen, and i’m pretty sure it will never happen because it breks down a basic human right:PRIVACY.Suposing that this happen , the ISP will banckupt because no one is going to pay for a high bandwidth just to check his email :D :)

  70. J Smith
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:57

    A spokesman for the Internet Service Providers Association has already been quoted as saying that this is unworkable and a breach of data protection laws. Stating that even if they could monitor and all traffic and identify it, it would be the equivelent of the Post Office opening every envelope that passes through it’s office.
    I don’t think we need to worry too much.

  71. ww
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:58
  72. J Smith
    February 13th, 2008 | 11:59

    ^ that was posted back at No.30

  73. alin
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:01

    emil you know our politicians are stupid they don’t know about such things even if now we are in the E.U ,but they are also U.S sclaves and if such an order will be given they will make it a low.Of course Rds,or Upc can by bypassed and we will find ways to download without many problems.,butdon’t be glad it isn’t beeing discussed in our country.The way i see it it will have more chances of beeing a law here than in the U.K where people still have a word to say about it.

  74. bRaNE
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:05

    in Serbia and other balkan states pirates will never be stoped

  75. UK rules
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:11

    Got alot of friends in US and afew in norway, and i can honestly say i wouldnt wanna live anywhere else i love the Uk. This sucks reading this but like all government legislations it will either fade away or never happen. Plus they will not go after the bees but will close down the honeypots:) if they ever were get medieval on us. Downloading has helped me in many ways ,changed my life over the years.. lil changes lol. Yeh Uk has got alota cameras , big brother 1984 ..paranoia etc etc .. rather have lots of them then guns tho.. Uk is kool in my books:) F*k this law

  76. Amaterasu
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:15

    I’m French and this Green paper is based on a French decision (directed by M. Olivennes french director of FNAC) which was made to fight against piracy.I can told you that almost everybody in France a re against this kind of measures and a lot of french will be likely in favor of what we call “licence globale”.(In brief it is the fact to pay to your internet provider a forfait,so as to pay all the artists and get rid of the author’s rights problem)

  77. B005T3R
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:16

    It aint gonna happen. Do you really think they are gonna disconnect practically everyone who uses the internet? Practically everyone I know from all walks of life and ages downloads some music etc.

    They would lose millions

  78. PinkFloyd
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:17

    A question guys, with a premium account, if you download from rapidshare, is it secure? I mean is it using https? Because in that case i think we will be safe from ISPs spying on us

  79. midlandsmorg
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:21

    The ISP’s have likened pin-pointing such illegal activites as difficult as the Royal Mail would find opening every letter sent to check it’s contents, virtually impossible. The green paper proposal submitted will take an estinmated six years to investigate, so there’s no real danger just yet.

    @26 as in most countries, children under the age of 18 are defined and trialled as a minor in the UK (except in Scotland where the age is 16) – try and get your facts right when you’re slandering another country, otherwise one sounds ignorant

    @30 Brilliant article, made me giggle

    @42 I agree wholly, I would be more likely to hire a DVD and pay to go to the cinema if it looked like actors worked for a living, their lavish Hollywood lifestyle is simply ridiculous and proves that they earn far too much for (what is is comparison) very little work.

  80. name (required)
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:22

    hahaha…glad i’m not in ukay…

  81. Jamfa
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:24

    I wish there was something I could do to help this not happen, like join a pirate party, but I haven’t heard of one in England :/
    It may not seam it but people in the UK are just as heavily under surveillance as the people in US, its disgusting, there is no privacy anymore. Im glad they cant really ban my internet, not using torrents and having over 30 people at least having access to the router I am using.

  82. grant
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:26

    doesn’t protocol encryption hide the fact that ur downloading illegally anyway?

  83. Londoner
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:26

    So they will be able to distinguish between a rared download of a Linux ISO & a rared copy of Rambo ?
    to do that they will have to open every rared file that is downloaded in UK…
    It will be the same as it is now, they receive a letter from the alphabet gang & they respond with an email to you telling you to stop doing it, all they are trying to do is impose a penalty that doesnt really exsist yet, no different from any other laws when you get caught, trick is dont get caught !!

  84. Unbreakable /Bmore
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:27

    This is such bullshiot. They are kidding themselves if they think they are going to be able to enforce this properly. Ha what a joke.

    Its like the WAR ON DRUGS…no matter how hard they try; they will never win.

    I’m gonna go seed all my DVD’s now. : )

    -Unbreakable /Bmore

  85. Samot4
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:28

    Funny things about this filesharing thing.
    It really boils down to fear of progress and as always thoose who adapt survive.Byebye music&film industry as we know it.The sullotions to this fear remains moore or less the same remember the cassette tape taxes in the late 60ies.
    The owners of this industri and the owners of the companies that supplies us with the means to fileshare are for the most part the same.

  86. tony
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:30

    I Was first to break this news

  87. hugoagogo
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:32

    uk isp’s sell their product on speed. What??? on how fast you can send an e-mail

  88. grant
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:33

    @87 no u weren’t

  89. Londoner
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:34

    @83 Grant..”doesn’t protocol encryption hide the fact that ur downloading illegally anyway?”

    it would seem not Im traffic shaped on British Telecom
    if I download a Linux ISO it comes down full speed download Rambo (as an example) speed drops to about 40kb

  90. tomwal
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:39

    This country and government suck big time, (UK) the government should be dealing with murderers, rapists and paedophiles, the streets of Britain are no longer safe, you read about murders carried out in the street every day, what do these animals get, molly coddled and a slap on the wrist, the priorities are all wrong, legislation for downloaders, my ARSE as Jim Royal would say.

  91. bizzzo
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:41

    Oh my… I’m not from UK but I have my fingers crossed so that doesn’t happen, but I think that is quite hard to monitor p2p download, and of course we will find a way around.
    Or, maybe, the Motion Picture Association will manage to shut down Internet….yeah right :-)

  92. Misteritsy
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:45

    Living the UK this is a bit worrying.The Government seem to like to pass laws that will help big business then they supposedly get more tax ..But if you go onto the BBC site there are a couple of interviews and articles that may be of some interest..Mind you the British press love to scare monger..There must be some genius out there who will find a programme to find a way round it ..Anyone know would this also affect those who sing up to news groups where you pay per month for downloads would they also be illegal iff the worst happened

  93. mitch
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:52

    so glad I am not in the uk :-)

  94. BIGBROTHER
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:55

    i live nxt door to the uk and when they succeed in passing sumthing our gov usual take light and follow

  95. liquid
    February 13th, 2008 | 12:56

    even if the law is passed .. it wount stop many people ..as mentioned.. many ways around it.

  96. Mishkin
    February 13th, 2008 | 13:03

    Already done in France :/

  97. mr salty
    February 13th, 2008 | 13:04

    i agree with #41…ssl encrypted newsgroups/usenet downloading would be just fine…the isp could see you got traffic etc but cant tell what you’re downloading…also i guess people could just share rar files that are called something else than the movie/game etc

  98. DAVID CAMERON
    February 13th, 2008 | 13:05

    [URL=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/02/13/do1307.xml] Can Gordon Brown catch online pirates?[/URL]

  99. l.y
    February 13th, 2008 | 13:07

    hahaha
    your saying my isp is gonna throw away 30-40 pounds a month
    for the package ive got wih them,no there too greedy

  100. k
    February 13th, 2008 | 13:10

    people who pay for an internet connection are demented.

    at all times there are free highspeed wifi connection beaming through your room. some without protection, many with wep which can easily be cracked.

    i havent paid for internet for 3 years now *waves*

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