@40 – saying Tibetans are Chinese because the Chinese regard Tibet as part of their country is not a good reason. The Tibetans never regarded themselves as part of China. Or does the act of thinking you own a country make it true?

So anyway, has anyone actually watched this doco and can comment on how good/bad it is ?

It rocks

Its perhaps worth pointing out that the China depicted in the movie isn’t the People’s Republic of China we know & loathe today, that didn’t exist until Mao took power in the mid 1950s.

As such it’s possible to see this as more pro-human than pro-china, as a depiction of the horrific violence, rape and murder that occurred at the hands of an invading army.

No doubt the People’s Party are creaming themselves over the possibility of using it for a worldwide big-up china maneuver (hey, the Olympic torch maneuver was a big success )

If they do, they might want to look into the concept that the taking of human life is wrong (this is kinda of a big part of the film…) and stop executing so many people/lying about having a big T-62 demolition derby/being totalitarian fu*kheads

Until then, I’m not sure any propaganda will be that effective.

Next you are going to say Ghandi overthrew the British government in India at the time using AK47’s.

On another note, I find it interesting that 2 pro china movies have come out recently when China has recently suffered some bad pr with their recent actions in Tibet.

Israel invaded Palestian, killed and subjugated its people. So because of this, the Holocaust didn’t happen, since it’s retribution, right?

People who think that way should be shot in the head, which would have been painless compared to the fates many of the victims of those atrocities suffered. They’re all horrible, and no one has the right to trivialize any of them, for any reason, especially politics.

Your innocuous little cell phone is probably made from the coltan ore stolen by Paul Kagame’s Rwandan thugs, conquered with blood and mined with forced labor.

The Congo Civil War has been the DEADLIEST CONFLICT SINCE WW2, but because of various interlocking economic interests, very few will dare say anything about it. The Darfur advocates are the most craven and misguided in this farcical carnival of fools.

This is the US government’s position on the subject, a fact that the Darfur hippies can’t seem to get through their skulls:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,18035973-1702,00.html

Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Jendayi Frazer, briefing reporters on moves to bolster security in Darfur, said the current situation “is very different than it was. It’s not as systematic.”

“It is a very serious situation and it’s a series of small attacks and incidents,” Ms Frazer said, adding that all parties were involved. “It is not the government directing the militia attacking civilians.”

In China, the country is called “zhong guo” or “middle country,” so Chinese, or “zhong guo ren” means everyone regardless of ethnicity in China.

What people typically think of as Chinese in the West is the Han ethnic group, which comprises some 90% of the population, but they are called Han, and they are not every single person in China, despite what Han chauvinists would like to make you think.