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MovieX leeching case, another point of view

Posted on 01.12.2007 at 12:24 in Offtopic by Martin

I felt somehow empathizing this morning when I read the stupid article at Torrentfreak, which was linked by some of our readers. The story basically moans about private MovieX tracker and their seeding methods. Long story short: these guys create torrents with 2 trackers and upload them to ThePirateBay. The first tracker is obviously public TPB and the second one is their own private MovieX tracker.

What’s the author of this hateful article complaining about is the fact, that MovieX doesn’t allow leeching from their tracker if you aren’t a registered user, but it allows to seed. This results in better speeds for registered users of that tracker, who can download from both private seeders and public users, who finished the download. On the other hand, users not registered at this private site will be available to download only from other public users, possibly resulting in slightly slower download speed.

The MovieX community has grown pretty fast recently due to this method and it now contains over 230 000 registered users. The thing which noone realized: it’s still open – you can go there right now, register and enjoy the benefits as all other users. There’s no catch, no registration fee or anything else, so it’s just those 2 minutes which will take you to fill the forms and the whole arguement is over.

Finally, I know the uploader of all those torrents who is known as loder at TPB. This guy does an awesome job for the BitTorrent community by releasing hundreds of scene only torrents just few moments after the pre (they are also appearing on NewTorrents.info, as this website focuses only on scene releases). He’s also seeding them at fast, dedicated 100 Mbit line. Without his daily work, there won’t be any of those fresh releases available to everyone, no matter if you can download them from public tracker or MovieX. I really urge those people who have nothing better to do than writing some stupid articles to think about it a bit and actually start doing something useful before they spit out their words of hatred – or at least shut up and silently appreciate the work of others.

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  1. Anon
    January 21st, 2008 | 03:15

    As long as there are public torrent sites there will be “leechy jerks” and plenty of annoying ads, not to mention the threat of media watchdogs sniffing around for IP’s to report and threaten ISP’s with copyright violations (Peerguardian is only as good as it’s latest update). The dilemma has always been the fairness of sharing practices. Go onto almost any private tracker site (after registration) and if you’re a noob you’re amazed at how well seeded the torrents are. It soon becomes apparent that if you can’t seed to the ratio limits set out by the site you end up getting banned even if you have all the intentions and ability to share back what you chosen to DL. Some private sites will offer not to ban if you at least show an attempt to seed for a predetermined amount of time (tracking your seeding time) but for the most part you just get screwed if you make the poor (noob style) choice of choosing a large yet obscure file to DL, and later realise that no matter how long you seed, there will never seem to be enough leechers to help you get your ratios up to snuff! Yes, I’ll admit that most of the private sites offer plenty of advice in their forums on how to keep good ratios. You really have to have the patience of Job to pour through and digest the info, then apply the advice and keep your fingers crossed in hopes to keep those precious ratios up. Most noobs are so damn excited to actually get decent speed and plenty of seeds they don’t take the time to read the rules, etc, and get screwed before they know what the hell happened. The alternative always seems to be the quick fix buying “upload credit”. Funny how all the good will of “sharing” somehow always turns back to “cash is king” which is exactly what most P2P’s users are trying to avoid in the first place. So, choose your source for media and quit all the belly aching. If you have the time and inclination, READ what the private sites offer for advice, choose your DL’s on the basis of ratio building for the first little while, then when you believe you’ve reach a rather healthy ratio, then go and get what you were really after(this applies to almost every private site I’ve ever checked out). Don’t have patience? pay up. (still cheaper by a long shot than other legit sources). Or go to the public sites and run the gauntlet of ads, all leechers no seeders, crappy quality, false or incomplete files, and of course all the other internet nasties that can be packaged up. Truth be told, if you have enough time and patience in your search, you’ll find just about anything you want whether it be through private or public torrent sites, never mind the all the other sources with the right connections can get you. Last word?….. God Bless the “Scene”, the Internet, and torrents of course!

  2. Fishin Freak
    January 22nd, 2008 | 06:55

    So whats up with moviex, cant even get to the site, you click on your language and all it does is show the code of the next page, nothing else.
    total waste of time, just delete and get on with iy.

  3. thizz
    January 29th, 2008 | 20:06

    after reading the articles about moviex i signed up and its not aping the community u morons. just keep ratio at .70 and u dont get banned. that means people actually seed not like public sites where my speed goes slow because people dont seed. dont see how making people seed is raping the community.

  4. EppyAndy
    March 1st, 2008 | 16:35

    Been with them nearly four months. Ratio of 1.3 with a download of 150Gb and am also VIP. Benefits of both. No pressure to pay, Yep torrents d/l quickly, but even quicker with the direct d/l links.

    People who say it is impossible to get a high ratio – cannot understand where you are coming from. I download and leave seeding.

    Yes on the site you get your snatch and runners but as they do not seed they do not last long. What is wrong with that.

    Just my tuppence worth.

  5. king_cnut
    March 8th, 2008 | 17:32

    Here’s the bit that people fail to understand, and precisely why MovieX’s policy is evil:

    Most private trackers that do rejection will do it on both ends – they will not allow you to participate in their private swarm, full stop. Join up, or you don’t get it. A bit like coming to a toll bridge – if you don’t pay, you don’t get across.

    What MovieX does is say “If you want to take part you’ll have to join, but even if you don’t we’ll take your bandwidth anyway”. There are ways of moralizing the whole download thing, but whichever way you look at it, this is stealing.

  6. pro_at_cards
    March 17th, 2008 | 06:09

    Some of you people are a bunch of f**king cry babies.
    ask your self this……
    Q:who controls your bandwith?
    A:you or your isp not some site

    Q:what was it like before torrent files?(yeah the old days)
    A:wrong files and infected

    Q:what tracker is better open source or private?
    A:private

    Q:why do you complain about things that only cost your bandwith that are for free?
    A:only you would know

    if you dont like what is Offered go out and pay for it.

    and you want to know why demonoid is down….please…
    it is because of cry babies….enough said

  7. nezagoo
    March 23rd, 2008 | 11:42

    whats wrong with all of u if your not happy go somewhere else
    simple, why all the whinging, go moviex you r doing a great
    job the rest of u use your hands for somthing more usfull

  8. Vashgun
    March 25th, 2008 | 03:56

    As a member of Moviex, I find it hilarious that anyone would suggest that we need the pirate bay “seeders” for anything other than the occasional entertaining flame articles. Moviex is the new demonoid, from an X-demonoid user. Moviex is still open, as I was very lucky to get an invite from a personal friend to demonoid. Private trackers exist to provide the real bt community, so you can feel protected from the kinds of users and loaders that embody Pirate Bay. Flame away, it’s only the public tracker users that suffer.

  9. ZanoZik
    May 22nd, 2008 | 19:04

    The article just summed up the whole unjust behavior of moviex network.
    In my personal experience torrents with moviex tracker get bigger ratio than the normal ones. All the moviex fan-boys doesn’t have a clue of the principle of p2p, thats for sure!
    We’he fought spam, we’ve fought viruses, this is just another one we have to eventually kill out. The best solution is to block moviex.info with your firewall.

  10. xabhijitx
    May 26th, 2008 | 17:51

    I just think people should delete Moviex tracker from torrent and use TPB tracker. I have been doing it since moviex issue heated up.

    I would rather upload to people who are not making profit of my uploads!

    Its better you upload to TPB peers.
    Torrent community is supposed to be Free, some times you leech some times others leech from you. Dont allow others to leech from you and dont give any thing to the free community!

    Moviex is making no difference in torrents available, I used to get every thing when there was no Moviex! Why care about Moviex, just Delete their tracker, and add the IP to peergurdian.

    Most of the torrent sites are supporting Moviex, why not, they are looking at the huge profits, when every one will have to pay for any damn torrent!

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