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MovieX leeching case, another point of view

I felt somehow empathizing this morning when I read the stupid article at Torrentfreak, which was linked by some of our readers. The story basically moans about private MovieX tracker and their seeding methods. Long story short: these guys create torrents with 2 trackers and upload them to ThePirateBay. The first tracker is obviously public TPB and the second one is their own private MovieX tracker.

What’s the author of this hateful article complaining about is the fact, that MovieX doesn’t allow leeching from their tracker if you aren’t a registered user, but it allows to seed. This results in better speeds for registered users of that tracker, who can download from both private seeders and public users, who finished the download. On the other hand, users not registered at this private site will be available to download only from other public users, possibly resulting in slightly slower download speed.

The MovieX community has grown pretty fast recently due to this method and it now contains over 230 000 registered users. The thing which noone realized: it’s still open – you can go there right now, register and enjoy the benefits as all other users. There’s no catch, no registration fee or anything else, so it’s just those 2 minutes which will take you to fill the forms and the whole arguement is over.

Finally, I know the uploader of all those torrents who is known as loder at TPB. This guy does an awesome job for the BitTorrent community by releasing hundreds of scene only torrents just few moments after the pre (they are also appearing on NewTorrents.info, as this website focuses only on scene releases). He’s also seeding them at fast, dedicated 100 Mbit line. Without his daily work, there won’t be any of those fresh releases available to everyone, no matter if you can download them from public tracker or MovieX. I really urge those people who have nothing better to do than writing some stupid articles to think about it a bit and actually start doing something useful before they spit out their words of hatred – or at least shut up and silently appreciate the work of others.

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  1. Petter
    December 1st, 2007 | 17:55

    Since we’re probably pushing it now that hibby’s on to us (30 seconds to delete a source, must take him a good 10 minutes to press Submit Comment) and this comment probably won’t help either, I’m going to bed. ‘night Copy Me. (You’re still wrong) ;)

  2. none
    December 1st, 2007 | 17:56

    utorrent does allow you to ban ip adresses and it never takes long for releases to appear on public trackers with or without movieX

  3. hibby
    December 1st, 2007 | 17:58

    @ Petter,

    How about this: YAWN! You are feckin’ boring pal – away and flame somewhere else. :evil:

  4. Áçê§
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:00

    lol at the lot of ya`s, YOUR GETTING SOMETHING FOR FREE!!!, Y`ALL STOP UR WHINING,CRYING, B!TCH!NG,BELLY-ACHING,AND “THE f(_)CKING WORLD OWES ME SOMETHING” ATTITUDES….. ITS ALL FREAKING FREE!!! AND WHO DOESNT LOVE SOMETHING FOR NOTHING?????
    but thats just my 2 cents worth……….

  5. Copy Me
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:01

    @102

    Nope. Go to Pirate Bay and look at all the new scene releases. Im a member of Swebits just to see what gets uploaded. Loder uploads at about the same time.

    If you can show me, I will stand corrected, but as far as DVDRs go. Loder uploads 80% of them I reckon. I know this for a fact, as I had to be a member of Filelist and Torrentleech to get anything at all a year or so ago, now the same stuff gets uploaded on PB, just because of Loder.

    But..Im bored now, you lot will not be happy till there is f(_)ck all just to prove a point.

  6. Áçê§
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:03

    awww im not allowed to post no more :(

  7. Rorschach24
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:03

    loder rules

  8. MovieHex
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:04

    MovieX is disgusting what they are doing. It gives the message about leeching but it is a leecher design by itself! If you don’t register all it does is take your bandwidth and you get nothing in return!

    Listen moviex if you want private then make it private in ALL ways. Private seeding and private leeching. Not this half public leeching nonsense. All this is is a cheap and disgusting way to get people to register and make money for the site, while stealing bandwidth from those who don’t want to register.

  9. Petter
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:05

    No worries hibby, I’m sorry I made you read all that while you were waiting for replies to your post.

  10. Copy Me
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:13

    @MovieHex

    You do realise how stupid you look, by complaining about “stealing bandwidth”, but you probably scoff at Sony and the likes for complaining about getting their products “stolen”.

    How different are we ?

    Yes, all thieves have a code, well thats b0ll0x as well..

  11. Áçê§
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:16

    oops didnt know there was a page 2.. srry rlslog :( (

  12. MovieHex
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:17

    While I do appreciate the irony that we’re all thieving stuff the point is moviex IS 100% leeching if you do not register. You sure like to post here defending that practice with obsfucating “logic” don’t you? Look that up in a dictionary if you don’t understand what it means.

    I’ll repeat for you. Public trackers, you share, you get back as well. moviex you get nothing back, unless you register. That is basically trying to force people to register, for ultimately making profit. So go ahead and make up some useless comparison to things totally unrelated you can’t deny this basic fact.

    If I only download and zero upload than I am a leech. It’s the same damn thing what moviex are doing they are only taking and not giving back (unless you register, *cough*get the forced hint?*cough*)

  13. AATeam
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:18

    moviex rules…. i used torrents from day dot and they were good till i found moviex… i joined for free i might add then i jioned VIP… then u dont have to use torrents…. all direct downloads with your free rapidshare account or megashare account… all for like 15 bucksor some thing stupid…. get your tight fisted hands in those cob web ridden pockets and shed some dollars then life becomes easy.

  14. wounds
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:20

    Yes, MovieX is stealing bandwith.

    p2p is giving and receiving. I receive nothing, so they steal bandwith from me that I could use to support people who actually earned my bandwith because the gave me theirs.

  15. CIG
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:23

    “moviex rules…. i used torrents from day dot and they were good till i found moviex… i joined for free i might add then i jioned VIP… then u dont have to use torrents…. all direct downloads with your free rapidshare account or megashare account… all for like 15 bucksor some thing stupid…. get your tight fisted hands in those cob web ridden pockets and shed some dollars then life becomes easy.”

    Thanks for admitting the profiting. Proper authorities have been contacted.

  16. Copy Me
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:24

    @Moviehex

    Its not 100% leeching though is it. Ive already said about 100 posts ago that I can get a DVDR and only have a share ratio of 0.200.

    So, ok, even I was surprised they leeched off me, but Ive actually lost nothing.

    For all I know, the Scene groups could be a bunch of thieving scumbags, but I dont care.

    It really does not make that much difference, you were seeding anyway, who cares who gets it, you are just glad you got it. Its not cost YOU anything.

  17. TJW
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:26

    MovieX is a private tracker. If you download a torrent,from another site and it has the MovieX tracker attached to it, then you will not connect to the MovieX tracker.. EVEN if you are a registered member of MovieX… You MUST download the torrent from the MovieX website from the computer you are wishing to attach to the tracker, tobe able to connect to anyone on the MovieX tracker.. That includes ANY seed or leech.. The only way you can mix/match trackers, is if they are all sharing the SAME files… so if I add TPB tracker to my movieX torrent, then yes I could leech from them. I could do this with ANY other tracker that is public and is sharing the SAME file as I was getting from a private tracker.. People quit hating on MovieX.. It is a good site, with a good communtity.. If you can’t share and get banned, then so be it.. You are only good for a public tracker.. Private trackers have rules you must abide by tobe able to use the tracker.. Public trackers have rules, but aren’t inforced.. Thus Private trackers give better speed than public..
    -TJW-

  18. TJ?
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:32

    bla, bla, bla

    Its a scam, a money pit, the worst of all things p2p, and they are using public sites to get rich.

    May MovieX die an explicit death. -In prison.

  19. ITalkedAboutThisBefore
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:35

    I was posting about this six months ago, right here on this website. I stated that moviex was using TPB to dupe dummies and noobs into seeing to their private tracker. It’s easy to say go join Moviex, but if you HAVE ever joined, and, lets say, you don’t use it for awhile cuz it suxxx, then go back and can’t remember you’re user name or password, you’ re screwed. You can’t get back in till you get a new IP address. If you download something and don’t instantly seed 1:1 (lets say you donwload a movie, stop the torrent to extract it and your at 700mb down 200 mb up, you go to restart the torrent, and it wont let you in. You go back to the moviex site, and you’re banned for not uploading enough.

    These guys are everything that is wrong with filsharing. Alot of new people will come along and use TPB alot and not realize that the 6kb/s download speed they’re getting is because they’re uploading at 100kb/s to the moviex tracker. I would LOVE to find these idiots that run it, I’d kick their asses for stealing people’s bandwidth. I absolutely despise moviex and try and avoid TPB as much as I can so they don’t get nothing from me.

  20. WeDontCare
    December 1st, 2007 | 18:46

    Well some of what you say is valid.

    But my ISP is limited to 850 down and 20 up. I can get a well seeded DVDR off them MovieX/TPB tracker/s in a day or two,and I get the torrent from TPB.

    So whats the problem ?

    How exactly am I losing out ?

    Everything is a conspiracy or some sh1t to a lot of you, just be gratreful for goodness sake.

    The whole point, is the file/s you are getting in the first place are bloody knicked.

    Get a life ffs.

    Go and buy the DVD that will learn them. :)

  21. Bob
    December 1st, 2007 | 19:34

    the one thing u have to watch out for with sites like MovieX, is that the Feds will hit those ones first since they have a database of their users with IPs recorded.

  22. WeDontCare
    December 1st, 2007 | 19:39

    @Bob

    As long as you use P2P, your IP is wide open anyway.

    Peergaurdian and IPfilter are always a good idea, but they dont hide you totally.

    Some people think they are bulletproof because they use them, maybe they need to know its not that simple.

    A list of IPs mean nothing anyway, its getting caught downloading that gets you.

  23. Bob
    December 1st, 2007 | 19:49

    Something to think about with some BT programs u can limit ur UPload and keep ur download unlimited and get better download speeds. so if ur upping at 100kb/s and only Downloading at 10kb/s u might want to drop ur uploads to about 50kb/s.

  24. Metalfan
    December 1st, 2007 | 19:58

    I think what moviex is doing is called stealing. They are stealing bandwith from users without giving back anybit.
    Im deleting their trackers from my downloads.
    My 2 cents…

  25. UncertainIntent
    December 1st, 2007 | 20:05

    Loder is not a bot, he simply has a 100MB line for seeding…

    An official statement has been released, it is posted at one of the digg articles and at the slyck.com article post comments…

  26. WeDontCare
    December 1st, 2007 | 20:08

    Metalfan

    As Ive said in previous posts, what we are doing is stealing.

    And your point is again ?

  27. Metalfan
    December 1st, 2007 | 20:11

    WeDontCare
    If you like to give a part of your bandwith to moviex, with nothing in return, you can do it…

  28. Wibble
    December 1st, 2007 | 20:13

    Martin, Martin, Martin.

    In this particular case, your head is up you bum.

    For YOU to have written you spiteful little article in favour of a private site leeching from the community.. really just shows what a twit you actually are.

    Some of the garbage you are writting is really beyond a joke.

  29. rlslogger
    December 1st, 2007 | 20:13

    Martin, you admit that what torrent freak guy said is a fact and yet you don’t see a problem with it? and further more you defend moviex for doing it?????

    You’re also saying weird stuff like “slightly slower download speed”, do you download from public trackers to say that?

    or are you trying to abuse you popularity amongst rlsloggers for some unexplained interest?

    shame :(

  30. QuadrupelQ
    December 1st, 2007 | 20:30

    It’s only a matter of time before MovieX will get the axe, the same way Oink and Demonoid went. So all this shouting at eachother is pointless.

    Still, from now on I will delete the MovieX tracker. I don’t like this tricky bussiness they do.

  31. Unidentified Trading Object
    December 1st, 2007 | 21:05

    As a non member of moviex i find it strange that i am able to leech from their tracker, strange turn of events as thats never happened before 12/01/2007 @ 20:06 GMT……as i deleted the TPB tracker to make sure..yes sure enough i continued to leech from the moviex tracker alone, is this a turn of events or just an accident….il let you lot decide and comment…..

  32. lifeisnow
    December 1st, 2007 | 21:46

    a bunch of idiots complaining about reseeding to a tracker community without whom they wouldn’t have leeched that torrent anyway…

    lamers!

    thumbs up Martin.

  33. madstan
    December 1st, 2007 | 22:31

    Tried the same thing as Unidentified Trading Object but with a new torrent.It would “appear” that now I am leeching off Moviex.
    Does anybody else get the same result.

  34. Ad-Man
    December 1st, 2007 | 22:34

    The only reason people are complaining is because they know if they join moviex they’ll get banned because their leechers.

  35. Áçê§
    December 1st, 2007 | 23:00

    WANT TO KNOW A NEAT LITTLE TRICK? (1)join MovieX (2)start a d/l from them (3)if using utorrent,go to the properties of the torrent,an copy the VALID tracker of movieX, paste to notepad (4) everytime you d/l a torrent that has MovieX tracker giving you the “your only allowed to seed” notification,DELETE the old movieX tracker and copy/paste your VALID tracker from your notepad an VOLIA!!!instant leeching from them,take what ya want then DISAPPEAR!!!!!

  36. Ad-Man
    December 1st, 2007 | 23:36

    No you get banned.

  37. Áçê§
    December 1st, 2007 | 23:41

    i havent……… yet…lol;p

  38. WeDontCare
    December 2nd, 2007 | 00:32

    @ Áçê§

    And since they have read this. It will probably not work for much longer.

    Doh !

  39. mrnukem
    December 2nd, 2007 | 00:53

    Had never been to the MovieX site. Just joined up and started to build my ratio..Looks like a good site.

  40. loderfan
    December 2nd, 2007 | 02:16

    First of all, loder isn’t a bot morons! He responds to comments, I’ve seen over 400 comments from loder himself. Him and a bunch of axxo fans were going at it on several axxo torrents.

    Without loder there wouldn’t be a piratebay. Also for those who say aXXo re-encodes scene releases your just a bunch of wanna-be scene fans. Bring some evidence to show he re-encodes the scene releases wankers. Only nubs go by date releases, LMFAO!

    I’ve been getting scene releases since 1991. Your all a bunch of nubs who use inferior torrent & rapidshare technology.

  41. December 2nd, 2007 | 02:25

    too many comments to read, i agree even though i download from tl

  42. Shengis
    December 2nd, 2007 | 02:59

    First off i’m a VIP member of MovieX, but NEVER download anthing from there directly, I get the links from NT via this site. Quite simply, if you’re going to moan about this little scheme join MovieX, download ANY torrent and copy your passkey url from that torrent. Now everytime you download a torrent from a tracker that includes MX in the trackers, replace the original with your own passkey. Sorted. Not only will you get download BW from TPB users but also other MX members.

    Oh but I forgot, MX is a ratio site so no hit and run. Maybe thats why people are moaning? (not that I agree with ratio sites, but there you go, got to follow the rules of the tracker eh?)

  43. king
    December 2nd, 2007 | 03:02

    real stupid article Moviex vert good site think so if moviex gone wtf all public get new movie game in tim and can get download free idnont understand some people real………………. and Moviex tracker Oline now

  44. Petter
    December 2nd, 2007 | 03:21

    140, loderfan:

    “I’ve been getting scene releases since 1991. Your all a bunch of nubs who use inferior torrent & rapidshare technology.”

    Dad, stop trolling the internets.

  45. dnb
    December 2nd, 2007 | 03:28

    Took less than hour to get banned by low ratio, guess it’s not right place for 8/2 Mbit connection…

    What’s the point to get fast d/l speed in bittorrent and get banned because you can’t upload as fast you download?

  46. meme
    December 2nd, 2007 | 04:21

    ratio is not just to encourage seeding, but its the main money making strategy for private sites. if you cant seed, they you buy your ratio.

    another moviex strategy is direct downloads (if your vip)

  47. PC
    December 2nd, 2007 | 05:27

    “If you like to give a part of your bandwith to moviex, with nothing in return, you can do it…”

    Nothing in return? your downloading from a 100mbit seed box cluster….

  48. Darth Arcon
    December 2nd, 2007 | 06:09

    Indeed

  49. P2P = Free for everybody
    December 2nd, 2007 | 10:30

    Anybody who steals software and gives it away as a free download via the internet is a pirate. I somehow like pirates. Very often they critcize too high prices with their… well… theft. ;-)

    But whoever wants to make money by providing downloads only to registered users (and a registered user needs a working e-mail-address which is worth a lot of money to those phatazzes behind spambots), is no longer a pirate. He should not be a member of PIRATE bay. He should start his own site and stick with his own (sort of paying) “customers”.

    I will delete EVERY movie-x reference in my Pirate Bay torrents. If the guys behind movie-x want to seed for free, then do so. If you don’t want it, then close your public seeding. But this would, of course, mean, that you’d loose the public uploaders (who, by the way, seed FOR FREE and for everybody – no registration needed). Might that hurt your movie-x-business? Yes? GREAT!

  50. P2P = Free for everybody
    December 2nd, 2007 | 10:41

    The “paying customers” take from me, but they give me nothing. Instead they’re giving to Movie-X. Who, of course, give me a bit of their bandwidth. Just enough to allow me to seed to their paying customers.

    No. Bad deal for me. Either the paying customers (not Movie-X) take AND GIVE (high speed for everybody & the true spirit of sharing), or they take only from those who get paid to give. It’s as simple as that.

  51. TJ
    December 2nd, 2007 | 11:25

    “”Wow, who would have thought that Martin would have been so easily fooled?

    Sorry to hear that you drank the Kool-aid Martin, but MovieX is totally in the wrong here. Maybe the deal that rlslog has with Newtorrents requires Martin to defend the MovieX/Newtorrents alliance, but you shouldnt defend them at the expense of your own readers on this site.

    Hope they are paying you well enough to make it worth it :( ”"

    Never more correct. Rslog, Newtorents, and MovieX are all bound together in money agreements.

    I use to enjoy this site, well a little, now I piss on it, and will be sure as many others as possible piss on it too.

    Martin may your biased posts and you die.! Dont dare to show you face on certain forums. You will be shot.

  52. FYI
    December 2nd, 2007 | 11:32

    For those that dont know, RSLOG is also uploading passworded torrents to public sites in order to spark more income from particular program sales (malware).

    A few have been found publicly. When I get my hands on one again, or if any of you do, direct them to torrentfreak.

  53. Petter is God
    December 2nd, 2007 | 11:52

    Wow…

    Ive just been reading on Amazon and Play.com, they are wanting me to pay for a DVD, its the same with CD’s and all the games.

    Surely this is wrong. I think they might be making a profit as well.

    This is all wrong. :(

  54. Loader is God indeeed
    December 2nd, 2007 | 12:51

    The problem is not loader. The problem is Utorrent, the closed source spyware mesh.

  55. black frank
    December 2nd, 2007 | 14:31

    listen ..you idiots! now the tracker says “working”, but only because you are idiots!

    I actually liked the honesty behind the message “leeching is forbidden”, and i for one, UNDERSTAND

    ..but you, most of you that is, are idiots.

  56. Petter is God
    December 2nd, 2007 | 15:20

    @black frank

    Why does Loder upload dual tracker torrents on TPB then. Thats what annoys people. I personally could not give a toss !!

  57. d_bo
    December 3rd, 2007 | 00:08

    i wonder how much crying you guys will do once our co founder known on TPD as loder stops releasing his content there. i bet then you guys cry and complain and say “you’re not sharing to the community! you guys are greedy! you guys suck! you guys are killing the BT!” etc etc etc i cant wait ti laugh lol its going to be great

  58. Moviex point of veiw
    December 3rd, 2007 | 01:46

    hello all i am the one of the Founders of MovieX.info aka ®ama

    All these accusations against us has been brought to my attention as this has gone out of control and the post by p2pvine has disappointed me as their research has left out some key points .

    Let me start off by saying, we are not leeching from any community or leeching from public members. After reading this you will see that our system is actually not set to leech but fairly setup as we are a private tracker site.

    I will give you a quick breakdown of how our system works and a full response to p2pvine

    The torrents posted on TPB are originally coming from our uploader on MovieX also a founder, he is known on TPB as loder.
    He gets all content from a direct source and he then turns that content into a torrent file which is then posted on TPB with the pirate bay tracker including the MovieX Tracker including our site name which is a mere form of advertising.

    Now remember he is SEEDING ON BOTH trackers the pirate bay one and our one. Now when someone downloads from the pirate bay, where do you think that brandwith and content is coming from? its coming directly from an uploader we have at MovieX as he made that torrent and posted it. He is using his own connection to seed to the PUBLIC AND PRIVATE MEMBERS. Is this considered stealing? If he is seeding to the public using a public tracker, i do not see how p2pvine came to the conclusion that we are leeching when clearly we are giving back alot

    Your probably wondering why do you get “leeching forbidden, your only allowed to seed error?” Be advised that passkey which is a guest passkey and has a peer limit, when that peer limit is reached it will give you that error. We do allow downloading from that guest passkey but only up to a certain point, but due to the over growing demand you probably wont get a chance as too many peers are connected to that passkey. However you will still be able to download using TPB tracker
    If we didn’t have a peer limit on the guest passkey, members can leech like crazy and not even bother joining and ignoring all ratio rules….so therefore you will only be allowed to seed after you finish downloading

    Now remember if you get a torrent from the pirate bay and you see the moviex tracker along with the pirate bay tracker, you will only be able to download from the pirate bay tracker, if your lucky and not many peers are connected to that our guest tracker you will also be able to download from the MovieX tracker, but remember that initial seeder is loder and i will repeat he is the main seeder of all that content he has posted .

    The reason you don’t get an error when the file is completed is becasue its only fair that you give something back to the site from where the content came from as you downloaded something which was originally posted on our website and then put onto TPB.

    Remember any member that downloaded our content from TPB didnt even have to follow the ratio rules. They could just stop the torrent at anytime and still continue to download using the TPB tracker.

    My response to p2pvines 2 questions

    1. Why does the MovieX tracker message suddenly change to working when you become a seed and are not registered at MovieX, surley it should stay as a Failure if it’s mearly advertising.

    Its only fair that you seed back of what you have downloaded isn’t it? , we aren’t even forcing the public members to seed, its out of courtesy that any member that downloads a torrent should at least seed back something. Since we released our content to the public and since the original post came from our uploader on our site its only fair that you seedback on that passkey.

    2. If the external torrents are mearly advertising why can i seed into the tracker using only the MovieX url.

    As stated in my first post, its only fair that you give back something that you took, our uploader took the time to get the content, post it to the public AND USE his connection to SEED to the members off the public and private members. Please advise one private site which allows members off the public to get a taste of what they have?

    Not all of our releases are posted public, if you like what you downloaded in the public area, simply come join us. We have alot more to offer.

    The accusations of us stealing and leeching was disappointing to read, but if a uploader who uploads to private members and still has time to upload content to the public and uses his brandwith to seed is considered stealing then please tell me what isnt stealing? I would also like to point out that we have 4 x uploaders who are also uploading content to TPB and private members at the same time.

    At one point our tracker was down, we had enabled free leech, at that time all of our members were using the TPB tracker to seed. let me point out, no other private site would allow this to happen as they like to keep everything secret. is this still stealing? Our private members were SEEDING to public members.

    I hope that p2pvine puts out another blog that the first initial post of us stealing is removed and we get some damage control. We have been treated like we are some kind of government group as peerguardian has updated their blocklist to include us due to this review.. We are only trying to spread our content to members of the public so we can gain some good private members on the site.

    Also our direct download does not INCLUDE selling torrents who ever came up with that concept has no clue on how we work, i urge you guys to stop believing rumors and come get the facts direct from us

    I hope this explains all the blanks.

    I would like to see what p2pvine has to say about this

  59. Penca
    December 3rd, 2007 | 02:04

    Yes.. Loder does a wonderful work for the BitTorrent community.

    But the guy who wrote the article does have a point. Most torrent users are stupid kids who don’t even know what a tracker are. They simply download the torrent that has the highest number of seeds, they don’t care if they are uploading for a private tracker or not, they don’t even KNOW they’re uploading to a private tracker. And YES, MoviEx HAS USED THIS IN THEIR OWN FAVOR, and it sucks.

  60. loderfan
    December 3rd, 2007 | 10:53

    I’ll REPEAT ONCE AGAIN.

    loder isn’t a bot! LMFAO, when you upload a torrent, they ask you to enter a security code WHICH NO BOT CAN DO, LMFAO!! I’m one of the sceners who visit this cool funny site. It’s way better than vcdquality tech=heads who don’t know anything, lol!

  61. JMark
    December 3rd, 2007 | 11:23

    How to ban moviex tracker in utorrent:
    http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php#What_is_ipfilter.dat.3F

  62. JMark
    December 3rd, 2007 | 11:27

    > Im not saying Moviex is right, but
    > if Moviex did not exist, you would have
    > to get 75% of Scene releases from
    > private trackers, and that would be sh1t.

    Moviex does not exist right now as far as getting anything from it goes.
    This is the only concept to grasp from the TorrentFreak article and you have somehow failed. Congratulations.

  63. JMark
    December 3rd, 2007 | 11:41

    > I hope that p2pvine puts out another blog
    > that the first initial post of us stealing
    > is removed and we get some damage control

    You hope p2pvine remove what? The story that tells you it is copied from TorrentFreak?

    ps. You just confirmed, about 5 times, that you are leeching just like it was alleged you were. So I’m not sure why you thought it was going to be helpful to post that.

    pps. Enjoy the filters scumbag.

  64. ?
    December 3rd, 2007 | 16:41

    @JMark

    I dont know WTF you are on about.

    If MovieX did not exist, Loder would not be loading to MovieX or TPB. Which he obviously is, or the article would not exist.

    So you are talking sh1t.

  65. whatever
    December 3rd, 2007 | 21:47

    i just remove private and non-connecting trackers from the torrent. it’s my simple solution to ensure my bandwidth is used as i wish. but i don’t begrudge moviex, they do good work.

  66. JMark
    December 3rd, 2007 | 22:30

    > I dont know WTF you are on about.
    > If MovieX did not exist, Loder would not be loading
    > to MovieX or TPB.

    Then he wouldn’t be. Who could care less?
    There would be no such thing as p2p or scene release groups if the only people able to contribute were those running for-profit warez-membership sites, leeching off everyone else and those getting paid to upload torrents to a particular site, like your chum loder.

  67. ?
    December 3rd, 2007 | 23:08

    Well done admitting you were talkin B0ll0x…Oh no you never. Just more negative crap without much of a point.

    I have never paid any warez/p2p site anything, yet they have all been doing it…Bitsoup, TL, Filelist…Demonoid in a way….Blah Blah…

    But as long as people say donations, they get away with it.

    I cant see any difference myself, ok, apart from the said seeding to others, when they dont input anything.

    Well thats like complaining about “VIPs” or whatever the fancy name is for the site, not having to maintain a ratio. They help pay for the site, so I dont give a crap.

    If I lost a few MB to people who are paying, who cares, Im still getting it for free.

    But keep on talking crap, we are really interested. :)

  68. JMark
    December 4th, 2007 | 00:04

    > Well done admitting you were talkin B0ll0x…Oh no you
    > never. Just more negative crap without much of a point.

    Not much of a point? You have just been telling us Moviex and loder were essential to the rest of BT. I just pointed out we could lose them just like we have every other supplier over the past decade and go on just as we have.

    That’s not “much” of a point, it is the “whole” point. F**k loder. He can stop uploading to TPB if he doesn’t like it.

    > they have all been doing it…Bitsoup, TL, Filelist…
    > Demonoid in a way….Blah Blah… But as long as people
    > say donations, they get away with it.
    > I cant see any difference myself

    Do any of those sites ban you unless you pay them a membership fee? Moviex publishes a membership pricelist (for MONTHLY dues) and you are playing dumb as to whether this makes them any different from a website with an advert on it, or that accepts voluntary donations.
    I doubt you are even fooling yourself with this.

  69. Frank
    December 4th, 2007 | 06:29

    Basically moviex customers leach from public and don’t give anything to community? They take our bandwith but do not share with everyone, only there own customers? They have one special guy who uploads to public tracker, then gets all his people to leach off the public. Is this correct?

  70. loderfan
    December 4th, 2007 | 08:06

    All these torrent sites receiving donations to keep the site alive are a bunch of money hungry noobs. On average they make about $50,000 a month with or without adds. The money from donations is just their extra pocket wallet, not change, lol!

    If they can’t afford their own server costs, they DON’T HOST A SITE! That’s like saying hey guys, I’ll create Wal-mart and all you have to do is pay me to keep the store going, LMFAO!!

    If these VIP memberships nail you 500gb upload at a cost of $50, I’m pretty sure they can afford their own service. Don’t pay a thing. These money hungry sites need to be taken down.

  71. ?
    December 4th, 2007 | 08:38

    @JMark

    I still disagree with you, I never said P2P needs MovieX, but it would be worse for it, if it did close.
    Look at Demonoid, people are still crying about that closing down, maybe you have sources elsewhere, but personally, Torrents in a Scene release form were really hard to get hold of till MovieX/Loder came along, unless you wanted to download from TL or others, and I could never sort my ratio out, so could’nt. As I said before I have never paid anything, so why do I care.

    @loderfan

    “If they can’t afford their own server costs, they DON’T HOST A SITE! That’s like saying hey guys, I’ll create Wal-mart and all you have to do is pay me to keep the store going, LMFAO!!”

    So someone setting up a server should pay for the setup and upkeep with their own money ? And you dont think Walmart make a profit frm selling you things, How dare they, we need food to survive, how the hell do they get away charging us for food.

    Its the same with medicine companys, surely if they cared they would not charge us…..Ahh I see, its different then….no its not, everyone is greedy. :)

  72. reg
    December 4th, 2007 | 09:44

    it’s ‘empathetic’ not ‘empathizing’, get a dictionary

  73. profiteers
    December 4th, 2007 | 14:36

    is there a torrent site that breaks down it’s finances for it’s members? like how much advertising cash is taken, how much donations, cost of site, etc…anyone can show how much cash can be taken from the torrnt scene. i’m interested to see how much money can be made. i wonder how much the mpaa pay for a memberlist? lol

  74. loderfan
    December 5th, 2007 | 01:00

    @172 – There is no such thing as charity when it comes to torrents. Impossible. Look at Gamespot or Webmd, do they charge you for trying to keep their site alive? NO.

    DONATIONS ARE NOTHING BUT A SCAM TO TARGET THOSE WITH SLOW SPEEDS.

  75. iMiKE
    December 5th, 2007 | 07:51

    I dont think that MovieX is a good tracker in games part.

    there is no many scene releses on it – only some. Its not interesting in *some*. and all of them post many time from pred.

  76. profiteers
    December 5th, 2007 | 11:53

    some people are making serious money by exploiting their userbase for ad money…rlslog/nti is a cash cow…a ridiculously slow site due to the ads, yet the userbase is prepared to suffer for free downloads. suckers.

  77. d_bo
    December 6th, 2007 | 01:31

    JMark

    you obviously STILL do not know what you’re talking about. we DO NOT BAN if you do not donate money to the site. those are NOT monthly dues intended for everyone to have to pay. becoming a VIP member is an OPTION, not a requirement in any way whatsoever. any single person here, right now, can come to our site and sign up – and have access to the ENTIRE torrent system without fear of being banned for not donating. we only require users to maintain a .80 ratio.

    the VIP packages are just an upgraded option. you are NOT paying for access to torrents, thats just a plain false statement. as a VIP you are given access to same the content as on the torrent side of the site. but everything is all direct downloads from sites such as rapidshare/megashares etc.

    some of us like the idea of being able to get the same exact content as the torrent community. but at max download speeds. with no issue of maintaing ratio, OR anti p2p orgs trying to get us. thats all it is.

    i wish some of you morons would at least get your facts straight before talkin crap about us.

  78. tell the truth
    December 6th, 2007 | 12:31

    why don’t some site staff come here and give a little breakdown on the money-making…just curious…is it extremely profitable, or just very?

  79. syncfix
    December 6th, 2007 | 18:22

    Straight copy and paste from moviex site

    This is an idea for VIP’s.

    Ive heard that when you become VIP you get an unlimited download limit and therefore dont have to worry about getting banned for leeching, but, soon as your no longer VIP your then stung by the ratio mod and are banned until you seed back all that you leeched.

    Personally i dont think VIP’s should be paying/contributing for that, really when a VIP pays then i reckon there ratio should immediately get hidden (so then there paying for privacy and not to be called a leech), and also then the ratio should be paused, they download as much as they want soon as they become a normal member the ratio appears and its on exactly what it was before paying.

    Then they make a choice – do i carry on paying . for VIP for direct downloads and hidden ratio or just go back to bieng a free member – the way its set up at the moment its almost like the VIP’s are bieng forced back to becoming a VIP otherwise they get banned for crap ratio.

    I dont condone leeching but i feel that VIP’s are contributing to the site and so should be paying for privacy and basically to seed/leech how they want.

  80. d_bo
    December 7th, 2007 | 00:24

    its true that could become an issue. but most VIPers dont do much torrent downloading once they are VIP members. there really isnt any need to, to be honest. since everything thats posted on the torrent side of the site – we have access to as direct downloads on the VIP side.

    personally, once in awhile ill download something there via torrent. just for the sake of seeding back – and increasing my ratio. just tryin to help out our members is all. if people continue downloading with torrents while they are a VIP – its kinda stupid i think. why would you, when you have access to all the same content via direct downloads. id say at least 95pct of our VIP members make sure their ratio is at least 1:1 and the rest, dont really download torrents anymore.

    there are probably a handful of members here and there that might have a problem like stated in the post above. but most of us will never be in that position.

  81. gfdgfg
    December 7th, 2007 | 14:48

    moviex owners are getting rich off FREE content
    you’re paying for stuff that’s free, lol, suckers
    they take free content and put a price on it

  82. Moviesnax
    December 9th, 2007 | 00:43

    Why don’t you make moviex fully private like other private trackers? All I’ve seen are moviex bootlickers trying not to answer the question.

  83. dffddfddf
    December 9th, 2007 | 00:44

    Why don’t you make moviex a fully (PROPER) private tracker like other private trackers? Nobody really wants to answer that and instead the fanbois are avoiding the question by trying to turn it around. Lame.

  84. dffddfddf
    December 9th, 2007 | 00:45

    Grr double post..

  85. open
    December 14th, 2007 | 04:51

    man fcuk moviex. banned.

  86. open
    December 14th, 2007 | 04:51

    man fcuk moviex. banned. thank you for informing.

  87. Dennis
    December 21st, 2007 | 07:45

    Whats the problem with this? You all are missing one major point. The site is free and open for registrations. Instead of complaining about all this crap, why not take those 5 minutes and register and not have the problem at all?

    Instead of thinking of this as being a leech method, think of it as a message saying “Register on our site for free to get our content”…

  88. Bottomburp
    December 27th, 2007 | 09:12

    If loder is everything that is good and Moviex is everything that is bad, why does loder ALWAYS put a link to the moviex website on his PB uploads? Loder must approve of Moviex or he would not add the link to each upload.

  89. lorry
    December 28th, 2007 | 09:26

    want to know why you should remove the moviex tracker
    cause they sell and report info to the big M.D.

  90. Rama
    December 28th, 2007 | 11:06

    First off all LOADER is an uploader on MovieX,

    without him your all out of quicker releases

    get real all you haters

    rslog pwns u all

  91. Texas
    December 29th, 2007 | 17:49

    Thanks for the heads-up. I knew Loder was just a bot controlled by the fascist govt of swedan, or worse stealing from other torrent-users.

  92. Anon
    December 31st, 2007 | 08:16

    I say, if you can’t beat them join them…. let me explain, A while ago I joined moviex and dl’d a flick i wanted, then low and behold my ratio turned to crap because the seeder/leecher ratio was heavy on the seeders and nil on leechers and i was banned from even attempting to even search their site for some crap that had a high leecher to seeder ratio in order to raise my own ratio to a level that lifted the ban. (pay attention this isn’t just some rant, there is good stuff coming) So after searching feverishly for a way to get my ratio up and continuing to seed the flick i had (that had no leechers to help), i was on the verge of giving up when i came accross the artical about the moviex “leech” trackers that were loaded on with the public tracker from TPB. The light bulb when off… I typed on TPB in the search bar “moviex” and the top ten results were media that contained the leech tracker that moviex had attached along with the public TPB tracker. Using utorrent i highlighted the original file i dl’d from moviex that had crapped out my ratio and reviewed “properties” which then showed the tracker moviex had assigned to me for that dl. Low and behold in the middle of the tracker url is a my personal “key” which I then proceded to copy and paste over the leeching moviex tracker url that i had picked up from TBP torrent (again highlighting the dl and choosing “properties” to see both the TPB tracker url and the moviex tracker url). Now of course TPB media that i chose to do this with was loaded with leechers which in turn quickly raised my ratio with moviex and (tip: in utorrent I dialed down the dl rate to 6kbs and left the upld rate unlimited) Now that I had supplied myself with a fresh load of leechers and had attached the moviex tracker with my key, my ratio is now tripled and i no longer fret being banned. ( if i had wanted to speed the process even further I could have deleted the TPB tracker url as well) So why did I go through all that and not just leave moviex in the dust and join some other private site? I find stuff there i can’t find anywhere else…. nuff said

  93. specializt
    January 5th, 2008 | 01:05

    “Im not saying Moviex is right, but if Moviex did not exist, you would have to get 75% of Scene releases from private trackers”

    ROFL! I was an Admin there, i saw their Tactics, i knew the strategys … Simple Solution: Leech new Files via FTP or BT, upload them to a bought RS-Premium-Account, force every User of Moviex to pay for the Link and the login, sit back get payed for about 30 min work / day.
    MovieX does _nothing_ for teh Community, all they do is leech and re-release stuff. They´re pretty much what one would call “a Relay”. PLUS: They charge a lot of money for a few Downloads which also can be obtained elswehere for free (a few hours later maybe).

  94. specializt
    January 5th, 2008 | 01:09

    so you really want to say that you get rare stuff on moviex? rotflol. Obviously, you dont know how to search things … i tried it several weeks … i found _nothing_ which could´nt be obtained elsewhere, my friend

  95. steve
    January 5th, 2008 | 07:24

    I can’t believe people actually bought this article, clearly the public torrent-sharing community is being raped. It goes against the principal of file “SHARING”.

    Who cares if some guy is uploading a bunch of torrents with this tracker, it doesn’t make it right!

    Talk about being duped, must be american! Most homogenized people on the planet

  96. Mishkin
    January 5th, 2008 | 16:41

    The ratio is system is quite fair. But for moviex, you have to donwload some crap in order to have a “1.0″ ratio.

    Stupid isn’t it?

  97. noobcake
    January 6th, 2008 | 23:40

    what is this “the scene” everybody is talking about?

  98. wtfever
    January 17th, 2008 | 07:59

    You didn’t look at moviex very closely. They are a ratio enforced tracker, and their ratio handling is designed to lock out any user that hasn’t paid money. It’s a total scam.

    It is good for paying members of moviex, but for every person that benefits, thousands are screwed over… seeding to people that do not give back and help them complete their torrent. As a result, your download speed goes down, because you’re peering with people that are leeches.

    moviex = tracker for assholse

  99. steve
    January 17th, 2008 | 08:14

    why are you muppets all whinging, just dl from here/tpb. once downloaded & you have joined moviex just dl torrent again from there with your own personal key & upload whatever you like. easy to get ratio of 100/1+ as you’re not using your key to download anything from there in the first place only to seed :)

  100. Idonno
    January 20th, 2008 | 18:53

    Finally an honest post on Moviex. If it weren’t for all the ‘leechy jerks’ there would be no need for a place like Moviex in the first place. I can’t tell you all the times I seed to multiple ‘leechy jerks’ who never return the favor after their torrent completes so I can stop seeding with out cutting everyone off. Over and over people just cut and run after completing their torrent. Moviex has a refreshing policy of requiring a 1.1 to1 ratio and they will automatically ban you for anything less than 70%. I wish it was 110% to make up for the 10% who actually pay to keep the site going (MovieX has no adds and annoying Pop-ups) and therefore don’t have a mandatory ratio. I joined Moviex today After being impressed buy the rules. Realized Moviex was blocked and researched the issue. Moviex posted some very compelling rebuttals Like all the Torrents with the Double trackers do allow non-members to leech (The tracker belonging to MovieX allow non-members to leech but only up to a certain point at witch time they can still seed to moviex. After all they did leech from Moviex. Only fair! And they can continue to leech off the other tracker. If the other tracker is now dead due to all the ‘leechy jerks’ on public trackers Moviex should not be to blame. But it is exactly why more decent P2P’ers will join communities like Moviex and all the ‘leechy jerks’ are complaining. If all P2P’ers were considerate there would be no complaints, Probably no MovieX and plenty of live torrents for everyone.

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