MovieX leeching case, another point of view
I felt somehow empathizing this morning when I read the stupid article at Torrentfreak, which was linked by some of our readers. The story basically moans about private MovieX tracker and their seeding methods. Long story short: these guys create torrents with 2 trackers and upload them to ThePirateBay. The first tracker is obviously public TPB and the second one is their own private MovieX tracker.
What’s the author of this hateful article complaining about is the fact, that MovieX doesn’t allow leeching from their tracker if you aren’t a registered user, but it allows to seed. This results in better speeds for registered users of that tracker, who can download from both private seeders and public users, who finished the download. On the other hand, users not registered at this private site will be available to download only from other public users, possibly resulting in slightly slower download speed.
The MovieX community has grown pretty fast recently due to this method and it now contains over 230 000 registered users. The thing which noone realized: it’s still open – you can go there right now, register and enjoy the benefits as all other users. There’s no catch, no registration fee or anything else, so it’s just those 2 minutes which will take you to fill the forms and the whole arguement is over.
Finally, I know the uploader of all those torrents who is known as loder at TPB. This guy does an awesome job for the BitTorrent community by releasing hundreds of scene only torrents just few moments after the pre (they are also appearing on NewTorrents.info, as this website focuses only on scene releases). He’s also seeding them at fast, dedicated 100 Mbit line. Without his daily work, there won’t be any of those fresh releases available to everyone, no matter if you can download them from public tracker or MovieX. I really urge those people who have nothing better to do than writing some stupid articles to think about it a bit and actually start doing something useful before they spit out their words of hatred – or at least shut up and silently appreciate the work of others.
Comments(208)
Uhm.. considering the pace of uppen the torrents to TPB, I’m assuming that loder is merely a bot. <.<
Fully agree. I don’t think people realise just how much Loder uploads.
http://thepiratebay.org/user/loder/
If you still have an issue with Loder try Heon instead
http://thepiratebay.org/user/He0n/
Agreed!
I dont have a problem with MovieX, i think its a good idea to let users seed to the private tracker. If i still used torrents i would have registered to movie x.
i just saw the number of peers when i downloaded the kingdom yesterday night, and there were 3500+ seeds and 69 leechers….
thats pretty insane……and it happens with every release….
It’s a (wide?) known fact in TPB that loder is not a “he”, merely a bot. From where we don’t know, maybe from hell? But oh, what a sweet hell it is…
#6 Jeunas
He is frm sweden Bro………
Maybe these haters were not around before Loder turned up. PB was on a downward spiral, and it was really hard to get Scene releases on PB till he turned up. I joined Moviex just to read the Nfo details, something people still complain about. As long as you download the torrents from PB it does not touch a ratio.
So to sum up….Loder is great and these people need to get a life.
its just another way the private sites rape the bittorrent community for their own needs.
they are not sharers they are leechers.
could this be because their members dont seed sh!t so they have to rape the bittorrent community to keep their crappy site going!
private sites are the pits.
they say they are part of the community but this just proves that they only want the community for their own needs.
MovieX sucks my balls.
And it likes it.
Strange thing about all this is normaly I join a Loder torrent in the first few hours of its life and experience has taught me not to delete the moviex tracker because the torrent speed actually drops not increases in speed.
@9 and 10
You two just sum up your ignorance. The whole point is he uploads to the tracker on PB. So whats your problem. All you do is delete the Moviex tracker in your torrent client.
But Im sure you can buy the product or STFU.
MovieX goes against the principle of filesharing and P2P. Sure, it’s a nice function but hey, they steal bandwidth from you while you get nothing back.
Yeah I dont either mate, I dont care who I seed to, I can have the full dvd or whatever and my ratio will be 0.200 or something, so Im hardly getting raped..
@ 8.. LOL.. no TPB has been going stronger and stronger, content on the tracker does not equal “strenght”, not with what TPB is doing that no other tracker seems to do.
People dont get the purpose of TPB, its not there to merely give you scene stuff, it has a greater purpose.
As for the “article”, well i think its good!
not that many know that they give without recieving to movieX, and if not educational it shows what to watch out for.
Not everyone got unlimited bandwith and want to recieve when they give, witch is the very basics on how torrents work. you give and you recieve. movieX exploited the basics of bittorrent, jsut for its users while screwing non-users.
Perfectly fair to get flamed for it
dont try and support this stuff, next we know all private trackers do this and people give away tons but get little in return.
its bad practice imo.
@15
Nah I think you are wrong there. I used to be a member of TL, the scene releases were thick and fast, but when you looked at PB, they were about 2 months behind, if you got them at all. If it was not for Loder and Heon, there would not be 75% of the scene releases, simple as that.
And how are MovieX exploiting anyone, if you only have an upload of 30k, then they might get 10 and PB might get 20, whats the problem.
If people dont like it, use newsgroups.
What the hell!
It hurts overall bt speeds, for the VERY selfish reason of moviex getting somer google AdSense clicks.
The torrentfreak article isnt hatemongering in any way. It is FAR more objective than the article above. And finally, dont delete my post.
Best Regards
/hottuna
AMEN to that Martin!
hottuna
I dont know what you mean. If Loder did not upload at all, there would not be any Scene releases anyway. So I would rather lose some upload bandwidth than have nothing at all. And I think you will find the “community” does not really exist, the people who seed more than a couple of days, are unusual rather than the norm. So everyone is as bad as each other.
Someone remember Torrentbytes? It sure is nice to have some site with all the info about what you downloaded and how much helped to spread an illegal file… morons
Anyone knows if there is a way to auto block moviex tracker using utorrent? I mean permanetly, not just deleting manualy everytime.
It is simple REMOVE THE MovieX tracker from ALL your downloads containing it. You will connect to only real-time sharers. I’ve been doing it since MovieX starting spreading its filthy tracker around.
This is uploader of these trackers is anything but a good person. HE is NOT a bot. HE is only interested in raising donations for his MovieX site.
This type of slime should be banned from torrents sites everywhere
And RSLOG also benefits from this creep, they are just as slimy…
Martin is merely trying to protect his own investments with this article.
NICE ONE.
and for those who arent aware loder is also one of the founders of moviex. and he IS NOT a bot – hes a person who runs 5 comps 24 hours a hour on a 100 mbit line that does nothing but seed on that connection.
on another note. you think we’re just a bunch of public torrent bandwidth stealing peers ? explain our tracker stats then please
Data Transferred: We have tracked 7801.07 TB in uploads & 755.46 TB in downloads totalling 8556.52 TB
Total: We are tracking a total of in 21734 torrents totaling 839164 files
Share ratio: The current seeder to peer ratio is 28.13
yeah boy – all we do is leech and download huh….oh wait…
NOT
You really dont get it do you. Who do you think is still seeding to you when you delete the MovieX tracker. The same guy you idiot. So if you really hate him that much, delete both trackers you tw@.
MovieX sucks big time due to their definition of “leeching”.
They “banned” me several times because I was a leecher due to their definition because I didn’t had a share ration of at least 0.9.
Also it looks like their torrents set their own tracker to a higher priority than the one of TPB since it bans you and you get nothing, not even from the public tracker.
Also I have to agree with 13: it’s against the principals of p2p.
I don’t register to allow them to sell my email adress… f’ them.
I think you are all so blind its unreal, if you download stuff and seed it to a ratio of over 1, then you are giving and getting nothing back. So how is that any different. Just because you have no ratio number and smiley faces, you think you are getting robbed. Its all free, who gives a sh1t.
REMOVE THE MovieX tracker from ALL your downloads containing it.
REMOVE THE MovieX tracker from ALL your downloads containing it.
BEST ADVICE EVER!
Cheers to martin for clearing this up
for all you immature pricks who dont know how we work, go read something before commenting
thanks again martin
enjoy all!
I read PeerGuardian have put moviex on a blocklist, is this true?
Rama
December 1st, 2007 | 13:34
Cheers to martin for clearing this up
for all you immature pricks who dont know how we work, go read something before commenting
How who works ? Read what ?
Do you perhaps mean read all the scene release NFOs that refer to those releasing their works on p2p as wankers ?
cain – i wont go as far as saying there wouldnt be any scene releases without him. but what i can say is that he personally has single handedly uploaded 5,000 TB at moviex alone and tons more directly seeding to TPB and other sites/trackers
i think its safe to say. he greatly affects the speeds and availability of content
Cain
I think you are way of track, we are talking about PB not p2p.
The whole thread is about PB and Moviex.
So wind your neck in. I think you will also find, if you typed a new scene relase into BTjunkie, it will come up with all the private trackers and Loders ones on PB, so you are talking total sh1t.
And Im not a fanboi, I used to use newsgroups, because I hated private trackers, I came back to torrents because of all the scene releases on PB. But Im obviously makeing that up. Blow it out yer arse.
It is simple REMOVE THE MovieX tracker from ALL your downloads containing it. You will connect to only real-time sharers. I’ve been doing it since MovieX starting spreading its filthy tracker around.
This is uploader of these trackers is anything but a good person. HE is NOT a bot. HE is only interested in raising donations for his MovieX site.
This type of slime should be banned from torrents sites everywhere
And RSLOG also benefits from this creep, they are just as slimy…
Martin is merely trying to protect his own investments with this article.
NICE ONE.
+1
#34 – how many times are you going to repeat yourself, in your pathetic attempts at hurting the moviex community and make us look bad ?
come up with something new chump
@WTF?
Yeah you are just as clever…who do you think is still seeding it to you….or do you not know how p2p works then. Even if you dont get it from him directly, you are getting it from someone who is….fs what is up with you people ?
loder is god-
people just love to jump on the bandwagons that pass them by. they want to feel important. they want to create an evil target in there minds. something to focus their stupidity on i suppose. noone ever said everyone who deals with the BT community is very smart.
most have no idea wtf they are talking about. most just repeat crap others say
t is simple REMOVE THE MovieX tracker from ALL your downloads containing it. You will connect to only real-time sharers. I’ve been doing it since MovieX starting spreading its filthy tracker around.
This is uploader of these trackers is anything but a good person. HE is NOT a bot. HE is only interested in raising donations for his MovieX site.
This type of slime should be banned from torrents sites everywhere
And RSLOG also benefits from this creep, they are just as slimy…
Martin is merely trying to protect his own investments with this article.
NICE ONE.
+2
REMOVE THE MOVIEX TRACKER.
oh look its the same “WTF” tard once again repeating the same thing, just changed the display name. omg how clever!
idiot …
Yawn……….mmmmm, wish I could change my username and paste the same info. That would be really cool….
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3916463/Pirates.Of.Ghost.Island.2007.DVDRip.XviD-MEDiAMANiACS
Loders just uploaded it.Only 23 peers. Hope the doubters keep away.
@Cain
What, the whole point of the article is Loder uploading a torrent to PB and MovieX. And just because something is indexed, its still on PBs tracker. And I am a member of MovieX, but only for ther info the bot does not post, so I am hardly a fanboi…and its not as ridiculous as it sounds that 1 person does the lot…
http://thepiratebay.org/user/loder
You show me one more user, that uploads this many scene releases every day…
Theres no point in saying anything else as you are obviously a troll who cant read.
Flame wars in the morning
Find no harm in either using MovieX,TPB och NewTorrents.info, only a matter of taste.
Loder is God
December 1st, 2007 | 13:43
“@WTF? Yeah you are just as clever…who do you think is still seeding it to you….or do you not know how p2p works then.”
If you know how p2p works, you’ll figure out the point of the original article is that you are getting it from nobody via the moviex tracker.
You were just telling us about how long you’ve been involved in filesharing. Happen to pick up any vibes during all that time, any opinions when it comes to leeches, let alone a deliberately designed system for forced leeching ?
I spent only a small amount of time involved in FTP during the 90s and it took about 5min for me to get filled in on how leeches are regarded. Any thoughts of your own ?
“before they spit out their words of hatred…”
Martin, when trying to learn the English language you really shouldn’t look to Bond villains for examples.
@Mechanism
Well you thats hardly a surprise, they all use the same trackers.
43, madstan:
“http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3916463/Pirates.Of.Ghost.Island.2007.DVDRip.XviD-MEDiAMANiACS
Loders just uploaded it.Only 23 peers. Hope the doubters keep away.”
Yeah, I’m sure we’re all rushing to get that anticipated release.
LOL at 49
@Cain
Well I did all the FTP stuff as well, using #warez and..!list…
Thank god, torrents came along, it means I dont have to sit at my computer, watching wankers deleting folders on Public FTP’s. or getting binned off Private FTPs when they changed the passwords. Newsgroups are the best, but thats another thing you have to trawl thru, to find releases.
But Im a leech myself really, so thats why I dont complain to much, if you read a post of mine before, I can get a full “add whatever it is” and have a seeding ratio of 0.200, so Im hardly getting raped.
Public trackers are loved because of leeches, there is anonimity on PB, so no one knows you get to 100% and stop seeding. Thats why people like it, but they make up some sh1t about a community …yeah right.
Dont really care where my data goes, my ratio is only some crappy 0,1-0,2 because my upload is so sucky (128kbit, limited to 6kb/sec, so i can use the internet too), so joining MovieX is kidda pointless. I would spend 5-10x as much time uploading if i had to keep ratio. I let the people with better uploads take the lionshare of the sharing.
Cain is God
December 1st, 2007 | 14:00
“@Cain What, the whole point of the article is Loder uploading a torrent to PB and MovieX. ”
He’s not even mentioned, but the entire article is about him is it ? Yeah, right.
“You show me one more user, that uploads this many scene releases every day…”
Why ? He is irrelevant. As are the complaints from both you and Martin.
Pay attention here. Nobody has published an article that attacks that uploader and nobody has published an article that defends moviex. Okay ?
Torrentfreak criticised moviex’s leech-only tracker.
Martin here has decided (for an as yet unexplained reason) this is a criticism of 1 person who uses their tracker.
The two aren’t related.
So why do you keep referring to this guy as though he needs defending ?
I’ll tell you how he could be defended, by not using moviex. If this guy choses ANY OTHER TRACKER IN EXISTANCE other than the one run as a leeching operation.
What’s Martin’s gripe with the article then eh ?
For you, is he no longer doing then just what he is today ?
Kinda simple to figure out don’t you think ?
And the massive sacrifice involved is to stop associating yourself with the now most despised BT site on the internet. FFS.
“Theres no point in saying anything else as you are obviously a troll who cant read.”
That’s a strange criticism after admitting at the start of this post that you never read the article in question in the first place.
I agree with those who dislike what MovieX is doing. It’s not proper, and I hope the site gets nailed hard for being leeching jerks.
@Cain
Wow are you some sort of Psycho…
Your previous post was quite a friendly point asking me about leeches.
Your next one is a mental rant about nothing.
Think you need help mate.
It really is this simple, Loder or whoever uploads scene releases to a public tracker, and I dont notice the bandwidth that goes to the Hell tracker. And I get what I want.
So who gives a sh1t.
Cain is God
December 1st, 2007 | 14:11
“But Im a leech myself really, so thats why I dont complain to much,”
And it looks like we’re done here.
Ah… the last word.
Its nice to get it. Never said I was anything else mate, go back to your L33t trackers who want you to pay so you can have VIP..***** and bouncing faces everywhere. Err no thanks..
Hit and Run…I loves it
I always remove the movieX tracker from the torrent! that tracker is the suck! i get BETTER download speeds without this tracket!
go TPB!
Yup, I delete MovieX trackers from my torrents too. The addition of a tracker that sucks off my seeding with no benefit to the community that provided me with the torrent is MAJOR DOUCHE BAGGERY!
Who cares as long as you get the release, it’s free. It is insane the sense of entitlement some of you get. Be grateful….for once.
I’m on moviex just because. My ratio is $h!t right now because the tracker itself doesn’t work correctly anyways.
I’ve uploaded just over 40 GB and downloaded about 20 over the time frame of 300 hrs. Still moviex doesn’t recognize anything. Damm thing still says “ul: 282.6 MB”… WTF?
If only it would recognize my efforts. I guess I’m an anomaly; I’ll get a HDTV rip of a show just so I can keep the torrent live for those who want it, whether or not I actually watched the frickin’ thing.
I’ll probably just talk to an admin and get my account deleted anyways, not worth the hassle anymore. F_[< it.
Later.
What is the best way to perm ban moviex using utorrent? It always come mixed to public trackers so I have to check and delete it manually every time, is there a better way to get rid of it? Can anyone give instructions for noobs please?
moviex buncha twats I agree with this article.
@62
How simple is it to double click it once its in Utorrent, then select the moviex tracker and delete.
Done
How hard is that ?
moviex works flawlessly and TPB is the best site we never have problems so who care man
Ernesto we like ur informative site(Especially when some site goes down) but right now ur just acting a bit weird
i have no problems with any of them and in world where ur getting things for free why complain:)
BAN IP (206.53.62.206) using either IPfilter or Peerguardian.
This will block access to MovieCrap tracker. Its already been submitted to blue-tack amongst others, so PG2 will start blocking this ip anyway, for all those running it.
If not, just google ‘how to remove a tracker for my torrent’ for easy instructions.
It really makes me laugh when people complain abot , without having a better word for it, “stolen” stuff anyway.
Everybody thinks they are owed something. You select it, and within a time frame, its there on your hard drive, without costing you a penny.
But people are never happy. Maybe we should get someone else to download it, then post it to you.
Or how about going to the shops and buying the f(_)cking thing
Well said Martin, I couldn’t agree more.
lol @ moviex. their strategy is busted…. the reason for uploading to tpb is not to share for the sake of sharing, but to exploit seeding. sure their are new releases for the public, but still its purpose is for the benefit of moviex. its just a strategy hehehe…
It really makes me laugh when people say stuff like “It really makes me laugh when people complain abot , without having a better word for it, “stolen” stuff anyway.”
Do you not have a word for the process in your language? What would be a better word?
You’re an inarticulate douchebag, 67.
@Petter
Mmmm you must be an American as you use the word “douchebag”. Either that or German with that name…
It was meant to highlight what Warez is. But I refer back to my initial line, you are all thick as f(_)ck anyway. So Whatever.
And I was born in the UK so wherever the f(_)ck you are from, I think I might be slightly better than you, you tit.
And if you read your post again, wtf are you on about anyway ?
Seriously, everyone of you all here is getting all this for free. So stop complaining. 67 is absolutely right.
Ok, you guys are right.. Sorry.
The MovieX conspiracy.!!!
Here’s there pricing policy.
This money:
“”Subscription Packages”” (their words not mine)
1 Month Access ( $6.00 )
3 Months Access ( $12.00, Save $6 )
5 Months Access ( $15.00, Save $15 )
7 Months Access ( $25.00, Save $17 )
9 Months Access ( $35.00, Save $19 )
12 Months Access ( $42.00, Save $30 )
24 Months Access ( $60.00, Save $84 )
Site should be turned in.
Hey I just really appreciate all the work they do upping stuff for us for free.
@73
Lol
Wow you just copied a made up name and pasted from the original thread.
All the private trackers work like that. Thats why a lot of us dont use them. Its not costing you any money to download, so you might as well put the price up for the DVDs and films we download for free. So well done.
Why not post all the private tracker VIP deals, it all works the same, you cant seed, you want to leech, so you pay.
Your post means F(_)ck all..
ehhhh i hate torrents ….. IRC baby!
Think Scandinavian, 71. Where’d you get German from anyway, are you people really that isolated?
I was just commenting on your inability to find a better word than ’stolen’. You’re just a kid but you should really take the time to learn the nuances of your language.
@76
Yeah downloading a DVD is so much fun from IRC….not !
@Petter
No… You are obviously not english, so you dont understand.
When you say, you cant find a better word for something, you are actually saying, I know it is “warez” but that is actually “stolen”.
But English is not your first language, I dont suppose you would get it.
But well done, your english skills on a keyboard are second to none, unfortunately, your country is boring, and you all commit suicide, so goodbye my dear Petter.
Thanks for your helpful post regarding the thread though.
i am an a***ole………………………..!
@Petter
“Do you not have a word for the process in your language? What would be a better word?”
This makes no sense either, you obviously learnt your english from a language cd.
Warez items would never be a process….you would never say an item is a process.
The “process” would be downloading a torrent, starting it up in a torrent client, and then utilizing the said item at a later date.
So I think I might have a slightly better grip on “my” language than you, I am also not a kid.
@80
Please stop you are making me sad.
Remember Santa wont come to your house to give you presents.
I’m guessing thatwhen archive.org scholars unearth this thread 50 years from now they’re going to rule in my favor. Quotation marks won’t save you from the judgement of history,
You’re thinking of Finland aren’t you? Swing and a miss. Finland’s a great place though.
You’re right about the helpful post though, I shouldn’t have tried to match yours.
Mmm
I have noticed a few faults with your posts.
Your punctuation is terrible, that needs work.
And I think you will find, that you were the one that trolled and had a go at my english.
But you are right, Im from the UK and Im isolated, thats from someone who lives in Scandanvia, the hub of the world of course.
I Like (.)(.) mmmm
Ah, you snuck in under the radar. The process I was referring to is obviously the act of copying something. It’s not ’stealing’, it’s copying.
How can you copy something you dont have.
Wrong again my Scandinavian friend.
i dunno why your acting so high and mighty for martin as though TF has said something bad …. im not a member of movieX nor do i want to be iv been removing there url from the tracker bit for ages, why should i upload to a private community that i never intend to be part of, id much rather give my upload speed to the public tracker …. it is sly methods on there behalf because they no alot of dumb people wont realise and wont join an keep seeding
Punctuation’s the hardest part to learn, but did you really need a comma between find and that? Is it bad form to begin a sentence with an ‘And’?
And I don’t think I started the trolling (see post 67) but I’m happy to escalate and be educated at the same time.
@88
You are right in what you sat…But
If Loder did not upload at all, I would have a lot less Films to watch and Games to play. So I think everybody has to be really careful, and for all you guys who think if Loder stops, someone else will come along.
Well maybe you are right, but I dont see what the problem is.
Its all bloody free, why does it bother everyone so much ?.
You dont care what low lifes get it for you, but you care who you give it back to, how stupid is that ?
MovieX is a scam. It’s so obvious that it’s just a way for the site owner to make tons of money.
They deserve to be turned in to the authorities, for profiteering from piracy, which is basically the ultimate sin from piracy (to not only steal, but to PROFIT from stealing).
@Petter
Yeah you got me. I can’t fault you there.
While you’re composing your answer I’m just going to point out that “How can you copy something you dont have.” is missing both correct punctuation and the point. I can copy someone’s file and they’ll still have it. It hasn’t been stolen.
Curses
Noooooooooooooooo……i am an a***ole
@91
You are taking the piss.
“They deserve to be turned in to the authorities, for profiteering from piracy, which is basically the ultimate sin from piracy (to not only steal, but to PROFIT from stealing).”
Every site you go to, has at least some adverts.
Lets turn them all in.
So you downloading a film, and not buying it, is “NOT” you profiteering from Piracy.
LOL…you make me laugh
Hey, Petter and CopyMe – you are so offtopic it’s not even funny.
How about you exchange e-mails and compare the size of your d!cks there.
As for the SUBJECT, if I see the moviex tracker once I’ve loaded a torrent, it takes 30 seconds to delete it. No problem.
@Petter
Your laws are a bit different from ours, and ours are a bit better than the Americans.
It will be no defense when the laws change though, it does not matter where you got it from, you have it, you have not paid for it. Its as simple as that.
Its like knowingly receiving stolen goods.
@hibby
Ok mate, fair point.
But the whole point is people are complaing about giving away something they got for free. Thats why Utorrent does not want to allow you to ban people, it would stop a55holes banning anyone they dont get peices from, and ruining the whole point of torrents.
Im not saying Moviex is right, but if Moviex did not exist, you would have to get 75% of Scene releases from private trackers, and that would be sh1t.
I dunno, I thought it was pretty interesting. I especially liked 95’s comment, nice to know someone took the time.
Your comment, hibby, looks like a common complaint and was mentioned some 60+ posts ago. What are you contributing?
Since we’re probably pushing it now that hibby’s on to us (30 seconds to delete a source, must take him a good 10 minutes to press Submit Comment) and this comment probably won’t help either, I’m going to bed. ‘night Copy Me. (You’re still wrong)
utorrent does allow you to ban ip adresses and it never takes long for releases to appear on public trackers with or without movieX
@ Petter,
How about this: YAWN! You are feckin’ boring pal – away and flame somewhere else.
lol at the lot of ya`s, YOUR GETTING SOMETHING FOR FREE!!!, Y`ALL STOP UR WHINING,CRYING, B!TCH!NG,BELLY-ACHING,AND “THE f(_)CKING WORLD OWES ME SOMETHING” ATTITUDES….. ITS ALL FREAKING FREE!!! AND WHO DOESNT LOVE SOMETHING FOR NOTHING?????
but thats just my 2 cents worth……….
@102
Nope. Go to Pirate Bay and look at all the new scene releases. Im a member of Swebits just to see what gets uploaded. Loder uploads at about the same time.
If you can show me, I will stand corrected, but as far as DVDRs go. Loder uploads 80% of them I reckon. I know this for a fact, as I had to be a member of Filelist and Torrentleech to get anything at all a year or so ago, now the same stuff gets uploaded on PB, just because of Loder.
But..Im bored now, you lot will not be happy till there is f(_)ck all just to prove a point.
awww im not allowed to post no more
loder rules
MovieX is disgusting what they are doing. It gives the message about leeching but it is a leecher design by itself! If you don’t register all it does is take your bandwidth and you get nothing in return!
Listen moviex if you want private then make it private in ALL ways. Private seeding and private leeching. Not this half public leeching nonsense. All this is is a cheap and disgusting way to get people to register and make money for the site, while stealing bandwidth from those who don’t want to register.
No worries hibby, I’m sorry I made you read all that while you were waiting for replies to your post.
@MovieHex
You do realise how stupid you look, by complaining about “stealing bandwidth”, but you probably scoff at Sony and the likes for complaining about getting their products “stolen”.
How different are we ?
Yes, all thieves have a code, well thats b0ll0x as well..
oops didnt know there was a page 2.. srry rlslog
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While I do appreciate the irony that we’re all thieving stuff the point is moviex IS 100% leeching if you do not register. You sure like to post here defending that practice with obsfucating “logic” don’t you? Look that up in a dictionary if you don’t understand what it means.
I’ll repeat for you. Public trackers, you share, you get back as well. moviex you get nothing back, unless you register. That is basically trying to force people to register, for ultimately making profit. So go ahead and make up some useless comparison to things totally unrelated you can’t deny this basic fact.
If I only download and zero upload than I am a leech. It’s the same damn thing what moviex are doing they are only taking and not giving back (unless you register, *cough*get the forced hint?*cough*)
moviex rules…. i used torrents from day dot and they were good till i found moviex… i joined for free i might add then i jioned VIP… then u dont have to use torrents…. all direct downloads with your free rapidshare account or megashare account… all for like 15 bucksor some thing stupid…. get your tight fisted hands in those cob web ridden pockets and shed some dollars then life becomes easy.
Yes, MovieX is stealing bandwith.
p2p is giving and receiving. I receive nothing, so they steal bandwith from me that I could use to support people who actually earned my bandwith because the gave me theirs.
“moviex rules…. i used torrents from day dot and they were good till i found moviex… i joined for free i might add then i jioned VIP… then u dont have to use torrents…. all direct downloads with your free rapidshare account or megashare account… all for like 15 bucksor some thing stupid…. get your tight fisted hands in those cob web ridden pockets and shed some dollars then life becomes easy.”
Thanks for admitting the profiting. Proper authorities have been contacted.
@Moviehex
Its not 100% leeching though is it. Ive already said about 100 posts ago that I can get a DVDR and only have a share ratio of 0.200.
So, ok, even I was surprised they leeched off me, but Ive actually lost nothing.
For all I know, the Scene groups could be a bunch of thieving scumbags, but I dont care.
It really does not make that much difference, you were seeding anyway, who cares who gets it, you are just glad you got it. Its not cost YOU anything.
MovieX is a private tracker. If you download a torrent,from another site and it has the MovieX tracker attached to it, then you will not connect to the MovieX tracker.. EVEN if you are a registered member of MovieX… You MUST download the torrent from the MovieX website from the computer you are wishing to attach to the tracker, tobe able to connect to anyone on the MovieX tracker.. That includes ANY seed or leech.. The only way you can mix/match trackers, is if they are all sharing the SAME files… so if I add TPB tracker to my movieX torrent, then yes I could leech from them. I could do this with ANY other tracker that is public and is sharing the SAME file as I was getting from a private tracker.. People quit hating on MovieX.. It is a good site, with a good communtity.. If you can’t share and get banned, then so be it.. You are only good for a public tracker.. Private trackers have rules you must abide by tobe able to use the tracker.. Public trackers have rules, but aren’t inforced.. Thus Private trackers give better speed than public..
-TJW-
bla, bla, bla
Its a scam, a money pit, the worst of all things p2p, and they are using public sites to get rich.
May MovieX die an explicit death. -In prison.
I was posting about this six months ago, right here on this website. I stated that moviex was using TPB to dupe dummies and noobs into seeing to their private tracker. It’s easy to say go join Moviex, but if you HAVE ever joined, and, lets say, you don’t use it for awhile cuz it suxxx, then go back and can’t remember you’re user name or password, you’ re screwed. You can’t get back in till you get a new IP address. If you download something and don’t instantly seed 1:1 (lets say you donwload a movie, stop the torrent to extract it and your at 700mb down 200 mb up, you go to restart the torrent, and it wont let you in. You go back to the moviex site, and you’re banned for not uploading enough.
These guys are everything that is wrong with filsharing. Alot of new people will come along and use TPB alot and not realize that the 6kb/s download speed they’re getting is because they’re uploading at 100kb/s to the moviex tracker. I would LOVE to find these idiots that run it, I’d kick their asses for stealing people’s bandwidth. I absolutely despise moviex and try and avoid TPB as much as I can so they don’t get nothing from me.
Well some of what you say is valid.
But my ISP is limited to 850 down and 20 up. I can get a well seeded DVDR off them MovieX/TPB tracker/s in a day or two,and I get the torrent from TPB.
So whats the problem ?
How exactly am I losing out ?
Everything is a conspiracy or some sh1t to a lot of you, just be gratreful for goodness sake.
The whole point, is the file/s you are getting in the first place are bloody knicked.
Get a life ffs.
Go and buy the DVD that will learn them.
the one thing u have to watch out for with sites like MovieX, is that the Feds will hit those ones first since they have a database of their users with IPs recorded.
@Bob
As long as you use P2P, your IP is wide open anyway.
Peergaurdian and IPfilter are always a good idea, but they dont hide you totally.
Some people think they are bulletproof because they use them, maybe they need to know its not that simple.
A list of IPs mean nothing anyway, its getting caught downloading that gets you.
Something to think about with some BT programs u can limit ur UPload and keep ur download unlimited and get better download speeds. so if ur upping at 100kb/s and only Downloading at 10kb/s u might want to drop ur uploads to about 50kb/s.
I think what moviex is doing is called stealing. They are stealing bandwith from users without giving back anybit.
Im deleting their trackers from my downloads.
My 2 cents…
Loder is not a bot, he simply has a 100MB line for seeding…
An official statement has been released, it is posted at one of the digg articles and at the slyck.com article post comments…
Metalfan
As Ive said in previous posts, what we are doing is stealing.
And your point is again ?
WeDontCare
If you like to give a part of your bandwith to moviex, with nothing in return, you can do it…
Martin, Martin, Martin.
In this particular case, your head is up you bum.
For YOU to have written you spiteful little article in favour of a private site leeching from the community.. really just shows what a twit you actually are.
Some of the garbage you are writting is really beyond a joke.
Martin, you admit that what torrent freak guy said is a fact and yet you don’t see a problem with it? and further more you defend moviex for doing it?????
You’re also saying weird stuff like “slightly slower download speed”, do you download from public trackers to say that?
or are you trying to abuse you popularity amongst rlsloggers for some unexplained interest?
shame
It’s only a matter of time before MovieX will get the axe, the same way Oink and Demonoid went. So all this shouting at eachother is pointless.
Still, from now on I will delete the MovieX tracker. I don’t like this tricky bussiness they do.
As a non member of moviex i find it strange that i am able to leech from their tracker, strange turn of events as thats never happened before 12/01/2007 @ 20:06 GMT……as i deleted the TPB tracker to make sure..yes sure enough i continued to leech from the moviex tracker alone, is this a turn of events or just an accident….il let you lot decide and comment…..
a bunch of idiots complaining about reseeding to a tracker community without whom they wouldn’t have leeched that torrent anyway…
lamers!
thumbs up Martin.
Tried the same thing as Unidentified Trading Object but with a new torrent.It would “appear” that now I am leeching off Moviex.
Does anybody else get the same result.
The only reason people are complaining is because they know if they join moviex they’ll get banned because their leechers.
WANT TO KNOW A NEAT LITTLE TRICK? (1)join MovieX (2)start a d/l from them (3)if using utorrent,go to the properties of the torrent,an copy the VALID tracker of movieX, paste to notepad (4) everytime you d/l a torrent that has MovieX tracker giving you the “your only allowed to seed” notification,DELETE the old movieX tracker and copy/paste your VALID tracker from your notepad an VOLIA!!!instant leeching from them,take what ya want then DISAPPEAR!!!!!
No you get banned.
i havent……… yet…lol;p
@ Áçê§
And since they have read this. It will probably not work for much longer.
Doh !
Had never been to the MovieX site. Just joined up and started to build my ratio..Looks like a good site.
First of all, loder isn’t a bot morons! He responds to comments, I’ve seen over 400 comments from loder himself. Him and a bunch of axxo fans were going at it on several axxo torrents.
Without loder there wouldn’t be a piratebay. Also for those who say aXXo re-encodes scene releases your just a bunch of wanna-be scene fans. Bring some evidence to show he re-encodes the scene releases wankers. Only nubs go by date releases, LMFAO!
I’ve been getting scene releases since 1991. Your all a bunch of nubs who use inferior torrent & rapidshare technology.
too many comments to read, i agree even though i download from tl
First off i’m a VIP member of MovieX, but NEVER download anthing from there directly, I get the links from NT via this site. Quite simply, if you’re going to moan about this little scheme join MovieX, download ANY torrent and copy your passkey url from that torrent. Now everytime you download a torrent from a tracker that includes MX in the trackers, replace the original with your own passkey. Sorted. Not only will you get download BW from TPB users but also other MX members.
Oh but I forgot, MX is a ratio site so no hit and run. Maybe thats why people are moaning? (not that I agree with ratio sites, but there you go, got to follow the rules of the tracker eh?)
real stupid article Moviex vert good site think so if moviex gone wtf all public get new movie game in tim and can get download free idnont understand some people real………………. and Moviex tracker Oline now
140, loderfan:
“I’ve been getting scene releases since 1991. Your all a bunch of nubs who use inferior torrent & rapidshare technology.”
Dad, stop trolling the internets.
Took less than hour to get banned by low ratio, guess it’s not right place for 8/2 Mbit connection…
What’s the point to get fast d/l speed in bittorrent and get banned because you can’t upload as fast you download?
ratio is not just to encourage seeding, but its the main money making strategy for private sites. if you cant seed, they you buy your ratio.
another moviex strategy is direct downloads (if your vip)
“If you like to give a part of your bandwith to moviex, with nothing in return, you can do it…”
Nothing in return? your downloading from a 100mbit seed box cluster….
Indeed
Anybody who steals software and gives it away as a free download via the internet is a pirate. I somehow like pirates. Very often they critcize too high prices with their… well… theft.
But whoever wants to make money by providing downloads only to registered users (and a registered user needs a working e-mail-address which is worth a lot of money to those phatazzes behind spambots), is no longer a pirate. He should not be a member of PIRATE bay. He should start his own site and stick with his own (sort of paying) “customers”.
I will delete EVERY movie-x reference in my Pirate Bay torrents. If the guys behind movie-x want to seed for free, then do so. If you don’t want it, then close your public seeding. But this would, of course, mean, that you’d loose the public uploaders (who, by the way, seed FOR FREE and for everybody – no registration needed). Might that hurt your movie-x-business? Yes? GREAT!
The “paying customers” take from me, but they give me nothing. Instead they’re giving to Movie-X. Who, of course, give me a bit of their bandwidth. Just enough to allow me to seed to their paying customers.
No. Bad deal for me. Either the paying customers (not Movie-X) take AND GIVE (high speed for everybody & the true spirit of sharing), or they take only from those who get paid to give. It’s as simple as that.
“”Wow, who would have thought that Martin would have been so easily fooled?
Sorry to hear that you drank the Kool-aid Martin, but MovieX is totally in the wrong here. Maybe the deal that rlslog has with Newtorrents requires Martin to defend the MovieX/Newtorrents alliance, but you shouldnt defend them at the expense of your own readers on this site.
Hope they are paying you well enough to make it worth it
”"
Never more correct. Rslog, Newtorents, and MovieX are all bound together in money agreements.
I use to enjoy this site, well a little, now I piss on it, and will be sure as many others as possible piss on it too.
Martin may your biased posts and you die.! Dont dare to show you face on certain forums. You will be shot.
For those that dont know, RSLOG is also uploading passworded torrents to public sites in order to spark more income from particular program sales (malware).
A few have been found publicly. When I get my hands on one again, or if any of you do, direct them to torrentfreak.
Wow…
Ive just been reading on Amazon and Play.com, they are wanting me to pay for a DVD, its the same with CD’s and all the games.
Surely this is wrong. I think they might be making a profit as well.
This is all wrong.
The problem is not loader. The problem is Utorrent, the closed source spyware mesh.
listen ..you idiots! now the tracker says “working”, but only because you are idiots!
I actually liked the honesty behind the message “leeching is forbidden”, and i for one, UNDERSTAND
..but you, most of you that is, are idiots.
@black frank
Why does Loder upload dual tracker torrents on TPB then. Thats what annoys people. I personally could not give a toss !!
i wonder how much crying you guys will do once our co founder known on TPD as loder stops releasing his content there. i bet then you guys cry and complain and say “you’re not sharing to the community! you guys are greedy! you guys suck! you guys are killing the BT!” etc etc etc i cant wait ti laugh lol its going to be great
hello all i am the one of the Founders of MovieX.info aka ®ama
All these accusations against us has been brought to my attention as this has gone out of control and the post by p2pvine has disappointed me as their research has left out some key points .
Let me start off by saying, we are not leeching from any community or leeching from public members. After reading this you will see that our system is actually not set to leech but fairly setup as we are a private tracker site.
I will give you a quick breakdown of how our system works and a full response to p2pvine
The torrents posted on TPB are originally coming from our uploader on MovieX also a founder, he is known on TPB as loder.
He gets all content from a direct source and he then turns that content into a torrent file which is then posted on TPB with the pirate bay tracker including the MovieX Tracker including our site name which is a mere form of advertising.
Now remember he is SEEDING ON BOTH trackers the pirate bay one and our one. Now when someone downloads from the pirate bay, where do you think that brandwith and content is coming from? its coming directly from an uploader we have at MovieX as he made that torrent and posted it. He is using his own connection to seed to the PUBLIC AND PRIVATE MEMBERS. Is this considered stealing? If he is seeding to the public using a public tracker, i do not see how p2pvine came to the conclusion that we are leeching when clearly we are giving back alot
Your probably wondering why do you get “leeching forbidden, your only allowed to seed error?” Be advised that passkey which is a guest passkey and has a peer limit, when that peer limit is reached it will give you that error. We do allow downloading from that guest passkey but only up to a certain point, but due to the over growing demand you probably wont get a chance as too many peers are connected to that passkey. However you will still be able to download using TPB tracker
If we didn’t have a peer limit on the guest passkey, members can leech like crazy and not even bother joining and ignoring all ratio rules….so therefore you will only be allowed to seed after you finish downloading
Now remember if you get a torrent from the pirate bay and you see the moviex tracker along with the pirate bay tracker, you will only be able to download from the pirate bay tracker, if your lucky and not many peers are connected to that our guest tracker you will also be able to download from the MovieX tracker, but remember that initial seeder is loder and i will repeat he is the main seeder of all that content he has posted .
The reason you don’t get an error when the file is completed is becasue its only fair that you give something back to the site from where the content came from as you downloaded something which was originally posted on our website and then put onto TPB.
Remember any member that downloaded our content from TPB didnt even have to follow the ratio rules. They could just stop the torrent at anytime and still continue to download using the TPB tracker.
My response to p2pvines 2 questions
1. Why does the MovieX tracker message suddenly change to working when you become a seed and are not registered at MovieX, surley it should stay as a Failure if it’s mearly advertising.
Its only fair that you seed back of what you have downloaded isn’t it? , we aren’t even forcing the public members to seed, its out of courtesy that any member that downloads a torrent should at least seed back something. Since we released our content to the public and since the original post came from our uploader on our site its only fair that you seedback on that passkey.
2. If the external torrents are mearly advertising why can i seed into the tracker using only the MovieX url.
As stated in my first post, its only fair that you give back something that you took, our uploader took the time to get the content, post it to the public AND USE his connection to SEED to the members off the public and private members. Please advise one private site which allows members off the public to get a taste of what they have?
Not all of our releases are posted public, if you like what you downloaded in the public area, simply come join us. We have alot more to offer.
The accusations of us stealing and leeching was disappointing to read, but if a uploader who uploads to private members and still has time to upload content to the public and uses his brandwith to seed is considered stealing then please tell me what isnt stealing? I would also like to point out that we have 4 x uploaders who are also uploading content to TPB and private members at the same time.
At one point our tracker was down, we had enabled free leech, at that time all of our members were using the TPB tracker to seed. let me point out, no other private site would allow this to happen as they like to keep everything secret. is this still stealing? Our private members were SEEDING to public members.
I hope that p2pvine puts out another blog that the first initial post of us stealing is removed and we get some damage control. We have been treated like we are some kind of government group as peerguardian has updated their blocklist to include us due to this review.. We are only trying to spread our content to members of the public so we can gain some good private members on the site.
Also our direct download does not INCLUDE selling torrents who ever came up with that concept has no clue on how we work, i urge you guys to stop believing rumors and come get the facts direct from us
I hope this explains all the blanks.
I would like to see what p2pvine has to say about this
Yes.. Loder does a wonderful work for the BitTorrent community.
But the guy who wrote the article does have a point. Most torrent users are stupid kids who don’t even know what a tracker are. They simply download the torrent that has the highest number of seeds, they don’t care if they are uploading for a private tracker or not, they don’t even KNOW they’re uploading to a private tracker. And YES, MoviEx HAS USED THIS IN THEIR OWN FAVOR, and it sucks.
I’ll REPEAT ONCE AGAIN.
loder isn’t a bot! LMFAO, when you upload a torrent, they ask you to enter a security code WHICH NO BOT CAN DO, LMFAO!! I’m one of the sceners who visit this cool funny site. It’s way better than vcdquality tech=heads who don’t know anything, lol!
How to ban moviex tracker in utorrent:
http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php#What_is_ipfilter.dat.3F
> Im not saying Moviex is right, but
> if Moviex did not exist, you would have
> to get 75% of Scene releases from
> private trackers, and that would be sh1t.
Moviex does not exist right now as far as getting anything from it goes.
This is the only concept to grasp from the TorrentFreak article and you have somehow failed. Congratulations.
> I hope that p2pvine puts out another blog
> that the first initial post of us stealing
> is removed and we get some damage control
You hope p2pvine remove what? The story that tells you it is copied from TorrentFreak?
ps. You just confirmed, about 5 times, that you are leeching just like it was alleged you were. So I’m not sure why you thought it was going to be helpful to post that.
pps. Enjoy the filters scumbag.
@JMark
I dont know WTF you are on about.
If MovieX did not exist, Loder would not be loading to MovieX or TPB. Which he obviously is, or the article would not exist.
So you are talking sh1t.
i just remove private and non-connecting trackers from the torrent. it’s my simple solution to ensure my bandwidth is used as i wish. but i don’t begrudge moviex, they do good work.
> I dont know WTF you are on about.
> If MovieX did not exist, Loder would not be loading
> to MovieX or TPB.
Then he wouldn’t be. Who could care less?
There would be no such thing as p2p or scene release groups if the only people able to contribute were those running for-profit warez-membership sites, leeching off everyone else and those getting paid to upload torrents to a particular site, like your chum loder.
Well done admitting you were talkin B0ll0x…Oh no you never. Just more negative crap without much of a point.
I have never paid any warez/p2p site anything, yet they have all been doing it…Bitsoup, TL, Filelist…Demonoid in a way….Blah Blah…
But as long as people say donations, they get away with it.
I cant see any difference myself, ok, apart from the said seeding to others, when they dont input anything.
Well thats like complaining about “VIPs” or whatever the fancy name is for the site, not having to maintain a ratio. They help pay for the site, so I dont give a crap.
If I lost a few MB to people who are paying, who cares, Im still getting it for free.
But keep on talking crap, we are really interested.
> Well done admitting you were talkin B0ll0x…Oh no you
> never. Just more negative crap without much of a point.
Not much of a point? You have just been telling us Moviex and loder were essential to the rest of BT. I just pointed out we could lose them just like we have every other supplier over the past decade and go on just as we have.
That’s not “much” of a point, it is the “whole” point. F**k loder. He can stop uploading to TPB if he doesn’t like it.
> they have all been doing it…Bitsoup, TL, Filelist…
> Demonoid in a way….Blah Blah… But as long as people
> say donations, they get away with it.
> I cant see any difference myself
Do any of those sites ban you unless you pay them a membership fee? Moviex publishes a membership pricelist (for MONTHLY dues) and you are playing dumb as to whether this makes them any different from a website with an advert on it, or that accepts voluntary donations.
I doubt you are even fooling yourself with this.
Basically moviex customers leach from public and don’t give anything to community? They take our bandwith but do not share with everyone, only there own customers? They have one special guy who uploads to public tracker, then gets all his people to leach off the public. Is this correct?
All these torrent sites receiving donations to keep the site alive are a bunch of money hungry noobs. On average they make about $50,000 a month with or without adds. The money from donations is just their extra pocket wallet, not change, lol!
If they can’t afford their own server costs, they DON’T HOST A SITE! That’s like saying hey guys, I’ll create Wal-mart and all you have to do is pay me to keep the store going, LMFAO!!
If these VIP memberships nail you 500gb upload at a cost of $50, I’m pretty sure they can afford their own service. Don’t pay a thing. These money hungry sites need to be taken down.
@JMark
I still disagree with you, I never said P2P needs MovieX, but it would be worse for it, if it did close.
Look at Demonoid, people are still crying about that closing down, maybe you have sources elsewhere, but personally, Torrents in a Scene release form were really hard to get hold of till MovieX/Loder came along, unless you wanted to download from TL or others, and I could never sort my ratio out, so could’nt. As I said before I have never paid anything, so why do I care.
@loderfan
“If they can’t afford their own server costs, they DON’T HOST A SITE! That’s like saying hey guys, I’ll create Wal-mart and all you have to do is pay me to keep the store going, LMFAO!!”
So someone setting up a server should pay for the setup and upkeep with their own money ? And you dont think Walmart make a profit frm selling you things, How dare they, we need food to survive, how the hell do they get away charging us for food.
Its the same with medicine companys, surely if they cared they would not charge us…..Ahh I see, its different then….no its not, everyone is greedy.
it’s ‘empathetic’ not ‘empathizing’, get a dictionary
is there a torrent site that breaks down it’s finances for it’s members? like how much advertising cash is taken, how much donations, cost of site, etc…anyone can show how much cash can be taken from the torrnt scene. i’m interested to see how much money can be made. i wonder how much the mpaa pay for a memberlist? lol
@172 – There is no such thing as charity when it comes to torrents. Impossible. Look at Gamespot or Webmd, do they charge you for trying to keep their site alive? NO.
DONATIONS ARE NOTHING BUT A SCAM TO TARGET THOSE WITH SLOW SPEEDS.
I dont think that MovieX is a good tracker in games part.
there is no many scene releses on it – only some. Its not interesting in *some*. and all of them post many time from pred.
some people are making serious money by exploiting their userbase for ad money…rlslog/nti is a cash cow…a ridiculously slow site due to the ads, yet the userbase is prepared to suffer for free downloads. suckers.
JMark
you obviously STILL do not know what you’re talking about. we DO NOT BAN if you do not donate money to the site. those are NOT monthly dues intended for everyone to have to pay. becoming a VIP member is an OPTION, not a requirement in any way whatsoever. any single person here, right now, can come to our site and sign up – and have access to the ENTIRE torrent system without fear of being banned for not donating. we only require users to maintain a .80 ratio.
the VIP packages are just an upgraded option. you are NOT paying for access to torrents, thats just a plain false statement. as a VIP you are given access to same the content as on the torrent side of the site. but everything is all direct downloads from sites such as rapidshare/megashares etc.
some of us like the idea of being able to get the same exact content as the torrent community. but at max download speeds. with no issue of maintaing ratio, OR anti p2p orgs trying to get us. thats all it is.
i wish some of you morons would at least get your facts straight before talkin crap about us.
why don’t some site staff come here and give a little breakdown on the money-making…just curious…is it extremely profitable, or just very?
Straight copy and paste from moviex site
This is an idea for VIP’s.
Ive heard that when you become VIP you get an unlimited download limit and therefore dont have to worry about getting banned for leeching, but, soon as your no longer VIP your then stung by the ratio mod and are banned until you seed back all that you leeched.
Personally i dont think VIP’s should be paying/contributing for that, really when a VIP pays then i reckon there ratio should immediately get hidden (so then there paying for privacy and not to be called a leech), and also then the ratio should be paused, they download as much as they want soon as they become a normal member the ratio appears and its on exactly what it was before paying.
Then they make a choice – do i carry on paying . for VIP for direct downloads and hidden ratio or just go back to bieng a free member – the way its set up at the moment its almost like the VIP’s are bieng forced back to becoming a VIP otherwise they get banned for crap ratio.
I dont condone leeching but i feel that VIP’s are contributing to the site and so should be paying for privacy and basically to seed/leech how they want.
its true that could become an issue. but most VIPers dont do much torrent downloading once they are VIP members. there really isnt any need to, to be honest. since everything thats posted on the torrent side of the site – we have access to as direct downloads on the VIP side.
personally, once in awhile ill download something there via torrent. just for the sake of seeding back – and increasing my ratio. just tryin to help out our members is all. if people continue downloading with torrents while they are a VIP – its kinda stupid i think. why would you, when you have access to all the same content via direct downloads. id say at least 95pct of our VIP members make sure their ratio is at least 1:1 and the rest, dont really download torrents anymore.
there are probably a handful of members here and there that might have a problem like stated in the post above. but most of us will never be in that position.
moviex owners are getting rich off FREE content
you’re paying for stuff that’s free, lol, suckers
they take free content and put a price on it
Why don’t you make moviex fully private like other private trackers? All I’ve seen are moviex bootlickers trying not to answer the question.
Why don’t you make moviex a fully (PROPER) private tracker like other private trackers? Nobody really wants to answer that and instead the fanbois are avoiding the question by trying to turn it around. Lame.
Grr double post..
man fcuk moviex. banned.
man fcuk moviex. banned. thank you for informing.
Whats the problem with this? You all are missing one major point. The site is free and open for registrations. Instead of complaining about all this crap, why not take those 5 minutes and register and not have the problem at all?
Instead of thinking of this as being a leech method, think of it as a message saying “Register on our site for free to get our content”…
If loder is everything that is good and Moviex is everything that is bad, why does loder ALWAYS put a link to the moviex website on his PB uploads? Loder must approve of Moviex or he would not add the link to each upload.
want to know why you should remove the moviex tracker
cause they sell and report info to the big M.D.
First off all LOADER is an uploader on MovieX,
without him your all out of quicker releases
get real all you haters
rslog pwns u all
Thanks for the heads-up. I knew Loder was just a bot controlled by the fascist govt of swedan, or worse stealing from other torrent-users.
I say, if you can’t beat them join them…. let me explain, A while ago I joined moviex and dl’d a flick i wanted, then low and behold my ratio turned to crap because the seeder/leecher ratio was heavy on the seeders and nil on leechers and i was banned from even attempting to even search their site for some crap that had a high leecher to seeder ratio in order to raise my own ratio to a level that lifted the ban. (pay attention this isn’t just some rant, there is good stuff coming) So after searching feverishly for a way to get my ratio up and continuing to seed the flick i had (that had no leechers to help), i was on the verge of giving up when i came accross the artical about the moviex “leech” trackers that were loaded on with the public tracker from TPB. The light bulb when off… I typed on TPB in the search bar “moviex” and the top ten results were media that contained the leech tracker that moviex had attached along with the public TPB tracker. Using utorrent i highlighted the original file i dl’d from moviex that had crapped out my ratio and reviewed “properties” which then showed the tracker moviex had assigned to me for that dl. Low and behold in the middle of the tracker url is a my personal “key” which I then proceded to copy and paste over the leeching moviex tracker url that i had picked up from TBP torrent (again highlighting the dl and choosing “properties” to see both the TPB tracker url and the moviex tracker url). Now of course TPB media that i chose to do this with was loaded with leechers which in turn quickly raised my ratio with moviex and (tip: in utorrent I dialed down the dl rate to 6kbs and left the upld rate unlimited) Now that I had supplied myself with a fresh load of leechers and had attached the moviex tracker with my key, my ratio is now tripled and i no longer fret being banned. ( if i had wanted to speed the process even further I could have deleted the TPB tracker url as well) So why did I go through all that and not just leave moviex in the dust and join some other private site? I find stuff there i can’t find anywhere else…. nuff said
“Im not saying Moviex is right, but if Moviex did not exist, you would have to get 75% of Scene releases from private trackers”
ROFL! I was an Admin there, i saw their Tactics, i knew the strategys … Simple Solution: Leech new Files via FTP or BT, upload them to a bought RS-Premium-Account, force every User of Moviex to pay for the Link and the login, sit back get payed for about 30 min work / day.
MovieX does _nothing_ for teh Community, all they do is leech and re-release stuff. They´re pretty much what one would call “a Relay”. PLUS: They charge a lot of money for a few Downloads which also can be obtained elswehere for free (a few hours later maybe).
so you really want to say that you get rare stuff on moviex? rotflol. Obviously, you dont know how to search things … i tried it several weeks … i found _nothing_ which could´nt be obtained elsewhere, my friend
I can’t believe people actually bought this article, clearly the public torrent-sharing community is being raped. It goes against the principal of file “SHARING”.
Who cares if some guy is uploading a bunch of torrents with this tracker, it doesn’t make it right!
Talk about being duped, must be american! Most homogenized people on the planet
The ratio is system is quite fair. But for moviex, you have to donwload some crap in order to have a “1.0″ ratio.
Stupid isn’t it?
what is this “the scene” everybody is talking about?
You didn’t look at moviex very closely. They are a ratio enforced tracker, and their ratio handling is designed to lock out any user that hasn’t paid money. It’s a total scam.
It is good for paying members of moviex, but for every person that benefits, thousands are screwed over… seeding to people that do not give back and help them complete their torrent. As a result, your download speed goes down, because you’re peering with people that are leeches.
moviex = tracker for assholse
why are you muppets all whinging, just dl from here/tpb. once downloaded & you have joined moviex just dl torrent again from there with your own personal key & upload whatever you like. easy to get ratio of 100/1+ as you’re not using your key to download anything from there in the first place only to seed
Finally an honest post on Moviex. If it weren’t for all the ‘leechy jerks’ there would be no need for a place like Moviex in the first place. I can’t tell you all the times I seed to multiple ‘leechy jerks’ who never return the favor after their torrent completes so I can stop seeding with out cutting everyone off. Over and over people just cut and run after completing their torrent. Moviex has a refreshing policy of requiring a 1.1 to1 ratio and they will automatically ban you for anything less than 70%. I wish it was 110% to make up for the 10% who actually pay to keep the site going (MovieX has no adds and annoying Pop-ups) and therefore don’t have a mandatory ratio. I joined Moviex today After being impressed buy the rules. Realized Moviex was blocked and researched the issue. Moviex posted some very compelling rebuttals Like all the Torrents with the Double trackers do allow non-members to leech (The tracker belonging to MovieX allow non-members to leech but only up to a certain point at witch time they can still seed to moviex. After all they did leech from Moviex. Only fair! And they can continue to leech off the other tracker. If the other tracker is now dead due to all the ‘leechy jerks’ on public trackers Moviex should not be to blame. But it is exactly why more decent P2P’ers will join communities like Moviex and all the ‘leechy jerks’ are complaining. If all P2P’ers were considerate there would be no complaints, Probably no MovieX and plenty of live torrents for everyone.
As long as there are public torrent sites there will be “leechy jerks” and plenty of annoying ads, not to mention the threat of media watchdogs sniffing around for IP’s to report and threaten ISP’s with copyright violations (Peerguardian is only as good as it’s latest update). The dilemma has always been the fairness of sharing practices. Go onto almost any private tracker site (after registration) and if you’re a noob you’re amazed at how well seeded the torrents are. It soon becomes apparent that if you can’t seed to the ratio limits set out by the site you end up getting banned even if you have all the intentions and ability to share back what you chosen to DL. Some private sites will offer not to ban if you at least show an attempt to seed for a predetermined amount of time (tracking your seeding time) but for the most part you just get screwed if you make the poor (noob style) choice of choosing a large yet obscure file to DL, and later realise that no matter how long you seed, there will never seem to be enough leechers to help you get your ratios up to snuff! Yes, I’ll admit that most of the private sites offer plenty of advice in their forums on how to keep good ratios. You really have to have the patience of Job to pour through and digest the info, then apply the advice and keep your fingers crossed in hopes to keep those precious ratios up. Most noobs are so damn excited to actually get decent speed and plenty of seeds they don’t take the time to read the rules, etc, and get screwed before they know what the hell happened. The alternative always seems to be the quick fix buying “upload credit”. Funny how all the good will of “sharing” somehow always turns back to “cash is king” which is exactly what most P2P’s users are trying to avoid in the first place. So, choose your source for media and quit all the belly aching. If you have the time and inclination, READ what the private sites offer for advice, choose your DL’s on the basis of ratio building for the first little while, then when you believe you’ve reach a rather healthy ratio, then go and get what you were really after(this applies to almost every private site I’ve ever checked out). Don’t have patience? pay up. (still cheaper by a long shot than other legit sources). Or go to the public sites and run the gauntlet of ads, all leechers no seeders, crappy quality, false or incomplete files, and of course all the other internet nasties that can be packaged up. Truth be told, if you have enough time and patience in your search, you’ll find just about anything you want whether it be through private or public torrent sites, never mind the all the other sources with the right connections can get you. Last word?….. God Bless the “Scene”, the Internet, and torrents of course!
So whats up with moviex, cant even get to the site, you click on your language and all it does is show the code of the next page, nothing else.
total waste of time, just delete and get on with iy.
after reading the articles about moviex i signed up and its not aping the community u morons. just keep ratio at .70 and u dont get banned. that means people actually seed not like public sites where my speed goes slow because people dont seed. dont see how making people seed is raping the community.
Been with them nearly four months. Ratio of 1.3 with a download of 150Gb and am also VIP. Benefits of both. No pressure to pay, Yep torrents d/l quickly, but even quicker with the direct d/l links.
People who say it is impossible to get a high ratio – cannot understand where you are coming from. I download and leave seeding.
Yes on the site you get your snatch and runners but as they do not seed they do not last long. What is wrong with that.
Just my tuppence worth.
Here’s the bit that people fail to understand, and precisely why MovieX’s policy is evil:
Most private trackers that do rejection will do it on both ends – they will not allow you to participate in their private swarm, full stop. Join up, or you don’t get it. A bit like coming to a toll bridge – if you don’t pay, you don’t get across.
What MovieX does is say “If you want to take part you’ll have to join, but even if you don’t we’ll take your bandwidth anyway”. There are ways of moralizing the whole download thing, but whichever way you look at it, this is stealing.
Some of you people are a bunch of f**king cry babies.
ask your self this……
Q:who controls your bandwith?
A:you or your isp not some site
Q:what was it like before torrent files?(yeah the old days)
A:wrong files and infected
Q:what tracker is better open source or private?
A:private
Q:why do you complain about things that only cost your bandwith that are for free?
A:only you would know
if you dont like what is Offered go out and pay for it.
and you want to know why demonoid is down….please…
it is because of cry babies….enough said
whats wrong with all of u if your not happy go somewhere else
simple, why all the whinging, go moviex you r doing a great
job the rest of u use your hands for somthing more usfull
The article just summed up the whole unjust behavior of moviex network.
In my personal experience torrents with moviex tracker get bigger ratio than the normal ones. All the moviex fan-boys doesn’t have a clue of the principle of p2p, thats for sure!
We’he fought spam, we’ve fought viruses, this is just another one we have to eventually kill out. The best solution is to block moviex.info with your firewall.
I just think people should delete Moviex tracker from torrent and use TPB tracker. I have been doing it since moviex issue heated up.
I would rather upload to people who are not making profit of my uploads!
Its better you upload to TPB peers.
Torrent community is supposed to be Free, some times you leech some times others leech from you. Dont allow others to leech from you and dont give any thing to the free community!
Moviex is making no difference in torrents available, I used to get every thing when there was no Moviex! Why care about Moviex, just Delete their tracker, and add the IP to peergurdian.
Most of the torrent sites are supporting Moviex, why not, they are looking at the huge profits, when every one will have to pay for any damn torrent!
Really great article with very interesting information. You might want to follow up to this topic!?! 2011