Movie sources
CAM
A cam is a theater rip usually done with a digital video camera. A mini tripod is sometimes used, but a lot of the time this wont be possible, so the camera make shake. Also seating placement isn’t always idle, and it might be filmed from an angle. If cropped properly, this is hard to tell unless there’s text on the screen, but a lot of times these are left with triangular borders on the top and bottom of the screen. Sound is taken from the onboard microphone of the camera, and especially in comedies, laughter can often be heard during the film. Due to these factors picture and sound quality are usually quite poor, but sometimes we’re lucky, and the theater will be fairly empty and a fairly clear signal will be heard.
TELESYNC (TS)
A telesync is the same spec as a CAM except it uses an external audio source (most likely an audio jack in the chair for hard of hearing people). A direct audio source does not ensure a good quality audio source, as a lot of background noise can interfere. A lot of the times a telesync is filmed in an empty cinema or from the projection booth with a professional camera, giving a better picture quality. Quality ranges drastically, check the sample before downloading the full release. A high percentage of Telesyncs are CAMs that have been mislabeled.
TELECINE (TC)
A telecine machine copies the film digitally from the reels. Sound and picture should be very good, but due to the equipment involved and cost telecines are fairly uncommon. Generally the film will be in correct aspect ratio, although 4:3 telecines have existed. A great example is the JURASSIC PARK 3 TC done last year. TC should not be confused with TimeCode , which is a visible counter on screen throughout the film.
SCREENER (SCR)
A pre VHS tape, sent to rental stores, and various other places for promotional use. A screener is supplied on a VHS tape, and is usually in a 4:3 (full screen) a/r, although letterboxed screeners are sometimes found. The main draw back is a “ticker” (a message that scrolls past at the bottom of the screen, with the copyright and anti-copy telephone number). Also, if the tape contains any serial numbers, or any other markings that could lead to the source of the tape, these will have to be blocked, usually with a black mark over the section. This is sometimes only for a few seconds, but unfortunately on some copies this will last for the entire film, and some can be quite big. Depending on the equipment used, screener quality can range from excellent if done from a MASTER copy, to very poor if done on an old VHS recorder thru poor capture equipment on a copied tape. Most screeners are transferred to VCD, but a few attempts at SVCD have occurred, some looking better than others.
DVD-SCREENER (DVDscr)
Same premise as a screener, but transferred off a DVD. Usually letterbox , but without the extras that a DVD retail would contain. The ticker is not usually in the black bars, and will disrupt the viewing. If the ripper has any skill, a DVDscr should be very good. Usually transferred to SVCD or DivX/XviD.
R5
This is fairly new movie format. Basically the same as DVD Screener - this kind of release is legal DVD released in Russia to decrease the level of pirated movies in this country. Retail is rushed out by the studio, so there is little to no cleanup of the film after the telecine process. As a result, you can see some scratches, hairs or other mess on the picture, but you will hardly notice it while watching. External English audio is often used, as these are supplied with Russian sound by default.
DVDRip
A copy of the final released DVD. If possible this is released PRE retail (for example, Star Wars episode 2) again, should be excellent quality. DVDrips are released in SVCD and DivX/XviD.
VHSRip
Transferred off a retail VHS, mainly skating/sports videos and XXX releases.
TVRip
TV episode that is either from Network (capped using digital cable/satellite boxes are preferable) or PRE-AIR from satellite feeds sending the program around to networks a few days earlier (do not contain “dogs” but sometimes have flickers etc) Some programs such as WWF Raw Is War contain extra parts, and the “dark matches” and camera/commentary tests are included on the rips. PDTV is capped from a digital TV PCI card, generally giving the best results, and groups tend to release in SVCD for these. VCD/SVCD/DivX/XviD rips are all supported by the TV scene.
WORKPRINT (WP)
A workprint is a copy of the film that has not been finished. It can be missing scenes, music, and quality can range from excellent to very poor. Some WPs are very different from the final print (Men In Black is missing all the aliens, and has actors in their places) and others can contain extra scenes (Jay and Silent Bob) . WPs can be nice additions to the collection once a good quality final has been obtained.
DivX Re-Enc
A DivX re-enc is a film that has been taken from its original VCD source, and re-encoded into a small DivX file. Most commonly found on file sharers, these are usually labeled something like Film.Name.Group(1of2) etc. Common groups are SMR and TND. These aren’t really worth downloading, unless you’re that unsure about a film u only want a 200mb copy of it. Generally avoid.
Watermarks
A lot of films come from Asian Silvers/PDVD (see below) and these are tagged by the people responsible. Usually with a letter/initials or a little logo, generally in one of the corners. Most famous are the “Z” “A” and “Globe” watermarks.
Asian Silvers / PDVD
These are films put out by eastern bootleggers, and these are usually bought by some groups to put out as their own. Silvers are very cheap and easily available in a lot of countries, and its easy to put out a release, which is why there are so many in the scene at the moment, mainly from smaller groups who don’t last more than a few releases. PDVDs are the same thing pressed onto a DVD. They have removable subtitles, and the quality is usually better than the silvers. These are ripped like a normal DVD, but usually released as VCD.
source: vcdquality.com
hello
This is a very handy idea, I’ve actually been looking for something like this(not very hard though :D).
Thnx for the info, nicely done.
very use full,,thnx
This page is not quite right about one thing, DivX.
I just want to quote the TDXRules 2005:
│ Codec: │
│ - MUST BE XviD (all DivX codecs are banned). │
So, DivX releases are not scene, thus no quality thus, sh**.
Just wanted everybody to know, before dl. a DivX rls
P said - So, DivX releases are not scene, thus no quality thus, sh**.
Err… yeah. Just cos something is releases through the “scene” doesn’t mean it’s sh**. if it’s not scene, all it means is, it’s not scene…
where can I find Monster House with swedish audio ????
email me at: rosehyman@hotmail.com
Thank you so much for the info, I’ve been wondering a lot about TC, TS, DVDScreener… Once again, thanks!!
where’s the R5 ?
Notes
Note on R5/TCs
Over the past 6 months the major movie studios have been releasing
retail dvds early in Russia. They do this to stop the widespread
use of pirated telecines (which were once very common). Lately
however there has been very few real telecines, most of the scene
telecines you see are actually R5 retails.
R5 retail is rushed out by the studio, they are basically competing
with pirates, so there is little to no cleanup of the film after the
telecine process. So the main difference between telecines put out
by the pirates is that the r5s are done using pro equipment,
professional studios and professional people. The quality of R5
retail is very similar to dvdscrs, no time is usually spent cleaning
up dvdscrs either.
The range of quality we now have is like this.
R1/2 retail DVDSCR R5 Retail Telecine Telesync Cam.
Vhs scr and wps, come around the ts mark (obviously differs
between rls).
We will be tagging future releases as follows:
Tag: R5 Example: Moviename.R5.format-group
Description: Any R5 retail with english audio will be tagged as this.
In the past R5 with english audio has been wrong tagged as, TC (ex:
The.Departed.PROPER.READ.NFO.TC.XviD-ZN), DVDSCR (ex:
Trust.The.Man.LiMiTED.DVDSCR.DVDR-BOOM) and DVDRip (ex:
The.Matador.2005.DVDRiP.XviD-HLS).
We want to cut this bullshit, and just tag as R5, not as dvdrip,
just a new category: R5.
Tag: R5.LINE Example: Moviename.R5.LINE.format-group
Any R5 retail, which hasnt got english audio will be synced
to DIRECT LINE english audio and tagged as R5.LINE. In the past these
have been tagged as TC (ex: Crank.TC.XviD-ZN) and DVDSCR(ex:
Ice.Age.2.The.Meltdown.DVDSCR.XViD-DaNK).
Tag: TC Example Moviename.TC.format-group
Any illegally produced non studio telecine, should be tagged TC.
Basically we are sick of whats happening, somebody has to make a
stand, just look at the whole pirates of the caribbean mess!
Way to go
I found all this interesting and a shout of thnx to ya…
I have been trying to explain to people who i know who dl the movies the difference between ts tc r5 etc as they think everything is a DVD even though it obviously isnt but this is down to idiots retitling them.
So now i am going to point them to this page and let them read for themselves….not that they will apologize for telling me i’m full of sh*t! but hey we all started off knowing nothing so it helps being poked and prodded in the direction of a good source to verify the info you give them!
maybe this will do the trick
thanks again guys….
Tetro
i face A PROBLEM CONCERN ABOUT VOICE IN R5 MOVIE IT IS VERY CONFUSING SOME TIMES I HEAR LIKE I WATCH IT RECORDED FROM RADIO I GUESS IT NEED SPECIAL CODEC SO ANY ONE KNOW PLZ HELP ME AND SAY ONLY THE NAME OF THE PERFECT CODEC TO DEAL WITH IT WHEN I USE THIS TYPE OF MOVIES AND THX TO ALL OF U
Hey guys I love the site, especially the last few weeks with numerous post a day, excellent!
I was wondering if you guys could elaborate on the other types of jargon used on the site e.g. nucked or repacked. Most of them are becoming clearer just reading the forum, but it could be of great help. Just a suggestion though
dr.swat!! Chances are the reason you are havin trouble with the sound is down to the way it is resynced.. what is the name of the release(full folder name?) and ill get a answer to you quickly///
I thank you for the time of typing all this info about the diff types of releases
whats wrong with rlslog??? befor it was such a nice site and now only junk movies!!! Why???
Why is ‘it’ reffered to as, the ’scene?’ And ’scene’ can be used as a verb as well? Can someone define it, and tell how it’s used?
Anyone who can explain what StarDVD is?
likethis:
PDVD.CUSTOM.SWESUB.DVDr-StarDVDr
I think that’s the name of the releasegroup
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Back in 2003 a friend of mines father owned a movie theater in my county and me and his son spent much time there since we could go for free and see it by ourselves after closing. It was real great. One day we decided to try and film one of the films (Lost in Translation) We set up the tripod,hooked up the audio to a headphone port, and laid down sandbags to keep it steady. We used his older brothers Sony HD Camera (a big ass camera by the way.) Basically after we transfered the video through the deck, fixed it up with AVID, and after what felt like weeks; transfered it to DVD. I couldn’t believe how amazingly clear it looked; it was incredible. It almost couldve passed as a SCR. Now this obviously took allot of time and work, and we haven’t done it again since. My question is, now that there are more HD cameras on the market and there getting really small; why isnt anyone using them? Even without a tripod; at least youll get a little more detail. Just wondering; thanks for reading. Latas!
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what’s the time frame on R5 releases? I mean if a movie opens on Jan 1, when does the R5 become available. I’m STILL waiting on a Rush Hour 3 R5.
nice info
Hi There, can someone please help me get started? What software do I need to download the movies. Many thanks in advance. Barazinio
very nice info!
thx……..
You could add the HD category here now if it’s appropriate. A lot of people are wondering how it works and what bitrate differences there are between HD and SD.
Hi guys, Can anyone tell me what OAR source means on the HD x264 releases?
this question kinds of validate the precedent one
http://www.cheezmo.com/blog/C2054552301/E655265723/index.html
OAR (original aspect ratio)
Google is your friend
Is it that simple !
I googled it (cause Google IS my friend
)otherwise I wouldn’t have asked, but I was looking for a source, not a ratio description.
This must be mainly for hdtv sources were movies are rescaled to 1.77 instead of the OAR.
You can maby add HD to the collection?
I have been looking for this information for a long time, and would like to thank you so much for including it. Keep up the great work.
U posted R5, is R3 the same? Where does it originate from and r there any other R’s? NUKE? I see nuked for AR and IVTC from time to time. How does some one come to that nuke?
Thanks, great site!
Anyone knows what does “DSR” mean? I’ve seen it in TV show releases’ name.
@-Noctis DSR
means dish rip.
Digital tv from a satellite dish.
@-robnbanks
R3 means its a dvd from region 3(Southeast Asia, Hong Kong, Macau, South Korea, Taiwan)
see this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_region_code#Region_codes_and_countries
Thanks for the info, matey9.
What about the tags such as limited, STV, proper, etc. What exactly do they mean?
@ 36 # I Forgooot
March 27th, 2008 | 15:26
“What about the tags such as limited, STV, proper, etc. What exactly do they mean?”
Well a LiMiTED release is one where the film was released in a small (limited) number of cinemas. They are usually art house type films.
An STV is a Straight to Video release. It means that the film was not realised in the cinema but directly to dvd/video.
A PROPER release occurs when there is something wrong with one group’s release (audio out-of-sync, bad crop, etc) and another group has a fixed/better version of it. A proper only applies to a release of the same source type (CAM, TS, etc) and the reason for the proper should be included in the NFO.
Also, a “REPACK” is where a group releases a PROPER of their own (bad) work.
B.T.W. These should be in a page called /movie-tags/ or something.
@Dr. swat the releases you hear that sound like radio sound is actually releases that probably used audio from a cam release rather than line or dvd audio so the sound sounds drowned out or distant.
Veeeeery Helpful thx
Is any one knows what is the format:
WS
?!
plz hlp, i need know before i download this movie..