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Monkeys more clever than humans, damn!

One would think that the descendent of evolution should be more clever than his predecessor. Wrong! Researchers have shown that young chimps outperform adult humans in a memory test, a Concentration-like game using numerals on a computer screen. “We were very surprised to find this,” Tetsuro Matsuzawa of the Primate Research Institute at Kyoto University said. “But it’s a very concrete, simple fact. Young chimps are superior to human adults in a memory task.” Dr. Matsuzawa and a colleague, Sana Inoue, first trained chimps to recognize the numerals 1 through 9 in sequence. Ai, the first chimp trained, an adult female was found with a memory capability equal to that of adult humans.

When the researchers went to see if there was a difference with chimps younger than 6, the animals had a touch screen where scattered numerals appeared for up to two-thirds of a second and were then masked by white squares. With the shortest exposure time, about a fifth of a second, the chimps had an 80 percent accuracy rate, compared with adult humans’ 40 percent. The findings are described in Current Biology. Dr. Matsuzawa speculated that perhaps somewhere back in common evolution, humans and chimps had this ability. But humans lost it because they gained something else, communicating through a complex language. As Ai demonstrates, adult chimps lose the ability, too. Dr. Matsuzawa suggested that as the chimps age, their memory capability is otherwise occupied.

Source: NY Times 

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  1. HoratioDUKEz
    December 4th, 2007 | 11:00

    lol that’s cause they used Japanese humans…silly Japanese, tricks are for kids.

  2. EoN
    December 4th, 2007 | 11:05

    Read this story yesterday on BBC and it made me think…
    Now for the rest of the human race to do the same and we can beat those chimps :P
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7124156.stm

  3. DmenX3
    December 4th, 2007 | 11:05

    @2 yes

    human race = owned

  4. DmenX3
    December 4th, 2007 | 11:07

    i am angry at the title….it is terribly false

  5. nutt3r
    December 4th, 2007 | 11:18

    epic fail

  6. whoelse
    December 4th, 2007 | 11:21

    Monkeys more clever than humans? That’s obvious, just read some of the comments on here.

  7. [NZ]SoniKalien
    December 4th, 2007 | 11:21

    Saw this on the news tonight – the problem is they used a random human and a monkey who was highly trained for this. I bet that same monkey couldn’t ride a bike or anything after all that.

    It all means nothing to me – just hyped up media heiffer guano again.

  8. Trianon
    December 4th, 2007 | 11:23

    most comments are typed here by chimps, too.

    of course not the stupid ones, like #2.

  9. atlas
    December 4th, 2007 | 11:33

    correction: The monkeys did it FASTER, but with the same accuracy. Plus they had specialized training for months. A pigeon could have done the same… maybe even better/faster than the chimp!

  10. Dead Dodo
    December 4th, 2007 | 11:46

    Apes ain’t monkeys. And chimps are apes, u know…

  11. Slyck
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:02

    Yea, “monkeys” will always be more clever as long as idiots can’t even make the simple distinction between apes and monkeys.

  12. oe
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:05

    oe, oe!

  13. rlslog_sucks_ghey_balls
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:08

    even a dead chimp has more intelligence and better English than any staff at rlslog

  14. NuZZ
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:10

    Why are they not testing 6 year old humans with 6 year old chimps if they know that even adult chimps have a similar degradation in memory??

    It is stupid :p.

  15. NuZZ
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:11

    @14
    FU*K OFF!
    You kids are incredibly annoying!

  16. c1re
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:15

    They used students of the university vs the trained ape. And the students knowed the game and wasn’t some random human ^^
    I saw the news on tv and i was suprised how fast these ape was oO.

  17. eitanois
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:19

    @17 -

    But the students were japanese…

  18. X
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:25

    Totally BS experiment.

    First off, cleverness isn’t measured in memory skills.
    Second, the “research” has most likely been ordered by some big “players” to “prove” the theory of evolution.
    Third, rather useless “discovery”… chimps have memory. Doh.
    Fourth, young chimps vs adult humans. That’s as “smartly” done as a test between a Bugatti Veyron and a Ford Focus.

    Conclusions:
    1. Japanese researchers are stupid.
    2. Japanese researchers play stupid when doing “sponsored” research.
    3. Japanese researchers are more stupid than chimps.
    3. “Sponsored” research is always laughable.
    4. Only idiots fall for “sponsored” research results and conclusions.

  19. rlslog_sucks_ghey_balls
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:26

    #16

    take your uncle’s d!ck out of your mouth before you start talking

  20. slapdash
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:29

    @19
    totally agreed…this is bs experiment..

  21. X
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:33

    I wonder what smart a$$ conclusions they would’ve reached if the test was like this: 6 years old humans vs. adult monkeys.
    Oh, that wouldn’t have served their purposes…

  22. seriously dude
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:40

    Lol, these jap people always crank me up, hehe.

  23. dave
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:43

    This news is a bit old. It is known allready a few years ago. still is funny to see monkeys being VERY fast in pointing numbers in the correct order with its fingers on a touch screen. In a split second they see it.we humans need much more time to do that.

  24. X
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:45

    Man, my “fears” really are true.

    “Chimpanzees have an extraordinary photographic memory that is far superior to ours, research suggests.

    We are still underestimating the intellectual capability of chimpanzees, our evolutionary neighbours.”
    Dr Tetsuro Matsuzawa

    “They are our closest living relatives and thus are in a unique position to inform us about our evolutionary heritage,” said Dr Parr.

    It’s all hidden in plain sight.

    I’ll say it once again: BS RESEARCH

  25. X
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:50

    @24: “In a split second they see it.we humans need much more time to do that.” – have you thought about this: they’re animals. Animals with slow reflexes are dead animals.

    Have you ever seen squirrel fights? :) They’re fast! Faster than any monkey could ever hope to be.

  26. ZeN
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:50

    Meh….. I is smarter than monkeys, my kindy teacher told me so… to be honest though I think its just that we have more on our minds.. while we perform the test theres probably a million things going through our minds other than what numbers appear, whereas apes are most likely just thinking “banana, banana, banana… oh numbers… banana”

  27. Bendeee
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:51

    Bees could have higher memory than some adults.
    They memorize where they can find flowers to collect food.
    They also can coomunicate very well, they can describe where they can find food to each other, by “dancing”.
    Elephanants, Birds, and other animals migrating probaby have also hogh memory.

    Humans are superior in the average of all skills, maybe. most of them.

  28. cempaka
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:56

    ‘Monkeys more clever than humans, damn!’
    The title itself is wrong dude !
    Those chimps are better in selective memory tasks.
    Doesn’t mean they are ‘more clever’ or ‘more intelligent’.
    Babies are better than adults in certain ‘recognition tasks’.
    Doesn’t mean they are more intelligent than adults.
    Kids brain is geared more towards ‘recognizing’ and ‘remembering’
    As we grow our brain is geared more towards ‘understanding’ and ‘creativity’.
    Or something like that !.

  29. X
    December 4th, 2007 | 12:56

    Edit for #26: replace “monkey” with “ape”.

  30. Bloopie
    December 4th, 2007 | 13:01

    Monkeys 1
    Humans 0

  31. cempaka
    December 4th, 2007 | 13:08

    Didnt remember to include example…LOL
    Kids tend to ‘remember’ or ‘by heart’ the multiplication tables.
    Adults rarely ‘remember’ or ‘by heart’ them rather ‘understand’ how to calculate/multiply.

  32. danifer
    December 4th, 2007 | 13:19

    I’m a monkey on internet!

  33. cempaka
    December 4th, 2007 | 13:20

    Give a chimp a knife and teach it to cut an apple.
    Dont think it can immediately relate that the knife can be use to cut other things too.

  34. dash21
    December 4th, 2007 | 13:28

    Planet of the apes, anyone ?
    Hehehe

  35. X
    December 4th, 2007 | 13:43

    I really wonder what’s this sort of news doing on RLSlog.

    It’s not tech related, it is total BS, has a wrong title (the purposes for that can be understood) and doesn’t really have any connection to games whatsoever.

    Anyone know the difference between the expert and the generalist?…
    The expert knows more and more about less and less. The generalist knows less and less about more and more.
    The expert tends towards knowing everything about a few things.
    The generalist tends towards knowing nothing about everything.

    RLSlog, please don’t become a generalist website. That would hitting yourself over the head wit a big a$$ brick. You’re already doing it, but don’t do hit yourself harder.

  36. X
    December 4th, 2007 | 13:44

    Sorry for the spelling mistakes, I’m in a hurry.

  37. BlueEyedDevil
    December 4th, 2007 | 14:07

    So are these chimps straight outta Compton, Detroit, Birmingham or where? Grin.

  38. Boognish
    December 4th, 2007 | 14:34

    @8
    FAIL

    “Even with six months of training, three students failed to catch up to the three young chimps, Matsuzawa said”

  39. busted
    December 4th, 2007 | 14:40

    Nothing new – just read comments here or at youtube.

  40. IC
    December 4th, 2007 | 14:45

    After reading most online forums, including this one, proves these findings..

    ;)

  41. otli
    December 4th, 2007 | 14:47

    Or maybe it’s because humans didn’t evolute from monkeys xD

  42. otli
    December 4th, 2007 | 14:48

    Oh, and btw, you’d better change the spam protection to something simpler, or soon enough only monkeys will be able to post here!

  43. Fractal
    December 4th, 2007 | 14:59

    @19, agreed.

    For one thing, it’s easier to remember things where you are focussed. A friend of mine has a photographic memory, she doesn’t know why but says apart from that, she’s not that smart.

    The chimps don’t have a whole mess of other sh1t in their heads to distract them while performing the exercise. If they used “idiot savaunts” against the chimps, the savaunts would win hands down.

    So does that mean savaunts are “smarter” than the rest of the human race? This study is complete BS.

    Either that, or the researchers DID NOT use the word “smarter”, it’s just the media being f-wits again and not giving us the real story.

  44. Slayman
    December 4th, 2007 | 15:03

    While i recognise the test to not be up to par with real testing.
    It shows that young chimpanzees’ brain functions as well or even better than a human brain of later age in some very specific test.
    All that shows is that chimpanzees have a certain grade of intelligence.
    You BS whiner: Intelligence is far more than communicating through language or recognising images from memory
    it’s for example the capacity of things that can be performed with training, like speaking or drawing.
    I too disagree with the make-up of the article above, it just says apes are mor clever than humans which is wrong.
    Certain abilities come to apes as easy as they come to us, would be a good compromise.

    And finally to the ones babbling about “proving the Theory of evolution”
    Damn to you believe in Intelligent design? What a moronic excuse for a theory.
    Evolution Theory is proven right every single time a skeleton or a new species is found.
    If you could be able to reliably and scientifically disprove it you would become like the Uber-Scientist since Darwin!

  45. nitromeatbag
    December 4th, 2007 | 15:21

    Hi I am a human.. I enjoy eating worms from the ground, sniffing other people’s asses, itching my nuts at the beach. I like to chew flea’s from my wife’s hairy back, and oh yeah fling poo at the monkey’s.. lets all go ape sh*t

  46. fr34k
    December 4th, 2007 | 15:53

    @ slayman

    Evolution is not proven right, get your facts straight.

    And Darwin was an idiot.

    if u wanna know what I mean. Then watch this

    part 1

    http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8506668136396723343

    part 2

    http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6568107389365915765

  47. December 4th, 2007 | 15:59

    nice article

  48. Hypper
    December 4th, 2007 | 16:03

    There are many animals with skills better than us.

  49. X
    December 4th, 2007 | 16:29

    @50: don’t try to wake up Mr. slayman, he’s sleeping like a baby – and might get angry if woken up. :P

  50. ptapzu
    December 4th, 2007 | 16:31

    DOH, Martin, we aren’t descended from chimps, we share common ancestor.

  51. Wang Kit
    December 4th, 2007 | 16:53

    Spank that monkey!

  52. Kilix
    December 4th, 2007 | 17:37

    “One would think that the descendent of evolution should be more clever than his predecessor. ”

    That is not how evolution works…

  53. nexus
    December 4th, 2007 | 18:42

    “Monkeys more clever than humans, damn!”…

    except the ones that work at Micro$oft :P

  54. John Brown
    December 4th, 2007 | 18:55

    @14 LOL THAT’S FUNNY DEAD MONKEYS SMARTER THEN RLSLOG STAFF WAS ROFLCAKE!!!!!!!

  55. arnodl
    December 4th, 2007 | 19:01

    they probably compared to adult yanks.

  56. Reality
    December 4th, 2007 | 19:04

    Seems like there’s a lot of posts that think humans are far superior.

    I’d like to see how a team of these chimps would do in a contest between a team of humans, such as “W” Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice. Talk about competition.

    Any comments on the outcome?

  57. Spot
    December 4th, 2007 | 19:08

    The are some very insecure people on this thread. The word clever has nothing to do with the researchers or the study “Working memory of numerals in chimpanzees”. Clever is what the site admin put up. The fact that many can not figure out this simple fact may mean that chimps are more clever than a lot of humans.

  58. andy
    December 4th, 2007 | 19:40

    when you design a test for monkeys to win at, you cant expect fair results. have a monkey take a grade 3 math test, he’d probably eat the damn paper.

    “lol that’s cause they used Japanese humans…silly Japanese, tricks are for kids”

    so funny

  59. 1an
    December 4th, 2007 | 19:43

    o well someday human will be owned, that the straight facts, by AI or other species, in fact most species whoever exist on this planet have been vanished, Mankind is a great succes of Mother Nature, but is will be no guarantee that we will stand as superior forever .. our time will come

    One moore thing at least evolution have proof, tons of skeletton, fossil, millions pieces fact from geology, yay even genetic given evolution the lead

    Intelligent design well is has some kind of magical power that created everthing, ?

  60. LeSlovene
    December 4th, 2007 | 19:47

    What I found surprising is that I heard of that fact something like 10 years ago! People should look things up before they start expensive and useless studies…

  61. WAH
    December 4th, 2007 | 19:57

    Just because there’s evidence for biological evolution does not mean that it must prove the evolution theory. By conflating them, it sounds meaningful but is actually meaningless. Mind you that the evolution biology academic curriculum generally doesn’t require the teachings of the nuances of the philosophy of science, even aspiring PhD’s.

  62. costa200
    December 4th, 2007 | 19:59

    @61 LeSlovene

    It’s always like this… Stupid mainstream media…

  63. LucidHarmony
    December 4th, 2007 | 20:23

    Those humans need to pick up Brain Age, it helps a lot. I can memorize the placement of 25 numbers now almost 100% of the time :D If you watch the videos of the tests you will find that these tests prove absolutely nothing but that the people they used are slow.

    There are no controls for this “experiment” and is therefore holds no scientific merit, it is trivial.

  64. Tim
    December 4th, 2007 | 20:29

    Damn, I know I’ve missed a few cognitive psychology lectures this semester – but I hadn’t heard that memory research is now delegated to the technology department. I better get to class.

  65. Eason
    December 4th, 2007 | 20:38

    I agree about the misleading title (the tests try to establish memory capacity, not intelligence), but it’s an interesting experiment neverless. Of course, it would’ve been more sensible if they have used “trained” human experimentees too, to account for the fact that the chimps are trained.

  66. Bneknm
    December 4th, 2007 | 21:05

    Some points, Chimps are more intelligent than the average inbred American (roughly 3/4 of the US population) and the Chinese. Homo saphiens from the other countries are more intelligent.

  67. December 4th, 2007 | 21:19

    OH NOES MARTIN YOU STARTED ANOTHER CHRISTIANS VS THE WORLD TROLL BAIT ! STOP IT INTELLIGENT DESIGN IS CRAP ! JESUS IS A FAIRY TALE AND SO IS THE BIBLE – LIKE THE TOOTH FAIRY

  68. Wang Qurdaddyov
    December 4th, 2007 | 21:19

    rlslog is run by chimps :D

  69. Spur Minurface
    December 4th, 2007 | 21:21

    @69

    no, chimps would make a better job.

  70. HoratioDUKEz
    December 4th, 2007 | 21:34

    #47, Bruce Lipton is a smart guy and has some good ideas, but by calling Darwin an idiot just because he wasn’t perfectly right…..that makes you and idiot. He was one of the first humans ever to realize that the bible is full of crap, and your gonna just shut him down because he didn’t get it perfect the first time. It was the 1800’s what do you expect, he made a lot of really amazing revelations just by observation. NOOB

  71. Jizzmaster_Jeff
    December 4th, 2007 | 21:41

    “One would think that the descendent of evolution should be more clever than his predecessor.”

    – damn, my chimp writes better English.

  72. ........
    December 4th, 2007 | 21:52

    who ever believes in the evolution theory is dumb
    i cant see no monkeys/apes turning into humans….. and apes still exsist so they didnt turn into humans….
    use some common sense noobs

  73. Tim
    December 4th, 2007 | 21:59

    @73

    Let us know when you pass the 5th grade.

  74. Matt
    December 4th, 2007 | 22:12

    All they did was use their dumbest monkey against Bush, and the monkey won.

  75. King of Cycling
    December 4th, 2007 | 22:13

    #73

    I’m sorry you’ve had creationism shoved down your thoughtless mind. The secret is we are almost the same, if you read evolution you might understand how life on earth has become how it is today and how we are not that different to other animals.

    - pig heart valve can be used in human, therefore human = animal.

  76. Redem
    December 4th, 2007 | 22:13

    Way to blow things out of all proportion, commenters.

    The study merely shows that young chimps are better able to quickly recognise and sort symbols than adult humans are. Are you so stuck on the notion that humans are “superior” on all mental tasks that you cannot accept this?

    Anything more than a simple conclusion is more than likely the work of journalists and political commentators, as well as the paranoid.

  77. simpsons225
    December 4th, 2007 | 22:16

    Stupid adults, give me that monkey and I’ll pwn it any time!

  78. Redem
    December 4th, 2007 | 22:17

    “i cant see no monkeys/apes turning into humans….. and apes still exsist so they didnt turn into humans….
    use some common sense noobs”

    Ahhh, the joy of seeing such ignorance is allowed to survive schools.

    Seeing as you have no idea what the current state of the theory of evolution states, or describes… why should we care what your opinion on it is? You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about.

    Just like my opinions on the intricacies of high speed electronics have no bearing on the reality of the subject.

  79. King of Cycling
    December 4th, 2007 | 22:20

    Obviously humans are not superior in all forms, sometimes their ignorance is the most unintelligent concept in all species. The ability to destroy life and not reverse the process.

  80. God
    December 4th, 2007 | 22:20

    creationists are cool

    just dont let them have any children and cut off their hands and tongue at birth

    let the f*ckers type with their feet

  81. Prophet Mohammed
    December 4th, 2007 | 22:25

    Word Up God

  82. X
    December 4th, 2007 | 23:16

    LOL @ the exclusive evolutionist people.

    Three questions:
    1. Who or what discovered all the “proof” supporting evolution? I’m interested in their beliefs.
    2. Did you discover anything – any idea that doesn’t use the proofs from #1 as ground – by yourself?
    3. Have you ever head about Milgram’s experiment? Or about experiments involving the power of the situation and the power of a group?

    @60: “Intelligent design well is has some kind of magical power that created everthing, ?” Does evolution have some kind of magical power that created everything?…

    PS: While reading the evolutionist arguments in these comments it’s easy to see their level. It’s also possible to see that they tend to slightly contradict one another – this is harder to notice.

  83. XY
    December 4th, 2007 | 23:24

    #71
    “He was one of the first humans ever to realize that the bible is full of crap, and your gonna just shut him down because he didn’t get it perfect the first time. It was the 1800’s what do you expect, he made a lot of really amazing revelations just by observation.”

    You do realize that the kids of your kids of your kids of your kids of your kids will say the same about our time and your theory, don’t you?

    I don’t get what’s so amazing in being utterly wrong and twisting the minds of so many future generations with “amazing” falsities… Maybe I should write something saying that humans are neither evolved or created. We came here from a galaxy far far away and during the ruff landing we hurt our heads and entered a state of complete amnesia, thus forgetting our past.
    Boy, what story that would be! And I can bet that I’ll get tons of support for it. :P

  84. WAH
    December 4th, 2007 | 23:25

    Alright. Let’s see who’s generally better in these tests:

    Smartest apes vs Smartest_Human
    Smartest_apes vs Average Human
    Smartest_apes vs Stupidest Human

    Average apes vs Smartest_Human
    Average apes vs Average_Human
    Average_apes vs Stupidest Human

    Stupidest apes vs Smartest_Human
    Stupidest apes vs Average_Human
    Stupidest apes vs Stupidest_Human

    Apes: -3
    Humans: 6

    That should settle it.

  85. NMD
    December 5th, 2007 | 00:13

    omg, I love all these religious ppl calling this BS or Sponsored.

    Get over your selfs, your religious doctrine(w/e u may follow)is a work of fiction with tales of morality and ethics. Which in its time was necessary and did much good in turning people to a civilized and and just society. But in later years and even today has caused more pain, hate, and prejudice than all other evils combined.

    Just bc some scientists do a study that suggest chips, in a highly specific test, have faster responses in memory, nothing more. This doesn’t challenge your believes or change the world.

    Also, please don’t show your ignorance by dismissing this bc the scientists or subjects were Japanese. They have a much better education system, economy, and government than we ever will. The Japanese have done more for America than most Americans, just look around your home, I bet you have more Japaneses and Chinese made items than you do American made. Shoot, prolly got at least one Japanese made car in the driveway too.

  86. hikaricore
    December 5th, 2007 | 00:26

    I’ll wait for the aXXo release.

  87. Reality
    December 5th, 2007 | 00:35

    I think this thread proves that human evolution peaked in the first half of the 1900’s. Modern science/medicine has allowed truly ignorant people to live long enough to breed and foster this subspecies of humans called “intelligent design believers” that we have represented in this thread.

  88. CooPs
    December 5th, 2007 | 00:44

    Since when is cleverness equal to the amount of numbers you can remember? Then damn my computer is really cleaver, because it can “remember” 160 billion bytes, while I can only remember maybe 5 or 6 bytes before i forget them.

    What this study instead shows, is that monkeys are worse than humans to filter out information that is irrelevant, and have a “less optimized” brain.

  89. NMD
    December 5th, 2007 | 00:52

    @87 YES!!!!!

  90. WAH
    December 5th, 2007 | 01:10

    LOL @ “evolutionists”
    More than enough have a common habit of equivocating biological “evolution” with the theory of “evolution” due to their lack of logic and critical thinking. That’s why we could see their logical fallacies more often than creationists, like inconsistencies in their arguments.

    “Monkeys more clever than humans”
    Too bad they’re wasting their “cleverness” on swinging trees, eating bananas, and picking their butts all day.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25V9KPuAqxM

  91. hibby
    December 5th, 2007 | 01:11

    I’ll say one thing about chimps, they’re a lot less whiney than you lot – what a bunch of moaners. :(

    Monkeys are sexier too: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=X9zLK70K-_w :D

  92. Mr.Monocle the Chimp
    December 5th, 2007 | 03:18

    @83 “Who or what discovered the “proof” of evolution”…Common sense is the answer to your question, as we share roughly 95% of the same DNA markers with our Chimp cousins.

    Lets turn the looking glass around at creationists, Who or what discovered “proof” of god/creationism? Nobody? Got nothing? That’s what I thought.

    We haven’t changed in hundreds of years because as it stands we have no reason to evolve any further, as a genus only evolves for SURVIVAL. It’s not just a random occurrence as most creationist like to claim, it takes very specific conditions for evolution to occur.
    There are some animals they found in underwater caves, locked off in their own little biodome for hundreds of years. They found lizards with eye sockets but no eyes, just empty holes where the eyes once existed. Reason being: for hundreds of years they had no light, and had to evolve to live without it. They lost the need for eyes as they became a weakness and liability without light for their sight.

    Maybe creationists will start to have kids without eyes too, that way they will be blind to the truth just like their parents. (GG)

  93. help desk chimp
    December 5th, 2007 | 04:06

    #81 quick answers to X:

    1. Charles Darwin <- read his books, the field of Biology, activists in the theory of Evolution Richard Dawkins and many scientists.

    2. When I was in school we had a class on dissection. After removing the rats skin i came to notice the insides were exactly like that of a human on a smaller scale. I now see the pattern of evolution in many things, such as the cochlea of an ear that controls balance in humans, cats etc.. looks like the structure of a shell. I find life has a pattern and that pattern can evolve in time with the environment. In addition if we are a creation, then we are not a perfect one. So many inconsistencies and people who are sick or born irregular. I find it hard to believe and once again the environment proves the mutation of genes such as having kids in a radioactive field.

    3. yes I have. humans have survival instincts as well and are a social animal.

    Intelligent design is simply unintelligent. I can’t believe people are still arguing about this, it is common knowledge how life evolves on Earth and possibly elsewhere.

  94. troof
    December 5th, 2007 | 05:25

    Hey can i be an editor too? I can read Engadget and re-post their stuff just like you!!

  95. King of Cycling
    December 5th, 2007 | 08:52
  96. tucker
    December 5th, 2007 | 09:04

    wheres teh torrent?

  97. ........
    December 5th, 2007 | 10:12

    you guys are so sad…..
    try think beyond your noses

  98. Prophet Mohammed
    December 5th, 2007 | 11:31

    Bow down to me the one and only God!

    I created creationists!

    I created Darwin!

    I created chimps!

    I created rlslog, yeh ok that one was a mistake.

  99. X
    December 5th, 2007 | 12:00

    #93
    ““Who or what discovered the “proof” of evolution”…Common sense is the answer to your question, as we share roughly 95% of the same DNA markers with our Chimp cousins.”

    The idiocy of your answer speaks for itself.
    It’s funny to see evolutionists talk about creationists starting wars when it’s evolutionists who have the most angry tone around here.

    It’s sad, really.

    PS: Damn, it means that my Mercedes has BMW as ancestor, as they share roughly 98% of parts…
    PPS: The question for idiots: “Who were the people who discovered the DNA similarities, bones, etc?” People who support evolution theory of course.

    Note: Brainwashing really seems to work!

  100. Sajonara
    December 5th, 2007 | 13:08

    #100 X

    well common sense points towards finding an answer, which is what the scientists and intellectual thinkers drain effort toward. With lateral thinking we find a timeline and mutation of life as we know it. It’s idiocy to just accept an answer because someone told you, despit it being far from logical or likely.

    yeah well its the other way around really, your Mercedes is the progenitor of the BMW as Merc were the first to make the motorised car.

    Its interesting you point that out! The only reason the people who discovered DNA, work in paleontology and other fields of science support evolution is because the more they work in the field the more they understand how life works. I’m sure you would to if you went to university and study these concepts, its not that hard to understand and life becomes more beautiful when you see beyond the hollow thinking behind creationism.

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