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		<title>By: rahuman</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/microsoft-offers-ie7-to-pirate-users/comment-page-1/#comment-119537</link>
		<dc:creator>rahuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now do that to the rest of the M$ Goodies.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now do that to the rest of the M$ Goodies.</p>
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		<title>By: love</title>
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		<dc:creator>love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 05:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if MSoft cant get it right on R1 what hope is there with american nuke sites !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if MSoft cant get it right on R1 what hope is there with american nuke sites !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Emm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and that&#039;s a good thing!
and excuse the typos... there were a few</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and that&#8217;s a good thing!<br />
and excuse the typos&#8230; there were a few</p>
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		<title>By: Emm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@65&lt;/b&gt;,
- press the middle mouse button to open a link in a new tab in background
- press the middle mouse button on a tab to close it
- right click the navigation toolbar and add the New tab button = one-click-new-tab
- get the extension: Undo Closed Tabs Button, for when you want to quickly reopen a closed tab... also one-click ;)



&lt;b&gt;@68, Rekrul&lt;/b&gt;... you are probably talking about layered flash ads... there&#039;s nothing you can do about them besides completely block the ad servers with a host list or an ad blocking extension. On IE, if no JS is implemented... they won&#039;t work. That&#039;s because of the Microsoft vs Eolas case... google it!




&lt;b&gt;@420&lt;/b&gt;, here we have a problem.

&lt;b&gt;Regarding to what you said to X, I&#039;ll give you a few answers:&lt;/b&gt;

1. KIS Anti-banner is a software pretty much like a firewall... it stands between the the wsocks system and any application using it by blocking ads; enough said, this will also work for FX, Opera and any other browser, so it&#039;s not an IE feature!
2. I don&#039;t need to extra software to keep &lt;i&gt;sh** of my computer&lt;/i&gt;... a simple AV like NOD32 will do fine

&lt;b&gt;Now to what you said to me:&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;b&gt;1.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;&quot;I have Microsoft Office 2007... although that’s just a matter of personal preference.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; ... ah, that&#039;s not true... I&#039;ve read a lot of complaints from ppl that developed a hatred towards the 2007&#039;s ribbons and they said that it&#039;s completely disturbed their way of working. Now these are the ppl that don&#039;t want to learn something new.

&lt;b&gt;2.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;But, as with the whole Windows vs. Linux argument, it’s only because IE is used by the biggest amount of people that some malicious scripts are developed only for it.&lt;/i&gt;... ah... aham... lol, right!

No, it&#039;s not because of that! IE is a browser that had implemented the COM for VB Scripting support. After a few years in pure sadness and after MS saw how great Sun did with it&#039;s Java platform they&#039;ve decoded to make their own platform... the .NET Framework. Do you know the key motivation behind it?... It&#039;s because of the security problems of the Component Object Model that helped malicious devs to target IE based computers. In the past few years a lot of ActiveX based malicious software pretty much trashed any computer where IE was used by users that don&#039;t know much about the risks that those components present and don&#039;t know how to avoid them. That&#039;s why IE implemented the add-on blocking feature in IE6 SP2 and that&#039;s why in XP SP2, the Security center alerts the user to install an AV. If you take a look at Vista, COM is only half present in it and probably in the OS after Vista it will completely disappear.. MS wants to get rid of it but because the VB community is so large... making VB and VB Apps obsolete is not an option for MS since these rely on COM. The .NET Fw, on the other hand solves a lot of the security issues but it also needs a more pretentious programming language than the VB language. VB.NET is apparently to complex for some teachers or weak programmers that depend on VB. Sad for them.

&lt;b&gt;3.&lt;/b&gt; Software that implements ATL... I remember that MediaMan, a movie cataloging software had problems if IE7 got installed... a fix was applied, but it being 40 bucks which is to much for a hobby app, and the cracks were kinda late, IE7 was not a option. That&#039;s just a personal case... but it shows that some apps might have problems with the new IE7.

&lt;b&gt;4.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;Also, Firefox has many more bugs... from frustrated web developers..&lt;/i&gt; Yeah... about them... sorry but this joke kinda answers to your argument:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build better and bigger idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;ve read such &lt;i&gt;&quot;research&quot;&lt;/i&gt; and I&#039;m actually not laughing... although it was supposed to be funny!

&lt;b&gt;5.&lt;/b&gt; Compatibility... IE is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; W3C compliant. Just tell me where you see the menu on thi page?... is it at the top or at the bottom, cause in my IE6SP2 it&#039;s at the bottom but in both Opera in FX it&#039;s at the top. Yeah, it&#039;s compatible... with s***!
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MS pushing IE is because more and more ppl went for the &lt;i&gt;alternatives&lt;/i&gt;... that&#039;s all I got to say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@65</b>,<br />
- press the middle mouse button to open a link in a new tab in background<br />
- press the middle mouse button on a tab to close it<br />
- right click the navigation toolbar and add the New tab button = one-click-new-tab<br />
- get the extension: Undo Closed Tabs Button, for when you want to quickly reopen a closed tab&#8230; also one-click <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><b>@68, Rekrul</b>&#8230; you are probably talking about layered flash ads&#8230; there&#8217;s nothing you can do about them besides completely block the ad servers with a host list or an ad blocking extension. On IE, if no JS is implemented&#8230; they won&#8217;t work. That&#8217;s because of the Microsoft vs Eolas case&#8230; google it!</p>
<p><b>@420</b>, here we have a problem.</p>
<p><b>Regarding to what you said to X, I&#8217;ll give you a few answers:</b></p>
<p>1. KIS Anti-banner is a software pretty much like a firewall&#8230; it stands between the the wsocks system and any application using it by blocking ads; enough said, this will also work for FX, Opera and any other browser, so it&#8217;s not an IE feature!<br />
2. I don&#8217;t need to extra software to keep <i>sh** of my computer</i>&#8230; a simple AV like NOD32 will do fine</p>
<p><b>Now to what you said to me:</b></p>
<p><b>1.</b> <i>&#8220;I have Microsoft Office 2007&#8230; although that’s just a matter of personal preference.&#8221;</i> &#8230; ah, that&#8217;s not true&#8230; I&#8217;ve read a lot of complaints from ppl that developed a hatred towards the 2007&#8217;s ribbons and they said that it&#8217;s completely disturbed their way of working. Now these are the ppl that don&#8217;t want to learn something new.</p>
<p><b>2.</b> <i>But, as with the whole Windows vs. Linux argument, it’s only because IE is used by the biggest amount of people that some malicious scripts are developed only for it.</i>&#8230; ah&#8230; aham&#8230; lol, right!</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not because of that! IE is a browser that had implemented the COM for VB Scripting support. After a few years in pure sadness and after MS saw how great Sun did with it&#8217;s Java platform they&#8217;ve decoded to make their own platform&#8230; the .NET Framework. Do you know the key motivation behind it?&#8230; It&#8217;s because of the security problems of the Component Object Model that helped malicious devs to target IE based computers. In the past few years a lot of ActiveX based malicious software pretty much trashed any computer where IE was used by users that don&#8217;t know much about the risks that those components present and don&#8217;t know how to avoid them. That&#8217;s why IE implemented the add-on blocking feature in IE6 SP2 and that&#8217;s why in XP SP2, the Security center alerts the user to install an AV. If you take a look at Vista, COM is only half present in it and probably in the OS after Vista it will completely disappear.. MS wants to get rid of it but because the VB community is so large&#8230; making VB and VB Apps obsolete is not an option for MS since these rely on COM. The .NET Fw, on the other hand solves a lot of the security issues but it also needs a more pretentious programming language than the VB language. VB.NET is apparently to complex for some teachers or weak programmers that depend on VB. Sad for them.</p>
<p><b>3.</b> Software that implements ATL&#8230; I remember that MediaMan, a movie cataloging software had problems if IE7 got installed&#8230; a fix was applied, but it being 40 bucks which is to much for a hobby app, and the cracks were kinda late, IE7 was not a option. That&#8217;s just a personal case&#8230; but it shows that some apps might have problems with the new IE7.</p>
<p><b>4.</b> <i>Also, Firefox has many more bugs&#8230; from frustrated web developers..</i> Yeah&#8230; about them&#8230; sorry but this joke kinda answers to your argument:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build better and bigger idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve read such <i>&#8220;research&#8221;</i> and I&#8217;m actually not laughing&#8230; although it was supposed to be funny!</p>
<p><b>5.</b> Compatibility&#8230; IE is <b>not</b> W3C compliant. Just tell me where you see the menu on thi page?&#8230; is it at the top or at the bottom, cause in my IE6SP2 it&#8217;s at the bottom but in both Opera in FX it&#8217;s at the top. Yeah, it&#8217;s compatible&#8230; with s***!<br />
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MS pushing IE is because more and more ppl went for the <i>alternatives</i>&#8230; that&#8217;s all I got to say!</p>
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		<title>By: Trell</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/microsoft-offers-ie7-to-pirate-users/comment-page-1/#comment-118349</link>
		<dc:creator>Trell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to argue about whether Opera is better than Firefox or not. What I WILL say though is that IE7 is a crock of donkey s**t. 

Anyone with a pirated copy of XP would already have the means of getting around the WGA system anyway if they were that desperate to get this bloated piece of MSware. Microsoft&#039;s move to offer it to anyone, pirates&#039;n&#039;all, is just a desperate move because they realise their browser is losing out to the likes of FF &amp; Opera.

Oh, and considering I wouldn&#039;t trust Microsoft as far as I could throw them, I wouldn&#039;t recommend the upgrade to anyone who has a pirate Windows XP copy. What&#039;s the betting that MS are monitoring any new IE7 downloads...hmm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to argue about whether Opera is better than Firefox or not. What I WILL say though is that IE7 is a crock of donkey s**t. </p>
<p>Anyone with a pirated copy of XP would already have the means of getting around the WGA system anyway if they were that desperate to get this bloated piece of MSware. Microsoft&#8217;s move to offer it to anyone, pirates&#8217;n'all, is just a desperate move because they realise their browser is losing out to the likes of FF &amp; Opera.</p>
<p>Oh, and considering I wouldn&#8217;t trust Microsoft as far as I could throw them, I wouldn&#8217;t recommend the upgrade to anyone who has a pirate Windows XP copy. What&#8217;s the betting that MS are monitoring any new IE7 downloads&#8230;hmm?</p>
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		<title>By: lnldvnflsn</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/microsoft-offers-ie7-to-pirate-users/comment-page-1/#comment-118337</link>
		<dc:creator>lnldvnflsn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Opera is the best browser out there, only followed by Firefox, beside those two, no other browsers should exist!...

Firefox is great but far slower than Opera, there is also one thing I cannot live without anymore and is the Opera&#039;s view option to make the pages appear in high contrast (black and white colors), black background and white text, is so confortable, does not damage your eyes so much compared to the normal colors, I hate the sites where the white color dominates, it&#039;s a pain for the eyes!...

Well, there is so much to say but I don&#039;t so much time!...

Opera &gt; Firefox &gt; [any other crap]

See ya!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Opera is the best browser out there, only followed by Firefox, beside those two, no other browsers should exist!&#8230;</p>
<p>Firefox is great but far slower than Opera, there is also one thing I cannot live without anymore and is the Opera&#8217;s view option to make the pages appear in high contrast (black and white colors), black background and white text, is so confortable, does not damage your eyes so much compared to the normal colors, I hate the sites where the white color dominates, it&#8217;s a pain for the eyes!&#8230;</p>
<p>Well, there is so much to say but I don&#8217;t so much time!&#8230;</p>
<p>Opera &gt; Firefox &gt; [any other crap]</p>
<p>See ya!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeunas</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/microsoft-offers-ie7-to-pirate-users/comment-page-1/#comment-118207</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeunas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep using your Firefoxes, if they work for you. It just means less and less security holes for us Opera users. ;D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep using your Firefoxes, if they work for you. It just means less and less security holes for us Opera users. ;D</p>
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		<title>By: f ie7</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/microsoft-offers-ie7-to-pirate-users/comment-page-1/#comment-118093</link>
		<dc:creator>f ie7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kebrus thank you didn&#039;t know that was there
makes looking up stuff quicker with a blank tab open thanks again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kebrus thank you didn&#8217;t know that was there<br />
makes looking up stuff quicker with a blank tab open thanks again</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 02:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funny geeks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny geeks</p>
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		<title>By: kebrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>kebrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@65 yes you can, where do you want it? i actually have two buttons like that, one comes with the default browser (no addons) just right-click somewhere in your buttons toolbar and choose customize, then drag and drop the &quot;new tab&quot; button anywhere you want it (i have it before of my bookmarks toolbar)

@61 the alternative here is IE and not FF or Opera, IE doesn&#039;t follow the W3 rules</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@65 yes you can, where do you want it? i actually have two buttons like that, one comes with the default browser (no addons) just right-click somewhere in your buttons toolbar and choose customize, then drag and drop the &#8220;new tab&#8221; button anywhere you want it (i have it before of my bookmarks toolbar)</p>
<p>@61 the alternative here is IE and not FF or Opera, IE doesn&#8217;t follow the W3 rules</p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>f ie7,

A middle-click in FF will open the link in a new tab.

IE vs. FF,

I&#039;ve been using FF for at least a year now, and I like it much better than IE, however there are several things I don&#039;t like. The history and bookmarks take too long to open, and then scrolling is slow. FF sometimes doesn&#039;t work on some sites. While a page is loading, the banner adds tend to flash over other parts of the page, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>f ie7,</p>
<p>A middle-click in FF will open the link in a new tab.</p>
<p>IE vs. FF,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using FF for at least a year now, and I like it much better than IE, however there are several things I don&#8217;t like. The history and bookmarks take too long to open, and then scrolling is slow. FF sometimes doesn&#8217;t work on some sites. While a page is loading, the banner adds tend to flash over other parts of the page, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft is Hitler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft is Hitler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that IE7 is rather bad compared to Firefox and Opera. I know many of you are interested in knowing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that IE7 is rather bad compared to Firefox and Opera. I know many of you are interested in knowing this.</p>
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		<title>By: thug_angel</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/microsoft-offers-ie7-to-pirate-users/comment-page-1/#comment-118023</link>
		<dc:creator>thug_angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow and m$ thinks this will change the fact that ie still sucks ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow and m$ thinks this will change the fact that ie still sucks ..</p>
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		<title>By: f ie7</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/microsoft-offers-ie7-to-pirate-users/comment-page-1/#comment-118016</link>
		<dc:creator>f ie7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Ive switched from ie7 to ff with no script and APB i will never go back havent got a virus an months. though i do like in ie7 opening a new tab with one click insted of ctrl t or in file open new tab. does anybody know how to do one click new tab in ff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Ive switched from ie7 to ff with no script and APB i will never go back havent got a virus an months. though i do like in ie7 opening a new tab with one click insted of ctrl t or in file open new tab. does anybody know how to do one click new tab in ff.</p>
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		<title>By: costa200</title>
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		<dc:creator>costa200</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@61

Hey 420! All that text and you mention 1 advantage (compability which is changing due to the market share changing too) for IE. 

And against it are several advantages for non IE browsers (safety without addons, speed, customization, plugins...). You say it &quot;works&quot; but then you use several other programs to keep it from totally ravage your system.

 &quot;If there’s flaws in IE, they’re patched fairly quickly so they don’t have a chance to do any real damage.&quot;

LOL... Now that was a n00b thing to say...

&quot;Yes, I too can go on and on…but it basically comes down to one thing:&quot;

Errrr... I think you CAN&#039;T go on and on and all you have to say is simply &quot;compatibility&quot;. If you compare IE to FX or Opera right now that is the only thing you can boast about IE.

&quot;Also, Firefox has many more bugs than IE. Just do some research and you’ll read a lot of comments from frustrated web developers that say some things just don’t want to work properly in Firefox.&quot;

LOL... Oh! The savoy &quot;web developers&quot; who are basically mostly out of high school kids with fast courses based on IE page building. Now that&#039;s some experts right there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@61</p>
<p>Hey 420! All that text and you mention 1 advantage (compability which is changing due to the market share changing too) for IE. </p>
<p>And against it are several advantages for non IE browsers (safety without addons, speed, customization, plugins&#8230;). You say it &#8220;works&#8221; but then you use several other programs to keep it from totally ravage your system.</p>
<p> &#8220;If there’s flaws in IE, they’re patched fairly quickly so they don’t have a chance to do any real damage.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL&#8230; Now that was a n00b thing to say&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, I too can go on and on…but it basically comes down to one thing:&#8221;</p>
<p>Errrr&#8230; I think you CAN&#8217;T go on and on and all you have to say is simply &#8220;compatibility&#8221;. If you compare IE to FX or Opera right now that is the only thing you can boast about IE.</p>
<p>&#8220;Also, Firefox has many more bugs than IE. Just do some research and you’ll read a lot of comments from frustrated web developers that say some things just don’t want to work properly in Firefox.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL&#8230; Oh! The savoy &#8220;web developers&#8221; who are basically mostly out of high school kids with fast courses based on IE page building. Now that&#8217;s some experts right there!</p>
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