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	<title>Comments on: Massive p2p raids in Hungary, 100 servers down</title>
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		<title>By: sohail20</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/massive-p2p-raids-in-hungary-100-servers-down/comment-page-2/#comment-591858</link>
		<dc:creator>sohail20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as more istes get shut down but i have links to scene ftp servers aatleast im whitin where the source is!
as top sites get shut down all lower down pubic sites which host new torents will slow down in distrubting thmem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as more istes get shut down but i have links to scene ftp servers aatleast im whitin where the source is!<br />
as top sites get shut down all lower down pubic sites which host new torents will slow down in distrubting thmem.</p>
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		<title>By: rising</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/massive-p2p-raids-in-hungary-100-servers-down/comment-page-2/#comment-149715</link>
		<dc:creator>rising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the real bandwith sucker is youtube,google video and other streaming services in internet. why they blamed p2p..
so sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the real bandwith sucker is youtube,google video and other streaming services in internet. why they blamed p2p..<br />
so sad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the ISP&#039;s and internet companies should back p2p, the only reason ppl use large bandwidth is for the soul purpose of p2p. once you remove p2p sources, there will be a huge dramitic drop of large bandwidth users, as there wont be the need for it.
they will lose their customers by the ton!
they better take the p2p side before its too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ISP&#8217;s and internet companies should back p2p, the only reason ppl use large bandwidth is for the soul purpose of p2p. once you remove p2p sources, there will be a huge dramitic drop of large bandwidth users, as there wont be the need for it.<br />
they will lose their customers by the ton!<br />
they better take the p2p side before its too late.</p>
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		<title>By: bsx</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/massive-p2p-raids-in-hungary-100-servers-down/comment-page-2/#comment-149459</link>
		<dc:creator>bsx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pictures about the busted servers: http://asva.info/#pol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pictures about the busted servers: <a href="http://asva.info/#pol" rel="nofollow">http://asva.info/#pol</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cooper</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/massive-p2p-raids-in-hungary-100-servers-down/comment-page-2/#comment-148851</link>
		<dc:creator>Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithu was the biggest closed-source hungarian tracker. Majomparade,nCore,Preto,and all the others&#039; users were totally scared of their IPS (one of my friends has an acc on all of them). Oh,yeah,one of my friends is an admin an a rising tracker,and another one is creating one ATM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithu was the biggest closed-source hungarian tracker. Majomparade,nCore,Preto,and all the others&#8217; users were totally scared of their IPS (one of my friends has an acc on all of them). Oh,yeah,one of my friends is an admin an a rising tracker,and another one is creating one ATM</p>
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		<title>By: Orwen</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/massive-p2p-raids-in-hungary-100-servers-down/comment-page-2/#comment-148716</link>
		<dc:creator>Orwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And… the lawmakers in Hungary somehow figured out that most of the blank CDs/DVDs sold are used to store copyrighted material… so they embedded a “copyright-tax” in the price of blank discs, so when you buy a blank CD/DVD in Hungary you pay not only for the disc, but for the music/movie distributors too.&quot;

Yeah, that&#039;s true. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And… the lawmakers in Hungary somehow figured out that most of the blank CDs/DVDs sold are used to store copyrighted material… so they embedded a “copyright-tax” in the price of blank discs, so when you buy a blank CD/DVD in Hungary you pay not only for the disc, but for the music/movie distributors too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: lesnoi_olen'</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/massive-p2p-raids-in-hungary-100-servers-down/comment-page-2/#comment-148288</link>
		<dc:creator>lesnoi_olen'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Hungary, sharing or downloading  movies or music using p2P is legal, if the media was shared free of charge . Sharing copyrighted software is illegal. There were some law suits against hungarian DC hub owners in the past,  and all DC hub owners were cleared of charge. The torrent trackers, like DC hubs, store no copyrighted material, so if the current cases make it to the court, i&#039;d expect  a similar verdict.

And that&#039;s why the hungarian police confiscated the servers, not just the hard disks. They can&#039;t win at the court, so they want to make the torrent tracker&#039;s duty harder (it takes much more money to replace a whole server than a hd). Also they can withhold the servers for a long-long time (and people too... recently, a hungarian radical was jailed for several months on forged charges).

And... the lawmakers in Hungary somehow figured out that most of the blank CDs/DVDs sold are used to store copyrighted material... so they embedded a &quot;copyright-tax&quot; in the price of blank discs, so when you buy a blank CD/DVD in Hungary you pay not only for the disc, but for the music/movie distributors too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Hungary, sharing or downloading  movies or music using p2P is legal, if the media was shared free of charge . Sharing copyrighted software is illegal. There were some law suits against hungarian DC hub owners in the past,  and all DC hub owners were cleared of charge. The torrent trackers, like DC hubs, store no copyrighted material, so if the current cases make it to the court, i&#8217;d expect  a similar verdict.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why the hungarian police confiscated the servers, not just the hard disks. They can&#8217;t win at the court, so they want to make the torrent tracker&#8217;s duty harder (it takes much more money to replace a whole server than a hd). Also they can withhold the servers for a long-long time (and people too&#8230; recently, a hungarian radical was jailed for several months on forged charges).</p>
<p>And&#8230; the lawmakers in Hungary somehow figured out that most of the blank CDs/DVDs sold are used to store copyrighted material&#8230; so they embedded a &#8220;copyright-tax&#8221; in the price of blank discs, so when you buy a blank CD/DVD in Hungary you pay not only for the disc, but for the music/movie distributors too.</p>
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		<title>By: BadBug</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/massive-p2p-raids-in-hungary-100-servers-down/comment-page-2/#comment-148207</link>
		<dc:creator>BadBug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just dont see y we cant make a return of them good ol ddos bots and take the RIAA - MPAA off line...and here is an angle.... if i bought a cd say 4 years ago and my neighbor decides to steal it and i am out that cd then because i have allready bought it i already own my copy of it so i should be able to download a replacement of it free as i allready paid the peeps that want to get paid.bottom line it is all greed.who can have more money while most of us peeps that work 40 hours at a minimum wage job just to pay the rent and maybe some food cant afford to go and spend $20-$30 to go to the movies (popcorn and soda included) or buy a $30.oo DVD .Besides if i download say a new music group i never heard of and then i like em i am more pron to go to one of thier shows or buy t-shirts and stuff and even buy some of their cd&#039;s.One of the reasons music downloading has become so popular is because the lame artist make a CD with 12 songs on it 11 of them are crap and one is good as hell but i guess they want to force feed you the crap and get thier $20.oo. just my 2 cents</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just dont see y we cant make a return of them good ol ddos bots and take the RIAA &#8211; MPAA off line&#8230;and here is an angle&#8230;. if i bought a cd say 4 years ago and my neighbor decides to steal it and i am out that cd then because i have allready bought it i already own my copy of it so i should be able to download a replacement of it free as i allready paid the peeps that want to get paid.bottom line it is all greed.who can have more money while most of us peeps that work 40 hours at a minimum wage job just to pay the rent and maybe some food cant afford to go and spend $20-$30 to go to the movies (popcorn and soda included) or buy a $30.oo DVD .Besides if i download say a new music group i never heard of and then i like em i am more pron to go to one of thier shows or buy t-shirts and stuff and even buy some of their cd&#8217;s.One of the reasons music downloading has become so popular is because the lame artist make a CD with 12 songs on it 11 of them are crap and one is good as hell but i guess they want to force feed you the crap and get thier $20.oo. just my 2 cents</p>
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		<title>By: Valo</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/massive-p2p-raids-in-hungary-100-servers-down/comment-page-2/#comment-148195</link>
		<dc:creator>Valo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XDCC/fservs will always run hot. and soon they&#039;ll be under more pressure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XDCC/fservs will always run hot. and soon they&#8217;ll be under more pressure</p>
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		<title>By: Skinner</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/massive-p2p-raids-in-hungary-100-servers-down/comment-page-2/#comment-148176</link>
		<dc:creator>Skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>irc is still up with tons and tons of stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>irc is still up with tons and tons of stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: tucker</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/massive-p2p-raids-in-hungary-100-servers-down/comment-page-2/#comment-148149</link>
		<dc:creator>tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh noes USENET SI NIX!!!111</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh noes USENET SI NIX!!!111</p>
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		<title>By: llllllllllllll</title>
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		<dc:creator>llllllllllllll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>_!_ 
all high cost sofware producers..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>_!_<br />
all high cost sofware producers..</p>
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		<title>By: kelvin jenneskens</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/massive-p2p-raids-in-hungary-100-servers-down/comment-page-2/#comment-147987</link>
		<dc:creator>kelvin jenneskens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY ERIC NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR ANTI PIRACY BULL. WHILE I WORK MY ASS OFF EVERYDAY TO BENEFIT SOCIETY. WITH A REGULAR JOB THAT IS ESSENTIAL THE STUPID MEDIA CHILL AND PLAY DRESS UP AND THEN ACT OR PLAY MUSIC BOTH OF WHICH ARE A LOT OF FUN COMPARED TO MOST REGUALAR JOBS...I SHOULDNT HAVE TO SPEND MY MONEY ON THERE STUFF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY ERIC NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR ANTI PIRACY BULL. WHILE I WORK MY ASS OFF EVERYDAY TO BENEFIT SOCIETY. WITH A REGULAR JOB THAT IS ESSENTIAL THE STUPID MEDIA CHILL AND PLAY DRESS UP AND THEN ACT OR PLAY MUSIC BOTH OF WHICH ARE A LOT OF FUN COMPARED TO MOST REGUALAR JOBS&#8230;I SHOULDNT HAVE TO SPEND MY MONEY ON THERE STUFF</p>
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		<title>By: kelvin jenneskens</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/massive-p2p-raids-in-hungary-100-servers-down/comment-page-2/#comment-147986</link>
		<dc:creator>kelvin jenneskens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey ERIC THE MIDGET. SHUT UP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey ERIC THE MIDGET. SHUT UP</p>
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		<title>By: kelvin jenneskens</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/massive-p2p-raids-in-hungary-100-servers-down/comment-page-2/#comment-147985</link>
		<dc:creator>kelvin jenneskens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow this is such garbage. i hate anyone who is against p2p. seriously SCREW all those movie stars and artists who have more money than most everyone in this world for making movies or music or programs. i should have to pay 10 bucks for a cd nor should i have to pay 20 to 40 for a dvd that ill probably only watch one time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow this is such garbage. i hate anyone who is against p2p. seriously SCREW all those movie stars and artists who have more money than most everyone in this world for making movies or music or programs. i should have to pay 10 bucks for a cd nor should i have to pay 20 to 40 for a dvd that ill probably only watch one time.</p>
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