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Massive p2p raids in Hungary, 100 servers down


A sad news came from Hungary, a country which seemed to be a very secure place in terms of peer to peer networks and filesharing. Hungarian police raided and confiscated over 100 servers, including scene top sites, private bittorrent trackers and warez forums. Affected sites include the biggest and most popular hungarian tracker bitHumen (30 000 registered users), release site nCore (which is already up though), trackers Bitlove, Independent, Moobs, Revolution and many other private FTP sites which had a connection with the scene.

The raid took place on November 9 between 11 A.M. and 3 P.M. in Budapest, Hungary. The sources write about 80 individuals from both police and special anti p2p organizations involved. The confiscated servers were hosted by various internet server providers (GTS-Datanet, Deninet, CFM, Giganet), so this was a highly organized and prepared raid. BitHumen temporary site informs its members that there were no IP addresses stored at the server, so they don’t have to worry about possible consequences from their membership.

The seizure of so many servers which were connected mostly by 100 Mbit lines caused an interesting effect in the Hungarian peering center (BIX): the overall country traffic went from 60 Gbit/s to 35-40 Gbits after the raid. This is another serious attack on the filesharers in last few days – the raid of British music tracker Oink was just a beginning, followed by Demonoid’s downtime and now this issue. It looks that noone is safe anymore…

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  1. asd
    November 10th, 2007 | 15:35

    This sucks bad.

  2. bajs
    November 10th, 2007 | 15:37

    not really a problem, unless they were your only source(s). there’s still plenty of good ftp sites out there. they’ll be harder to get on as the grip tightens, anyone with some sense will have top security on their sites, but they’ll always exist. i even think they will prevail torrents, should all private trackers one day fall.

  3. asd
    November 10th, 2007 | 15:42

    Time to consider paying some for usenet.

  4. lukee
    November 10th, 2007 | 15:47

    ah that sucks :\

  5. Ray
    November 10th, 2007 | 15:48

    ther are FTP sites but they are really hard to find. Damn the world is not safe

  6. DLEW
    November 10th, 2007 | 15:50

    usenet is under heat too

  7. Yupgo
    November 10th, 2007 | 15:53

    lol admin got rickrolled.

  8. Wizard of the Orient
    November 10th, 2007 | 15:54

    No, nothing is safe. All p2p is target for the powers that be..
    when you chew into their pockets they bite back. Thats the game. Take a small bite and they won’t notice.

  9. lev400
    November 10th, 2007 | 15:55

    the scene will prevail. its bad when top sites get taken down tho. file shareing is growning even with these latest takedowns.

  10. hibby
    November 10th, 2007 | 15:56

    All these raids in different countries – I bet it’s the Illuminati starting their push for Armageddon. :-|

    Mr.x, please come and save us with an unproveable documentary made by geeky students and fat bearded WOW dwellers!! ;)

  11. Schwartz Leiberman
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:04

    Proof that the Jewish cartel known as the MPAA is gaining the upper hand. Pretty soon the Jewish mafia will have wiped out the torrent scene.

    Nothing can overcome the greed of a Jew.

  12. worldsocialism.org
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:12

    /* puts on tinfoil hat *\

    Let us geeky and/or fat bearded dwellers organize for a REVOLUTION!!!

    BTW! Can admin do something about this spam protection thing?!?!? I have to do it over about 4 times before I get it right, UGH!

  13. Vycka
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:15

    To #14 riiiiiiiigt. And aliens are with jews! I just know it!
    Back to issue. I dont think they can stop this. They can just slower development of torrent/ftp sites.

  14. Gandalf the grey
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:16

    too bad history repeats itself everytime, wats it with p2p
    first it was Kazaa/Morpheus then eDonkey/eMule now the torrents

  15. sam (TM)
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:18

    hey guys is that going to affect us.i mean that are our IP’s get affected in any way???(GET CAUGHT).actually i have less idea about it so……. .But I really support P2P Downloads.

  16. Tw!sT-DeaD
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:20

    @12 and your a Trumped up Muppet, Please look me up so I can have a Dance on your Head, Scotland/Ayrsire/Ayr/Junior, I’ll let you punch first,

    Long live rlsog

  17. Tw!sT-DeaD
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:20

    lol sorry Ma bad rlslog

  18. Dr Falken
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:21

    metallica are to blame for everything.

  19. WiC
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:21

    One falls and another rises.

    Lets hope Torrents will survive forever.

  20. Tw!sT-DeaD
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:22

    @ 2o. S@T@N thats what I was thinking .. the Guys dog must have ran away, hence coming here and Talking crap

  21. jello
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:23

    No sam you wont , becuse most of the p2p programs doesnt log ip adresses so its kinda impossible for MPAA to get any ip’s.

    yes MPAA is LAME and always will be LAME , they think that they got good plans, but sry MPAA you don’t , the only way your getin ip’s are the illigal way , and that you cannot use in court :) hf MPAA

  22. jello
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:24

    @ 23

    Rlslog.net destroy the scene? , are you stupid? , sites like this makes the scene worth doing. so gtfo kiddo :)

  23. TX
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:32

    my HU sites still up, lucky it wasnt hosted on the ones listed

  24. hibby
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:33

    PMSL @ 5(3n3r

    ‘yeh right lamer, talk onyl after you grow public hair’

    Public hair? Isn’t that the stuff on everyones head? :D

    Who’s the lamer now – self owned! 8-)

  25. XD
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:35

    so like everyoen says there are good FTP sites out ther !?

    can u name some ? give us a link ;-)

  26. Tw!sT-DeaD
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:36

    @31 >> hibby

  27. Wizard of the Orient
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:37

    @ Hibby

    ROTFL

  28. Tw!sT-DeaD
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:37

    @31 hibby good shot, bang in the publics

  29. Wizard of the Orient
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:42

    @ Twi!steaD great penalty shot ROTFL. Ouch!

  30. Tw!sT-DeaD
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:46

    lol, at this rate I’ll see the end of the movie i’ve been watching just before they bring out a part 2,

    Long live rlslog

    Thank god there is no Shout box ;)

  31. Rob
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:46

    Seems like swedens the best place for p2p Bt activity, since they aint doing that around here :O or atleast the laws aint that tight

  32. TRON
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:48

    What’s public hair? I know what pubic hair is, but not public hair. Please are so idiotic, they love to shout but can’t spell to save their life.

  33. plehr
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:50

    The bithumen site says it will be soon up again. :)
    So i don’t worry. ftp-s and sms site’s their admin who collect money they deserve to go in prison. they earn minimum 36000000 HUF thats 210526 USD /year . just for operating an ftp server.

    Torrent is free so they can’t charge the people who run it . In hungary police only charges people who get profit from operating it. so that’s why bh will be up again.!

    Hello from Hungary!

  34. B3N-D
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:51

    Please spoil some of your time writing a letter to ASVA,
    which is the anti-piracy organization behind the raid.

    asva@asva.hu

  35. Tw!sT-DeaD
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:52

    @40 Tron, firstly Love your movie, Secondly I see you were born Without The Sarcastic and Humoris bones

  36. (A Hungarian) DuDe
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:54

    As much as I know about the raid, there are not more than about two dozens of servers, that were confiscated. An official press conference will be held on monday…

    The police accidentally confiscated a few servers that has nothing to do with the scene :( The owners had to run after their servers to the police and deal with them all night get them back.

    I also think that there is nothing much they can do with the torrent servers, except to give them back to their owners…so torrent sites can rock on ;)

  37. B3N-D
    November 10th, 2007 | 16:56

    FTP sites were raided also.
    Private torrent sites collect money too, ppl (with slow upload speed which is quite often in Hungary) may need to pay for extra privileges, or they get banned from the tracker.
    however ppl got the choice to download free. (faking upload)

  38. jello
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:00

    @29
    Public hair? , you grow up please. you just got selfowned :)

    if you knew the pressure of the scene you prob would be long gone.

  39. Celico
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:03

    The bitHUmen was generated massively more traffic than lots of other sites abroad. :(

  40. Mafi
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:04

    Hajra magyarok!!!

  41. 47
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:08

    47

  42. Damien
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:11

    Within the next month, Torrents wont exsist if it carrys on like this.

  43. rls
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:17

    @50

    then let the World War 3 Begin! 8)

  44. flipz
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:17

    Ok, there are a lot of points that just don’t make sense. And this goes without saying most of the time… Yes scene people, we know you hate the p2p downloaders. However, without the p2p people, your releases would remain stagnant in a small cesspool of nothingness. Thank us for spreading your worthwhile releases and making the scene as competitive as it is now.

    Now, for my money, I’d say this was an inside job. You can’t tell me that HIGHLY private FTP sites went down in a blaze of glory if something wasn’t right. Someone within the scene leaked info to the wrong people. Unless the Hungarian police went randomly trolling through FTP traffic, zeroed in on the biggest sources, hacked the server and found massive amounts of warez. And that scenario is highly doubtful.

    Whenever something of this size and magnitude goes down, there is always a mole. There is always something not quite right. And in this case, it was a HUGE something. And don’t think that you’re safe when you use a proxy or use PeerGuardian. This is major proof that with the right motivation, antip2p forces can and will find you. It goes without saying that when you break the law (no matter if its legal in one country and illegal in another) the law will eventually find you. History has proven that.

    The only thing you can do now is increase your security. The sites need to do this, and us end-users need to do that. Stories like this only make the antip2p engine move better, faster, stronger.

    In all honesty, we’re in a war. And its a war that will wage for a long time. Pray to whomever your higher power is that the p2p crowd and the scene lives on.

  45. OneMan
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:23

    I’m from Hungary, and I can say that nCore wasn’t raided, that’s why it was up a day later, they were doing scheduled maintenance. As for bithumen, they say they’ll be back. Pray and Pray for the P2P community.

  46. Tw!sT-DeaD
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:24

    @51 >> rls

  47. Isis
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:24

    lol i love this, i feel sorry for the people that dont have any contact with the scene.
    give it another month or 2 and majority of the big private trackers will be gone.

    only small private trackers will still exist, and scene ftps, there still the best for stuff

  48. Tw!sT-DeaD
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:24

    @51 m8 WW3 begins when you get married ;) the Mother_in_Law starts it

  49. Rudi
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:26

    @ Schwartz Leiberman & lolzz

    you’re some stupid kids and a disgrace to your retarted parents. go in your room!!!

    @ topic

    the king is dead. long live the king.

  50. Kurt
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:27

    I really do feel bad for those people. And I agree, we are in a war, but one in which we are somewhat winning. But with Comcast’s actions, we can see that the anti-p2p industry is making huge strides to stop it once and for all. Although “most” of us are safe for now, who knows? Tomorrow, we could see something horrific happen, like the raid of newtorrents, the pirate bay, mininova, exc. But as we’ve seen in the past (TPB) people are willing to stand up for the p2p industry. Long live the pirates.

  51. fart
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:31

    Does that mean I have to boycott Gulasch now? But it’s so delishus. :(

  52. rls
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:32

    @56

    i’m already married? :D

  53. Tw!sT-DeaD
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:37

    lol

  54. JonC
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:40

    I am from Hungary too, and I’m not worried about the dead of filesharing in this absurd country… they just wanted to defeat the data traffic, and they suceed… :( no IP-s or any personal info was on those servers, but torrent files… so nothing illegal. they now will say: “sorry guys, we will inspect the servers, it could be quite long time… some months maybe”. but as I know, the owners of the trackers are planning to replace the missing hardware, and everything will be the same… they have backups (about one week old backups), so the f*** police can’t defeat our freedom, don’t worry :) but the story is still very sad, it was only harmful for all of us… :( my favourite porn-tracker (bitlove) is still out of order, so I’m very upset… :(

  55. antony
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:41

    Sadly, when the bithumen down almost the whole hungarian scene release is stopped. I hope they will be back soon.

  56. JonC
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:45

    @antony: I hope too, in spite I’m not registered on it. but the effect of it’s stop is spreaded over the whole scene: there are more few new releases while they stucked it up…

  57. Necc
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:45

    Hy. Some information are not correct.
    Fist everybody talked a huge number of servers, but now everybody talking only a few servers (still no fix numbers, but not 100, not 80 it seems that only around 20-30).

    “so this was a highly organized…” i don’t think so! Well yes some part of it is true, but the police took the servers “randomly” and not as an organized anything! They took away a lot of 100% legally working servers too (not including now torrent trackers what is legal here). If they was so organized then why not taking only the warez servers?

    Finally the police primary target was not p2p networks (also they will be alive soon, because torrent trackers is not illegaly here, because no illegal content stored on the server), the primary target was the “warez-SMS” sites, (also you send money by SMS to pirates and you can download a lot of data via FTP).

  58. nuku
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:46

    Magyarok, cselekedjünk!!! Azokon a szervereken nem igen fognak mit találni, lévén a bithumen csak torrent tracker!

    Hungaians, do something! Those servers doesn’t contain any illegal data. The Bithuman site was basicly a torrent tracker.

  59. Necc
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:49

    nuku they do! Download this: http://necc.uw.hu/kialtvany.zip
    p.s.: that file is not created by me, it is just a copy, the original source is unknown. The file contains hungarian text only.

  60. vologya
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:51

    A rohadt disznók, lelőtték a Gigatorrens – et is. És gondolom nem ez volt az egyetlen.

  61. indianpunk
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:52

    i dont care abt these hunagarian sites coz u can get all this stuff fromother places but damn i want demonoid back soon

  62. Necc
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:54

    Hey vologya this is an english site please respect this and do not start flaming here! It is uneffected/ignored here anyway. Go to hungarian forums and flame there! Other people not interested about our flamings. Thx.

  63. nesomumi
    November 10th, 2007 | 17:55

    Well, it is sad news for us p2p-rers, but we live in a world in whitch we are the bad guys. The solution excist, but i dont think that ther is enough will power to make a chainge.
    Injoj will you can ;) .

  64. skysky
    November 10th, 2007 | 18:00

    A Gigatorrents-et nem löttte le senki.A vezetőség kapcsolta ki,míg el nem csendesednek a dolgom.Nyugi! Bithumen is visszafog tőrni.

  65. Alex Jones Jr
    November 10th, 2007 | 18:00

    Soon , very soon , the RIAA – MPAA – Google – Symantec – Microsoft and EA will merge and the New World Order will be born !!!!!!

    The biblical beast is coming folks !!!! Stay vigilant and alert !!!!!

  66. Mike
    November 10th, 2007 | 18:04

    @13 Have you tried learning basic math?

  67. nOObs
    November 10th, 2007 | 18:08

    LOL

  68. PG
    November 10th, 2007 | 18:08

    The best defense is and will always be an offense…

    In my opinion the scene must strike back whenever something like this happens. We cannot let the MAFIAA win – we need to hit them where it hurts, make them understand that they can go out of business in one of two ways if they don’t evolve their business model: Pirates killing their business or people not accepting their methods and boycotting their products.

  69. uga
    November 10th, 2007 | 18:19

    What I really wish some guys to think at is that these kind of news are not just something to read quickly and just say: “Oh, who cares, there will still be other trackers where to grab stuff”. Even if that is indeed true (there are a lot of trackers on-line to rely on), please guys…think at the staff members of the trackers which where shut down. These guys (most of them), don’t get a cent for their work on the trackers, and they risk a lot for your joy (downloading free stuff).
    So please…don’t say that a site (no matter if small, on an X country, if you don’t use it, etc..) shut down doesn’t matter. It matters as it effects people’s lives.
    Just my opinion.

  70. lee
    November 10th, 2007 | 18:23

    I thinks that this as nothing to do to p2p, scene, its all about trafic isps paid a lot for bandwith and between movies an games the trafic must be pretty awesome.

  71. Bako1
    November 10th, 2007 | 18:24

    @55 i want contact withthe scene lol i already have a good big private tracker so im not worried as for small private tracker i need a couple of those so can you help me i dotn want to be left out@!!!

  72. nadix
    November 10th, 2007 | 18:54

    beelzebub
    “right, everyone who uses P2P is lame”

    :D DDD o man you say the right muhahahahhh. thx.

  73. November 10th, 2007 | 19:08

    If it is to do with people paying for warez to download (specifically) then by all means shut down the ‘SMS’ FTPs.

  74. Wazz
    November 10th, 2007 | 19:11
  75. Anonymouzor
    November 10th, 2007 | 19:17

    its wierd the lobby can push for police to take servers even though basicly everyone knows they dont host copyrighted material, some have been in custody for years in some places even though their just meta files.. witch is as legal as sneesing.
    google links to files and is worse then torrent sites, filesharing sites hosts content and is worse then most other forms of sharing where the users host.
    yet they are ignored, they keep their servers with copyrighted material and torrent sites gets busted, witch has nothing except meta files..

    Only reason TPB has done good, is that they manage to explain wtf meta files are and how they are not infringing copyright using them. also they go to court and dont make deals or nice gestures (evul to the users) to private organisations trying to stay safe like demonoid and others..

  76. DukeNuke
    November 10th, 2007 | 19:20

    Oink is dead
    TVlinks is dead
    Demonoid is dead

    and now this.

    The noose tightens but as it tightens more sites start to appear.

  77. Tw!sT-DeaD
    November 10th, 2007 | 19:28

    @84 In Asheville, North Carolina it is illegal to sneeze on city streets. lolol

  78. Jacky
    November 10th, 2007 | 19:31

    hm………..when will they shutdown newtorrents.info ;(

  79. QuadrupelQ
    November 10th, 2007 | 19:32

    “This is another serious attack on the filesharers in last few days – the raid of British music tracker Oink was just a beginning, followed by Demonoid’s downtime and now this issue. It looks that noone is safe anymore…”

    It’s what I’ve been telling since the “BREIN-attack” on Demonoid. The screws are getting tightened for P2P sites. They are not like a phoenix, seldom new ones rise from the ashes (Demonoid was the exception, and I hope it will be again soon). Next up Pirate Bay? Mininova? Or even…GASP…rlslog???

  80. nOObs
    November 10th, 2007 | 19:46

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm……

    End of the day the sites promote illegal file sharing.

    they may not host the files but they enable us to get them.

    It will be a case of evolving

    IE.. from a direct connection—> torrent—-> something else….

    It happens every so often
    Torrents were just a way to get around the old file share laws, something else will come into effect and then we will move on.

    Cat Vs Mouse

  81. aszfaltos
    November 10th, 2007 | 19:49

    FREE bitHUmen!!!!!!

  82. Another Hungarian
    November 10th, 2007 | 19:55

    Huge respect flies to you due posting international notice of our little country’s events! This is melting me and make me so pround!

    Keep up the good work

  83. Another Hungarian
    November 10th, 2007 | 19:58

    proud

  84. Daryl
    November 10th, 2007 | 19:59

    Where can I get some of that public hair ???

  85. jujuba
    November 10th, 2007 | 20:09

    The net was designed by DARPA to withstand and survive a fullscale nuclear strike across multiple population centers…somehow I rather doubt the efficacy of these recidivist efforts.

  86. MaSteR
    November 10th, 2007 | 20:14

    Ne csüggedjetek magyarok! Torrent volt,van és lesz!!!! //amig ez a Föld kerek mindig lesznek trackerek// :-)

  87. killer
    November 10th, 2007 | 20:19

    use Hide IP Platinum and nobody can track you

  88. nOObs
    November 10th, 2007 | 20:19

    it would survive a nuclear strike because the net is not run from one central server

    It is made up of lots thats why when the net goes down in one part of the world it doesnt in another

    :D

  89. rls
    November 10th, 2007 | 20:33

    well, of one thing i’m sure.

    IF THE P2P SITES GET CLOSED THE ISPs WILL LOOSE MUCH CLIENTS

    i think you understand. :D

  90. endoe
    November 10th, 2007 | 20:42

    Anyone think this may go hand in hand with the Writers strike. Theyre strking for not giving money from DL off the net to the writers. Cheaper to stop DL than pay the writers. Either way, I see both situations being temporary – Filesharing will live and the writers will get paid.

  91. DOn
    November 10th, 2007 | 21:20

    Usenet cant be shut down it has been around before the internet was created. As far as Torrents go hahahahaha
    dont make me laugh, as for newbs using torrents and getting their stuff on the WWW sites will continue to get shut down on the WWW!!!

    Torrents are for noobies and teenie boppers.

  92. glory
    November 10th, 2007 | 21:22

    lol@endoe-the writers are on strike for a share of LEGAL download monies-its got nothing to do with torrents at all-what a ridiculous idea!

  93. pitu
    November 10th, 2007 | 21:31

    WTF they should be fighting REAL CRIMINALS intead of this bs. Douchebags……

  94. satake
    November 10th, 2007 | 22:00

    What about host servers like rapidshare and magaupload? Are those safe in any way to download from?

  95. pulyka^
    November 10th, 2007 | 22:58

    @69 : I dont think so… where can we find movies with hungarian dubs?? Only on Hungarian trackers, so please dont say
    you dont care ’bout it…
    Respect for Hungarian trackers, for Hungarian people, and respect for people who are standing next to us..

    p.s. : sorry for my bad english , but nobody can be perfect

  96. Dhaiwon
    November 10th, 2007 | 22:59

    I’ll give it a year before something new comes up to replace torrents. The harder they crack down at what’s being used, the more people is likely to try create something new and better.

  97. MarcusVR
    November 10th, 2007 | 23:15

    One fall, ten raises!

  98. Howard Stern
    November 10th, 2007 | 23:43

    Hey …. Just like in the good old USA … Take down one drug dealer and ten more step up to take their place…

    never surrender

  99. Eric the Midget
    November 11th, 2007 | 00:53

    @MarcusVR

    Do you have a list of the those ten new sites please? I only see sites going away, not starting up. :(

  100. Rekrul
    November 11th, 2007 | 01:06

    Am I the only one who sees a parallel between what the media corporations are doing now and what the Catholic church did hundreds of years ago? Sure they’re not torturing and executing people, but other than that, they’re acting pretty similar.

    Lots of people are defying them, so they’re doing their best to stamp out anything they don’t like. Governments are bowing down and doing what the media corporations tell them to. They’re basically writing the laws and crimilizing things that a large majority of people seem to want to do.

    Copyright infringement has become the new witchhunt.

  101. synonymous
    November 11th, 2007 | 01:08

    I don’t get why people go after those who host stuff like this, when there are much worse crimes being committed every hour. Just go downtown, you’ll see a jay walker every few minutes. Yes, jay walking is worse than piracy of virtual products because when you “steal” something virtual, you aren’t really stealing. Stealing is when you walk into a store, and grab something, and walk out without paying for it. Jay walking is putting a someone’s life at risk. So who should the police really be going after here?

  102. dude
    November 11th, 2007 | 01:11

    Im pretty hungary, maybe i will eat 100 servers tonight

  103. Jason
    November 11th, 2007 | 01:35

    every time a server is taken down a new is born, every time a new protection is made, it is cracked. it is one big circle.

    WE are at WAR many of the Great site may die in this war but
    new site will be born form their ashes.

    It would be good if someone could come up with a new Peer Guardian software or adding something like ssh connection to trackers.
    Long live The Scene

  104. Eric the Midget
    November 11th, 2007 | 01:54

    @Rekrul

    Yes, you are the only one who sees any connection like that at all. No one is “defying” a media company, they are simply stealing from them. Big difference.

    @synonymous

    Your idea that “piracy of virtual products” is not taking money out of someones pocket is immature at best. Copyright infringement prevents a media company from possibly making a sale because their product has already been distributed by illegal means. Wake up.

    @Jason

    Some people just have no clue.

  105. kelvin jenneskens
    November 11th, 2007 | 03:01

    wow this is such garbage. i hate anyone who is against p2p. seriously SCREW all those movie stars and artists who have more money than most everyone in this world for making movies or music or programs. i should have to pay 10 bucks for a cd nor should i have to pay 20 to 40 for a dvd that ill probably only watch one time.

  106. kelvin jenneskens
    November 11th, 2007 | 03:04

    hey ERIC THE MIDGET. SHUT UP

  107. kelvin jenneskens
    November 11th, 2007 | 03:06

    HEY ERIC NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR ANTI PIRACY BULL. WHILE I WORK MY ASS OFF EVERYDAY TO BENEFIT SOCIETY. WITH A REGULAR JOB THAT IS ESSENTIAL THE STUPID MEDIA CHILL AND PLAY DRESS UP AND THEN ACT OR PLAY MUSIC BOTH OF WHICH ARE A LOT OF FUN COMPARED TO MOST REGUALAR JOBS…I SHOULDNT HAVE TO SPEND MY MONEY ON THERE STUFF

  108. llllllllllllll
    November 11th, 2007 | 08:58

    _!_
    all high cost sofware producers..

  109. tucker
    November 11th, 2007 | 11:04

    oh noes USENET SI NIX!!!111

  110. Skinner
    November 11th, 2007 | 11:30

    irc is still up with tons and tons of stuff.

  111. Valo
    November 11th, 2007 | 11:50

    XDCC/fservs will always run hot. and soon they’ll be under more pressure

  112. BadBug
    November 11th, 2007 | 12:09

    I just dont see y we cant make a return of them good ol ddos bots and take the RIAA – MPAA off line…and here is an angle…. if i bought a cd say 4 years ago and my neighbor decides to steal it and i am out that cd then because i have allready bought it i already own my copy of it so i should be able to download a replacement of it free as i allready paid the peeps that want to get paid.bottom line it is all greed.who can have more money while most of us peeps that work 40 hours at a minimum wage job just to pay the rent and maybe some food cant afford to go and spend $20-$30 to go to the movies (popcorn and soda included) or buy a $30.oo DVD .Besides if i download say a new music group i never heard of and then i like em i am more pron to go to one of thier shows or buy t-shirts and stuff and even buy some of their cd’s.One of the reasons music downloading has become so popular is because the lame artist make a CD with 12 songs on it 11 of them are crap and one is good as hell but i guess they want to force feed you the crap and get thier $20.oo. just my 2 cents

  113. lesnoi_olen'
    November 11th, 2007 | 13:51

    In Hungary, sharing or downloading movies or music using p2P is legal, if the media was shared free of charge . Sharing copyrighted software is illegal. There were some law suits against hungarian DC hub owners in the past, and all DC hub owners were cleared of charge. The torrent trackers, like DC hubs, store no copyrighted material, so if the current cases make it to the court, i’d expect a similar verdict.

    And that’s why the hungarian police confiscated the servers, not just the hard disks. They can’t win at the court, so they want to make the torrent tracker’s duty harder (it takes much more money to replace a whole server than a hd). Also they can withhold the servers for a long-long time (and people too… recently, a hungarian radical was jailed for several months on forged charges).

    And… the lawmakers in Hungary somehow figured out that most of the blank CDs/DVDs sold are used to store copyrighted material… so they embedded a “copyright-tax” in the price of blank discs, so when you buy a blank CD/DVD in Hungary you pay not only for the disc, but for the music/movie distributors too.

  114. Orwen
    November 11th, 2007 | 19:23

    “And… the lawmakers in Hungary somehow figured out that most of the blank CDs/DVDs sold are used to store copyrighted material… so they embedded a “copyright-tax” in the price of blank discs, so when you buy a blank CD/DVD in Hungary you pay not only for the disc, but for the music/movie distributors too.”

    Yeah, that’s true.

  115. Cooper
    November 11th, 2007 | 21:39

    Bithu was the biggest closed-source hungarian tracker. Majomparade,nCore,Preto,and all the others’ users were totally scared of their IPS (one of my friends has an acc on all of them). Oh,yeah,one of my friends is an admin an a rising tracker,and another one is creating one ATM

  116. bsx
    November 12th, 2007 | 11:49

    pictures about the busted servers: http://asva.info/#pol

  117. Kay
    November 12th, 2007 | 17:00

    I think the ISP’s and internet companies should back p2p, the only reason ppl use large bandwidth is for the soul purpose of p2p. once you remove p2p sources, there will be a huge dramitic drop of large bandwidth users, as there wont be the need for it.
    they will lose their customers by the ton!
    they better take the p2p side before its too late.

  118. rising
    November 12th, 2007 | 19:21

    the real bandwith sucker is youtube,google video and other streaming services in internet. why they blamed p2p..
    so sad…

  119. sohail20
    December 31st, 2008 | 16:11

    as more istes get shut down but i have links to scene ftp servers aatleast im whitin where the source is!
    as top sites get shut down all lower down pubic sites which host new torents will slow down in distrubting thmem.

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