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Man decapitates passenger aboard Greyhound bus in Manitoba

This is some shocking and horrific news I found important to share with everyone. At this time we’re not sure whether the attack was racially motivated.

A passenger repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated a young man aboard a Greyhound bus travelling through Manitoba overnight in what appears to be a random attack, witnesses told CBC News.

Police officers spent the night examining a Greyhound bus where a passenger was reportedly stabbed and decapitated late Wednesday.Police officers spent the night examining a Greyhound bus where a passenger was reportedly stabbed and decapitated late Wednesday. (John Woods/Canadian Press)The RCMP would not confirm the reports of beheading, saying only that a stabbing took place around 8:30 p.m. CT on an eastbound Greyhound bus on the Trans-Canada Highway about 20 kilometres west of Portage la Prairie, Man.

A 40-year-old man believed to be from outside Manitoba was arrested early Thursday morning and remains in RCMP custody. Charges have not yet been laid, and the suspect has not yet been interviewed, said RCMP spokesman Staff Sgt. Steve Colwell, adding that he could release no further information on the investigation.

RCMP declined to identify either the suspect or the victim.

Thirty-seven passengers and a driver were aboard the bus en route to Winnipeg from Edmonton.

Passenger Cody Olmstead, 21, told CBC News he had smoked a cigarette earlier in the trip with the victim, whom he described as a man in his late teens or early 20s. The victim got on the bus in Edmonton, he said.

“I never took the time to know him, but he seemed to be OK, right, just a kid,” said Olmstead, a Nova Scotia man who had been taking the bus from Alberta to Montreal.

“He just said he was going to Winnipeg … going home, that’s where he was from.”


‘Blood-curdling scream’

Garnet Caton, who was sitting in the seat in front of the victim, said he saw the attacker stab his seatmate, a young man sleeping with his headphones on.

Caton said he heard a “blood-curdling scream” and turned around to see the attacker holding a large “Rambo” hunting knife above the victim, “continually stabbing him in the chest area.”

“He must have stabbed him 50 times or 60 times,” said Caton.

“Like, just everywhere, arms, legs, neck, chest, guts, wherever he could swing it, he got it,” said Olmstead.

“It looked kind of like a scuffle or an argument, you know, and then somebody’s, like, ‘Knife! Knife! Run!’ so I was running up the alleyway, slapping people telling them to get going, move, get off the bus. I got pushed over, some lady got pushed over, I was just making sure everybody was OK, and we all got off the bus,” said Olmstead

As panicked passengers fled the bus, “the attacker was over top of the victim … continually cutting him. I think the victim was gone at that point,” Caton said.
Trio tried to check on victim

Caton, the driver and a trucker who had stopped at the scene later boarded the vehicle to see if the victim was still alive.

Garnet Caton said he heard a ‘blood-curdling scream’ and turned around to see a man repeatedly stabbing the passenger sitting next to him.Garnet Caton said he heard a ‘blood-curdling scream’ and turned around to see a man repeatedly stabbing the passenger sitting next to him. (CBC)”When we came back on the bus, it was visible at the end of the bus he was cutting the guy’s head off and pretty much gutting him up,” said Caton.

The attacker ran at them, Caton said, and they ran out of the bus, holding the door shut as he tried to slash at the trio.

When the attacker tried to drive the bus away, the driver disabled the vehicle, Caton said.

“While we were watching the door, he calmly walks up to the front with the head in his hand and the knife and just calmly stares at us and drops the head right in front of us,” said Caton.

“They did an awesome thing, holding him in there, because if not, what would have happened?” said Olmstead.

RCMP crisis teams, including negotiators, communicated with the suspect for several hours while he was on the bus. Around 1:30 a.m., he attempted to jump from a bus window and was subdued and arrested, RCMP said.
Acted ‘like he was a robot’

Caton described the attacker as surprisingly calm. “It was like he was at the beach or something. There was no rage in him. He wasn’t swearing or cursing or anything. It was just like he was a robot or something.”

Police cruisers arrived about 10 minutes after the attack began, he estimates, and officers began directing passengers to school buses to take them to a hotel in Brandon.

“While we were waiting on the side of the road, [the attacker] was taunting the police with the head in his hand,” said Caton.

Caton described the attacker as appearing “totally normal” earlier in the journey, even chatting with a young woman as he smoked a cigarette during a break.

But when he got back on the bus, he moved his belongings from the front to a seat beside the victim in the back and about 20 minutes later began attacking the man, said Caton. “He didn’t say anything to the victim at all,” said Caton.
Counsellors, chaplains aid passengers

A six-year-old and other children were among the passengers who saw the horrific incident unfold, said Caton.

“It was pretty traumatic,” he said, adding that some passengers said they have been unable to sleep or eat since it happened.

“It’s disturbing,” Olmstead agreed, adding that images of the previous night haunted him when he tried to fall asleep early Thursday morning. “I closed my eyes and I seen him in the window there, just like a madman.”

Bev Cumming, head of acute care services for the Brandon Regional Health Authority, said chaplains and psychiatric nurses have been working with dozens of passengers on the bus since they arrived in Brandon.

Bus violence

Recent violent incidents that have occurred on Greyhound buses in Canada:

* Dec. 24, 2007: A 27-year-old man is stabbed after an argument with another passenger on a bus near Tweed, Ont.
* Feb. 16, 2007: A group of people in their 20s attack and beat the driver of a bus in Lloydminster, Alta.
* Dec. 23, 2000: A man attempts to take control of a bus near Thunder Bay, Ont. Thirty-two passengers are injured when the bus lands on its side in a ditch. One woman later dies of her injuries.
* March, 2000. A pregnant woman is attacked by a man on a bus in London, Ont. The woman suffered injuries to her arms.

“When you see something as horrifying as that, the brain locks on to those images. It’s very difficult to release those images,” Cumming said.

“The assistance that people will get will be along the lines of coping in the immediate phase, learning what to do to reduce the profound effect this experience will have.”

Tim Sen, president of Trauma Management Group, which offers counselling and post-traumatic support in Ontario, said it will take time for bus passengers to come to terms with what they’ve seen.

“They will experience very, very vivid flashbacks of that occurrence. Those will usually dissipate over a period of time, but right now it’s going to be very vivid [as] they’re still dealing with the shock and processing this horrific event,” he said.

“There’s not a right or wrong way to go through this. Some people will still be in shock and being very flat in presentation, like nothing’s happened. Other people may not get out of bed and not want to move for a while, or be having what we call very acute [responses], so they’ll be maybe crying and not wanting to calm down at all. Everybody’s going to go through this very difficult journey in a very different way.”

For children on the bus, Sen said, the response will depend on the age and maturity of the child. Generally, the key message caregivers should try to convey is that the situation is over and the child is now safe.

If intense feelings and emotions and symptoms such as flashbacks don’t subside within a few months, Sen said, the passengers should consider seeking professional help.
Investigation is in ‘full motion’: minister

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day commented on the killing, saying that like most Canadians, he was horrified to hear witness accounts of the homicide.

“The horrific nature of it is probably one of a kind in Canadian history,” he told reporters late Thursday morning in Lévis, Que.

The minister said he didn’t want to say anything that would compromise the investigation, but “I can assure people that everything is in full motion and momentum to getting to the bottom of this incident.”

Questioned about whether weapons regulations should be put into place for buses, Day said it would be premature to look at such precautionary measures but added that the legal process will be followed as “aggressively as possible.”

Greyhound spokeswoman Abby Wambaugh said the company is examining security on buses.

“We are working with Transport Canada to review inter-city bus security,” she said.

“Due to the rural nature of our network, airport-type security is not practical for bus travel. It’s just a completely different system.”

CBC.ca

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  1. Skullie
    August 1st, 2008 | 03:50

    thats a nice pic of the knife…did you google “kife” and pick the first pic in the search?…i guess some ppl need to know what a f#ckin knife looks like mr. x azzhole

  2. God
    August 1st, 2008 | 04:11

    Just another example of RLSLOG going down the toilet.
    Whoever owns this site, should look to drop some of these clueless “staff”, who post nothing but crap.
    Half these knob jockeys cant even be assed to post torrent links to the releases they get around to posting.
    RLSLOG used to be a quality site when I first started using it, now…well, to put it mildly, it sucks.

  3. Newtype
    August 1st, 2008 | 04:12

    @116, Cyx

    You should come to Montreal, it’s different from the rest of Canada and it’s a very multicultural city. Plus, in our French Canadian culture’s history we’ve always been the oppressed minority, so it’s not in our nature to do to others what we had, and still have on some occasions, to endure. And yeah, there are great English universities.

  4. Bob Evens
    August 1st, 2008 | 04:13

    @Everyone

    Hummmm, dont know who i want to pick a fight with?
    The crying @ssholes who give a sh!t, or the @ssholes `
    who dont, someone pick for me…

  5. hype
    August 1st, 2008 | 04:19

    lol childish people are childish?

    so what if news is posted…skip it and go to the next posting.

  6. GOD just needs to get the fu*k out
    August 1st, 2008 | 04:22

    Well GOD you can always GTFO!

  7. kill bill
    August 1st, 2008 | 04:33

    For: PT >

    Yeah, so what happens when you knock the guy out (even though the victims has already been dead for minutes while people were sleeping on the bus), and then after the media praises you for it. The guy pleads insanity and gets released in this stupid system, and who’s head do you think he’ll be looking for?

    Honestly, maybe 10-20 years ago, but right now the people in this world are really f*c*ed up!

  8. Tony
    August 1st, 2008 | 04:37

    Mirrors? some1 send me serial and the .exe crack? ….and a trainer. ty!

  9. Fear of the Dark
    August 1st, 2008 | 04:37

    I’ve never heard so many complainers in my life.

  10. A.Bundy
    August 1st, 2008 | 04:56

    but he got to his destination, right? isnt that what matters? LMAO!

    “piti July 31st, 2008 | 21:09 This is nothing compared to the muslim guy who walked into a supermarket and cut his sisters sons head off in front of her eyes.”

    Isnt that the whole nature of the muslim cult? I call it a cult because it has been proven that it propagates no peace, unlike every other religious sect out there. Hell, even pagans are more peaceful, LOL!

  11. david
    August 1st, 2008 | 04:58

    I hate it to see all those posts from complainers. Please stick to the downloading and do not comment.

    hmmmm

    complaining about complainers….. lol

  12. Yikes
    August 1st, 2008 | 05:33

    Can’t wait for the PROPER!

  13. oxymoron
    August 1st, 2008 | 05:45

    what scene group released this piece of news…this site needs more irrelevant content, I love trolls

  14. mr. weed
    August 1st, 2008 | 05:57

    where can i download the torrent?

  15. SuitcaseBomb
    August 1st, 2008 | 06:12

    What’s up with all the America bashing? You trolls don’t even bother to read the story before you go off on “LOL Americans are the devil!”

    This was in Canada. I talked to my English friend the other day about the record knife crime murders in England and he said “Yeah it’s pretty bad, but America is still a lot worse.” What the hell? And what about in Japan a guy drives his car into a crowd of people in a busy shopping district, hops out and starts hacking them up? So I guess Japan and England are also f*cked up terrible places too, right?

    This is not ‘America’ you ignorant f*cks. This is the world gone mad. I’m an American even though I don’t live there currently, and it really sickens me how people spout off such ignorant bullsh*t without ever coming here. Do you not see the hypocrisy of your statements?

    Being black in the South is ‘just asked to be burned on a cross’?! The South in the U.S. is the most densely populated area for blacks… what an idiot.

    If you really think you’re so much better sitting in your basement in Scandinavia or some other country that’s never done anything important in its MUCH MUCH longer history, you need to reexamine your thought process. F*cked up stuff happens everywhere.

  16. aaa
    August 1st, 2008 | 06:18

    you’re all a bunch of ****ing tools. If you want movies, select MOVIES from the Category dropdown menu. This was in offtopic, if you’re not interested don’t click and don’t complain :|

  17. August 1st, 2008 | 06:20

    @ 206
    actually I took the first picture in google search for ‘rambo knife’ . but good guess.

  18. darkmatter
    August 1st, 2008 | 06:21

    Stop posting such idiotic topics. I come to this site for releases. Remember? RELEASElog? If you continue to post this kind of crap I’m not coming back again!

  19. BSacks
    August 1st, 2008 | 06:24

    Dude… thats fuked up

  20. dosguy
    August 1st, 2008 | 06:26

    O.J. did it.

  21. 1040steman
    August 1st, 2008 | 06:28

    What goes ‘Hah,Hah,Hah” Bonk,Bonk,Bonk… some dude laughing his head off…

  22. skeev
    August 1st, 2008 | 06:45

    What a waste of time….why the hel post something like this…so that we can all make fools of ourselves by telling Mr X hes an ass?

    cos that seems to be the only point in doing it…

    (Mr X`s brain) “how can I annoy lots of people on rslog WITHOUT posting the softporn shows I love sooo much?”..I know..random news about extreme violence..thats the ticket….!

    Wouldn’t It be nice to have ONE place we can visit on the net that doesn’t love to get excited about terror and violence from news….

    I like my terror and violence to be made up thanks….and I can watch Fox News for that…

    Oh yeh and before the hundred or more people say “if you dont like it dont come here..or dont post..this is the same argument made about America all the time..

    “If you dont like it…get out” ..I do like release log…which is why rubbish like this should be left elsewhere..

    nuff said..lets get on with torrents and such..

  23. Willy
    August 1st, 2008 | 06:47

    Lets see, two ways we could avoid this…

    1. We don’t let these people come to Europe, America, or Canada, because their culture of head severing doesn’t fit with our cultures.

    2. We let people carry guns so they can shoot these arab wierdos. I know Americans can carry in most states, but in a lot of Europe you can not very easily, and probably Canada is like most of Europe with these harsh gun laws (I think).

    Those losers that watched a sleeping guy get his head cut off will have a nice ride to hell I think.

  24. Punchdrunk
    August 1st, 2008 | 06:48

    This is some shocking and horrific news I found important to share with everyone.

    I’m still employed by RLSLOG.

    In other shocking and horrific news, people who aren’t white move amongst us like alien invaders. Kill them! Kill them all! Kill them and tell them Mr X said so!

  25. Free Scottland and Quebec
    August 1st, 2008 | 07:09

    228. I see wut you did ther,

    in other cool news 1 in 3 UK Muslim students approve killing for Islam…
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4407115.ece

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=70673

    enjoy your Socialist Police State before it turn to a Islamic Police State… for the lulz

  26. Alex
    August 1st, 2008 | 07:13
  27. EPirate
    August 1st, 2008 | 07:49

    I appreciate your posting this also

  28. Willy
    August 1st, 2008 | 07:54

    Wow 232…lol @ the name “Mohamed D’Ali Carvalho dos Santos”…didn’t know there was muslim bean eaters. That girl was asking for trouble dating Mohamed Ali.

  29. ZaP
    August 1st, 2008 | 07:56

    Last
    WooHoo!

  30. hmm
    August 1st, 2008 | 08:36

    See the video from the killer: http://wapdailynews.com

  31. Mohammed the Pedo
    August 1st, 2008 | 09:15

    Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

    Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

    Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called “religious rights.”

    When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to “the reasonable” Muslim demands for their “religious rights,” they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)). As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

    United States — Muslim 1.0%

    Australia — Muslim 1.5%

    Canada — Muslim 1.9%

    China — Muslim 1%-2%

    Italy — Muslim 1.5%

    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

    Denmark — Muslim 2%

    Germany — Muslim 3.7%

    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%

    Spain — Muslim 4%

    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

    France — Muslim 8%

    Philippines — Muslim 5%

    Sweden — Muslim 5%

    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%

    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%

    Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris — car-burnings). Any non- Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam — Mohammed cartoons).

    Guyana — Muslim 10%

    India — Muslim 13.4%

    Israel — Muslim 16%

    Kenya — Muslim 10%

    Russia — Muslim 10-15%

    After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

    At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

    Bosnia — Muslim 40%

    Chad — Muslim 53.1%

    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

    From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

    Albania — Muslim 70%

    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%

    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%

    Sudan — Muslim 70%

    After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide: Bangladesh — Muslim 83%

    Egypt — Muslim 90%

    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%

    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%

    Iran — Muslim 98%

    Iraq — Muslim 97%

    Jordan — Muslim 92%

    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%

    Pakistan — Muslim 97%

    Palestine — Muslim 99%

    Syria — Muslim 90%

    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%

    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%

    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of “Dar-es-Salaam” — the Islamic House of Peace – there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%

    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%

    Somalia — Muslim 100%

    Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

    Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons. “Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, “The Haj”

    It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

    Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat..

    http://www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm

  32. ?
    August 1st, 2008 | 09:16

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  33. me
    August 1st, 2008 | 09:18

    ?
    ok

  34. rofl
    August 1st, 2008 | 09:33

    @johnny_pt
    you are a frenchie :D

  35. ?
    August 1st, 2008 | 09:39

    @237 (pastie) i just saved and opened your site in a .txt

    You must be really bored with your life… there is over 1000 search keywords and not to mention all the time you must have spent putting that piece of shyt toghether, anyone with any common sense will just hit ctrl+alt+del and end the browser process. all that time you spent can be undone by pressing 3 keys… very sad, go read some hacker’s manuals before you go spend coutless hours putting toghther such a useless html code.

    I therefore present you with the dumbass of the year award: http://torrents.sumotorrent.com/download/1301803/2008-07-01/NOOB+KILLER+by+Leerz+2+5+zip_ST1556436.torrent

    Download and run the torrent pasted above, maybe you will learn something usefull.

    P.S. no one but pastie should click on the link above, or you will aslo be joining him in the dumbass hall of fame

  36. Irate Pirate
    August 1st, 2008 | 09:45

    They can’t ban knives, have you ever tried eating a steak with a spoon?

  37. R-Soul
    August 1st, 2008 | 09:56

    This Robot Psycho story is actually the plot for the new X-files movie, its a brilliant marketing ploy, the dead guy is just an actor you fools!

  38. tedbundy
    August 1st, 2008 | 10:46

    This sounds awesome!!!
    Anyone have to video of it? :D

  39. dddd
    August 1st, 2008 | 11:05

    @246

    See the video from the killer: http://wapdailynews.com

  40. vote for me!
    August 1st, 2008 | 11:11

    can has new vote for should mr x to go plz?

  41. QuadrupelQ
    August 1st, 2008 | 11:27

    People, don’t you get it? Mr. X is NOT some Scandinavian DB, in reality Mr. X = Martin. Everybody needs to vent now and then, and Martin’s posts are always nice and tidy (except when he does his usual VoMiT bashing routine, *yawn*), so if he needs to vent or post crap he simply reverts to his Mr. X persona. Makes sense, doesn’t it?

  42. jordan
    August 1st, 2008 | 11:48

    There are rumours this man was brainwashed, like the nut who shot up the school.

  43. ViriiGuy
    August 1st, 2008 | 12:10

    Thanks for posting the story, but you REALLY should proof read first. It looks like you start every paragraph twice.

  44. candente
    August 1st, 2008 | 12:19

    Greyhound just announced drivers will no longer be required to take a headcount before departure

  45. Is he white?
    August 1st, 2008 | 12:36

    Everyone is so sure Mr.X is white, why? Is he? How do you know?

    Maybe he’s black and hates whites? Its not that uncommon you know…I mean I’m not that fond of them myself =P

  46. DJWill_I_AM444
    August 1st, 2008 | 13:13

    MARTIN::::

    I AM GOING TO SPAM EVERY GOVERMENT ANTI-PRIRACY WEBSITE FROM EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD- SAYING THAT RLSLOG.NET IS PUSHING PIRATED SOFTWARE ON EVERYONE UNTIL YOU AT LEAST MONITOR MR X’S R3TARDED OFF TOPIC TROLL COMMENTS!!!

  47. Dvdguy
    August 1st, 2008 | 13:17

    @25

    >I’m glad I used a car to go to Toronto last week … I would >have used greyhound bus instead :S.

    Yeah, it is going to happen every day on the bus… please..

    >Ontario appear to be where everybody gets kills these days >in Canada,

    Read the news, it happened out west… know where that is?

    >I’m glad I live in Quebec =)

    Yeah… never any murders in Quebec.

    “Quebec man charged with murder in death of son’s 17-year-old girlfriend”

    http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5j242wItGHVBufxwEUGRbLc9HKmwA

  48. X
    August 1st, 2008 | 13:24
  49. X
    August 1st, 2008 | 14:05

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    August 1st, 2008 | 14:25

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  51. MM
    August 1st, 2008 | 15:09

    the sick prick beheaded the poor kid, i was just reading about it in the paper this morning.

  52. Dr Zoidberg
    August 1st, 2008 | 16:00

    WTF?
    That doesn’t happen here in Belgium. Here they just deal with the busdrivers. Fighting them, stabbing them,…
    Quite common.

  53. voiceofreason
    August 1st, 2008 | 18:02

    These type of tramatic acts of violence seem to be becoming more and more common. We can never predict when and where a horrible attack like this will happen. This is why we all need to be in a position to protect ourselves and others. I myself, being from a state in the U.S. that allows a person to go through a background check and safety course to carry a concealed handgun consider myself and those around me at a far greater advantage when psychoes like this decide to try something atrocious. Just think if this guy had a gun, or decided to go after more than one victim with his large knife. We do not have the ability (financially or situationley) to always have a guard or law enforcement officer in all places where assaults like this could take place. Just think if just one person out of those thirty-some passengers had a concealed handgun. There would not have to be more lives hinging around a hammer and some wrenches. I’m not saying that the sleeping boys life would have for sure been saved, but I am saying that no one elses life would have been at risk. The fact is, if the one person on that bus with a concealed handgun was me, that boy would have never been decapitated and the knife wielding lunatic would have never made it off that bus only to again use and abuse society through tax dollars.

  54. Areyouforreal
    August 1st, 2008 | 18:30

    @259

    You call yourself ‘voice of reason’

    then you go on to say how lucky you are that people from your state can carry a CONCEALED HANDGUN!!!! where do I start?!?!?

    I come from the large part of the rest of the world where carring ANY kind of gun, concealed or otherwise is ILLEGAL, and I pray to god that it stays that way so we don’t end up as F*CKING F*CKED as you guys in the States.

  55. me
    August 1st, 2008 | 18:34

    @259 voiceofreason

    You are truely what is wrong with the US today, not content that your country acts like world police to the rest of the world, now you want every citizen in the land to also be able to act as Judge, Jury and Executioner…. you sir are an Idiot!

  56. voiceofreason
    August 1st, 2008 | 22:47

    Okay, post 260 and 261, if you were in this situation from wherever you are from??? and happened to be the kid sleeping on that bus; would you want everyone to run and leave you in fear of their own lives (because they had no way of deffending their self or you)after the start of the confrontation or would you want someone who is willing and able to protect you and those around you??? The simple fact is, psychoes are going to continue to do this with or without permits. Post 260, do you think that the guy with the rambo knife had a permit to carry that??? NO!!!! And even if he did it wouldn’t have stopped this horrific tragedy. That is the whole point, these things will continue to happen, but the fact is people will continue to run with no sense of self protection. At some point we all have to stop running and stand up for each other. I don’t care where you are from and what you think about the U.S. (or me for that matter), but the simple fact is, if that boy would have been you or any human being (regardless of age, race, color, religion, country of origin, or background). “I swear to you that I would have given both you and I the protection that society needs and deserves.” Just think how the boys family must feel. I mean this guy with a KNIFE had enough time to decapitate this young man!!! Myself, being around the boys age that was sleeping would for sure want someone sitting near me with a will and a way (gun permit) to protect me. I would hope and pray that if this boy was a loved one of yours that you would want the same protection. What’s wrong with being able to protect yourself and those around you if you are allowed the means to do so and the situation calls for help? And now to 261, you sit behind your safe little computer and call me an idiot??? haha!!! This knife wielding lunatic was his own JUDGE and JURY, he made his own decision to committ this outrageous crime AND I TELL YOU WHAT I WOULD HAVE NOT OF THOUGHT TWICE ABOUT BEING HIS EXECUTIONER!!!

    I tell you what post 260 and 261, you give me a yes or no answer to the following question. You, your family, and friends are sitting in restraunt (this actually happened) and a guy walks in with a 9mm semi-automatic handgun (by the way he doesn’t have a permit) and a few extra fully loaded clips. He orders everyone to the ground and walks casually, without fear (after all he is the only one with a gun in this extremely packed family restraunt), unloading one round in each person (women and children made no difference). Then he had the audacity to slowly unload and reload a new fully loaded clip only to begin shooting the trapped inocent victims once again. You and your family being the next for sure victoms, would you or would you not wish the ability upon yourself or someone else with a responsible concealed permit near you the ability to stop this killer???

    You see, your answer on the bus when it’s someone else’s son, father, cousin, or friend that’s the victim is that I’m (and I quote) “F*CKING F*CKED” and I’m “truely what is wrong with the US today”. Now if it just happened to be you, or someone close to you, and someone with a concealed carry license stops the killer before he hurts or kills someone you love he’s a “F*CKING HERO”

    I think it’s tragic that people can’t see reality until it’s in their own backyard.

    And I leave you with this, the whole restraunt analogy (situation), if it where to happen here in the U.S. and a citizen with concealed carry license was near, ” I would venture to say that the killer never would have made it near your family”. So you could go home and safely type into your little computer all the names and ridiculous garbage you wanted!!!

  57. whatever
    August 1st, 2008 | 23:42

    PT: Dude Canada is not the USA! I am a Canadian and NOT an American! I repeat…. NOT THE SAME!

  58. voiceofreason
    August 2nd, 2008 | 01:15

    post 263>>> I made no statements saying that Canada was the U.S. or the U.S. was Canada. They are NOT the same. I love Canada and many of their political policies. One I do not agree with is the inability of a Canadian citizen (including “security guards” which also can not carry a handgun) to complete a training course and criminal background check in order to protect themselves and their family OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOME if needed. I know Canada has low criminal activity, but things like this do happen even in Canada. Criminals can get their hands on any kind of weapon no matter what the “LAWS OF WHATEVER LAND” happen to be. Simply put, if criminals are doing it illegally, then why can’t the common folk be at least offered the possibility to protect themselves legally?

    Oh, and let me help you with a little geography. Yes you are a Canadian and yes you are an “American”. Yes I am a U.S. citizen and yes I am an American. Just as citizens of Korea, China, and Japan are considered Korean, Chinese, or Japanese.<<< still they are considered “Asian”.

    So post 263 I’m sorry to be the one that has to inform you that Canada is part of the Americas.

    This is way off base, however, because we are all humans and we all should have the right to protect ourself with a means that fits the situation. When it comes down to it, regardless of country, no one should have to render their own or their families protection to the blade of a psycho killer!!!

  59. Australisk
    August 2nd, 2008 | 07:11

    “I live in Manitoba and its not in the US…its in Canada!”

    You should know where it is on the map, then. Canada’s part of North AMERICA which is a section of a larger entity: AMERICA. America’s a rubbish, violent continent.

  60. Australisk
    August 2nd, 2008 | 07:13

    “we all should have the right to protect ourself with a means that fits the situation. When it comes down to it, regardless of country, no one should have to render their own or their families protection to the blade of a psycho killer!!!”

    If weapons were banned on the bus, the person wouldn’t've been stabbed. Protecting innocents and arming crooks is a fine line that shouldn’t even be considered: ban weapons – simple. Bloody cowboy continent.

  61. voiceofreason
    August 2nd, 2008 | 08:46

    post 266 “America’s a rubbish, violent continent.” Let me help you out with some geography also, North America and South America are considered two seperate continents<<<< plural!!! So which American continent are you talking about??? Secondly, to add to your same ridiculous and extremely mindless quote above. Do you really think we have it bad here??? Which part of America is rubbish??? Let me guess: freedom, the ability to go from poverty to wealth with hard work and dedication, the luxury of having the most advanced health care across the world??? I just don’t understand if we are so rubbish, then why do we have far greater immigrants than any other country in the world(I’m speaking for the U.S.). Just so happens to be a lot of Canadian health care workers who seem to migrate this way<<< I’ll let you figure this one out for yourself if you have the competence. As far as “violent”, TAME LIONS HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE VIOLENT<<>>>BUT ONLY WHEN PREVOKED!!! you might be able to figure that one out also.

    OH!!! your quote on 267 is so ludicrous “If weapons were banned on the bus, the person wouldn’t’ve been stabbed” First of all, do you think that weapons were not banned on that bus??? Hell yes they were, he carried it on illegally. Second of all, WEAPONS ARE, and always will be everywhere. Since the beginning of man kind we have found crude weapons. Thirdly, weapons are banned in prisons<<<<<<>>>>>> and how are most guys killed and injured in prisons>>>>>>>>>>>>STABBINGS!!!! That quote about banning weapons on a bus, haha… a sharpened plastic toothbrush is as lethal as a knife. Really step into reality!!!

    Next quote of the day from the 3rd grader above “Protecting innocents and arming crooks is a fine line that shouldn’t even be considered: ban weapons”!!!>>>>>>>>>>>TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I’M ABOUT TO WRITE. CRIMINALS DO NOT CARE ABOUT GETTING A LICENSE TO CARRY A GUN OR FOLLOWING THE LAWS OF THE LANDS IN ORDER TO GO ON A KILLING SPREE.<<<<<<<Prescription drugs help a lot of people, but are abused by a lot of people who end up dying<>do we outlaw Rx’s also??? Drunk drivers kill a lot of people, do we forbid cars??? There is no “fine line”, many things can be considered a weapon, but the simple fact is PROTECTING INNOCENTS SHOULD ALWAYS BE CONSIDERED!!!

  62. voiceofsense
    August 2nd, 2008 | 11:13

    Man get a load of this r3tard ‘voiceofreason’: someone needs to watch this moron gunnutt before he takes his own Rambo show on the road!!!

    As far as that silly rest restraunt analogy, the answer is NO, I personally feel much safer knowing that no-one in the place has a damn concealed weapon!

    More deadly weapons on the streets = safer world,
    Only a 10 year old or a r3tard would or even could think that!

  63. Willy
    August 3rd, 2008 | 18:13

    quote: “If weapons were banned on the bus, the person wouldn’t’ve been stabbed.”

    Yeah, they should ban stabbing people too.

  64. common sense
    August 3rd, 2008 | 21:19

    Just goes to show that banning guns does not work. The twit did this with a knife. So ban knives next and then they will use sharpened screwdrivers or something like that or even ballbalts. Until you can figure out the working of the human mind and why we hate each other for our religion or skin color, there is not one damn thing you can do to stop one human from killing another.

  65. voiceofreason
    August 4th, 2008 | 03:12

    269 you sound like a real heartless coward…good job. 270 and 271 both make sense, but you 269 are the voiceofnonsense. I’ve had my license for more than 4 years and haven’t used it, but if you came at me with a knife I wouldn’t think twice.

  66. canadian444
    August 4th, 2008 | 06:03

    first off… i would NEVER call myself an american if it means associating myself with you ignorant jerks…. Its nice to see however that there are few americans who give a damn about something besides themselves.. and fyi.. why was the entire world supposed to jump in when there was an attack in the states? you consider yourselves more important? news flash.. not the case.. If you dont want to read about it.. silly thought.. but MOVE ON.. dont read.. its not brain surgery… simple. Its disgusting that you can even brush off an incident like this, and heaven forbid, you get on a bus and some nut job cuts your pathetic head off.. get a heart. really.. and they probably posted this on here, cuz there is reality outside of movies and video games… for those of you who didnt know..

  67. Zoas
    August 4th, 2008 | 15:35

    Good God! Where is Season 2 Episode 1 of Mad Men in 720p RAPIDSHARE links? No one has posted them anywhere. Why?

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